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Sudhaama
28th December 2004, 09:15 PM
[tscii:00bb5dc5c0]PATTI-MANRHAM-2:-- Arham Seya Virumbu: («Èõ ¦ºÂ Å¢ÕõÒ))

Is it Practical?... Even in the PRESENT DAYS?

This Golden-Proverb of Avvaiyaar means:---

"Always WISH to follow the Virtuous Moral Approach in Life".

Is it an ETERNAL PRACTICAL IDEAL ....still a Live-Proverb applicable even in the Present day Global atmosphere and the peculiar Trend of the Modern-World Society?....

Question for which the Answer we have to find.[/tscii:00bb5dc5c0]

Sudhaama
29th December 2004, 10:58 PM
[tscii:36b1b677d5]"«Èõ ¦ºÂ Å¢ÕõÒ"

´ù¦Å¡Õ ¾Á¢ú Á¡½ÅÛõ ¾ÉÐ À¢ïÍ Å¾¢§Ä§Â.... Ó¾ýӾġ¸ì ¸üÌõ ¾Á¢úô À¡¼õ...

... þó¾ ¬ò¾¢îÝÊô ÀƦÁ¡Æ¢.... þ¾ý ¸ÕòÐ ±ýÉ?

... þ¨¾ ²ý ¶¨Å 㾡ðÊ Ó¾ýӾġ¸ì ÜȢɡû?

.... ±ýÀÉÅü¨Èî ºüÚî º¢ó¾¢ò¾¡ø þ¾ý ¬ú¦À¡Õû ¸Õò¾¡ÆÓõ .

... ²ý Á¡ó¾÷ÌÄõ «¨Éò¾¢ü̧Á ±ì¸¡Äò¾¢üÌõ ¦À¡Õó¾ò ¾ì¸Ð ±ýÚõ....

... ÌÈ¢ôÀ¡¸... Á¢¸ Á¢¸ þýȢ¨Á¡¾ «ÊôÀ¨¼ ¬¾¡Ã Å¡ú-¦¿È¢ ±ýÀ¨¾Ôõ ¯½ÃÄ¡õ.

±ôÀÊ? þ¾ý ¦À¡Õû ¸ÕòÐ?

«Èõ / «È-¦¿È¢ =
¾ÕÁõ (Righteousness), ¿£¾¢-¦¿È¢ô ÀñÒ (Judicious-Approach), ¾¡÷Á£¸-¦¿È¢ (Moral-Approach), Òñ½¢Âõ (Virtue), Å¡ö¨Á, ºò¾¢Âõ (Truth), (¦¾öÅ£¸-¦¿È¢, þ¨ÈÅý Å¢ÕôÀòÐìÌ þ¨ºó¾
Å¡ú- ¦¿È¢ (Divine-Code of Practice)... «ýÉ À¢È (etc.).

ÍÕì¸Á¡¸î ¦º¡ýÉ¡ø... þ¨ÈÅý Á¡É¢¼÷ «¨ÉÅ÷ìÌõ ¦À¡ÐÅ¡¸ ÅÌò¾....

.... "¾¡÷Á£¸- Å¡ú-¦¿È¢" (Moral-Life-Code of Practice).

þó¾ ¯Ââ ¦¿È¢ ¾ü¸¡ÄòÐìÌô ¦À¡ÕóÐÁ¡?...

... ±ó¾ «Ç× ?... ±ýÀ§¾ §¸ûÅ¢.

«È-¦¿È¢ ±Ûõ "¾¡÷Á£¸ Å¡ú-¦¿È¢Â¢ý" Ó¾ø ÀÊ...

ÁÉðº¢ìÌì ¸ðÎôÀðÎ Å¡úÅÐ (Living True to Conscience).

«¨¾î ¦ºÂøÀÎòÐŧ¾ «Îò¾¾¡É þÃñ¼¡õ ÀÊ....

... ¾ò¾õ ÁÉ𺢨Âì §¸ðÎ... "¿¡ý ¾ÅÚ ¦ºö§¾É¡? ±ýÉ? ±ôÀÊ? ±ýÚ ¾ý¨É§Â §¸ðÎì §¸ðÎ ¬ÈȢšø Å¢¨¼¦ÀÚõ º£Äõ (Introspection).

þó¾ ¬¾¡Ã Å¡ú-¦¿È¢¨Â ±ô§À¡Ðõ ¸¨¼ôÀ¢Êì¸....

... "Å¢ÕõÒ"... ±ýÈ¡û ¶¨Å..!!

¸¨ÄÁ¸û ºÃŠÅ¾¢-§¾Å¢Â¢ý «Å¾¡ÃÁ¡É...

... ãò¾ ¾Á¢úô §ÀÃÈ¢»÷... 㾡ðÊ.!!!

"«Èõ ¦ºö".... ±ýÚ ÜÈ¡Ð... "«Èõ ¦ºÂ Å¢ÕõÒ"... ±ýÈ¡§Ç....! ²ý?

þíÌ ¾¡ý þ¾ý... ¸Õò¾¡Æõ... «È¢Â×õ, ¦¾Ã¢Â×õ, ¯½Ã×õ... ¾ì¸Ð..... ±ýÉ? [/tscii:36b1b677d5]

sanjay
30th December 2004, 05:49 PM
Today it is practically impossible. Even if a person wants to be so, the others would not let him.

Sudhaama
30th December 2004, 09:20 PM
Mr. Sanjay,

Thanks for your ..... prompt RESPONSE.

I invite similar.... OPEN-MINDED.. Responses from ALL THE READERS.

The object os this PATTI-MANRAM is to put forth the diversified Thoughts and Opinions of one and all the Individuals and Circles of People....

.... and thus give Vent to your Realistic-feelings...

.... about the REALITY..... OF TODAY.

After seeing all such ECHOS from you all, I will reply ....

.... advocating... MY STAND.... that.....

.... Why? and How?.... TOTALLY POSSIBLE....To day too !!!

Dear Friends.... PLEASE COME FORWARD....

.... to say... OPEN-MINDEDLY.... whatever you have in Mind.

Sudhaama
2nd January 2005, 02:11 AM
Hi Dear Friends,

Happy NEW YEAR 2005. !!!

Please Vote for anyone of the THREE OPTIONS above, with or without your expression on justification for it.

a.ratchasi
31st January 2005, 01:09 PM
Is it an ETERNAL PRACTICAL IDEAL ....still a Live-Proverb applicable even in the Present day Global atmosphere and the peculiar Trend of the Modern-World Society?....


Of course, yes! It is indeed both possible and practical.

Sudhaama
31st January 2005, 07:45 PM
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"«Èõ ¦ºÂ Å¢ÕõÒ" :---- ¦¾¡¼÷

"Å¢ÕõÒ" ±ýÈ ¦º¡øÖìÌ "¬¨ºôÀÎ" «øÄÐ "Å¢ÕôÀõ ¦¸¡û" ±ýÚ ¦À¡Õû ¦¸¡ûÇÄ¡õ.

"¬¨ºôÀÎ" ±ýÀ¨¾ ´Õ Á¡½ÅÛìÌì ¸üÚò¾Ã §ÅñÎÁ¡? ¬¨º ±ýÀÐ ¸üÈÅ÷, ¸øÄ¡¾Å÷, º¢ÚÅ÷ §À¡ýÈÅÕìÌõ ÁðÎÁ¢ýÈ¢ À¢ïÍ Å¾¢Ä¢Õó§¾ Á¡É¢¼÷ «¨ÉÅÕì̧Á þÂøÀ¡ÉÐ.

´Õ º¢ÚÅÉ¢¼õ "¯ÉìÌ ±ýÉ §ÅñÎõ?" ±ýÚ §¸ð¼¡ø, "¿¡í¸û ¡ÅÕõ þýÀÁ¡¸ Å¡Æ §ÅñÎõ" ±ýÀ¡ý. ¬É¡ø "«ôÀʦÂýÈ¡ø ±ýÉ? ±ò¾¨¸Â þýÀ Å¡ú×? «¨¾ «¨¼Ôõ ÅÆ¢ ±Ð ±ýÚ ¸Õи¢È¡ö?" ±ýÚ §¸ð¼¡ø «ÅÛìÌ Å¢¨¼ ÜÈò ¦¾Ã¢Â¡Ð. ÅÂÐ Ó¾¢÷ó¾ À¡ÁÃÛìÌõ ܼ «îº¢ÚŨÉô §À¡Ä§Å Å¢¨¼ ÜÈò ¦¾Ã¢Â¡Ð.

¸øÅ¢ (Education) ±ýÀÐ «È¢Â¡¾¨¾ «È¢çðÎÅÐ, ¦¾Ã¢Â¡¾¨¾ò ¦¾Ã¢Å¢ôÀÐ. Ò⡾¨¾ò ¦¾Ç¢Å¢ôÀÐ. "¬¨ºôÀÎ" ±ýÚ ´Õ Á¡½ÅÛìÌì ¸üÀ¢ì¸ §ÅñÊÂÐõ þø¨Ä. «Ð ´Õ À¡¼õ ±Éì ¸Õ¾ò ¾ì¸Ðõ «øÄ. À¡¼õ ±Éì ¸øÅ¢ Ҹ𼠧ÅñÊÂÐ Á¡É¢¼÷ìÌ ¯¸ó¾ Å¡ú ¦¿È¢¸Ùõ §¸¡ðÀ¡ðΠӨȸÙõ ¾¡ý.

«ò¾¨¸Â Å¢Çì¸õ ¾¡ý þôÀƦÁ¡Æ¢.

þýÀ Å¡ú× «Ç¢ìÌõ º¡¾ÉÁ «È ¦¿È¢.

"«Èõ ¦ºö ŢÕõÀ¢É¡§Ä §À¡Ðõ, þýÀ Å¡ú× ¾¡§É ¿¡Êò §¾Ê ÅÕõ.

"«Èò¾¡ý ÅÕŧ¾ þýÀõ" ±ýÈ ¾¢ÕìÌÈÇ¢ý Á¨È ¸¼ø ¸Õò§¾ þ¾ý ¦À¡Õû.

þùÅ¡Ú º£Ã¢Â Á¡É¢¼ ¬¾¡Ã ¦¿È¢¨Â À¢ïÍ ÁÉí¸Ç¢§Ä§Â...

... Ó¾ý Ó¾ø À¡¼Á¡¸ô §À¡¾¢ôÀ¾¢Ä¢Õó§¾...

... ¬¾¢ ¸¡Ä Ó¾§Ä ¿¢ÄÅ¢ ÅóÐûÇ ¾Á¢Æ÷¸Ç¢ý ...

... ¯Ââ ÀñÀ¡ð¨¼Ôõ Óý§ÉȢ ¸Ä¡îº¡Ãò¨¾Ôõ ¸¡ð¼Å¢ø¨Ä¡?

±É§Å....

¯ÄÌ째 Å¡ú×-þÄ츽-Óý§É¡Ê¸Ç¡¸.... Ó¾¢÷ó¾ Á¡É¢¼É¡¸.... ӨǢ§Ä§Â ÀÌò¾È¢× Á½õ Å£Íõ Á¡ó¾É¡¸.... Å¡úóÐ ¸¡ðÊÂ

... º£Ä÷ Óý§É¡Ã¢ý ¾ü¸¡Äô À¢ýÉÅ÷¸¡û..... ÜÚí¸û...

.. þì¸ÕòÐ.... ¾ü¸¡ÄòÐìÌ ´ùÅ¡¾¡?.... þÂÄ¡¾¡?... ÓÊ¡¾¡?

þíÌ ¿¡ý ÜȢ¨Š±øÄ¡õ.... ²ðÎôÀÊôÒ... ¿¨¼Ó¨È Å¡ú×ìÌ ¯¾Å¡Ð ±ýÚ ¸Õи¢È£÷¸Ç¡? ±ØÐí¸û. .... ÁÚò¾¡Öõ... ¸¡Ã½õ ¸¡ðÊ Å¢Çì¸Á¡¸ì ÜÚí¸û. ¯í¸û Å¡úÅ¢Öõ Áü§È¡ÃÐ Å¡ú쨸¢Öõ .... §¸ðÎì... ¸ñÎ... ÝÎÀðÎì ¸üÚì ¦¸¡ñ¼ À¡¼í¸¨ÇÔõ .... ÁÉõ Å¢ðÎ ±ØÐí¸û.

þ째ûÅ¢ìÌ ¯í¸û Å¢¨¼ ±Ðš¢Ûõ.... Á£ñÎõ §¸¡Õ¸¢§Èý....

þÄ츢Â-㾢¡¸ ¯í¸¨Ç.... Ţš¾¢ì¸ «¨Æì¸Å¢ø¨Ä....

.... ÀðÊ-ÁýÈõ ±ýÀ§¾.... Àø-Ũ¸§Â¡÷ ¸ÄìÌõ.... ¦À¡Ð-§Á¨¼ «ý§È¡?

... ±É§Å... «ýÀ÷¸§Ç.... ¸ÄìÌí¸û.... ¸Äí¸¢ÂÐ §À¡Ðõ

¿£í¸û.... þÄ츢Âî-º¡ýÚ¸û.... ²Ðõ .... ÍðÊì ¸¡ð¼×õ... §¾¨Å þø¨Ä.

²¦ÉÉ¢ø.... þÐ µ÷ ¦ÅÚõ þÄ츢 §Á¨¼ «ýÚ.....

... «ÛÀÅô-À¡¼ §Á¨¼....

... ¿£í¸û ÅÕó¾¢Ôõ .... ¾õ¨Á§Â ÅÕò¾¢Ôõ.... ¸üÈ ¯Ââ šú쨸ô À¡¼õ... ±ýÉ?

... «ò¾¨¸Â ... º¢Èó¾ ¦À¡ì¸¢„Á¡É.... ¾í¸ÇÐ... "¾í¸î-º£ôÒ"... Áü§È¡÷ìÌõ ÀÂýÀ¼Ä¡§Á!!

±É§Å «ýÀ÷¸§Ç!

.... ¯í¸ÇÐ ÍÂ-;ó¾¢Ãì ¸ÕòÐôÀʧ ....

... §Á§Ä.... "ìÇ¢ì"Ìí¸û.....

§ÁÖõ ²ý «ò¾¨¸Â ÓÊ×ìÌ Åó¾£÷¸û ±ýÚõ ÁÉõ Å¢ðÎ...

... þó¾ §Á¨¼Â¢ø §ÀÍí¸û....

... §¸ð¸ ¬ÅÄ¡Ôû§Çý....

... §ÁÖõ «ì¸ÕòÐìÌò ¾ì¸ ±ÉРި¼ì-¸Õò¨¾Ôõ ¦¾Ã¢Å¢ì¸¢§Èý.

«ò¾¨¸Â.... ¯í¸û ¯Ââ ±ñ½í¸¨Ç... ÁÉõ Å¢ðÎì ¦¸¡ðÊ....

.... ¯í¸û ¦¿ïÍ ¬Ú¾ÖìÌõ... ÁÉîͨÁ ¾£÷ò¾ÖìÌõ....

... ²üÈ §Á¨¼... þÐ ÁðÎõ ¾¡ý....

.... ²¦ÉÉ¢ø ... þíÌ Á¡ò¾¢Ã§Á ....

... ¯í¸ÇÐ «ó¾Ãí¸õ (Privacy) ... À¡Ð¸¡ì¸ôÀ¼ þÂÖõ.

.... §ÁÖõ .... ÌÈ¢ôÀ¡¸....

... "±ø§Ä¡Õõ þýÒüÈ¢Õì¸ ¿¢¨ÉôÀЧŠ«øÄ¡Áø §ÅÚ ´ýÚ «È¢§Âý ÀáÀçÁ"...

... ±ýÈ... ¯í¸ÇÐ... º£Ã¢Â... Å¡ú×ì-¦¸¡û¨¸¨Â... ¦ºÂøÀÎò¾...

... ¯Ã¢Â ... ¾ì¸... ¯ÂâÂ... º¢Èó¾... ¿øÅ¡öôÒ ... þÐÅý§È¡? [/tscii:21c76d0330]

pavalamani pragasam
1st February 2005, 08:36 AM
[tscii:eddae04789]“Å¢ÕõÒ” ±ýÀ¾¢ø ÁÉ¢¾ÛìÌ þÂøÀ¡É ¯½÷¨Å «È¢óÐ «¾ýÀÊ ¿¼óЦ¸¡û ±ÉÄ¡õ: «Èõ ¦ºöŨ¾ þÕ À̾¢Â¡¸ À¢Ã¢ò¾¡ø ²¨É§Â¡÷ þ¼÷ ¿£ì¸ø, þýÀõ Üð¼ø ±ýÚ ÅÕõ. ¯Î쨸 þÆó¾Åý ¨¸ ¾¡É¡ö «¨¾ À¢ÊòÐ º£Ã¡ìÌÅÐ þÂøÒ=reflex action; «Ð §À¡ø þ¼÷ ¿£ì¸ Å¢¨Ã¾Öõ þÂøÒ¾¡ý; ´Õ ÌÆó¨¾ Å¢Øõ §À¡Ð µÊýÚ à츢Ţξø þÂøÒ; §ÀÕó¾¢ø Ó¾¢ÂÅÕìÌ ±ØóÐ þ¼õ ¦¸¡Îò¾ø þÂøÒ; þ¨Å¦ÂøÄ¡õ Áí¸¢ì¦¸¡ñÎ ÅÕÅÐ §À¡ø ´Õ §¾¡üÈõ «ÅºÃ ¯Ä¸¢ø; É¡ø ÓüÈ¢Öõ ÁÊÂÅ¢ø¨Ä; ÁÊ ÓÊ¡Ð; ÁÉ¢¾ÛìÌû º¢ÈôÀ¡É ̽í¸û §º÷ì¸ôÀðÎûÇÐ ¦ºö¾ ӨȢý º¢ÈôÒ. ºÁ£Àò¾¢Â ÍÁ¡É¢ ±ØôÀ¢Â ¾Ã× «¨Ä- «Ð×õ ÍÉ¡Á¢ «Ç×- ÁÉ¢¾õ ÁâòÐô§À¡öÅ¢¼Å¢ø¨Ä ±ý§È ¯½÷òи¢ÈÐ. ±ýÉ, ´Õ ÅÕò¾õ, ±íÌõ ´Õ ¾ýÉÄõ, Å¢ð§¼ò¾¢Â¡É Á§É¡À¡Åõ ¾¨Äàì¸ò ÐÅí¸¢ÔûÇÐ. «Ð ´Õ ¯û §¿¡Â¢ý «È¢ÌÈ¢; ÅÖôÀÎò¾ tonic, booster, inoculation þÐ §À¡ýÈ ¦À¡Ð Ţš¾í¸û ãÄõ ¸¢¨¼ìÌõ.
þýÀõ ¾Õ¾ø- happiness is a perfume you cant sprinkle on others without getting a few drops on yourself.¾ÉìÌ þýÀõ ¸¢¨¼ì¸ þ¨¾Å¢¼ ÍÕìÌ ÅÆ¢ ¯ñ§¼¡?
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Sudhaama
1st February 2005, 09:06 AM
[tscii:47787cb1e0]Ms. ÀÅÇÁ½¢ À¢Ã¸¡ºõ «ýÀ§Ã,

¾í¸û ¸ÕòÐìÌ ¿ýÈ¢.

þó¾ þ¨Æ µ÷ ÀðÊ ÁýÈõ.... ¯í¸û Å¡¾õ ±ó¾ò ¾ÃôÒìÌ ¬¾ÃÅ¡ÉÐ ±ýÚ ÌÈ¢ôÀ¢¼Å¢ø¨Ä§Â?

§ÁÖõ.. ¯í¸û µðÎ... §Áü¸ñ¼ ãýÈ¢Ûû.... ±ó¾ô ¦ÀðÊìÌ??... Å¡ì¸Ç¢Ôí¸û.
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pavalamani pragasam
1st February 2005, 01:00 PM
YES, TOTALLY PRACTICAL, APPLICABLE and DESIRABLE NOWADAYS TOO :)

Sudhaama
23rd March 2005, 07:35 AM
Mr. Sri-Prakasa,... the Ex Governor of Tamilnadu... was a renowned as Mr Clean- Gentleman to the core... coupled with Dynamic outlook ... and Competence.

On his retirement as Governor, Mr. Nehru, the then Prime-Minister of India, did not want to lose his exemplary competence.... and so offered him the Top-most post as Chairman of the All India-Anti-Corruption-Board, which he refused to accept.

He said.... being the Chairman of Anti-Corruption... I must behave true to my Conscience... and I should not be a party for Corruption... Yes I agree and can promise too... from the core of my Heart... that I will not take any Bribe directly or indirectly... norbe a Cause for its generation or escalation in any manner.

... But I cannot assure nor Promise... that I will not give Bribe .. nor be a party to get jobs done out of corrupt Govt. officials.

If I commit so... I will not be able to survive in India... That was the status... in 1955...

Is India better Now?... Politicians? Beaurocrats?... Govt. Officers?

Ilavenil
28th March 2005, 12:41 AM
Aram seiya virrumbu--- Kadaipidikka mudiyuma? illaiya? yendra santhegam vanthAlle athai namAl kadai pidikkamudiyamaL poividum. Athai oru kollkaiyaga kondal than mudiyum. Yeppadi Aricchandran poi solluvathillai yendra kollgaiai kondu irrunthano, vantha thunpathai yellam yethirthano, athae polla, nam kollkail nAm thellivaga irrunthaL, yethayum seiyallam. Anal maththavargaLum kadaipidikka mudiyum yendru nAn solla mudiyathu, athu avaravar koLgai, thanambikaiai poruththathu.

Sudhaama
3rd May 2005, 05:11 PM
This Tamil-Proverb. "..ARHAM SEYA VIRUMBU..."...

... the Elementary-School Lesson.... for Tamilian Buds... is not only SCHOOL-LESSON...

...but also a LIFE-LESSON.... for the Enttire Humanity ..Eternally...

... APPLICABLE to Non-Tamilians also... in their own interests...

All our Present day problems ... within the Family... Village or Town... Society... Nationally ... as well as well as INTERNATIONALLY too... are

... because Mankind is drifting away from this FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN- OUTLOOK on Life.

So to say... these GOLDEN-WORDS of Avvaiyaar... is Applicable to all...

....and hence has to be MADE APPLICABLE... to all... being a Moral-approach of EMPATHY..

... in the interest of Overall Welfare and Advancement...of the Families and the People..

...meaningful and Worthy enough to DESERVE AS HUMAN.- CREATURE ..

...endowed with the Highest Might of BRIGHT- Wisdom. coupled with GOOD- Heart.

F.S.Gandhi vandayar
28th May 2005, 01:41 PM
Dear Thiru Sudhaama, :)

'Nallaar oruvar ularel avarporuttu ellaarkkum payyum MaZhai' is Valluvam.

The world lives now because of those people of noble sense live.

If more no. of persons of nobleness live, the world will become happy land.

Let us work hard towards that goal.

Set priorities of your duties and spending.

In that case you have to select your wife also of having the same nobleness in you.

Laborious process. But every person should make a goal to achieve this.

'Aranenappattathe Elvalkkai'-

We can do that.

f.s.gandhi