kELvigaL, santhEgangaL in thamizh ilakkiyam. Please clarify!

In the movie gauravam, there will be a quote:

"thanninilai thaazhaamaiyum thaazhnthadhenil (?) uyir vaazhaamaiyum maaNam enappadum"

I believe this is not a thirukuRaL! :)

Where does this come from :?:

Thank you in advance! :)

It is a classic definition of the word "Á¡Éõ" which can be found in most commentaries of the chapter entitled "Á¡Éõ" in ThirukkuRaL. It reflects the principle contained in a thirukkuRaL verse. The kuRaL is:

Á¢÷¿£ôÀ¢ý Å¡Æ¡ì ¸ÅâÁ¡ «ýÉ¡÷
¯Â¢÷¿£ôÀ÷ Á¡Éõ Åâý.

You should be able to find the given definition in most commentaries, either in the words you have quoted or in words to the same effect.

Dr Mu. Varatharaasanaar says: ¾ÁìÌ Â¡§¾Ûõ þÆ¢× §¿÷ó¾¡ø ¯Â¢÷ Å¡Æ¡¾(Ð) Á¡Éõ. Á¡Éõ «Æ¢Â §¿÷ó¾¡ø ¯Â¢¨Ã Å¢ðÎÅ¢ÎÅ÷.

Cross refer: Àâ§ÁÄƸ÷, ¸¡Ç¢í¸÷, Á½ì̼Å÷ ¯¨Ã¸û. These are old commentaries.

Thanks, maalaa, for the viri-urai! :)

Actually it goes:

than nilai thaazhaamaiyum annilai thaazhthakkaal uyir vaazhaamaiyum maanam enappadum.

I think you are absolutely correct. :thumbsup:

This must have come from the thiru kuRaL you have quoted! :smile2:

¾Á¢Æ¢ø Á¡ ±ýÀÐ Á¡ý ±ýÈ ¦À¡ÕÇ¢Öõ ÅÕõ. §Áü¸ñ¼ ÌÈÇ¢ø «ó¾ô ¦À¡ÕÇ¢ø Åó¾Ð. " ¸Åâ Á¡".

º£É ¦Á¡Æ¢Â¢ø "Á¡" ±ýÈ¡ø ̾¢¨Ã.
¾Á¢Æ¢Öõ "Á¡" ±ýÈ¡ø ̾¢¨Ã.

¾Á¢Æ¢ø "Á¡" ±ýÈ¡ø Å¢ÄíÌ (Á¢Õ¸õ) ±ýÈ ¦À¡ÕÙõ ¯ûÇÐ.

¬í¸¢Äò¾¢ø "mare" ±ýÈ¡ø ¦Àñ̾¢¨Ã.

¿£í¸û «È¢ó¾ ÁüÈ ¦Á¡Æ¢¸Ç¢ø ̾¢¨ÃìÌ ±ýÉ ¦ÀÂ÷?

in German:

das Pferd - kuthirai
der Hengst - "aaN kuthirai"
die Stute - "peN kuthirai"
das Fohlen - "pillai kuthirai"

Sorry, my Tamil is like this. I can only describe these things this way. Sure, I learnt all these things but Mala please update me if you don't mind.


der Gaul - Horse (especially south german)

poetically
das Ross - steed
auf dem hohen Ross - on one's high horse

der Schimmel - white/gray horse

Is this enough for a while?

BB

'Pari' is also horse in Thamizh
e.g.Parimelazhagan
nari-Pari in manickavasagar story

Ashwa --- horse in sanskrit.Ashwamedha yagam etc where an horse is sent to other kingdoms

'Goda' --- horse in Hindi(i think)

¬Š¾¢§ÃÄ¢Âô ÀÆíÌÊ ¦Á¡Æ¢¸Ç¢ø ¯ûÇ ÀÄ ¦º¡ü¸û ¾Á¢§Æ¡Î ´Ä¢ ´üÚ¨Á ¯¨¼ÂÉÅ¡ö ¯Ç¦ÅýÚ ¦Á¡Æ¢ ¬öÅ¡Ç÷¸û ¸Õи¢ýÈÉ÷.
̾¢¨Ãô¦ÀÂ÷ þЧÀ¡ýÈ ¦Á¡Æ¢¸Ç¢ø ¯ûÇÉÅ¡? «¨Å ¡¨Å ±ýÚ Â¡Ã¡ÅÐ ÜÈÓÊÔÁ¡?

̾¢¨Ã(¾Á¢ú) > kudirai > kud(ir)a(i) > kuuda (Malay). (ir)(i) omitted in "Malayanising" the word.

Hindi word for horse is close to the Tamil word.

spanish caballo
cavallo italian
cavalo portuguese
french cheval......( Knight or horseman Legion of Honor CHEVALIER SIVAJI GANESAN )
(nethrland) dutch paard
Ashwa horse mmm

Good info