charu nivedita's comments on veda

**srivatsan** · 6th April 2006, 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by kannannn

Yes, please do start thread if it is required. I am mainly interested to hear from you who Manu was, what his intentions were and why you think his works were tampered with? I would also like to reproduce a question I posed in the other thread.

Originally Posted by srivatsan

Manu has given economic principles also...but his comments regarding Shoodra cast is not very much acceptable...

Do you mean not at all acceptable, or not acceptable to a certain degree?

Anything that is advertantly said againt anyone without any reason is 100% not acceptable....at all.....

Not all are same, but, illtreating something just becuz of no reason is a sin and not acceptable.....

Originally Posted by kannannn

I am mainly interested to hear from you who Manu was, what his intentions were and why you think his works were tampered with?

I dont say that it has been tampered...but why not it could have been tampered...it is one odd-man-out, from the principles of Sanaathana Dharmam!

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**devapriya** · 8th April 2006, 02:55 PM

Friends,

Vedas donot have little bit of even Caste Discrimination, Sthi etc.,

Tholkappiyam and Sangam Lit has extensively of Casteism and Sthi etc.,. How many support all this.

E.V.RamasamyNaicker says that Tholkappiyam and Tirukural are written to propagate Vedas.

Let friends analyse that.

dev

**bis_mala** · 11th April 2006, 08:45 PM

Vedas donot have little bit of even Caste Discri
mination, Sthi etc.,

Not true!!

Tholkappiyam and Sangam Lit has extensively of Casteism and Sthi etc.,. How many support all this.

False.

E.V.RamasamyNaicker says that Tholkappiyam and Tirukural are written to propagate Vedas.

What basis?

**dsath** · 11th April 2006, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by devapriya

Friends,

Vedas donot have little bit of even Caste Discrimination, Sthi etc.,

Tholkappiyam and Sangam Lit has extensively of Casteism and Sthi etc.,. How many support all this.

E.V.RamasamyNaicker says that Tholkappiyam and Tirukural are written to propagate Vedas.

Let friends analyse that.

dev

I thought this was a discussion on Vedas. Please lets not disintergrate this thread to yet another Tamil Vs Sanskrit thread.

**bis_mala** · 12th April 2006, 08:12 AM

I thought this was a discussion on Vedas. Please lets not disintergrate this thread to yet another Tamil Vs Sanskrit thread.

There are special threads dealing with such subjects. But our hubbers
would like to discuss these things everywhere. I had in the beginning tried very hard to contain such trends by making suggestions as you did now. But to no avail. Please look at my old messages....Finding no other way, I just posted limited replies.

How do you think other hubbers who wish to keep to topics should react? I am keen to know your suggestions.

**dsath** · 12th April 2006, 01:18 PM

Hi Sivamala,
I am sorry if i sounded rude. Didn't mean to.
Well i can understand the need to defend a principle close to one's heart. Sometimes its better to ignore which might be for the best.
dsath

**srivatsan** · 12th April 2006, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by bis_mala

Vedas donot have little bit of even Caste Discri
mination, Sthi etc.,

Not true!!

Now my Question...How do you know?

I KNOW THERE IS NOT ANY CASTEISM IN VEDAS.I am telling this as I am an Adhyaayi (means, one who has studied vedas), though not fully, a little.

Can you prove your stand, quoting the line about cast discrimination...?

**dsath** · 12th April 2006, 07:27 PM

Hi Srivatsan,
Its nice to have an Adhyaayi admist us. Could you enlighten us more about the Vedas and its teaching please? I have never read the Vedas even in translation and all i have read is about the Vedas.
In regards to the subject under discussion, is the Varna system not mentioned in the Vedas ? How different is the Varna System from the Caste sytem. Till date i was of the opinion they are one and the same.
(Apologies for the ignorance).

**srivatsan** · 13th April 2006, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by dsath

Hi Srivatsan,
Its nice to have an Adhyaayi admist us. Could you enlighten us more about the Vedas and its teaching please? I have never read the Vedas even in translation and all i have read is about the Vedas.
In regards to the subject under discussion, is the Varna system not mentioned in the Vedas ? How different is the Varna System from the Caste sytem. Till date i was of the opinion they are one and the same.
(Apologies for the ignorance).

Hello Sir:

I would suggest to discuss this in a different thread...may be specially meant for this....if you were not sircastic in your comments

**dsath** · 13th April 2006, 03:40 PM

I happen to be a lady who is a history buff

No sarcasm intended. I am totally enchanted by the Greek, Romans (my favorite) , Egyptians and of course the Harappans. The strange thing about Indian history is that, there is controversy in almost everything starting from dating and the sources. There is a lot of talk about Vedas, but not many people know what it is really. So just wanted to know more about it purely from a historical prespective. Since the thread was discussing Vedas, i thought it was appropriate to ask the question, in my quest to understand Indian history.