HUMAN - VALUES.!. Out-dated.?

[Waterloo]

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[anbu_kathir]

What you said is so true in my view too, wrap07.

Our traditions and religion has ample scope for questioning anything and everything. We are never shut out.

This, I think, varies from person to person, family to family.

Love and Light.

It is great for children for that matter anyone to become a free soul. But to be a free soul, they must be imbibed the basis qualities and values which can only lead them to be free soul. It is not so easy as it is made out to be. A good soul can ponder over things, balance right and wrong, fine tune the right things and then can aspire to become a free soul.

Children need to be taught or advised as the case may be the, values and right things. We cannot expect children to understand idealistic thoughts though there are some exceptions.

Our traditions and religion has ample scope for questioning anything and everything. We are never shut out. By repeated pondering and resultant thought process, people can achive greater heights.

[Sudhaama]

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.SEETHAYANA Clarifies.!!

Our traditions and religion has ample scope for questioning anything and everything. We are never shut out. By repeated pondering and resultant thought process, people can achive greater heights.

Yes. Hindu Epics and Traditions have categorically analysed and well- clarified.

We have ample Demonstrations and MORAL LESSONS for understanding the Worth of Earthly Life..

.. as well as the practical Answer to the Question: What is meant by FAMILY VALUES.?..

Whether one believes our Indian Epics as true or not...

..even if treated as Fictions or just Stories...

..the MEANINGFUL ROLES of Seniors in every Family...

... and how their Involvement, Leadership and Participation in a Family has to be availed and taken the best advantage...

...by the Children and Youth... in their own Current and Future interests.

The Great wonder is...

God Himself has demonstrated by commiting Mistakes too and showed to Humanity...

.."Look my dear Humans, whenever I did right and properly adhering to Righteousness the Dharma...

..our whole Family enjoyed the outcome... we are glorified adding fame to us.

Contrarily when anyone of us commit any mistake, the eventuality affects the whole family... including ourselves..

..causing Misery and Ill-fame... to the Defaulter

So dear Humans LEARN from our PRACTICAL DEMONSTRATIONS on Family Values also...

For example...

In Uthara Ramayana.. as the last Scene... when Rama comes to know Kusa -Lava... as his Sons...

..and the whole past episode behind...

Rama feels elated and proud. Then he asks them to return to Ayodhya...

... prior to which... Seetha should perform one more Agni-pravesa..

...to prove to the World... on her UNBLEMISHED status even after being in exile in the forest. .. parted from her Husband.

Then for the first time... Seetha questions Rama...

"When I was under the forced custody of an evil character Ravana.. the Morality demands to prove my unaffected purity.

So I performed Agni-pravesa then and fulfilled your expectations from your innocent wife of unculpable character.

But now contrarily... in the present case.. You have left me in the forest... totally unaware...

..and I have sought the Refuge and Protection under Valmiki... A SAGE... Still you doubt on my purity.?

My dear Husband, You are Great. And so I honour You. But will you please clarify my doubts....

..When you have well-performed all your other ROLES and Duties as the Son, Brother, King, Citizen as well as a Creation to God...

..may I know whether you have duly performed COMPLETELY AND BLOTLESSLY....

... Your OTHER MAIN DUTIES...as a True Husband and a responsible FATHER .?

Lord Rama, her Husband could not answer.!!

Sorry my dear Husband... You have miserably failed in your duties to YOUR SONS as their Father...

..which sort of Additional responsibility of Father also I had to shoulder...

And instead of appreciating me under these two aspects...

..as well as introspection on your injustice meted out to your own wife... especially when she was pregnant...

You are asking to prove my unblemished status...

...Oh my Great Husband.. I cannot live with you anymore. I have handed over your children in a well grown-up stage. Further you please take care of them...

..as their MOTHER TOO...

..as I performed as their FATHER TOO... so far"

"Oh.! My Great Mother Earth. Please take me back to your Laps"

The Earth breaks and the Bhoomi devi mother takes her Daughter Seetha...

...along with her affectionately as Her Mother.

Thus Seethayana... Oh Ramayana exhibits to Humanity...

..that we should be balanced and duly INVOLVED on all the Spheres of Human-commitments...

...without foregoing or forgetting our Main duties and the FAMILY VALUES...

...as Father, Mother, Children... plus GRAND-PARENTS...

...of ONE TEAM as One Family.

..which is the BASIC COMMITMENT for every Human.

Even Gods are NOT EXCEPTIONS.!!!
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[Sudhaama]

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"Let us LEARN from Ancient Indians of HUMAN-ORIGIN...

--on the CONCEPT OF HUMANITY !"


--Said the GERMAN Multi-faceted Scholar... Dr Max Muller.!!!



Yes. such a HUMAN-CONCEPT is the so called Human-values.!

What does it mean.?

The sense of Human-Values starts with the MOTHERLY SPIRIT.

Secondly the Family-Values... within Ones own Family.-- comprising of Parents, Brothers and Sisters--- during early days...

Then, after Marriage, the Family comprising of Husband & Wife, Children and Grand-parents.

Why so.?


(1) Wisdom alone cannot ENRICH LIFE--- HEARTY SPIRIT is equally important...

...as One amongst the Pair of Eyes...

---intended to show the Third dimension... the DEPTH OF LIFE...

..which alone can make anybody's Life MEANINGFUL, PURPOSEFUL...

... as well as HAPPY AND SUCCESSFUL.!

Are we following and practicing such a Healthy Code of Life... now-a-days.? How far.? How many amongst us.?

Most of us are BLINDLY FOLLOWING the Western Culture...

"You my wife... and I your Husband... only mean the Family.

--Even our Children are our Burden... However we will share their problem of Bringing up upto some extent... Then let them take care of themselves.!

Our Children's Marriage.?...

Oh it is THEIR PERSONAL AFFAIR... PRIVATE MATTER. So let them choose their match of consort and Live as they like.

...and wander as STRAY DOGS as they like---like Wagabonds or Hyppies.... Let us not bother.

...and the MOST IMPORTANT point... Even myself NOT YOURS for ever... Nor You need be mine for ever...

---we can CHANGE AND EXCHANGE our Couplehood ---


---Because the Marriage is ONLY FOR SEX--- Nothing beyond.!


--similar to Animals and Birds.!

And let we couple lead our Life as Animals enjoy... without any Sense and Spirit as Husband and Wife...

---but just as SEX-MATES.!"

Indian TRADITIONAL Culture.... NOT GOOD for the Contemporary Humanity.?

Yes. Since the Indian Culture is an ANCIENT--- OUT-DATED.... TRIBAL CULTURE.?

But the Western Culture is THE MOST MODERN and Updated Culture...

---APT AND BEST APPLICABLE -- for the Present day Mankind.?

Then can we say thar Dr Max Muller is the WISEST IDIOT.?...

....as some of the Scholars laughed and ridiculed at him.!



"Oh Indian.!... the SAVAGE CULTURE.. Ha Ha Ha.!!!"



.Is it so.?

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[Sudhaama]

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PRE-MARITAL SEX -- Not Immoral.?


..Dignified Culture of HUMAN-VALUES.?


-- Not LOSS OF CHARACTER.?



Cine-Star Kushboo has been acquitted by Indian Supreme Court---

--- in 22 Cases of Criminial Charges... of alleged HUMAN-CHARACTER ASSASSINATION on Indian Human- Cultural Values---

--- By means of her ADVOCATION and PROPOGATION for PRE-MARITAL SEX.

http://www.hindu.com/2010/04/29/stor...2951060100.htm

Courtesy The Hindu.

Two Simple Questions--- To the Protagonists for Pre-Marital Sex

Please let us know.--

(1) Will you allow your Daughters and Sisters to have Pre-Marial Sex.?

(2) Will You accept whole-heartedly a Lady to become YOUR WIFE or Your Daughter-in-Law---

---who had varied affairs of Pre-Marital sex with several Males prior to her Marriage.?---

---at par or in preference to a Virgin.?


Quo-Vadis India.? (whereto You India Go.?)

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[raagadevan]

Kushboo didn't direct remark at any person or group: court

http://www.hindu.com/2010/04/30/stor...3063021500.htm

[Sudhaama]

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Should Indian Marriage-Market become dry?


-- and Bereft of Clean Virgins at all...


--- prior to Marriage at Youth stage in India.?

Kushboo didn't direct remark at any person or group:

- Supreme court


http://www.hindu.com/2010/04/30/stor...3063021500.htm

May be She did not address anybody or a Group..!

If it were so-- it would have been taken up as AN INSULT... to an Individual or a Group only...

--since it is applicable only to the Specific person.!

But addressing the whole Indian Society by a Popular LADY... whose words are considered as Gospels by some Cine Fans...

--is it NOT AN INSULT to the Indian Society..?

Validation of an IMMORALITY.?...

...Misdirecting the Innocent Youth towards LOSE CHARACTER.?

If popular personages start propogating such vicious ideas amongst the Youth...

---towards creation of DEMORAL Society---A CULTURAL DETIORATION.

---then what will happen.? Let us imagine.!

Already our Indian Youth are getting gradually tempted towards Western DUBIOUS Modernities.

Let the Indian Youth think awhile.!

Do they want the whole Indian Society to get polluted, becoming character-less by UTTER IMMORALITY.?

Should the Indian Marriage Field become dry and bereft of Virgins at all... prior to Marriage at Youth stage.?

Even after Marriage.. it is a very bad practice of IMMORALITY.
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And before Marriage it is A VERY GRAVE PRACTICE...

--to Provocate or Propogate ILLEGITIMATE SEX... prior to Marriage.

Eventually the whole Indian Society will become Sick mentally and Physically.!

.Let the Protoganists reply to my Two questions raised in my previous posting.

Then we can know... what sermons they preach only to Others.!

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[pavalamani pragasam]

She is a deity worthy of a temple built for her! And her gospels worthily upheld/propagated by the Supreme Court! A shame! A shame to waste one's time and energy over such 'solemn' matters!

[joe]

. whose words are considered as Gospels by some Cine Fans... .

அப்படி சில பேர் இருந்தா அவங்களுக்கு நல்ல மருத்துவரா பார்த்து சிகிச்சை கொடுக்கணுமே தவிர அவங்களுக்காக தீர்ப்பு எழுத முடியாது.

[joe]

மறுபடியுமா ?

இப்போ கோர்ட் என்ன சொல்லிப் போட்டாங்க ”குஷ்பு சொன்னது ரொம்ப அற்புதமான கருத்து ..நாட்டுக்கு ரொம்ப பயனுள்ளது .அரசாங்கம் இந்த கருத்தை பரப்ப ஒரு வாரியம் அமைச்சு மக்களுக்கு கொண்டு போகணும் “ இப்படி சொல்லிட்டாங்களா என்ன?

குஷ்பு சொன்னது ஒரு கருத்து ..அது நல்ல கருத்தா ,கெட்ட கருத்தா -ன்னு கோர்ட் முடிவெடுத்து சொல்லுற மாதிரி இல்ல .அவர் கருத்தால நேரடியா யாரும் பாதிக்கப்படலை .அதனால இதுக்காக அவரை தண்டிக்க முடியாது -ன்னு சொல்லிருக்காங்க.

இதை புரிஞ்சுக்க அத்தனை கஷ்டமா?