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26th February 2005, 11:50 AM
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Sathiya Keerthi (@ pano*) on: Wed Jul 16 21:54:08 EDT 1997
In response to Nammaooru:
I agree with you that Sivaji's films also had
excellent music; but this was because he acted
mostly under excellent directors and they made
sure that great tunes were made by the MDs.
If you take old movies acted by Sivaji under
vague directors, e.g., Anjal Petti 520 or some
such movies, there were no good songs in
them; and look at what happened in the movies
of Sivaji after 1978 or so: all were cheap makes
by vague producers and directors and no good
songs. On the other hand, even the last movie
of MGR (was it M.Meetta Su. Pandian) had
great hits. MGR made sure that all his movies
had great songs. Of course there are exceptions
(can we list a few?), but that happened because
MGR had agreed to act for some producer, but did
not have time to follow-up the music creation.
I fully agree with Rajaraman that MGR had a
very good taste for music.
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Aravind (@ 202.*) on: Mon Jul 21 22:33:38 EDT 1997
I feel that MGR took more interest in the songs of the movie than Sivaji. I have read SPB telling that MGR waited for 3 months for SPB to get back from his illness and sing for him in '1000 nilavE vaa'. Sivaji, I think, does not take so much pains as far as the songs are concerned.
Moreover, we cannot compare Rajini and MGR as far as songs are concerned. Recently, Rajini songs are hit only because they are Rajini's songs. pEththal songs like 'kuluvaalilE', 'vidukadhaiyaa', 'nagumO' etc are listened by people only because of the Rajini factor.
But in MGR's case, the songs defenitely had a class by absolute standards. Songs from paNam padaiththavan, padagOtti, u. su. vaaliban would have been hit even otherwise.
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Ravi (@ eagl*) on: Tue Jul 22 08:07:48 EDT 1997
I know Satya has taken Anjal Petti 520 as an example. But it has one good song - 10 16 muttham muttham by TMS. Also in the late 70's when Sivaji was giving flops one after another (Dr Siva, Utthaman, Ilaya thalimurai etc..
but some of these movies had some good songs) it was Deepam (MD IR) that resurrected his market. Deepam had 2 good songs - Andhapurathil oru maharani - TMS&SJ and Poovizhi vasalil - KJ&SJ and excellent BGM. After Deepam, Sivaji had some decent hits in Annan oru koil (MSV), Andhamaan Kadhali(MSV) and Thyagam(IR).
Ravi
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Sathiya Keerthi (@ libe*) on: Tue Jul 22 21:20:33 EDT 1997
Ravi:
I wouldn't rate "10-16 muththam muththam" as
"quite ordinary" only. Also, the movies that
you are mentioning acted by Shivaji are not
the ones that I was pointing out. I was
mentioning about those which came even
after, say after 1980 or so.
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Vadi Velu (@ 202.*) on: Tue Jul 22 22:35:45 EDT 1997
I remember Pattakathi Bairavan, in spite of the title, had some nice songs. What movies are you particularly refering to?
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Ravi (@ eagl*) on: Wed Jul 23 13:24:43 EDT 1997
To Vadi Velu,
A couple of nice duets from PKB are
Davadha Oru devadhai - SPB&SJ
Engengo selleum - SPB & SJ
Some of the Sivaji movies released in the 80's
1. Dharmaraja
2. Sandhippu
3. Sangili
4. Mridanga Chakravarthy
5. Rishimoolam (a few good songs in there)
6. Thyagi
7. Amarakavyam (remake of Muquadar ka sikandhar - spelling?)
8. Pilot premnath (late 70's?)
9. Keezh vanam sivakkum
I'm not counting Mudhal mariyadhai. If these are the movies Sathya meant, then I fully agree with him. But MGR's last movie MMSPandiyan came in 1977. Wouldn't be fair to comapre films of these 2 people from a common period?
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26th February 2005, 11:50 AM
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Sathiya Keerthi (@ libe*) on: Wed Jul 23 21:09:57 EDT 1997
Ravi:
If you look at the later movies of Shivaji which
were made by vague directors (some you have
mentioned) they had poor songs; on the other hand
movies such as Mudhal Mariyaadhai had excellent
music. So there is my point: music in Shivaji
movies was mainly dependant on who the director
was! If you want some oldie-examples here are
some: Vilayaattu Pillai; Paadhugaappu; Iru Dhuruvam;
Arunodhayam; Anbai Thedi; En Magan. I don't
think they had any "great" songs.
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Ravi (@ hope*) on: Fri Aug 1 16:26:27 EDT 1997
S-G scored music for 'nERRu inRu naaLai' also. It had the famous - 'paadum pOthu naan thenRal kaaRRu'. I am not sure whether it had any other good numbers.
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Sathiya Keerthi (@ libe*) on: Sat Aug 2 00:41:17 EDT 1997
Ravi:
Netru Indru Naalai - MD is MSV.
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anu (@ 131.*) on: Wed Jan 14 22:04:45 EST 1998
hi hello vanakkam from this MGR fan
I am a youngster age22 but I have a great liking for the Oldies goldies especially MGR film songs
I think they are very very popular
I think MGR paid more attention to every aspect of his movie-especially songs.More over it was the effect of the so called -MGR formula -no lies,no nonsense about women,no drinking or bad activities in his role. every role,film and song had something to offer to a common man to stop and ponder about.
Partly this was also a political image created thro such good thoughts,roles and deeds.
whatever it may be the effect it created can never be reached by anything else.the mass appeal is so much
further kannadasan wrote the most number of lyrics and the were the best.the music scoring by most of the music directors were also excellent.
koduthadellam koduthaan avan yaarukaga koduthaan?
alai mel midhaka vittan
buddhan esu gandhi piranthathu
enna dhaan nadakum nadakatume
thaai mel aanai
moondrezhuthil en moochirukum
naan ungal veetu pillai
thaai illamal naan illai
adho andha paravai pola vazha vendum
kanpona pokkile kaal pogalama
etc etc ican fill up the whole website with it
everysong had a life,an inspiration,a theme,an advice,a warning, a subtle advice which any day anytime gives meaning on how one should lead a good life.
I guess and firmly believe all these things made them what they are.
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