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7th October 2005, 02:05 PM
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Ramanujacharya - The great Philosopher and Social Reformer
Shall we exchange our thoughts about Sri Ramanujacharya..
The great Philosopher and Social reformer.....
Born and brought up at Sri Perumbudhur... Just few hours drive from Chennai....
Was instrumental in developing Vaishnavism
Long before, he broke the ills of casteism....
Treated all with equal respect....
Looking forward to more and more information about him and his philosophy on VISHISTADVAITHAM...
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7th October 2005 02:05 PM
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7th October 2005, 08:39 PM
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Just to stimulate the discussion
Dear friends,
After reading my posts in other threads, completely refuting and demolishing the philosophies of Absolute Advaita, Qualified Advaita and Dualism, I have no doubt that the following factual remark will stimulate the discussion and help the participants to be very cautious while discussing the two completely opposing philosophies on Advaita.
Ramanuja's Qualified Advaita furiously opposed and successfully demolished the philosophy of Absolute Advaita propounded by Gaudapada and Adhi Sankara.
While the parallel Dvaita (Dualist) school furiously opposed and rejected the philosophy of Qualified Advaita propounded by Ramanuja.
And I have unequivocally proved it in various threads that the absolute evolution of the universe from normalised "nothing" is a factual and proven reality, and it is supported by overwhelming scientific evidences, which in turn strongly supports the Buddhist worldview of Nirvana - Sunyta - Emptiness - Void - Undiminishing negation of Self/Soul/Atman/Brahman/Narayan/Ishvar/Creator/God.
With above comment, I shall let the interested participants, here and elsewhere in other threads, carryon discussing what is nothing but absolutely obsolete and mutually contradicting philosophical materials that have no validity whatsoever in light of intellectual advances in the fields of science and philosophical sophistication.
For full detail of my proofs, please refer to:
http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewt...=asc&start=615
There are only two mistakes one can make along the road to Truth; not going all the way, and not starting.
- Buddha
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25th October 2005, 07:43 PM
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Aadi Shankara
He is the greatest Spiritual person and the outstanding Philosopher the world has ever seen.
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3rd November 2005, 08:54 AM
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Re: Ramanujacharya - The great Philosopher and Social Reform
Originally Posted by
S.Balaji
Shall we exchange our thoughts about Sri Ramanujacharya..
The great Philosopher and Social reformer.....
Born and brought up at Sri Perumbudhur... Just few hours drive from Chennai....
Was instrumental in developing Vaishnavism
Long before, he broke the ills of casteism....
Treated all with equal respect....
Looking forward to more and more information about him and his philosophy on VISHISTADVAITHAM...
Thanks for initiating a Good Topic .... many are unaware of.
What is meant by these words... "Was instrumental in developing Vaishnavism"
First of all ... What is Vaishnavism or Vaishnavam.?
Then what do you call the Sankaracharyas and Madhwacharyas?
In fact Ramanujas Propogation... is called as "SRI VAISHNAVAM"...
Because the other Two (Sankaracharyas and Madhwacharyas) too are Vaishnavam only but with a slight difference ...
They give importance only to Narayana and not much importance to His Lakshmi-Devi and Bhoomi-devi.
Whereas this so called Sri-Vaishnavam propogated by Alwars and Ramanuja, it is Duplex-form of Worship as Lakshmi-Narayana ... or Thiru-Narayana... on the principle of Purushakaarathvam (worshipping Vishnu through the Mother Lakshmi).
It can be noted in Temples... Ramanujas disciples worship Lakshmi first and then proceed to Vishnu Sannidhi..
Ramanuja was NOT THE FOUNDER OF the NEW PHILOSOPHY OF VISISHTA- ADHWAITHA ... like many are thinking...
... at par with other Founders of Adhwaitha and Dhwaitha.
Sri-Vaishnavam of Aalwars already existed, even before Ramanuja, Sankara and Madhwa Acharyas... since propogated by Alwars and earlier Acharyas like Nathamuni.and Aalawandar.
But the name VISISHTA-ADHWAITHA was carved later by Ramanuja.
The main difference between these three Acharyas is only on the Philosphical aspect... on the Inter-relations between the Creator and Creatures...
... so to say Jeevaathma and Paramaathma.... How they are mutualy related?.. How the Devotee should approach God.?....Each Philosophy is Unique.
While the other Two Acharyas have taken up only two different parts of the Vedic- concepts as relevant to their respective Theories... and left out the rest untouched...
Ramanujas Philosophy is Total on the whole of Vedic- concepts, thus greatly varying with the other two.
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3rd November 2005, 09:13 AM
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Well said, Sudhamaa!
And just to add to what Sudhamaa has already explained, Ramanuja's philosophy took into consideration all the normal human desires, aspirations and capabilities. In fact the whole premise of worshipping the Lord through Sri or Thaayar (Mother) itself captures this aspect.
When we stop labouring under the delusion of our cosmic self-importance, we are free of hindrance, fear, worry and attachment. We are liberated!!!
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3rd November 2005, 06:46 PM
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Ramanujar is supposed to be avatar of Adi Seshan?
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3rd November 2005, 10:31 PM
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Re: Aadi Shankara
Originally Posted by
jagan_namboothiri
He is the greatest Spiritual person and the outstanding Philosopher the world has ever seen.
Ok, I will just take your word for it, for the time being! -- But the greater part of the world have not seen him.. What do you say?
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4th November 2005, 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by
viggop
Ramanujar is supposed to be avatar of Adi Seshan?
Yes... Ramanujacharya was the RE-INCARNATION of Adhi-Sesha... which fact came to light not only by such a statement by the then Gjanis lived along with him... but also proved THRICE during his Lifetime.events.
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4th November 2005, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by
Sudhaama
Yes... Ramanujacharya was the RE-INCARNATION of Adhi-Sesha... which fact came to light not only by such a statement by the then Gjanis lived along with him... but also proved THRICE during his Lifetime.events.
Dear Mr Sudhaama,
why you are contradicting yourselfs? Some times you are saying that veda's lead to single universal God but many times you are attaching so many parivaars to god and Devas. Do you believe literal meaning of Adi seshan, Parkadal and reincarnation of Adiseshan too? Why you can't you please discuss history as just history? Why can't we look Ramanujar as simple human being with the wholehearted motive to express the truth he knows to all human irrespective of birth?
Netrikan thirapinum kutram kutrame...
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4th November 2005, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by
r_kk
Originally Posted by
Sudhaama
Yes... Ramanujacharya was the RE-INCARNATION of Adhi-Sesha... which fact came to light not only by such a statement by the then Gjanis lived along with him... but also proved THRICE during his Lifetime.events.
Dear Mr Sudhaama,
why you are contradicting yourselfs? Some times you are saying that veda's lead to single universal God but many times you are attaching so many parivaars to god and Devas. Do you believe literal meaning of Adi seshan, Parkadal and reincarnation of Adiseshan too? Why you can't you please discuss history as just history? Why can't we look Ramanujar as simple human being with the wholehearted motive to express the truth he knows to all human irrespective of birth?
Dear Mr r_kk,
It is your opinion... You cannot dictate terms on how the other man should write or approach the matter.... Please note the Thread- Topic Heading......
RAMANUJACHARYA, THE GREAT PHILOSOPHER AND SOCIAL REFORMER.
which invites the Hubbers to think in lines of how that Acharya was Great, his Philosophy, Social- Reform and Biography... indirectly coupled with Tamilian and Indian Culture as well...
... rather a multi-faceted deal in different aspects concerned... as any Hubber want to think, raise question as well as put forth his individual thoughts true to the spirit of any Forum.
This Forum is not meant just to PLEASE or Cater to the individual taste of Mr. r_kk... but to all the Hubbers.
You are welcome to put forth whatever you feel like saying on this Subject... Yes... you have every freedom as much as I or any other Hubber possess... and not beyond, towards ENCROACHING or hitting at others intentionally
. just to hurt and DISCOURAGE OTHERS and for your gaining negative pleasure out of it..
... as also show... how wiser and smarter you are than all others.
Well I accept you as a Very Very Wise person. Is it enough?
Please don't try to change others as your REPLICA... If you have a very poor opinion about me...Well... Please call me a Fool and leave me.
For God's sake please Stop with it... It is clear you are not interested in this subject and then why break your head and others too unnecessarily and PERSISTENTLY?
With Best Wishes,
Sudhaama.
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