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13th October 2005, 12:51 PM
#91
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Originally Posted by
viggop
the 2 sages who worshipped Shiva in chidambaram were patanjali and vyagrapada(who assumed for of Puli,i think).
karaikal ammaiyar is another famous nayanmar.it seems she reached kailash in the form of skeleton all worn out.shiva is said to have pointed to her to Parvathi and said that she is your mother-in-law!!!
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Dear Viggop, i think it is Karaikal ammaiyar who was crowned as Sivakami ammaiyar, once she reaches Makeshwar in kailash
Originally Posted by
viggop
i'm not sure whether shiva will curse parvathi.in her previous form as sati,she'll visit the yagna of her father to which Lord Shiva will not be invited.she'll go defying the Lord.i think she burn herself out of remorse.later,she'll be born as parvathi and will pray for a long time to win shiva's attention.
Yes this is true, Thatchan was performing a rituals without inviting the lord, thatchan was furious over lord's kidnapping of his daughter, hence he did not invite lord to the Yagna, the moral behind this is, always obey your husband!!
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13th October 2005 12:51 PM
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13th October 2005, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
Raghu
Yes this is true, Thatchan was performing a rituals without inviting the lord, thatchan was furious over lord's kidnapping of his daughter, hence he did not invite lord to the Yagna, the moral behind this is, always obey your husband!!
I do wonder where you get these strange stories from, Raghu! Siva doesn't kidnap Sati or anything! Daksha Prajapati himself offered his daughter in marriage to Siva. Once, during an assembly of Gods, when Daksha entered, all the gods, including Vishnu and Brahma stood up to honor him as the Prajapati of the Kalpa. Shiva, knowing the man's pride and arrogance, did not care to stand up. This was seen as a huge insult by Daksha and to avenge the insult, he decided to conduct a Yagna specificaly aimed at insulting Shiva, as he did not want to invite Shiva or offer the havis to him.
No kidnapping business here!
When we stop labouring under the delusion of our cosmic self-importance, we are free of hindrance, fear, worry and attachment. We are liberated!!!
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13th October 2005, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by
sbadri99
Originally Posted by
Raghu
Yes this is true, Thatchan was performing a rituals without inviting the lord, thatchan was furious over lord's kidnapping of his daughter, hence he did not invite lord to the Yagna, the moral behind this is, always obey your husband!!
I do wonder where you get these strange stories from, Raghu! Siva doesn't kidnap Sati or anything! Daksha Prajapati himself offered his daughter in marriage to Siva. Once, during an assembly of Gods, when Daksha entered, all the gods, including Vishnu and Brahma stood up to honor him as the Prajapati of the Kalpa. Shiva, knowing the man's pride and arrogance, did not care to stand up. This was seen as a huge insult by Daksha and to avenge the insult, he decided to conduct a Yagna specificaly aimed at insulting Shiva, as he did not want to invite Shiva or offer the havis to him.
No kidnapping business here!
oh , sorry badri anNe
but I have watched the Tamil film thiruvilaiyadhal, there i saw a similar incident like this, any way not to worry, i must have got it wrong
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13th October 2005, 01:01 PM
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No problem, Raghu Thambi! Athukku thaaney intha Forumhub! So that we can all learn!!
When we stop labouring under the delusion of our cosmic self-importance, we are free of hindrance, fear, worry and attachment. We are liberated!!!
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19th October 2005, 12:15 PM
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Badri anNe
any Ideas about the reasons behind Maheshwar avatars of Veerapathirar, Vairavar, Thatchanamoorthy??
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19th October 2005, 02:37 PM
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Shall we discuss about Siruthondar alias Paranjothi .. Born in the Village Thiruchengaatkudi in Thanjavur District , he belongs to the 5th century AD and was a contemprory to Thirunavukarasar and Nyanasambandhar. The legend says that he actually wanted to have good education and moved to Kanchi but later joined the Pallava army under Mahendra varma Pallava . He was one of the architects of rebuilding the Pallava empire under Mamalla Narasimha the great Pallava ruler of the 5th Century. Paranjothi was instrumental in building a massive army which went to Vatapi ( today’s Badami in Upper Karnataka and destroyed the mighty Pulikesi , the Chalukiya King and won the pride of the Pallavas back as earlier Mahendravarma was defeated by Pulikesi during his Southern march.
Paranjothi later got inspired by Thirunavukarasar and parted ways with Narasimha and moved towards spiritual life. He was called Siruthondar as he wanted to serve the devotees of Lord Shiva.
There is another interesting aspect in his life . It is believed that after defeating Pulikesi, he brought the Vinayaka idol from Vatapi and installed it in his native village of Thiruchengatkudi. It is heard that this temple is still in existence in this village.
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19th October 2005, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by
Raghu
Badri anNe
any Ideas about the reasons behind Maheshwar avatars of Veerapathirar, Vairavar, Thatchanamoorthy??
Raghu Saar,
It is not right to call Veerabadra or any other forms as an avatar of Shiva. Shiva is pirappili or the One of no birth. Kripanandha Variyar, in his commentaries of Tiruppugaz, where Arunagiri calls Hanuman an avatar of Rudra, points to this and says the forms of Rudra and Shiva are to be seen in isolation. Shiva is pirappili.
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19th October 2005, 07:11 PM
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Hanuman being an avatar of Lord Shiva is also mentioned in one of thygaraja Kritis.It is "Adamodi galade" in charukesi.
U have a line called "chaduvulanni telisi shankaramshudai" meaning Hanuman was called as a amsa of Lord Shiva.
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19th October 2005, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by
Hari Krishnan
Originally Posted by
Raghu
Badri anNe
any Ideas about the reasons behind Maheshwar avatars of Veerapathirar, Vairavar, Thatchanamoorthy??
Raghu Saar,
It is not right to call Veerabadra or any other forms as an avatar of Shiva. Shiva is pirappili or the One of no birth. Kripanandha Variyar, in his commentaries of Tiruppugaz, where Arunagiri calls Hanuman an avatar of Rudra, points to this and says the forms of Rudra and Shiva are to be seen in isolation. Shiva is
pirappili.
aiyayo, naa onum saar ilingo, may be a grandson to you , back in Jaffna, we have loads of Temples for Veerabadra, and it was said that veerabadra was an avatar of Isha(Sanskrit) or Ishwar in thamizh!!!
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19th October 2005, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
Hari Krishnan
Originally Posted by
Raghu
Badri anNe
any Ideas about the reasons behind Maheshwar avatars of Veerapathirar, Vairavar, Thatchanamoorthy??
Raghu Saar,
It is not right to call Veerabadra or any other forms as an avatar of Shiva. Shiva is pirappili or the One of no birth. Kripanandha Variyar, in his commentaries of Tiruppugaz, where Arunagiri calls Hanuman an avatar of Rudra, points to this and says the forms of Rudra and Shiva are to be seen in isolation. Shiva is
pirappili.
Hari ji
what is Pirappili, no origin no end, in thamizh 'aathiyumilla anthamumilla arul perim jhithi'??
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