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rajsekar
25th October 2014, 01:27 AM
I had earlier planned to comment on this news item, but couldn't do it.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/news/Are-stars-too-busy-to-to-pay-their-last-respects/articleshow/44924781.cms

Where are our so called superstars and egocentric technical artists in Madras? Few are busy dancing with 27 year old actresses. I would be really surprised if Ilayaraja didn't attend Ashok Kumar's funeral. I see Raaja attending all kinds of functions in recent months. Anyway, I cannot comment on film world politics.

I want to highlight the great artistic work done by Ashok Kumar combined with fantastic musical scores by Ilayaraja. Ashok Kumar has done maximum number of movie/ song cinematography using Raja's scores. Incidentally Ashok Kumar handled the lens for all of Mahendran's movies. Ashok Kumar won the National Award for Nenjathai Killathe in 1980. During that period, the Indian film banner/ poster had a rare design wherein only three technical artist's names would be printed against a background silhouette of the movie title. It would be "Mahendran, Ilayaraja, Ashok Kumar". Everything else is irrelevant. Some of those movies became super hits. It was a rare and great combination of artists in Indian films. Even today you cannot see see such film banners or posters. If I am correct, India's first female cinematographer BR Vijayalakshmi (worked in several Bhagyaraj's films) tutored under Ashok Kumar.

The current trend is to show the hero's name prominently printed followed by the heroine's item number. The names of Music director and Cinematographer is printed in the smallest font. The music director is anyway a complete waste for current movies, since pirated tunes and scores are most sought after. Have you heard the latest "Kathi" songs? - all third rate tunes. Sorry, I am digressing from the main post.

Ashok Kumar and Balu Mahendra were two pioneering cinematographers who used natural lighting for all their work. The entire film shooting would be scheduled to suit day light conditions and as a result their movies would take longer time to complete. They used filters to the maximum extent. Below you can enjoy three of my favorite and extraordinary song sequences of Ashok Kumar's brilliant day light frames (pay attention to the hair frills and wide angle shots in natural light) along with Ilayaraja's mesmerizing orchestration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHDrDZHBQRo
(Ashok Kumar directed this super hit movie and requested Raja to re-tune another super-duper song. Hear the two great interludes and compare that with the original Tamil song)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25p9EQA4Hsc (Uma Ramanan's rendering)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUI1FLexJrY (S.Janaki's soulful rendering in Hindi and possibly the first full Hindi song in a Tamil film)

rajsekar
25th October 2014, 02:27 AM
Forgot to attach this link of Ashok Kumar's photo album. Raja and Amar with Ashok Kumar in the composing room.

http://indiaz.com/shri-ashok-kumar.html
http://indiaz.com/shri-ashok-kumar.html/2

krish244
25th October 2014, 02:11 PM
The news says IR has completed song recording for "THAARAI THAPPATTAI". Also, there are plans to make audio release a grand function.

http://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/ilaiyaraaja-completes-tharai-thappattai-songs-031451.html

thanks,

Krishnan

sivasub
25th October 2014, 09:15 PM
http://tamil.filmibeat.com/specials/rajini-ilaiyaraaja-panju-arunachalam-rare-meeting-031237.html

rajsekar
26th October 2014, 09:21 PM
Siva, thanks for posting this piece. I remember seeing the photo of Raja and Rajini in PA's house several months ago in another post. If I remember correctly, the article mentioned that Rajini and Raja would jointly produce a movie free of cost for PA Arts banner due to the financial difficulty of PA as a result of long term medical treatment costs. The Filmi Beat article quotes that "Kalyanaraman" was directed by SP Muthuraman. That's not correct. GN Rangarajan directed "Kalyanaraman". In fact GNR directed nearly 12 movies for PA Arts banner (all super hits) and Raja didn't charge any fee for the background scores and songs. GNR mentioned this during an audio launch function. It remains to be seen whether Rajini would do another movie after "Lingaa". Lingaa production is being rushed through as a fast paced project to compensate Tamil film distributors for their losses incurred after Kochadiyaan flop. As always, the distributors bear the brunt of any flop as well as reap rewards when the film becomes a runaway success. The artists, director and producer(s) walk away with neat money after the movie is auctioned or sold to distributors & TV companies. I am also doubtful if Rajini and Kamal would do a movie with Raja in future. Time will tell us, soon.

K
27th October 2014, 10:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-R1LMcShWQ

Raja Fans and Others

rajaramsgi
28th October 2014, 07:33 PM
ஒளிபதிவில் அசோக் குமார் ஒரு டிரெண்ட் செட்டர் என்பது நம்மை போன்ற சாதாரணமானவர்களுக்கே தெரியும். அவரை பின் பற்றி வந்த இயக்குனர்களும் ஒளிபதிவாளர்களும் , அவருடன் வேலை செய்தவர்களும் அஞ்சலி செலுத்த போகாதது வருத்தமான செய்தி. ஒரு வேலை தீபாவளியன்று அவர் மரணம் அடைந்ததால், அவர் மறைந்த விஷயம் வெளியில் தெரியவில்லையோ என்னவோ. பாவம், கடந்த இரண்டு வருடங்களாக மிகவும் கஷ்டபட்டுவிட்டார்.

மகேந்திரனுடன் வேலை பார்த்ததை சொல்லி விட்டீர்கள். பாக்யராஜ், பாண்டியராஜன், பிரதாப் போத்தன், மனோபாலா, மணிவண்ணன், பி. வாசு, ஷங்கர், பவித்ரன் ஆகியோருடனும் அவர் வேலை பார்த்திருக்கிறார்.

உள்ளம் கவர்ந்த கள்வன்: http://play.raaga.com/tamil/album/ullam-kavarntha-kalvan-t0002982
அபிநந்தனா : http://play.raaga.com/telugu/album/abhinandana-a0000005
காமாகினி: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CicYv-yQNAU&list=PLZlsAlSE3yKQOq0XCBagOYHx8lTnsSDZ_

rajaramsgi
28th October 2014, 07:37 PM
http://tamil.filmibeat.com/specials/rajini-ilaiyaraaja-panju-arunachalam-rare-meeting-031237.html



தாரை தப்பட்டை பாடல்களை 3 நாட்களுக்குள் 12 பாடல்கள் முடித்து குடுத்து 6 மாதங்களுக்கு மேல் ஆகி விட்டதே....

irir123
29th October 2014, 08:06 AM
the trendsetter from Tollywood, "Shiva" completed its 25th anniversary of its release - Ram Gopal Varma barely just about mentioned IR in that function.

Shiva without IR's score would have been a dud!

Russellhaj
29th October 2014, 08:43 AM
கவிஞர் வாலி பிறந்தநாள் விழா: MSV / இளையராஜா / நா. காமராசன் / பிரபஞ்சன் / பஞ்சு அருணாசலம் கலந்துகொள்கிறார்கள்


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1AZAxACUAAdgmq.jpg:large

Russellhaj
30th October 2014, 02:17 AM
Meanwhile in real world .........:)



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1FhDwtCEAEtU_9.jpg:large

Russellhaj
30th October 2014, 02:45 AM
இளையராஜா கூறுகிறார்...

பாரதிராஜா அவரது “காதல் ஓவியம்” படத்தின் மீது ரொம்ப நம்பிக்கை வைத்திருந்தார்.

நான் மூகாம்பிகையின் தீவிர பக்தன் என்பதால், “படத்தின் நாயகன் அம்பாளின் பக்தன் என்று சொன்னால், இளையராஜா நல்ல டிïன்களை எலலாம் போட்டுத்தருவார்” என்று பாரதியிடம் உதவியாளர்களாக இருந்த மணிவண்ணனும், கலைமணியும் சொல்லியிருப்பார்கள் போலும்.

நான் அப்படத்துக்கு இசை அமைத்தேன். ஒருநாள் மாலை நேரத்தில் ஆரம்பித்த பாடல் `கம்போசிங்’ அன்றே முடிந்துவிட்டது. படத்துக்கான எட்டுப்பாடல்களும் தயாராகிவிட்டன.

படம், பின்னணி இசை சேர்ப்புக்காக வந்தபோது, அந்த படத்தின் மீது எனக்கு நம்பிக்கை வரவில்லை. பாரதியிடம், “படம் ரிலீஸ் ஆவதற்குள் நாம் இருவரும் குருவாïர் போய் வரலாம்” என்றேன். “சரி” என்றார். வேலை சரியாக இருந்ததால், நகர முடியவில்லை.

திடீரென்று ஒருநாள் கலைமணியை பாரதி கூப்பிட்டு, “ஏய்யா! படத்திலே ஏதோ ஒன்னு குறையுதே. உனக்குத் தெரியாதா? தெரிந்தா சொல்லு!” என்றார்.

“அது ஒன்றும் இல்லே சார். கதைதான் குறையுது!” என்று கலைமணி கூற, எல்லோரும் விழுந்து விழுந்து சிரித்தோம். கலைமணியை பாரதி அடிக்கப்போக, அவர் தப்பி ஓடிவிட்டார்.

படம் ரிலீஸ் ஆகியது. ஒரு வாரத்தில், படப்பெட்டிகள் எல்லாம் திரும்பி வந்துவிட்டன.

பாரதி என்னிடம் வந்து, “வா, குருவாïர் போய் வரலாம்” என்றார். “படம் ரிலீஸ் ஆவதற்கு முன்பல்லவா போயிருக்க வேண்டும். இப்போது வேண்டாமே!” என்று கூறிவிட்டேன்.

“காதல் ஓவியம்” படம் சரியாகப் போகாததால், பாரதி மனம் சங்கடப்பட்டார். ரசிகர்கள் மீது கோபப்பட்டார்.

“பாரதி! ரசிகர்களை குறை கூறவேண்டாம். அவர்கள் எப்போதும் சரியாகவே இருப்பார்கள்” என்றேன்.

“உனக்குத் தெரியாது. இவர்களுக்கு எது வேணும் என்று எனக்குத் தெரியாதா? இவர்களுக்காக ஒரு மூன்று படி கீழே இறங்கி வந்து ஒரு படம் எடுத்துக் காட்டுகிறேன் பார்!” என்றார்.

அதற்கு நான், “யோசித்துப் பாருங்கள். 16 வயதினிலே படம் நன்றாக ஓடிக்கொண்டிருந்த அதே நேரத்தில், அதற்கு இணையாக விட்டலாச்சாரியாவின் “ஜெகன்மோகினி” படம் ஓடியதல்லவா? அதற்காக, பாரதிராஜா, ஜெகன்மோகினி போல படம் எடுக்கவேண்டும் என்று அர்த்தம் இல்லை. உங்களிடம் மக்கள் எதிர்பார்ப்பது வேறு. அதைவிட்டு எங்கும் போகவேண்டாம்” என்றேன்.

ஆனால் பாரதி தன் கருத்தில் உறுதியாக இருந்தார்.

ரசிகர்களுக்காகவே கீழே இறங்கி வந்து அவர் எடுத்த “வாலிபமே வா வா.” படம் ஓடவில்லை./



12 மணி நேரத்திற்குள் உருவானதா அந்த சாகா வரம் பெற்ற பாடல்கள்..? இசைஞானியே.. நீரே இசைவாணி..!

Russellhaj
30th October 2014, 09:57 AM
மறக்கமுடியுமா? மறந்தால் நான் மனுஷனா? .... வாலி பிறந்தநாள் விழாவில் இளையராஜா பேச்சு



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rboGPy5p3ds


Kavingar Vaali 83th Birthday Celebrations
http://www.tamilstar.com Kavingar Vaali 83th Birthday Celebrations held on 29th Oct 2014 at Kamaraja Arangam, Chennai. Ilaiyaraaja, Vivek, Panchu Arunachalam...

sivasub
31st October 2014, 06:24 AM
More speeches . All good http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5C0lhe2_CTY

Russellhaj
1st November 2014, 12:58 AM
"தென்றல் வந்து தீண்டும்போது" பாடல் பிறந்த கதை.. !


'தோணி' திரைப்படத்தின் ஒலிப்பேழை வெளியீட்டு விழாவில் நடிகர் நாசர் உரையில் இருந்து...

”1994ல் நான் இசைஞானியிடம் சென்று..

‘சார்..! ஒரு படம் பண்ணலாம் என்று இருக்கிறேன்..!’

‘எதுக்குய்யா.. ?? பிஸியா நடிச்சிகிட்டு இருக்க..! எதுக்கு இப்போ Produce பண்ணிகிட்டு?

‘இல்ல சார்..! நான் டைரக்ட் பண்ணலாம்னு இருக்கேன்’

‘இப்போதான் பிஸியா இருக்கியே..! இப்போ எதுக்குய்யா?’

‘இல்ல சார்..! சில விஷயங்கள் தோணும்போது பண்ணனும்’..!

‘ஓ! தெளிவா பேசுறதா நெனப்போ ஒனக்கு? சரி என்ன படம்..?’

“சார்..! ஒரு சின்ன கிராமத்துக்கதை.. தெருக்கூத்தை வைத்து… …”

“தெருக்கூத்தா..? என்னய்யா? நான் வேற Journey-ல இருக்கேன்..! ம்ம்ம்..?? சரி..! பார்க்கலாம்’ என்றார். நான் ஏமாற்றம் அடையவில்லை. படப்பிடிப்பிற்குச் சென்றேன். படம் எடுத்தேன். தொகுத்தேன். பின்னணிக்குரல் சேர்த்தேன். பின்னணி ஒலிகள் சேர்த்தேன். ஒரு நாள்..

“சார் நான் படத்தை முடிச்சுட்டேன்..”

“என்ன அதுக்குள்ளேயா?”

‘ஆமா சார்..! நீங்க படம் பார்க்கணும்”

“சரி” என்றவர் படம் பார்த்தார். அந்தப் படம் ‘அவதாரம்’..! படம் முடித்துக் காரில் ஏறி, ‘வீட்டுக்கு வா’ என்றார். எனக்கு ஒரே பயம். பல நூறு படங்களைக் கண்ட ஒரு மாபெரும் கலைஞன் என் படத்தைப் பார்க்கிறான். ஒரு விமர்சனம், ஒரு பாராட்டுதல் இல்லாமல் ‘வீட்டுக்கு வா’ என்றால் என்ன அர்த்தம்? ஒரு வேளைத் திட்டப் போகிறாரோ? என்று பயந்துகொண்டே சென்றேன். அவருடைய வீடு சாத்வீகமாக, ஒரு கோயில் போல இருந்தது.

‘எப்படிய்யா இப்படி ஒரு படம் பண்ணியிருக்க..? நல்லாயிருக்கே..! சரி நாளைக்கு ரெக்கார்டிங் வச்சுக்கலாம்’

‘சார்…! நாளைக்கு…. … வச்சா … … .. ப்ரொடியூசர் ஊரில் இல்ல சார்..’

‘ப்ரொடியூசர் எதுக்குய்யா? டைரக்டர் நீ இருக்க..! மியூசிக் டைரக்டர் நான் இருக்கேன்..! வா.. பாத்துக்கலாம்..!’

‘சார்..! அதில்ல சார்..!’

‘புரியுதுய்யா..! போய்யா அதெல்லாம் ஒண்ணும் வேணாம்..! ப்ரொடியூசர் எங்க இருக்காரு?’

‘சார்… வந்து... அமெரிக்காவில்’

‘சரி..! வரட்டும் ..! அப்பறம் பாத்துக்கலாம்..! ரெக்கார்டிங் நாளைக்கு…”

உங்கள் எல்லோருக்கும் தெரியும். சினிமாவில் அட்வான்ஸ் என்ற ஒன்று இல்லாமல் ஒரு காரியமும் நடக்காது. பலவிதமான Excitement-க்கு நடுவே இதனால் எனக்குத் தலைகால் புரியவில்லை. அடுத்த நாள் ஆறு மணிக்கு வரச்சொன்னார். பதைபதைப்புடன் போனேன்.

வெள்ளை வெளேர் என்ற ஒரு அறை. கருப்பு வெள்ளையில் ரமண மகரிஷியின் ஒரு புகைப்படம். அதனருகில் அம்மா என்கிற ஒரு ஆத்மாவின் புகைப்படம். அதே கருப்பு வெள்ளை 3D Animation போல அருகில் இளையராஜா, அவர் பக்கத்தில் ஒரு கோப்பையில் இறக்குமதி செய்யப்பட்ட சாக்லேட்டுகள்..! இவைகளைத் தவிர அந்த அறையில் இருந்த மற்றொரு முக்கியமான விஷயம் ”அமைதி”. நான் சென்றபோது ஏதோ எழுதிக்கொண்டிருந்தார். நான் உட்காரவா வேண்டாமா என்று தயங்கி நின்றுகொண்டிருந்தேன். உட்காரச் சொன்னார். உட்கார்ந்தேன். ஒரு சாக்லேட்டை எடுத்து என்னிடம் போட்டார். நான் அதைப் பிடித்தேன். அந்த சாக்லேட் பேப்பரின் ஒலிதான் அந்த அறையில் நான் நுழைந்து ஐந்து நிமிடங்களில் நான் கேட்ட முதல் ஒலி. ”இதைப்பிரித்தால் சாக்லேட் பேப்பரின் ஒலி இவரை Disturb செய்துவிடுமே..? இதைப் பிரிக்கலாமா வேண்டாமா? சாப்பிடுவதா இல்லையா?” என்று எனக்கு யோசனை.

அவர் எழுதிக்கொண்டே இருக்கிறார். எழுதிக்கொண்டே இருக்கிறார். வேகமாக எழுதுகிறார். கோபத்துடன் எழுதுகிறாரா, பாசத்துடன் எழுதுகிறாரா, யாருக்கு எழுதுகிறார், என்ன எழுதுகிறார், எதுவும் தெரியவில்லை. நான் உட்கார்ந்துகொண்டே இருக்கிறேன். மெதுவாக எனக்குக் கோபம் வரத்துவங்குகிறது. ”என்ன இது? நான் ஒரு டைரக்டர்..! என்னை வரச்சொல்லிவிட்டு இவர் எழுதிக்கொண்டிருக்கிறார்..! அவர் சொந்த விஷயத்தை எழுதுவதற்கு என்னை எதற்கு வரச்சொன்னார்? ஒரு பத்து நிமிடங்கள் கழித்து வரச்சொல்லியிருக்கலாமே?”

பக்கம் பக்கமாக வேகமாக எழுதியவர், நிமிர்ந்து ‘புரு...’ என்றார். அவர் கூறியது ஒரு நான்கு அடி தள்ளி அமர்ந்திருந்த என் வரைக்கும்தான் கேட்டிருக்கும். ஆனால் வெளியில் இருந்து ‘புரு’ என்கிற ஆறடி உயர ‘புருஷோத்தமன்’ வந்தார். அவர்கள் இருவருக்குள்ளும் அப்படி ஒரு Intimate communication..! Sheets எல்லாம் அவரிடம் கொடுத்துவிடுகிறார். ‘இதை Distribute பண்ணிடு’ என்கிறார்.

”சரி..! அவர் வேலை முடிந்தது..! இனி நம் வேலைக்கு வருவார்” என்று நினைத்தேன்.

‘என்ன சார்..?”

‘அது போய்டுச்சுய்யா’

'சார்.. ..'

‘அதுதான்.. அந்த first பாட்டு..! போய்டுச்சுய்யா..’

‘சார் .. எந்த Scene?’

‘யோவ்..! அதான் உன் படம் சொல்லிடுச்சேய்யா..! எந்தெந்தப் பாட்டு எங்கெங்க வரணும்னு’

‘அப்டியா சார்?’

‘ரொம்ப நல்லா வந்திருக்குதுய்யா.. கேளு..’ என்றவர், பாடத் துவங்குகிறார்.. ‘தன்னனன தான தான தான நான நா…. (தென்றல் வந்து தீண்டும்போது)’. அவர் போட்டிருந்த டியூன் எனக்குப் பிடிக்கவில்லை.

‘என்னய்யா? என்னய்யா யோசிக்கிற? கேளு..!’ என்றவர் மறுபடி ‘தன்னனன’ பாடத் துவங்கினார்.

அப்போதான் தெரிகிறது. நான் எவ்வளவு பெரிய ஞானசூன்யம் என்பது. ’நல்லாயிருக்குது என்று சொன்னால் எது நல்லாயிருக்குது என்று கேட்பார். நல்லாயில்லை என்று சொன்னால் என்னய்யா நல்லாயில்ல என்பாரே’ என்ற யோசனையுடன்..

‘இல்ல சார்..! இதற்கு முன்னால் வரும் பாடலில் காட்சிகள் கொஞ்சம் வேகம் குறைந்ததாக இருக்கும். இது கொஞ்சம் வேகமான பாட்டா இருந்தா நல்லா இருக்கும்.’

‘அதுதான்யா இது..! நல்லா வரும்யா..!’

’சார்..! கொஞ்சம் Tempo-வாவது ஏத்த முடியுமா?’

............ என் மேல் உள்ள அன்பா அல்லது ரீரெக்கார்டிங்கின்போது என்னுடைய நடிப்பைப் பார்த்துவிட்டு என் மேல் ஏற்பட்ட நல்ல ஒரு உணர்வா எதுவென்று தெரியவில்லை. வேறு எந்த மியூசிக் டைரக்டரிடம் நான் இதைச் சொல்லியிருந்தாலும் என்னை அடித்து ‘போடா வெளியே’ என்று துரத்தியிருப்பார்கள். ஒரு ஞானியிடம் சென்று ஒரு ஞானசூன்யம் சொல்கிறது ‘கொஞ்சம் Tempo ஏத்துங்க’..!

அவர் சிரித்தார். எனக்கு வேலை இருக்கிறதா என்று கேட்டு பின்னர் நாலு மணிக்கு வரச்சொன்னார்.

நான் சென்றவுடன் என்னுடைய Assistant Directors எல்லாம் டியூன் எப்படி இருந்தது என்று கேட்டார்கள். 'ஏதோ இருந்தது' என்று சொன்னேன். அதற்கு அவர்கள் ‘அவர் அப்படித்தான் சார் போடுவார். நாமதான் சார் நாலஞ்சு டியூன் போடச் சொல்லிக் கேட்டு வாங்கணும்’ என்றார்கள். நான் அதற்கு, ‘விடுங்கய்யா.. நாலு மணிக்கு வரச்சொல்லியிருக்கிறார். நான் Tempoவை கூட்டச்சொல்லியிருக்கிறேன்” என்றேன்.

நாலு மணிக்குச் சென்றேன். ரெக்கார்டிங் ஸ்டுடியோ ஒரு கல்யாண மண்டபம் போன்று இருந்தது. பலவிதமான வாத்தியக்கருவிகளின் பலவிதமான சப்தங்கள்..! பரவாயில்லை. நம் பாட்டுக்கு இவ்வளவு பேர் வேலை செய்கிறார்கள் என்று ஒரு சந்தோஷம். சரியாய் நாலரை மணிக்கு சொல்கிறார்…

’…புரு….!’ (இம்முறை கொஞ்சம் சத்தமாக). சரி ஒரு மானிட்டர் பார்க்கலாம்’

எங்கும் அமைதி…!

1…..! 1..2..3..4..

‘தானத் தம்தம் தானத் தம்தம் தானத் தம்தம் தானத் தன்னானா..’ பாடலின் கோரஸ் துவங்குகிறது.

'....... ...... ....'

'....... ...... ....'

I cried..... நான் அழுதேன். பக்கத்தில் அவர் முழங்கால்கள் இருந்தன. அவற்றைப் பற்றிக்கொண்டு.. ‘சார்..! தயவுசெய்து என்னை மன்னிச்சுடுங்க சார். நான் தெரியாம எதோ சொல்லிட்டேன்’ என்றேன்.

‘இருய்யா..! முழுசாக் கேளுய்யா’ என்றார்.


அப்படி உருவானதுதான் ‘தென்றல் வந்து தீண்டும்போது’ பாடல். எனக்கு ஆச்சரியமான விஷயம் என்னவென்றால் எப்படி ஒரு மனிதன் சரளமாக, ஒரு கவிஞன் கோபத்தில், காதலில் அல்லது வீரத்தில் எழுதுவது போல இவ்வளவு வேகத்தில் இசையை எழுதமுடியும் என்பதுதான் (கைகளால் காற்றில் வேகவேகமாக எழுதிக்காட்டுகிறார்).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8qs_TpAWpc



இளையராஜாவின் வெற்றிக்கு மற்றொரு காரணம் ‘கற்றல்’. எப்போதும் கற்றுக்கொண்டே இருக்கிறார். அவதாரம் திரைப்படத்தின் ஒரு மூன்று காட்சிகளை..

‘யோவ்..! இந்த மூணு சீன் ரொம்ப திராபையா இருக்கேய்யா’ என்றார்.

‘இல்ல சார்..! அவன் திரும்பத் திரும்ப எப்படியாவது என்னைக் கூத்துக்குழுவில் சேர்த்துக்கொள்ளுங்கள் என்று கெஞ்சுகின்றான். அதை விளக்குவதற்காகத்தான் அந்த மூணு சீனையும் வைத்திருக்கிறேன். அது எனக்கு ரொம்ப தேவை சார்’ என்றேன்.

‘உனக்குத் தேவைய்யா..! ஆனால் பார்க்கிறவனுக்கு Interesting-ஆக இருக்கணும் இல்லையா?’ நீ அரை நாளில் ஷூட் பண்ணுவது போல இந்த இடத்தில் ஒரு பாட்டு போட்டுக்கொடுத்துவிடுகிறேன்’ என்றார். அந்தப் பாடல்தான் ‘அரிதாரத்தப் பூசிக்கொள்ள ஆசை’. அதாவது ஒரு ஏழரை நிமிஷத்து வறட்சியான மூன்று காட்சிகளை மிக அழகாகக் கொண்டுவந்து விட்டார். அவதாரம் படத்தின் ஒவ்வொரு பாட்டும் முத்தான பாடல்கள். அந்த ஐந்து பாடல்களும் இரண்டரை நாட்களில் பதிவு செய்யப்பட்டவை. இன்றைக்கு மாதங்கள் ஆகின்றன. சிலருக்கு வருடங்கள் ஆகின்றன.

போன வருடம் ஒரு படப்பிடிப்பிற்காக சென்னையில் இருந்து சிதம்பரத்திற்கு ரோடு வழியாகச் செல்லவேண்டியிருந்தது. அது ஒரு விழாக்காலம் என்று நினைக்கிறேன். ஒவ்வொரு ஊரைக் கடக்கும்போதும் டீ கடைகளிலும், கோவில் விழாக்களிலும் பாடல்கள் ஒலித்துக்கொண்டு இருந்தன. சரி.. மக்கள் யாருடைய பாடல்களை கேட்கிறார்கள் என்று ஒரு கணக்கெடுக்கலாம் என்று நினைத்தேன். மேடைக்காக மிகைப்படுத்திச் சொல்லவில்லை. நான் கேட்டதில் ஏழு எம்.எஸ்.வி. பாடல்கள், மூன்று ஏ. ஆர். ரகுமான் பாடல்கள், இருபத்தெட்டு இளையராஜா பாடல்கள். தமிழ் சமூகம் இளையராஜாவின் பாடல்களுடன் வாழ்ந்துகொண்டிருக்கிறது."

இசை என்பது வியாபாரம் மட்டுமே அல்ல. இந்தியா கிராமங்களில் வாழ்கிறது என்று காந்திஜி கூறினார். கிராமங்களில் வாழும் மனிதர்களின் மனதில் இன்னும் இளையராஜா பாடல்கள்தான் கேட்டுக்கொண்டிருக்கின்றன. இப்படி ஒரு விழா இளையராஜாவுக்கு மிகச் சிறியது. ஆனால் எங்கள் மனது பெரியது” என்றார்

Russellhaj
1st November 2014, 04:50 AM
தளபதி பட பின்னணியிசை மற்றும் பாடல்களை ஒலிப்பதிவு செய்வதற்காக ராஜாவுடன் மும்பாய் செல்லும் இசைக்கலைஞர்கள்.



https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/1558536_10205510866955569_944351449364369760_n.jpg ?oh=9cafbc1debb0a505314c36984341e29a&oe=54E191EE

rajsekar
2nd November 2014, 10:10 PM
Kamalhasan's interview in "The Hindu" - turns 60 on Nov. 7

A progressive film like Aval Appadithan was made in 1978. Do you believe we have grown since then?

We have regressed really. I’m not sure what is causing this decline. It’s perhaps the mass influx of untrained people into the industry because of the success of filmmakers like Bharathiraja and Ilaiyaraaja. Aval Appadithan was a guerilla attack on the industry by insiders like me. It slipped through their fingers, so to speak. With all the attention that films get these days, I doubt we can get away with such a film any more.

People think Bharathiraja and Ilaiyaraaja just came from their villages and became legends here. They don’t know the training and hard work they had to put in to get where they are today. When we were making Raja Paarvai, Ilaiyaraaja would often request to be excused in the evening. I initially thought he probably wanted some sleep. Later, I came to know that he was taking classes in classical music in the evenings. It is such dedication to learning that gets you to the top.

rsubras
3rd November 2014, 02:30 PM
[not sure if these (the information in this piece) were shared already............this are excerpts from Gangai Amaran's conversation with Thuglaq readers ]

Q1: ஒரு நல்ல இசை எங்களுக்குக் கிடைப்பதற்குக் காரணம் - இசையமைப்பாளரின் திறமையா, அனுபவமா, பயிற்சியா?

கங்கை அமரன் : அந்தந்த நேரத்தில் இசையமைப்பாளரின் மூடுக்கு என்ன வருகிறதோ, அதுதான் இசை. அது ரசிகர்களின் மூடுக்கும் ஒத்துப் போய் விட்டால், அது நல்ல இசையாகி விடுகிறது. ‘நாயகன்’ படத்திற்காக கம்போஸிங்கில் ‘தென்பாண்டி சீமையிலே...’ என்ற சோகப் பாடலுக்குப் பதிலாக ‘நிலா அது வானத்து மேலே...’ என்ற பாடலின் ட்யூன்தான் முதலில் ஸ்லோவாகப் போடப்பட்டது. திடீரென்று இளையராஜா ‘தென்பாண்டிச் சீமையிலே’ ட்யூனை வாசித்துக் காட்டவும், அது எல்லோருக்கும் பிடித்துப் போனது. உடனே ‘நிலா அது வானத்து மேலே’ ட்யூனை ஃபாஸ்ட் பீட்டிற்கு மாற்றி, அதைக் குத்துப் பாட்டாக ஆக்கி விட்டார் ராஜா. இரண்டுமே சூப்பர் ஹிட்! ‘பாடல்கள் ஒரு கோடி.... எதுவும் புதிதில்லை..’

Q2: உங்களது மௌன கீதங்கள், வாழ்வே மாயம் உட்படப் பல படங்களின் பாடல்களைப் பலர் ‘இளையராஜாவின் பாடல்கள்’ என்று கூறும்போதும், ‘இளையராஜா ஹிட்ஸ்’ சி.டி.க்களில் நீங்கள் இசையமைத்த பாடல்களைச் சேர்த்து விடும்போதும் உங்களுக்கு எப்படியிருக்கும்?

கங்கை அமரன் : மற்றவர்கள் சொல்வது இருக்கட்டும். ஒருமுறை நானும், இளையராஜாவும் கம்போஸிங்கில் இருந்தபோது வெளியேயிருந்து ‘நீதானா நிசந்தானா... நிக்க வச்சு நிக்க வச்சுப் பார்க்கிறே’ என்ற பாடல் ஒலித்தது. உடனே இளையராஜா ‘இந்தப் பாட்டை எந்தப் படத்துக்குடா போட்டேன்?’ என்று கேட்டார். ‘அது நீ போட்ட பாட்டில்லை. நான் போட்ட பாட்டு’ன்னேன். (சிரிப்பு). அவரை மாதிரி நான் இசையமைச்சிடுவேன். ஆனால், ஆர்கஸ்ட்ரேஷன் அவர் மாதிரி என்னால் பண்ண முடியாது. இரண்டு பேரின் இசையமைப்பும் ஒரே மாதிரி தெரிஞ்சாலும், ஆர்கஸ்ட்ரேஷனைக் கவனிச்சால் வித்தியாசம் கண்டுபிடிச்சிடலாம்.

Q3: மற்றவர்கள் இயக்கிய 187 படங்களுக்கு இசையமைத்த நீங்கள், உங்கள் படங்களுக்கு மட்டும் இளையராஜாவை இசையமைப்பாளராக ஃபிக்ஸ் பண்ணிக் கொண்டது என்ன நியாயம்?

கங்கை அமரன் மற்ற இயக்குனர்கள், தயாரிப்பாளர்கள் இளையராஜாவை அணுகிச் சம்மதிக்க வைப்பது கடினம். ராஜா அப்போது அவ்வளவு பிஸியாக இருந்தார். ஆனால், நான் பக்கத்திலேயே இருக்கிறவன் என்பதால், எனக்கு அது ஈஸி. இளையராஜாவுக்கு அப்போது மார்க்கெட் உச்சத்தில் இருந்தது. ராஜாவின் இசையிருந்தாலே படங்கள் விற்றுப் போகும் என்கிற அளவுக்குச் செல்வாக்கு நிலவியதால், என்னை இயக்குனராகப் போடும் தயாரிப்பாளர்களுக்கு உதவும் வகையில், நான் இளையராஜாவின் இசையைப் பயன்படுத்திக் கொண்டேன். என் இசை எப்போதும் இளையராஜாவுக்குக் கீழேதானே ஸார்? அவர் இசையைப் பெறும் வாய்ப்பு இருக்கும்போது அதை நான் ஏன் விட வேண்டும்...?


Q4: ‘மௌன கீதங்கள்’ படத்தின் டைட்டிலில் ‘இசை - கங்கை அமரன்’ என்று கார்டு போடும்போது, இளையராஜாவின் நோட்ஸ்களை நீங்கள் திருடித் திருடி நோட்ஸ் எழுதுவது போன்ற கார்ட்டூனைப் போட எப்படி ஒத்துக் கொண்டீர்கள்?

கங்கை அமரன் : அது காமெடிக்காக பாக்யராஜ் செய்தது. அந்த நேரம், இளையராஜா ஸ்வரங்கள் எல்லாம் எழுதி வைக்கும் ஒரு நோட்டு, ரிக்கார்டிங் தியேட்டரில் தொலைந்து போனது. அது நாளிதழ்களில் செய்தியாகவும் வெளியாகி விட்டது. அந்த நேரம் மௌன கீதங்கள் படத்திற்கு, காமெடியான கார்ட்டூன் டைட்டில் கார்டுகளை பாக்யராஜ் ரெடி செய்து கொண்டிருந்தார். இந்தச் செய்தியைப் பார்த்ததும், ‘பாட்டெல்லாம் நம்ம படத்தில் நல்லா வந்திருக்குது. அந்த நோட்டு இவர் கிட்டதான் இருக்குமோ?’ என்று காமெடி செய்தபடி, அப்படி ஒரு டைட்டில் கார்டை வைத்தார் பாக்யராஜ். என் ஒப்புதலோடுதான் அந்தக் கார்ட்டூன் போடப்பட்டது. அதுதான் என் முதல் படம் என்றால், கொஞ்சம் யோசித்திருப்பேன். அதற்கு முன்னாடியே 15 படங்களுக்கு இசையமைத்து, என்னை ஓரளவு நிலை நிறுத்திக் கொண்டதால், அந்தக் கார்ட்டூனைப் பெரிதாக எடுத்துக் கொள்ளவில்லை. பல பேர் என்னை இசையமைக்க அழைத்ததன் காரணமே, இவன்கிட்டே இளையராஜாவின் நோட்ஸ் நிறைய இருக்கும் என்ற நம்பிக்கைதான் என்பது எனக்கும் தெரியும்

rajsekar
6th November 2014, 10:59 PM
Yuvan marrying for third time and Maestro not happy with this development. Thank God, that Maestro was so laser focused and committed to his work and creation of world class music at Yuvan's age. If only Yuvan could adopt a little bit of discipline like his father. Yuvan's music is sub-par as compared to his dad. At Yuvan's age, Raaja was trailblazing in his career and churning out super duper hits. Watch Raaja (at Yuvan's current age) receiving the award for AVM's Sakalakala Vallavan's silver jubilee celebration (Raaja comes in at 1:20). We are truly blessed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTqd0OrnZfE&list=TLMW9r_qzCtz0

sivasub
7th November 2014, 05:12 PM
http://www.indiaglitz.com/shamitabh-will-be-ilayarajas-best-balki-tamil-news-117983

looking forward for the movie and its music.... in the reverse order

rajaramsgi
8th November 2014, 01:05 AM
Got this message circulated to me through my our alumini links.

MAESTRO'S FORTHCOMING NON-FILM MUSIC:
SWAPPNAM - Classical Bharatanatyam Dance Theatre Production by Mrs.Krithika Subramanian (Bharatanatyam Dancer and Disciple of Smt.Sudharani Raghupathy)>
Message from Mrs.Krithika Subramanian about SWAPPNAM:
"Hello, We are working hard to make Swappnam a memorable concert experience for all Ilayaraja fans. The shows will be on Dec 28th premier, Dec 31st second show and Jan 2nd third show. Soon we will be publicizing the event and post it on FB as well. The promos are getting ready. Please attend and enjoy his first ever full length classical production for dance. It will be a great experience. We want the fans to pack the halls and show that Maestro's music rules the world . My husband produced the music as he is a great fan .
The photo uploaded here was taken during the composing of SWAPPNAM.
Let us make the show a great success. Of course our primary goal is to make sure the Audio CD is released at the earliest.



https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/s480x480/1926868_429736387190558_7251230910846531866_n.jpg? oh=7ebb6c1cc62dd539a5919b225b469844&oe=54E101B4&__gda__=1423743645_206e340dd199ed22b9a0e2a568a5fb2 7 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=429736387190558&set=a.115693818594818.23638.100004626001675&type=1)

K
9th November 2014, 06:14 AM
http://cinema.dinamalar.com/tamil-news/23703/cinema/Kollywood/Ilayarajas-new-policy.htm
ஆயிரம் படங்களுக்கு மேல் இசையமைத்து விட்டார் இளையராஜா. மேலும், இப்போதும் தென்னிந்திய படங்கள் மட்டுமின்றி இந்திப்படங்களுக்கும் பிசியாக இசையமைத்துக் கொண்டிருக்கிறார்.அந்த வகையில் தமிழில் மட்டும் ராஜ ராஜனின் போர்வாள், தாரை தப்பட்டை, போர்க்களத்தில் ஒரு பூ, மூங்கில் காடு, கிடா பூசாரி மகுடி. டூரிங் டாக்கீஸ் மற்றும் மகேந்திரனின் படம் உள்பட 10 படங்களுக்கு இசையமைத்துக் கொண்டிருக்கிறார். தவிர, அமிதாப்பச்சன், தனுஷ் நடிக்கும் ஷமிதாப் மற்றும் சில கன்னட, தெலுங்கு படங்கள் என இசையமைத்துக் கொண்டிருக்கிறார்.

இந்த நிலையில், முன்பு மாதிரி எந்த படமாக இருந்தாலும், கதையை கேட்டதுமே அவர் இசையமைக்க சம்மதம் சொல்வதில்லையாம். அவர்கள் படமாக்கிய வசன காட்சிகளை திரையில் போட்டு பார்த்த பின்னரே அந்த படங்களுக்கு இசையமைப்பதா? வேண்டாமா? என்பதை முடிவெடுக்கிறாராம். இதற்கு காரணம் சில புதுமுக டைரக்டர்களின் படங்களுக்கு இசையமைத்தபோது அதன் காட்சிகள் சரியாக படமாக்கப்படவில்லையாம்.


முக்கியாக, அவருக்கு பின்னணி இசையமைக்க போதுமான இடம் கொடுக்காத அளவுக்கு காட்சிகளில் வசனங்கள் பேசப்பட்டிருந்ததாம். அதெல்லாம் புதுமுக டைரக்டர்களின் படங்களாம். அதனால் இப்போது சில முன்னணி டைரக்டர்களை தவிர, புதியவர்களாக இருந்தால், அவர்களிடம் முதலில் வசன காட்சிகளை படமாக்கி விட்டு வாருங்கள். அதைப்பார்த்து விட்டுத்தான் உங்கள் படங்களுக்கு இசையமைப்பது பற்றி என்னால் முடிவு சொல்ல முடியும் என்று கூறி விடுகிறாராம்.


இது சிலருக்கு அதிர்ச்சியாக இருந்தாலும், அவர் நன்றாக படமாக்க வேண்டும் என்பதற்காகத்தானே அப்படி சொல்கிறார் என்பதை புரிந்து கொள்ளும் இயக்குனர்கள் இளையராஜாவின் இந்த புதிய கொள்கையை வரவேற்றுள்ளனர்.

Russellhaj
9th November 2014, 04:17 PM
''பொருளுக்கு அலைந்திடும் பொருளற்ற வாழ்க்கையும் துரத்துதே'' - இளைய ராஜா

Russellhaj
9th November 2014, 04:19 PM
''பிட்சைப்பாத்திரம் ஏந்தி வந்தேன் ஐயனே,பிண்டம் எனும் எலும்போடு சதை நரம்புதிரமும் அடங்கிய- இளையராஜா circa 1996.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFIJEW59v8E

krish244
11th November 2014, 01:47 PM
Looks like IR has agreed to score music for an animated movie titled "Punyakoti". The movie is in Sanskrit. It seems the movie will be crowd funded/animated.

http://www.mid-day.com/articles/mumbai-diary-tuesday-tales/15756179

Project website:

http://www.punyakoti.com/

From project website:

"...The movie will also feature a unique musical experiment by the legendary Indian composer, Sri. Ilaiyaraaja."

thanks,

Krishnan

sudhakarg
11th November 2014, 08:08 PM
http://cinema.dinamalar.com/tamil-news/23703/cinema/Kollywood/Ilayarajas-new-policy.htm
இது சிலருக்கு அதிர்ச்சியாக இருந்தாலும், அவர் நன்றாக படமாக்க வேண்டும் என்பதற்காகத்தானே அப்படி சொல்கிறார் என்பதை புரிந்து கொள்ளும் இயக்குனர்கள் இளையராஜாவின் இந்த புதிய கொள்கையை வரவேற்றுள்ளனர்.

After seeing Megha, it was clear to me that Raja's approach has to change a bit in order for his music to reach a larger audience. Despite such wonderful songs in Megha - the film bombed in box office. This is contrary to the past where even if the songs were just hummable, films carrying Raja's banner would succeed!! Clearly Tamil Film world has moved on to something else!! :-(. A few things that disappointed me in Megha was that the picturisation was very ordinary - and in some cases like "Jeevane Jeevane" - the song was shredded into multiple pieces & was not even used fully. If such a high class musical like "Megha" could fail in the box office, I'm sure it calls for a changed approach. I hope for Raja's sake, his new approach works better.

K
11th November 2014, 10:47 PM
Raja sir Speaks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BEZGyZG3Vc

rsubras
13th November 2014, 04:22 PM
After seeing Megha, it was clear to me that Raja's approach has to change a bit in order for his music to reach a larger audience. Despite such wonderful songs in Megha - the film bombed in box office. This is contrary to the past where even if the songs were just hummable, films carrying Raja's banner would succeed!! Clearly Tamil Film world has moved on to something else!! :-(. A few things that disappointed me in Megha was that the picturisation was very ordinary - and in some cases like "Jeevane Jeevane" - the song was shredded into multiple pieces & was not even used fully. If such a high class musical like "Megha" could fail in the box office, I'm sure it calls for a changed approach. I hope for Raja's sake, his new approach works better.

Raja would have the record for composing for the maximum number of kuppai films and gave the movie some undeserved reputation with his soulful music......... infact namakku pidicha sila padangale have been rejected by Raja (recently he quoted about Mudhal Mariyaadhai movie and the fact that he did not like it)...........

mappi
14th November 2014, 08:27 PM
Sudhakarg,

Megha is a beautiful tale. The approach is what makes this film quite unique, and IR songs/BGM adds to the needed ambience and provokes the interest. The song in question "Jeevane Jeevane" occurs in 3 vital places. Firstly if you listen to the audio, the opening is jumbled as though its a part of a piece. Thats exactly where you hear it for the first time when he finds out that Megha is missing. Then the second occurence is riveting. It gives the audience a huge experience while watching it. 'Megha Romance' is not like 'boyish-girlish', but something true which the director established with IR musical. So during its second phase, it was really quite real. And finally, in the hospital, the revelation.

IR only can provide the 3 types of emotions - inquietude, feebleness & convalescence - in a single piece of music. The choice of instruments he takes does the magic and he renders exactly what you should hear to get provoked by the visuals. Karthik Rishi has not only convinced his devotion towards IR, but gave him a ground to play his excellence.

A box office sucess depends on various aspects and not just a gossip website report. So I will never be in a position to pronounce/provide any financial trade details. But rest assured that 'Good movies will always Survive'. Megha is a good movie.

For the change you are talking about, I can't comment on it as its your fan-wish.
But I can tell you this : Where ever you go, which ever place you visit, what ever food you eat, you come home running for the mother's meal.

IR's music is THE Mother's Meal. It can't change neither in its presentation, color, flavour, taste more importantly the love & passion.
'So Lovely' as it is.

rajsekar
17th November 2014, 10:07 PM
"Clearly Tamil Film world has moved on to something else!!" Sudharkarg & Mappi have correctly summed up the current state of affairs in Tamil film. Tamil film industry like other regional languages including Hindi is ruled by children of yesteryear stars. It's quite easy for these kids to enter the field unlike the troubles their parents had. Mediocrity is the buzzword. Everything from songs, background score, cinematography, lyrics and direction is dictated by stars and what they like. Unfortunately few yesteryear artists don't seem to retire even after delivering mega flops (I am shocked after listening to the latest audio launch of a big star). In these circumstances, our Maestro is following his own path and decides to choose his projects based on its merits. That's the way to go. Many so called mega stars whose crappy films got a big boost with Raaja's songs seem to have forgotten their early days.

rajsekar
19th November 2014, 09:14 PM
Director Arumugam (a.k.a Rudhraiya) passed away last week. Read Kamal's tribute to the director. His two memorable movies had great musical score by Raaja.

http://www.thehindu.com/features/cinema/rudhraiya-obituary-kamal-haasan-pays-homage-to-rudhraiya/article6615265.ece?homepage=true&theme=true

"Ilaiyaraaja was busy, and yet, we managed to arm-twist him into composing music. It was a great story, but my work in films such as Sagalakalavallavan thwarted our coming together again. The industry had also humbled me a bit after Raja Paarvai. He didn’t take kindly to my acting in Sagalakalavallavan. And I remember patiently trying to calm his outburst by explaining that we needed money to make good films, and the commercial films I had taken to acting in, were only a means to that end. In its place, he made Gramathu Athiyayam and I had a few disagreements with him over it."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5Rga99_ahU (great melody by Kamal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bZss9aXe54 (Jayachandran for a typical folk tune)

irir123
20th November 2014, 08:43 PM
methinks : Santosh Narayanan is a weird cross between IR and ARR !

some of his melodies are clearly stunning as well as simple - his use of the strings (maybe real maybe not) and orchestration components are quite unconventional.

SN is quite a find/talent!

PS: couldn't find a thread for SN - so posting here

rajsekar
20th November 2014, 09:08 PM
http://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/tamil-film-director-rudraiyaa-passes-away/article6613655.ece?ref=relatedNews

Aval Appadithan', espousing the idea of feminism, failed to make any impact in the box-office though the stars of the film included Kamal Hassan, Rajinikant, Sivachandran and Sripriya. Kamal Hassan sang 'Panneer Pushpangale', one of the finest film songs, in the music of Ilayaraja. Though a trailblazer and all the songs of his films were hits, Rudhraiya could not make a come back after the failure of 'Gramathu Athiyayam'.

Ilayaraja scored music for both 'Aval Appadithan' and 'Gramathu Athiyayam' and the zenith of his creativity manifested in all the songs that continue to haunt the music lovers even after over three decades. 'Uravuagal Thodarkathi', 'Panneer Pushpangale' and 'Vaazhkai Odam Chella' in 'Aval Appadithan' are known for their melody and philosophical touch.

In 'Gramathu Athiyayam', Kamal Hassan’s elder brother Chandrahasan played a role and acted for the song 'Vaadatha Rosapoo'. The other songs are 'Ootha Kaathu Veesaiyile', 'Aathu Metule' and 'Poove Ithu Poojai Kalaime'. A feel of rustic charm merging with modern music equipments make the tunes memorable.

thumburu
20th November 2014, 10:30 PM
sad to note directors like BM , Rudhraiyya who were staunch IR loyalists, who could extract the best out of IR , are no more . Cruel ageing !!

Russellhaj
23rd November 2014, 08:22 AM
My GOD !! My thalaivan !! My isaignani !! My music !! My inspiration !! My soul !! My heart beat !! MY ILAYARAJA:)

- Actor Dhanush ‏@dhanushkraj

இது PC ஸ்ரீராம் எடுத்த போட்டோ. தனுஷோட ஷமிதாப் படத்துக்கு PC காமிரா, ராஜா இசை.




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3ELl6WCAAADNLp.jpg:large

sudhakarg
24th November 2014, 02:15 AM
IR's music is THE Mother's Meal. It can't change neither in its presentation, color, flavour, taste more importantly the love & passion.
'So Lovely' as it is.

Agree mappi. For me, IR's music is everything. But it does pain when I see people prefer something other than IR's musical feasts :-(

Russellhaj
25th November 2014, 08:51 AM
#DIVINE !!



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3BYecfCIAAi7He.png:large

Russellhaj
25th November 2014, 08:52 AM
Brilliance !!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3BXU-8CIAAvp6A.png:large

K
25th November 2014, 09:20 PM
My GOD !! My thalaivan !! My isaignani !! My music !! My inspiration !! My soul !! My heart beat !! MY ILAYARAJA:)

- Actor Dhanush ‏@dhanushkraj

இது PC ஸ்ரீராம் எடுத்த போட்டோ. தனுஷோட ஷமிதாப் படத்துக்கு PC காமிரா, ராஜா இசை.




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3ELl6WCAAADNLp.jpg:large

Malabar Gold Ad. @ 14 Sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1eITdWSd2Y

Russellhaj
25th November 2014, 09:46 PM
The one I posted with "Divine " is for Malabar Gold photographed by P.C. Sri ram. But the one I posted first as Dhanush said was real and a new one and photographed by the same P.C sriram. That came from Dhanush twitter. That's the reason I also included his twitter Id :). If you want you can go and check. :)

Russellhaj
25th November 2014, 11:15 PM
கலக்கிட்டீங்க தனுஷ்.. இளையராஜாவை இந்தளவுக்கு இதுவரை எவரும் புகழேலைப்பா..


ஒவ்வொரு ரசிகருக்கும், ஒவ்வொரு நடிகருக்கும் மிகவும் அபிமான இசையமைப்பாளர்கள் என யாரையாவது ஒருவரைத்தான் குறிப்பிடுவார்கள்.
சராசரி ரசிகரைப் போல சில நடிகர்களும் அவர்களது மனம் கவர்ந்த இசையைமப்பாளரைப் பற்றிக் குறிப்பிடுவது ஆச்சரியமான ஒன்றுதான். அப்படித்தான் இசையமைப்பாளர் இளையராஜாவைப் பற்றி நடிகர் தனுஷ் குறிப்பிட்டுள்ளார்.

தனுஷ் நடிக்கும் ஷமிதாப் ஹிந்திப் படத்திற்கு தற்போது இளையராஜா இசையமைக்க ஆரம்பித்திருக்கிறார். பல பேட்டிகளில் தனுஷ் அவருடைய மனம் கவர்ந்த இசையமைப்பாளர் இளையராஜாதான் எனக் குறிப்பிட்டிருக்கிறார். தனுஷின் ஆரம்ப காலப் படங்களில் இளையராஜாவின் இளைய மகன் யுவன்ஷங்கர் ராஜாவின் இசையில் உருவான பாடல்கள் தனுஷை ரசிகர்களிடம் கொண்டு போய்ச் சேர்த்தது. தனுஷின் அப்பா கஸ்தூரி ராஜா இசையமைத்த பல படங்களுக்கு இளையராஜாவின் பாடல்கள் படம் வெற்றி பெற முக்கிய காரணமாக இருந்த்து என்பதும் குறிப்பிடத்தக்கது.

அதே சமயம், சமீப காலத்தில் தனுஷ், அவர் நடிக்கும் படங்கள், தயாரிக்கும் படங்கள் ஆகியவற்றில் அனிருத்தை மட்டும்தான் இசையமைப்பாளராக ஒப்பந்தம் செய்து வருகிறார். யுவன்ஷங்கர் ராஜாவை சுத்தமாகவே மறந்து விட்டார் என்றுதான் சொல்ல வேண்டும்.

rajaramsgi
27th November 2014, 08:04 PM
Yuvan is working with Barathiraaasaaa for the movie OM.

படத்துக்கு யுவன் மியூசிக் பண்றான். பார்க்கும்போதெல்லாம், 'அங்கிள், உங்க படம் எப்போ மியூசிக் பண்றது?’னு கேட்டுட்டே இருப்பான். 'இருடா, உங்க அப்பன்கிட்ட இன்னும் சில ஜோலி இருக்கு. முடிச்சுட்டு வரேன்’னு சொல்லிட்டே இருந்தேன். இப்பத்தான் நேரம் வந்திருக்கு. கூப்பிட்டேன். 'ஆரம்பிச்சுடலாம் அங்கிள்’னு உடனே வந்துட்டான்!''

This is from Barathiraja interview in Anandha Vikatan, this week's issue.

rajsekar
28th November 2014, 10:26 PM
I always like Baradwaj Rangan's (Hindu's film critic) reviews and elaborate dissection of technical aspects of the movie (songs, background score, cinematography, lyrics). BTW, Rangan is an ardent fan of Ilayaraaja. Rangan wrote two reviews on Friday in his blog post. I would encourage our members to read an elaborate blog on Director Rudraiya and his multiple attempts to direct many movies. It's unfortunate to read about SP Muthuraman's advise to Kamalhaasan to focus only on commercial films. The second review is about "Kaaviyathalaivan" movie. What a bad choice!!!! It's a musical subject with wrong players. I am surprised how directors go about selecting their cast and technical artists.

https://baradwajrangan.wordpress.com/

venkkiram
29th November 2014, 09:00 AM
I always like Baradwaj Rangan's (Hindu's film critic) reviews and elaborate dissection of technical aspects of the movie (songs, background score, cinematography, lyrics). BTW, Rangan is an ardent fan of Ilayaraaja. Rangan wrote two reviews on Friday in his blog post. I would encourage our members to read an elaborate blog on Director Rudraiya and his multiple attempts to direct many movies. It's unfortunate to read about SP Muthuraman's advise to Kamalhaasan to focus only on commercial films. The second review is about "Kaaviyathalaivan" movie. What a bad choice!!!! It's a musical subject with wrong players. I am surprised how directors go about selecting their cast and technical artists.

https://baradwajrangan.wordpress.com/
If one follows regularly his blog and read the comments from core Raja fans, Baradwaj Rangan stand would be clearly understood on where he stands on appreciating Raja's genius in music. IMO, BRangan gives more space for ARR than Raja in his blog. I read his openly statement 'I am an ardent fan of Ilaiyaraja' whenever Raja's fans criticized his shallowness.

ArulprakasH
3rd December 2014, 02:54 PM
சென்ற வாரம் கார்மேகம் சூழ்ந்த ஒரு மாலை நேரம். மயில் ஒன்று தோகை விரித்து ஆடும் அழகில் மயங்கி நின்றிருந்த போது சிறிது தூரத்தில் வெண்ணிற உடையில் ஒருவரும் அதை ரசித்து கொண்டிருந்தார். அவர் திரும்பியிருந்ததால் முகம் தெரியவில்லை. இளையராஜாவாக இருக்குமோ என்று மனதில் நினைத்த கணம் அவரும் திரும்பவே, இசை சுவாமிகளின் தரிசனம்! அவரை தொந்தரவு செய்ய மனமில்லாமல் தயங்கி நின்ற வேளையில் எனது மனைவி அருகில் சென்று உரையாட ஆரம்பித்துவிட்டார். நானும் அருகில் சென்று கைகூப்பி வணங்கினேன். எனக்கு பேச நா எழவில்லை. அவருடன் நிழற்படம் எடுத்துவிட்டு சிரமத்திற்கு மன்னிப்புக்கோரியதும், இதிலென்ன என்றார் அன்பான புன்முறுவலுடன். நன்றி கூறி விடைபெற்று அங்கிருந்து நகர்ந்தோம். திருவண்ணாமலை ரமணர் ஆசிரமத்தில் இசையின் தரிசனம் கிடைத்தது பெரும்பாக்கியம் தான்.

krish244
4th December 2014, 12:13 PM
"SIES to honour Ilayaraja":

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SIES-to-honour-Ilayaraja-and-Ram-Naik/articleshow/45364105.cms

thanks,

Krishnan

sivasub
6th December 2014, 07:27 AM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/tv/A-special-tribute-to-Ilaiyaraaja/articleshow/45317427.cms

A special tribute to Ilaiyaraaja from Vijay TV

Russellhaj
8th December 2014, 08:49 AM
28 Dec: Raja's next private album "Swappnam" releases (Composed for a Bharathanattiyam Dance Drama)

sivasub
9th December 2014, 08:04 AM
http://www.bangaloremirror.com/entertainment/south-masala/Ilayaraja-son-to-perform/articleshow/45418693.cms

venkkiram
17th December 2014, 07:58 AM
திரு கோபால் இன்னொரு திரியில் இசைக்கலைஞர் கோவர்தன் பற்றி எழுதும்போது இப்படியும் எழுதுகிறார்.


பிறகு தனக்கு உதவியாக இருந்த இளையராஜாவிற்கு உதவியாகவும் இருந்து, இளைய ராஜாவின் வழக்க படியே அவரால் மிகவும் அவமான படுத்த பட்டு விலாசமிழந்தார்.

இதில் உண்மை எத்தனை சதவிகிதம்? தெரிந்தவர்கள் தெளியவைக்கவும்.

Gopal.s
18th December 2014, 09:43 AM
தொடர்ந்து ராஜாவை குறை சொல்லியே எழுதி வரும் அண்ணன் கோபாலை மிகவும் வன்மையாக கண்டிப்பதுடன் அவருக்கு எதிராக வரும் 25 தேதி வியட்நாமில் இருக்கும் மீகாங் நதி கரையில் கருப்பு கோடி ஆர்ப்பாட்டமும் நடத்தப்படும். இனிமேலும் தொடர்ந்து தவறாக எழுதினால் விளைவுகள் மிகவும் மோசமாக இருக்கும் எனபதை உறுதியாகவும் இறுதியாகவும் சொல்லி கொள்ள விரும்புகிறோம். தைரியம் இருந்தால் "லிங்கா" படத்தை விமர்சித்து ஒரு பதிவு போடவும் ( லிங்கா படத்துக்கு தப்பாக விமர்சனம் செய்பவர்களை போலீஸ் அர்ரெஸ்ட் பண்ணுதாம்.).:):):)

நேற்றுதான் (5/12/2014)நேரம் கிடைத்து காவியத் தலைவன் பார்த்தேன். ஒரு intense period drama என்ற வகையில் மிக ரசனைக்குரியது.நடிகர்கள் பங்களிப்பு பாராட்டுக்குரியது. ஜெய மோகன்- வசந்த பாலன் கூட்டணியில் இன்னுமோர் நல்ல படம்.

இருங்கள் ,இருங்கள் . நான் சொல்ல வந்ததே வேறு.

இத்தனை பண்ணியவர்கள் இதயத்தை கோட் ஸ்டாண்டில் வைத்து techno -music பண்ணி கொண்டிருக்கும் திலிப் என்கிற ரகுமான் என்ற robot இடமா அதனை ஒப்படைப்பது? கே.வீ.மகாதேவன் போன்ற மேதைகள் உயிரோடு இல்லையென்றாலும், பழமைக்கும் புதுமைக்கும் பாலமாக இதய சுத்தியுடன் , படத்தில் ஆன்மா அறிந்து இசையமைக்கும் இளைய ராஜாவை எப்படி மறந்தார்கள்? இளைய ராஜாவை வைத்து, பழைய கால இசை கருவிகளையே உபயோகித்தோ,அல்லது ஹே ராம் போல புதுமையுடன் ஜீவன் கெடாமலும் பண்ணியிருக்கலாமே? இந்த படம் பார்க்கும் மனநிலையுடன் வரும் பண்பட்ட ரசிகர்கள், ரகுமானின் கன்றாவி இசை கேட்கவா வருவார்கள்?

இவரின் மிக பெரிய ரசிகன் என்ற விதத்தில் ,இவர் சமீப பத்து வருடங்களாக என்னை ரொம்பவே சோதிக்கிறார் ரகுமான். இப்படி involvement இல்லாமல், ஏனோதானோ பின்னணி இசை, பாடல்கள் நான் கேட்டதே இல்லை. இந்த படத்தை இசையே இல்லாமல் எடுத்திருந்தால் கூட ,இதை விட சிறந்த அனுபவத்தை கொடுத்திருக்கும். இளைய ராஜாவின் ஆத்மார்த்த இசை, அவதாரம் அளவிற்கு படத்தை கொண்டு சென்றிருக்கும். அருமையான ஒரு படத்தை ,ஆத்மார்த்தமாக ரசிக்கும் அனுபவத்தை கெடுத்த ரகுமானை, வசந்தபாலன்,பாலா,செல்வராகவன்,மிஸ்கின் போன்ற நல்ல இயக்குனர்கள் நாடாமல் இருப்பது நல்லது.

venkkiram
18th December 2014, 11:18 AM
Twitter:

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rsubras
18th December 2014, 04:37 PM
நேற்றுதான் (5/12/2014)நேரம் கிடைத்து காவியத் தலைவன் பார்த்தேன். ஒரு intense period drama என்ற வகையில் மிக ரசனைக்குரியது.நடிகர்கள் பங்களிப்பு பாராட்டுக்குரியது. ஜெய மோகன்- வசந்த பாலன் கூட்டணியில் இன்னுமோர் நல்ல படம்.

இருங்கள் ,இருங்கள் . நான் சொல்ல வந்ததே வேறு.

இத்தனை பண்ணியவர்கள் இதயத்தை கோட் ஸ்டாண்டில் வைத்து techno -music பண்ணி கொண்டிருக்கும் திலிப் என்கிற ரகுமான் என்ற robot இடமா அதனை ஒப்படைப்பது? கே.வீ.மகாதேவன் போன்ற மேதைகள் உயிரோடு இல்லையென்றாலும், பழமைக்கும் புதுமைக்கும் பாலமாக இதய சுத்தியுடன் , படத்தில் ஆன்மா அறிந்து இசையமைக்கும் இளைய ராஜாவை எப்படி மறந்தார்கள்? இளைய ராஜாவை வைத்து, பழைய கால இசை கருவிகளையே உபயோகித்தோ,அல்லது ஹே ராம் போல புதுமையுடன் ஜீவன் கெடாமலும் பண்ணியிருக்கலாமே? இந்த படம் பார்க்கும் மனநிலையுடன் வரும் பண்பட்ட ரசிகர்கள், ரகுமானின் கன்றாவி இசை கேட்கவா வருவார்கள்?

இவரின் மிக பெரிய ரசிகன் என்ற விதத்தில் ,இவர் சமீப பத்து வருடங்களாக என்னை ரொம்பவே சோதிக்கிறார் ரகுமான். இப்படி involvement இல்லாமல், ஏனோதானோ பின்னணி இசை, பாடல்கள் நான் கேட்டதே இல்லை. இந்த படத்தை இசையே இல்லாமல் எடுத்திருந்தால் கூட ,இதை விட சிறந்த அனுபவத்தை கொடுத்திருக்கும். இளைய ராஜாவின் ஆத்மார்த்த இசை, அவதாரம் அளவிற்கு படத்தை கொண்டு சென்றிருக்கும். அருமையான ஒரு படத்தை ,ஆத்மார்த்தமாக ரசிக்கும் அனுபவத்தை கெடுத்த ரகுமானை, வசந்தபாலன்,பாலா,செல்வராகவன்,மிஸ்கின் போன்ற நல்ல இயக்குனர்கள் நாடாமல் இருப்பது நல்லது.

//digression in an IR thread..sorry others
Gopal Sir, your opinion is your own........ your expectation and taste is entirely different and thatz why you could not digest the different kind of treatment provided by Rahman.... I beg to differ on only one aspect.....and thatz an ironical one considering that you are a staunch fan of Sivaji sir...... Kaaviya thalaivan as a film disappointed me because having largely seen stage plays in Sivaji sir's movies the stage play scenes in this movie which is supposedly the backdrop of this movie looked kind of kiddish, does not appeal at all.... no wonder those scenes were limited...... although i knew i was expecting too much in the lines of NT kind of performance in the current generation movie...... at least it could have tried to match by 50%..... The songs were the only saving grace in many of our opinion... IR could have also scored beautifully showing the 1920s music in his own style while ARR has put forth his style...... In my opinion, your comments were not in good taste considering that you call yourself as his "fan". I only wonder if you call yourself as Rahman fan to add genuineness to your opinion

// end digression

Kimrep
18th December 2014, 07:58 PM
Am I the only one in this thread who gets irritated whenever Kamal talks about IR? If he really means all that he says he would have at least done one movie with IR in the last 10 yrs, there really could be no excuse! Based on what he says in interviews ("they pay me whatever I ask now!") and the fact that he produces his movies, he has full control of his projects, i.e the choice of music director. Let alone the masala movies, at least his gimmicky self indulgent serious movies would vastly benefit from IR's music. Vishvaroopam would've been palatable with IR... he claims to love his artform but seems to enjoy the movie making process (I spent 3 months learning kathak!) more than the end product.

I cant think of one Kamal-IR movie that had average score/songs, goofy comedies like singaravelan (that ended RV Udhayakumar's career) had kick-ass music! Recently watched "Aval appadithaan" after reading kamals writeup about director rudhraiah, incredible ahead of times movie with awesome performance by Rajini, Kamal and Sripriya with minimal and very effective IR BGM score, whatever happened to that actor kamal? Rajini playing a multi dimensional role was incredible, guess "super stardom" buried the actor Rajini... I digress.. the point is, amongst all these commercialized "artists" who claim to love their art, IR seems to be the one who really means it.

So Kamal, 10 yrs is a long F'ing time to not work with your "elder brother, younger friend and the hero of wonders"! Your "can turn my answer into a hit song" friend unfortunately has chosen a medium which needs a platform from people like you to create. Until you provide that platform, stop serenading him with poems! Just shut the F** up!

venkkiram
18th December 2014, 08:12 PM
Hi motte_dhaasan,

உங்க ஆதங்கத்தை புரிஞ்சிக்க முடியுது. உங்களுக்கு மட்டுமல்ல.. பலர் இதுபோல ஆதங்கப் பட்டிருப்பதை இணையத்தில் பார்க்கலாம். ஆனால் ராஜா கமல் படத்தில் இணையாமல் இருப்பதால் ஒன்னும் குறைந்துபோகவில்லை. நீங்க சொல்ற அந்த பத்து வருடங்களில் உளியின் ஓசை, நான் கடவுள், பழசி ராஜா, அழகர் மலை, நந்தலாலா, பொன்னர் சங்கர், அழகர்சாமியின் குதிரை, மயிலு, தாண்டவக்கோனே, ஸ்ரீராமராஜ்யம், தோணி, நீதானே என் பொன்வசந்தம், மேகா, சித்திரையில் நிலாச்சோறு, ஓநாயும் ஆட்டுக்குட்டியும், உன் சமையல் அறையில் என பாடல்கள், பின்னணி இசை என அள்ளி அள்ளி வழங்கிக்கொண்டுதான் இருக்கிறார் வற்றாத ஜீவ நதியாய். ராஜாவோடு ஒரு படைப்பாளி இணையாமல் எடுக்கப்படும் ஒவ்வொரு படைப்பும் என்னைப் பொருத்தவரையில் முழுமை அடையாது. ஒரு நல்ல படைப்பாளி "அய்யய்யோ ராஜா இல்லாமல் இதை படைக்கிறோமே, அதை ஈடுகட்ட எப்படியெல்லாம் முயற்சிக்கணும்!" என மனதின் ஓரத்தில் கொஞ்சமாவது நினைப்பார். குப்பை போன்ற படைப்பை கோபுரத்தில் வைத்து அழகுபார்ப்பார்.. கோபுரம் போன்ற படைப்பை ஆகாசத்தில் வைத்து பிரமிக்கச் செய்வார்.. அதுதான் ராஜா.

rajsekar
18th December 2014, 10:20 PM
RSubras - I don't want to discuss Kaaviya Thalaivan's fiasco in Raaja's thread. Some of Rahman's hard core fans took objection to my earlier comment about his poor performance for KV. One of Vasantha Balan's main objective was to screen KV at Cannes Film festival besides other European film circuits - foreigners would sleep off after 60 minutes. For this exposure VB certainly required an international stamp recognition for his film and Rahman perfectly fit the role. Rahman's Oscar basket is the best way to enter international film festivals. Vasantha Balan had a hard time to convince Rahman to score the music for KV. Rahman and VB worked nearly 7 months (mostly remote) to finalize the songs and the tune. All this is public information.

Motte_dhasan - As I keep reminding our fan base, don't expect Kamal and Rajini to sign up with Raaja anymore. Those golden days are gone. As I mentioned earlier, Lingaa was basically a quick fix band-aid to put some money back into distributors and theatre owners' pockets who lost their shirt & pant for Kochaadaiyaan's massive flop. Ravikumar is a quick fix director who could patch a movie within 9 months. Of course, Rahman's stamp brings in more money when the movie is auctioned to distributors. Rajini's Swamy "Ilayaraaja" (how he addresses him) is used during visits to Director Panju Arunachalam's house. Gasolina seem to have been inspired by the Puerto Rican Reggae artist, Daddy Yankee's album by the same name. Imagine a 63 year old hero romancing in a song with a female half his age. Raaja gave a memorable romantic number when Sivaji danced with Ambika in Vaazhkai. Finally Kamal seemed to have liked Ghibran's style of working and he would probably score all his remaining movies. Maybe Ghibran's fees could be much lower than Raaja.

thumburu
19th December 2014, 04:24 PM
superb post motte-dasan. Cent percent concur with every word of yours.

thumburu
19th December 2014, 04:26 PM
superb post motte_dhaasan. Cent percent concur with every word of yours.

irir123
20th December 2014, 01:42 AM
RSubras - I don't want to discuss Kaaviya Thalaivan's fiasco in Raaja's thread. Some of Rahman's hard core fans took objection to my earlier comment about his poor performance for KV. One of Vasantha Balan's main objective was to screen KV at Cannes Film festival besides other European film circuits - foreigners would sleep off after 60 minutes. For this exposure VB certainly required an international stamp recognition for his film and Rahman perfectly fit the role. Rahman's Oscar basket is the best way to enter international film festivals. Vasantha Balan had a hard time to convince Rahman to score the music for KV. Rahman and VB worked nearly 7 months (mostly remote) to finalize the songs and the tune. All this is public information.

Motte_dhasan - As I keep reminding our fan base, don't expect Kamal and Rajini to sign up with Raaja anymore. Those golden days are gone. As I mentioned earlier, Lingaa was basically a quick fix band-aid to put some money back into distributors and theatre owners' pockets who lost their shirt & pant for Kochaadaiyaan's massive flop. Ravikumar is a quick fix director who could patch a movie within 9 months. Of course, Rahman's stamp brings in more money when the movie is auctioned to distributors. Rajini's Swamy "Ilayaraaja" (how he addresses him) is used during visits to Director Panju Arunachalam's house. Gasolina seem to have been inspired by the Puerto Rican Reggae artist, Daddy Yankee's album by the same name. Imagine a 63 year old hero romancing in a song with a female half his age. Raaja gave a memorable romantic number when Sivaji danced with Ambika in Vaazhkai. Finally Kamal seemed to have liked Ghibran's style of working and he would probably score all his remaining movies. Maybe Ghibran's fees could be much lower than Raaja.



IR and Kamal not working together is a mystery that puzzles me no end!

did anyone listen closely to the theme track of "Interstellar" by Hans Zimmer ? it bears resemblance to the prelude of "appadi paakkaradhunnaa venam" from IVAN by IR !

Don't know what is the problem Kamal has reg working with IR - I can think of some possibilities:

1. for VR, Kamal didnt want to use IR for two reasons: perhaps he anticipated the kind of backlash the film received around its release and didnt want to drag IR into it ? secondly SEL is more popular in the North than IR - indha bollywood market mogam paduthhum paadu !

2. Kamal's open praise of IR almost at every other opportunity might send wrong signals about him associating only with IR and not capable of working with others - hence DSP for MA (shd have been named Manmadhan Sombu for its second half), but using Himesh Reshamiya for DASA is unpardonable - naanga yennayyaa paavam pannom ?

3. His use of Ghibran for VR and other films - Ghibran is definitely a fresh talent - but besides the talent, this move is also a 'politically correct' move IMO - idharkku vilakkam venumnaa PM anuppunga try pandren.

4. Kamal doesnt think music is an integral part of his films anymore - if he did create a script that demanded superlative music, he will be back with IR - IMO.

as for Rajini - IR combo, dont know who is refusing to work with whom ? Rajini films soundtracks with Deva were below mediocre, and with ARR, patchily/sporadically great (udaney ARR / Rajini fans sandaikku varaadheenga - ARRoda market nilavaratha use pandradhukku thaan avara MDyaa pottu padam pannaanga yenbadhu yennoda karuthhu)

mappi
20th December 2014, 03:52 PM
3. His use of Ghibran for VR and other films - Ghibran is definitely a fresh talent - but besides the talent, this move is also a 'politically correct' move IMO - idharkku vilakkam venumnaa PM anuppunga try pandren.

irir123,

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irir123
20th December 2014, 08:21 PM
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rajsekar
20th December 2014, 10:40 PM
IRIR - Good analysis and agree 100% with your assessment. Ghibran was receently interviewed by Hindu. It was interesting to read the time he took to compose two songs.

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-cinemaplus/tune-in-to-ghibran/article6603472.ece

My gut feeling is that Vairamuthu has again played the Naradar role to wean Kamal away from Raaja. It appears that the Raaja-Vairamuthu rift was very deep seated. It remains to be seen how Kamal's forthcoming three films would fare in box-office collections. Having seen "Dhrishyam", I am hesitant to give the same kudos to Kamal in "Papanasam" for copying Mohanlal's role - let's wait for the movie's release. Kamal could have joined hands with Myskin as promised two years ago and produced a great film. Myskin's "Pisasu" has received great reviews. Myskin, in my opinion is one of the bright Tamil film directors.

As far as Lingaa is concerned, distributors are after Ravikumar for directing a crappy film for Rajini. The reviews are hopeless!!!!. Rajini should retire and focus on some humanitarian work to help our country. I love the person but not his commercial misadventures. His daughter too should pack her bags and move out of Kodambakkam.

http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/lingaa-nobody-can-save-a-film-with-weak-content/article6704271.ece

http://www.thehindu.com/features/cinema/cinema-reviews/pisasu-a-terrific-addition-to-one-of-the-most-exciting-oeuvres-in-tamil-cinema/article6708812.ece?homepage=true&utm_source=MostPopular&utm_medium=Homepage&utm_campaign=WidgetPromo

rajsekar
20th December 2014, 10:57 PM
Baradwaj Rangan's new book "A Journey Through Indian Cinema" was released in Chennai this week. As you all know, Rangan's film reviews and blogs are very popular and he tries to be frank and straightforward to point the flaws and weak points in any film, besides technical aspects. I will wait to buy the book when it's released abroad. I am currently digesting his earlier book "Conversations with Mani Ratnam" which was well written. Mani's take on Raaja and Rahman is very interesting. I am trying to analyze how Directors deal with different technical artists while producing a mega release. As promised a year ago, I will certainly post my comments on how Mani compares the working style of both Raaja and Rahman.

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-metroplus/from-the-diary-of-a-film-critic/article6705854.ece

irir123
22nd December 2014, 04:06 AM
IRIR - Good analysis and agree 100% with your assessment. Ghibran was receently interviewed by Hindu. It was interesting to read the time he took to compose two songs.

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-cinemaplus/tune-in-to-ghibran/article6603472.ece

My gut feeling is that Vairamuthu has again played the Naradar role to wean Kamal away from Raaja. It appears that the Raaja-Vairamuthu rift was very deep seated. It remains to be seen how Kamal's forthcoming three films would fare in box-office collections. Having seen "Dhrishyam", I am hesitant to give the same kudos to Kamal in "Papanasam" for copying Mohanlal's role - let's wait for the movie's release. Kamal could have joined hands with Myskin as promised two years ago and produced a great film. Myskin's "Pisasu" has received great reviews. Myskin, in my opinion is one of the bright Tamil film directors.

As far as Lingaa is concerned, distributors are after Ravikumar for directing a crappy film for Rajini. The reviews are hopeless!!!!. Rajini should retire and focus on some humanitarian work to help our country. I love the person but not his commercial misadventures. His daughter too should pack her bags and move out of Kodambakkam.

http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/lingaa-nobody-can-save-a-film-with-weak-content/article6704271.ece

http://www.thehindu.com/features/cinema/cinema-reviews/pisasu-a-terrific-addition-to-one-of-the-most-exciting-oeuvres-in-tamil-cinema/article6708812.ece?homepage=true&utm_source=MostPopular&utm_medium=Homepage&utm_campaign=WidgetPromo



Vairamuthu as Naradar ?! doubt it - Kamal is not the one to fall for such gimmickry / tactics - I still think Kamal's choice is dependent on the other factors I mentioned - industry matrum fans vattarathhula "kamal yappavume IR oda vela seyyaradhukku thaan laayakku" ngra pechhu adibadakkoodadhu.

plus Kamal working with other MDs is actually good - so far as he samples from a wide range - those newcomers are also getting a better exposure with Kamal sharing his experience working with them.

rajsekar
22nd December 2014, 07:29 PM
"Shamitabh" brand poster was released today. The brand new posters of Amitabh Bachchan and Dhanush starrer Shamitabh have now been revealed. While we had seen earlier Amitabh Bachchan’s unusual look before and here are the new posters of the duo wearing Lennon glasses. The film’s name interestingly combines Amitabh Bachchan and Dhanush’s name. In the posters, both look chic. The film will also star Akshara Haasan who will make her debut with this film. The film has been directed by R Balki. Music by Maestro Ilayaraaja. Cinematography by PC Sreeram. Sreeram is also working with Mani Ratnam for "Okay Kanmani" after a long period.

http://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-popular/shamitabh-brand-new-posters-ft-amitabh-bachchan-dhanush/

rajsekar
23rd December 2014, 09:02 PM
Director KB passed away. One of my favorite directors who was very focused on the story and screenplay. KB's movies have dealt with many of the social issues in our South Indian society. Good music direction and song selection were always a strong point in KB's movies. Mellisai Mannar MSV composed majority of KB's movies followed by Maestro. It is worth mentioning that KB's "Ninaithale Inikkum" with blockbuster songs by MSV (13 songs penned by Kannadasan) clashed head on with Rajini's "Priya" which had super-duper songs by Maestro. Both films were released around the same time in early 1979. There are several memorable songs from KB's films. KB also worked with Raaja's violinist VS Narasimhan in "Achamillai Achamillai". KB has worked with Raja for six films – Sindhu Bhairavi, Punnagai Mannan, Manadhil Uruthi Vendum, Rudraveena, Unnal Mudiyum Thambi and Puthu Puthu Arthangal. Raaja received his first National Award for Tamil Film in 1986 for KB's "Sindhu Bhairavi" which was their first collaboration. The delay in composing the background score for "Puthu Puthu Arthangal" led to their breakup. It appears that KB had already set the release date for the film and Raaja was busy with many films at that time. After this film, KB wanted a new music director for his next home production "Roja". KB insisted that Mani Ratnam would find a new music director which led him to a small music studio (Panchathan Record Inn) in Kodambakkam in early 1990 which was the Ad Jingle musician, AS Dileep Kumar's backyard. KB and Raaja later patched up and attended many functions together. May His Soul Rest in peace ....

One of my favorite classical songs by Maestro which is still refreshing and melodious to hear after 30 years. KB and his songs rule!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEbtsC2YQd0

krish244
24th December 2014, 06:45 AM
L.Subramaniam about IR:

http://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/tamil/music/Ilaiyaraaja-did-not-believe-in-God-L-Subramaniam/articleshow/45618180.cms


thanks,

Krishnan

K
26th December 2014, 11:39 AM
Swappnam Teaser.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niszn3v5PME

rajsekar
26th December 2014, 09:22 PM
http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/dance/ilaiyaraaja-the-maestros-new-steps/article6724845.ece

This is the first time Ilaiyaraaja has scored music for a dance opera although there are several full-length dance-based movies to his credit.

The dance script needed music of a kind that would be expressive and guiding, and Krithika says she could not think of anyone other than maestro Ilaiyaraaja. Wary of whether he would accept such a paradigm shift in his professional work, Krithika wanted only a few songs composed by him.

Ilaiyaraaja loves to innovate with rhythm as is evident in his songs. Bharatanatyam offers a lot of scope for this. So what was new in this production? “In the song, ‘Pradeepta Rathnajowla,’ I have set a different talakattu.” He pauses, and taking a cue, Krithika explains, “It is a mix of sankirnam (nine beats) and misram (seven beats). It is a new concept for a dancer to interpret. Choreographing for this was pretty tough as we had to set new jatis. It opened up new dimensions for us.” Ilaiyaraaja adds that they sum up to 16 beats.

Thirty tracks have been recorded for ‘Swappnam’ and of them, nine will be released as a CD by santoor wizard Pt. Shivkumar Sharma on December 28. Popular Carnatic musicians such as T.V. Gopalakrishnan, Sudha Ragunathan, Rajashree Pathak, Abhishek Raghuram, Vasudha Ravi, Poornima Sathish and Bharath Sundar have lent their voice while instrumental artists including Haridwaramangalam A.K. Palanivel, Embar Kannan, Rajhesh Vaidhya and Palghat Sriram have also contributed. Karthik Raja is also part of this project.

I hope that Krithika would release the DVD for the entire project along with the dance choreography.

Russellhaj
26th December 2014, 11:30 PM
Raja, in essence !!



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5wKsRkCEAA9uaj.jpg:large



Amen,

Thanks Kavi !:)

krish244
27th December 2014, 01:41 PM
IR pays tribute to S.Balasubramanian (chairman of Vikatan publications) who passed away few days back:

"...Ilaiyaraaja paid floral tributes to Balasubramaniam’s portrait kept at the residence.

He then sang the Janani…Janani… song, one of the most popular songs sung by him, in front of Balasubramaniam’s family members who were moved to tears as the late journo had loved the song a lot. Later, Ilaiyaraaja chatted for a few minutes with the family members, pointing out the great qualities of the departed journo..."

thanks,

Krishnan

Russellhaj
29th December 2014, 07:02 PM
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Russellhaj
29th December 2014, 07:30 PM
Isaignani and Swappnam team!



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Russellhaj
29th December 2014, 08:44 PM
ஸ்வப்னம்: மிக அற்புதமான காவிய கூத்து நிகழ்வு; லாஜிக் பார்க்கக்கூடாது என்று முதலிலேயே சொன்னதால் பாட்டிற்கும் நடன அசைவுகளுக்கும், juxtoapoose செய்யப்பட்ட காட்சிகள்/அசைவுகளுக்கும் அர்த்தம் கற்பிக்காமல் அனுபவிக்க மட்டும் முயன்றேன். இசை மிக பொருத்தமானது; செமி க்ளாசிகல் எனலாம். தேவைக்கு அதிகமாக எந்த இடத்திலும் தீற்றிக்கொண்டு இராதது. அதற்கான நடனம் உச்ச பட்ச கிரியேடிவானது.

ஆனால் நான் திருவாசகம் போல ராஜாவின் ஒரிஜினல் படைப்பை எதிர்பார்த்தேன். பாதிக்கு மேல் ஏற்கனவே இருந்த மரபான க்ளாசிக் கீர்த்தனைகள் (அதில் பெரும்பான்மை தமிழ்) பயன்படுத்தப்பட்டன; ராஜா அதில் தாளரீதியில் தனது கைவண்ணத்தை நடனத்திற்கு ஏற்ப அமைத்திருந்தார். சில அவரே கம்போஸ் செய்தது என்று நினைக்கிறேன்; சிடியில் கேட்க்கவேண்டும். ராஜாவிற்கு மட்டுமே சாத்தியமாகும் மேற்கத்திய பாணி இந்திய பாணியுடன் அணுவோடு அணுவாய் கலந்த இசையை எதிர்பார்த்தேன். ஒண்ணேமுக்கால் மணி நேர நிகழ்ச்சியில் சுமார் 10 நிமிடத்தை மேற்கத்திய பாணி ஆக்ரமித்திருக்கலாம் என்று கணிக்கிறேன். சைக்கோவ்ஸ்க்கிதனமான ஒரு பாலே இசையும், ஒரு கோரஸ் சிம்ஃப்னியும் தெளிவாக ராஜாவின் கையெழுத்து. முக்கியமாக இறுதியில் வந்த ராக்தனமான ஒரு இசைக்கு நாட்டியம் முழு நியாயம் செய்யவில்லை என்றே நினைக்கிறேன். இசைரீதியில் trance. சிடியில் அது கேட்கக் கிடைக்கும் என்று மிகவும் எதிர்பார்க்கிறேன்.

ஆனால் ஒரு ராஜா ரசிகனாக எனக்கு எதிர்பார்த்த தீனி கிடைக்கவில்லை. இந்த நிகழ்ச்சி பிரபலமாகி, (அதற்கான எல்லா தகுதியும் உண்டு) ராஜா மேலும் இது போல பலவற்றை அளிக்க ஒரு மார்கெட் சினிமாவிற்கு வெளியே உருவானால் அப்படி ஒரு தீனி நமக்கு கிடைக்கலாம். அதைவிட அதிர்ஷ்டமானது எது!



-rozavasanth

rajsekar
29th December 2014, 10:09 PM
Poem - Thanks a lot!!! for the analysis. I am waiting to see the full DVD for the dance recital. Having seen other Bharathanatyam choreography, the musical score would always follow the intricate footsteps of the dance sequence. Hearing the music alone may not give the complete feeling for the songs. One example is Raaja's score for "Salangai Oli" which had nearly three classical dance sequences by Sailaja and Manju Bhargavi and the scope for introducing any western notes is absolutely zero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eah-6WLnVxc

Russellhaj
31st December 2014, 03:54 AM
High and Low... Swappnam - Dreams Composed by Maestro Isai Gnani...




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Russellhaj
31st December 2014, 04:37 AM
At "Swappnam" Dance..


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Russellhaj
31st December 2014, 04:39 AM
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Russellhaj
31st December 2014, 04:59 AM
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Russellhaj
31st December 2014, 05:26 AM
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Kimrep
2nd January 2015, 09:11 PM
Is this legit? i vaguely remember reading about this, you guys know firsthand if this is a legitimate effort with good results? worth paying? thanks

http://www.honeybeemusicstudio.com/albums.html

rajsekar
3rd January 2015, 12:03 AM
Wishing all world wide Isai Gnani Fans a Happy New Year 2015!!!!

So the little Master is married again for the third time!!! It's become fashionable for MDs to act, direct, produce and even script movies. I am reminded of our old friend, T Rajendar who did all these departments and finally became bankrupt. Why can't our little master do what's best in his DNA? Probably excel in Music Direction. Having scored music for more than 200 films, Yuvan hasn't exactly matched his father's legacy. I doubt if anyone could come closer to our Raaja. I sincerely hope that Yuvan would focus on what's best in his interest and excel in that field. Our Indian film world (Hindi and all south Indian languages) is littered with artists born of yesteryear stars. Life has been quite easy and entry to film world was handed over in a golden platter. It remains to be seen how many of these so called Mini-Stars would continue to remain in business. The movie loving audience is certainly at the receiving end of these rubbish productions.

http://chennaionline.com/movies/gallery/Events/Yuvan-marriage-album/20150102024721.col#7.html
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/news/Yuvan-secretly-marries-for-the-third-time/articleshow/45725507.cms

rajsekar
3rd January 2015, 08:00 AM
Is this legit? i vaguely remember reading about this, you guys know firsthand if this is a legitimate effort with good results? worth paying? thanks

http://www.honeybeemusicstudio.com/albums.html

I have read Muthusamy's article in Hindu sometime ago. It appears to be a legitimate effort since he himself has shown the results to Maestro. All the songs of Maestro which is currently in circulation and sold through iTunes are all low frequency and compressed music files. Ever since cassette tapes replaced vinyl records, we lost the Hi-Fi clarity of Raaja's musical tones. It's quite unfortunate that the retail version of his songs are compressed files while the original recording is in DTS mode. The original DTS recording in loss less format (100% uncompressed) will fit only in DVD or Blu-Ray discs. In order to play such a format, an audiophile grade player, DTS receiver and set of high-quality timbre speakers is required. The setup alone would easily cost around 5000 to 10,000 US Dollars. All Dhalapathy songs including "Sundari Kannal Oru Seidhi" was recorded in Bombay, where RD Burman usually records. The Indian Navy band orchestra was used for the song recording and imagine hearing the song in an audiophile speaker and receiver. Maybe 10,000 US$ is priceless!!!

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/chen-cinema/music-to-his-ears/article4810299.ece

krish244
3rd January 2015, 06:37 PM
IR sends a legal notice to director Shankar (producer of Kappal movie) for remixing "Oora vittu ooru vandhu" song in the movie Kappal.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/blames-the-director-for-remixing-his-composition-without-permission/article6749679.ece

thanks,

Krishnan

krish244
8th January 2015, 09:00 AM
Balki is planning an event on Jan 20 for IR to commemorate 1000 movies milestone of IR


http://www.deccanchronicle.com/150108/entertainment-kollywood/article/1000-films-ilayaraja-balki-celebrate

thanks,

Krishnan

SVN
8th January 2015, 06:22 PM
http://www.rediff.com/movies/report/balki-to-throw-star-studded-bash-for-ilayaraja/20150108.htm

rajsekar
9th January 2015, 09:05 PM
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/lingaa-distributors-seek-compensation/article6769643.ece?homepage=true&ref=tpnews
http://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/now-kochadaiyaan-producers-in-financial-tangle/article6729035.ece

What a pity for Rajinikanth!!!! This was expected when I watched "Mona Gasolina" song - worst Rajini song ever picturized. The ticket sales for Lingaa tanked the very next day in A Centers due to massive cancellations. The distributors tried their best to open maximum number of shows on the first day to get more collections than usual. The movie was a torture to sit and watch for die-hard Rajini fans. All Ravikumar movies lose steam after one hour and the audience is left to wonder about the lost pace with the main story. All his movies have a slow death syndrome - Manmadhan Ambu, Dasavaatharam, Lingaa, etc. On the other hand, it was a great experience to watch Amir Khan's "PK". Why can't Rajini find a good director like Mahendran, Balki, Baala, Bharathiraaja to direct a movie that fits Rajini's age and style of acting? How did Rajini approve the crappy dance sequences (Mexican style dance & tune in an ancient Tamil period) with two young females who are a quarter of his age? With two massive back-to-back flops, Rajini should really look at what the fans want from him.

Just watch this Rajini song and acting style in this video. Such a beautiful song!!! Sridevi hardly walks in this song due to some problem with her leg. Rajini more than compensates for this with this typical walking style. The Director need not go to Machu Pichu, Switzerland and London to picturize a song - our azhagiya Chennai is great... Can you believe that this song was composed and picturized in 1979? After this song, please watch "Mona Gasolina" video - you would expect a more mature step sequence after 35 years of acting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wNEaQDYZGo

Kimrep
10th January 2015, 12:22 AM
I dont understand this concept of distributors asking for compensation. isnt it a business with risks? if they felt it was risky, they shouldnt have agreed to the terms before buying the film...

anyway, I wish Rajini and kamal would act their age and make good enjoyable movies. Rajini always followed the footsteps of Amitabh, wish he would do it now although it is late... Balki + Rajini + IR would be nice.

Russellmtp
10th January 2015, 07:23 AM
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/lingaa-distributors-seek-compensation/article6769643.ece?homepage=true&ref=tpnews
http://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/now-kochadaiyaan-producers-in-financial-tangle/article6729035.ece

What a pity for Rajinikanth!!!! This was expected when I watched "Mona Gasolina" song - worst Rajini song ever picturized. The ticket sales for Lingaa tanked the very next day in A Centers due to massive cancellations. The distributors tried their best to open maximum number of shows on the first day to get more collections than usual. The movie was a torture to sit and watch for die-hard Rajini fans. All Ravikumar movies lose steam after one hour and the audience is left to wonder about the lost pace with the main story. All his movies have a slow death syndrome - Manmadhan Ambu, Dasavaatharam, Lingaa, etc. On the other hand, it was a great experience to watch Amir Khan's "PK". Why can't Rajini find a good director like Mahendran, Balki, Baala, Bharathiraaja to direct a movie that fits Rajini's age and style of acting? How did Rajini approve the crappy dance sequences (Mexican style dance & tune in an ancient Tamil period) with two young females who are a quarter of his age? With two massive back-to-back flops, Rajini should really look at what the fans want from him.

Just watch this Rajini song and acting style in this video. Such a beautiful song!!! Sridevi hardly walks in this song due to some problem with her leg. Rajini more than compensates for this with this typical walking style. The Director need not go to Machu Pichu, Switzerland and London to picturize a song - our azhagiya Chennai is great... Can you believe that this song was composed and picturized in 1979? After this song, please watch "Mona Gasolina" video - you would expect a more mature step sequence after 35 years of acting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wNEaQDYZGo

Balki along the likes of Mahendran, Baala, and Bharathiraaja? Seriously? Would it be the same Balki who directed two ordinary movies propped up by masters like Ilayaraja and PC Sreeram? The same Balki who made a mockery of progeria children in his second movie and got away lightly? What was so great about Balki's 2 movies so far that he is considered as great as a Mahendran or a Bala or a Bharathiraaja other than the fact that they had good music and cinematography?

"Mexican style dance & tune in an ancient Tamil period" - "Mona Gasolina" song. In the movie, that song features the current day Lingaa (grandson of King Lingeswaran) and Anushka and so not "ancient" Tamil period. It is also only a dream song sequence. So, what is wrong in using a Mexican style tune?

summa yedhaavadhu kurai sollanum, appadithaane?

While "Lingaa" did not meet expectations, it did make more than its budget and so it is all profit for the producer. The problem the distributors are having is that they paid a hefty sum and it hasn't collected that much. So they are requesting Rajni to step in and request the producer to compensate them for their losses. This is silly because they assumed the risk while bidding for the movie and they should live with it. They are hoping that with some noise Rajni will do the same thing he did after Baba's failure. That will not happen this time:-D

Despite the film not meeting expectations, it still collected more than any of the much hyped, so-called "shahensha of Indian cinema" Amitabh's recent movies.

Romancing young heroines - feeling jealous?:-D The two heroines don't seem to have a problem with that and haven't heard too many Rajni fans complain about that either. If anyone else has a problem, the solution is simple. They don't need to watch the movie.:-D

Rajni's last movie with Raja was "Veera". After that Rajni has had several hits - Baasha, Padayappa, Sivaji, Enthiran, Chandramukhi. So it is not like Rajni's career went downhill after parting ways with Raja. For a movie like "Lingaa", the result would have been the same regardless of the composer.

Why should Rajni follow Amitabh's footsteps now? What works for Amitabh need not necessarily work for Rajni. It may have worked in the past but not necessarily now. Rajni still commands a crazy fan-following and collects a much higher remuneration than Amitabh. It is out of humility that he says that Amitabh is still "shahenshah of Indian cinema". Amitabh would also romance young heroines if anyone would be willing to watch it:-D Unfortunately for him, those days are over for him and so he is acting in matured roles. That day may eventually come for Rajni too but not yet.

Russellmtp
10th January 2015, 07:30 AM
Balki is planning an event on Jan 20 for IR to commemorate 1000 movies milestone of IR


http://www.deccanchronicle.com/150108/entertainment-kollywood/article/1000-films-ilayaraja-balki-celebrate

thanks,

Krishnan

Nice event. Wish someone from the Tamil film industry had planned it. However, this is better. An event hosted and attended by Bollywood bigwigs will get more media attention.

Wish they invite Rahman too. He has played keyboard for Raja as well.

rajsekar
10th January 2015, 12:58 PM
Thozhar: The film producer Venkatesh certainly lost his shirt. He probably borrowed a major chunk of money at high interest rate like many producers. Ascar Ravichandran still owes money to financiers on his flop ventures and hence Shankar's "I" has been stayed by the High Court. Maniratnam's brother committed suicide over similar flop movies when financiers started threatening his family. Rajini hurriedly agreed to "Lingaa" to make up for the colossal loss from "Kochadaiyan". Unfortunately Lingaa too failed miserably. Your observations about Rajini fans in the other thread is amusing. Here is a great movie project to make up for Lingaa's failure. Ravikumar could use another mediocre script using three young females - Hansika for Tamil audience, Sunny Leone for Hindi viewers, and an American actress for western audience. Ravikumar can have four language release in Tamil, Telugu, Hindi and English. I'm sure these same distributors would pay twice the amount to bid. The director can have a Japanese tune song and romantic number with Sunny Leone.

rajsekar
11th January 2015, 06:01 AM
Amitabh's latest song Piddly from his upcoming drama film "Shamitabh" has become a hit. Big B talks to Bombay Times about working with the perfectionist Ilaiyaraaja, the place of music in his life and how he has never sung for his father when he was alive. Excerpts:

http://toi.in/gKdhGb

For the Piddly song, Amitabh just requested for the pro tools to be sent to him in Bombay. And then Amitabh would go and sit with Aadesh Shrivastava right next door with just the two of them in a small room. Very rare for Raaja to record a song without the singer present in his recording studio. Amitabh and Shrivastava recorded the song in Bombay with minimum orchestra and Maestro combined the full live orchestra with Amitabh's voice recording in Prasad Studio. A similar recording was done by Bombay Jayashree for her Oscar nominated Tamil lullaby song in the movie "Life of Pi". Jayashree recorded the song in a Chennai studio and the Canadian Music Director Mychael Danna mixed the final song in Los Angeles.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/music/news/Aadesh-Shrivastava-takes-Indian-music-worldwide/articleshow/44799855.cms

R Balki made Amitabh Bachchan record the whole film in his voice before shooting for Shamitabh. Hollywood Director M Night Shyamalan too uses the same technique. Shyamalan actually creates detailed story board of each and every scene of the movie before starting the actual movie shoot. Very rare trait in today's film industry.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/R-Balki-made-Amitabh-Bachchan-record-the-whole-film-in-his-voice-before-shooting-for-Shamitabh/articleshow/45789320.cms

SVN
11th January 2015, 05:57 PM
Look at the way the journo (PR person in disguise) referring to Adesh Shrivastava as a "Maestro", the 'Music Giant", "Pioneer in taking Indian music to a global platform" etc. Here are some more gems...

"...the first Indian to record as many as four tracks at the Abbey Road Studio".

Really, that's an achievement?

The 'Global' album they are referring to has as many as 11 Indian musicians (including 3 from Adesh's own family) and 2 US-based musicians - Akon and Wyclef Jean, who is a hip-hop artist.

What the likes of Ravi Shankar and L Subramaniam did in the 70s and 80s is completely immaterial, it seems. The Pioneer Adesh has arrived.

The writer doesn't even know how to spell Philharmonic. He calls it Fil Harmonic.

Awful PR-article in the name of journalism!

venkkiram
12th January 2015, 08:13 AM
Wish they invite Rahman too. He has played keyboard for Raja as well.

இது போன்ற சாதனைக்கெல்லாம் யாருக்குமே அழைப்பிதழ் கொடுத்து விழாவிற்கு வருகை தாருங்கள் என கூப்பிடத் தேவையே இல்ல என்பது எனது கருத்து. இளையராஜா நம் நாட்டின் பொக்கிஷம், விலைமதிக்க முடியாத செல்வம். இந்தியத் திரைப்பட வரலாற்றில் அவரது இந்த சாதனை மிக முக்கியமான நிகழ்வு. அவரது இசையை சுவாசித்தவர்கள், அவரது இசையின் மூலம் கற்றுக்கொண்டவர்கள், அவரது இசையின் மூலம் வெளிச்சத்திற்கு வந்தவர்கள், அவரது இசையில் கோலோச்சியவர்கள் என எல்லோருமே தானாகவே விழாவிற்கு வருகை தரலாம். அதெல்லாம் ஒரு கடமை.

sivasub
12th January 2015, 02:26 PM
Press meet

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QNtov4b5bpM

sivasub
12th January 2015, 02:41 PM
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13eynojuxjmwvwh404cdxuxarrgvxz450o

Now talk about national anthem in a new format

rajsekar
12th January 2015, 08:50 PM
http://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/kjyesudas-celestial-voice-turns-75/article6777652.ece?homepage=true

53 years of professional singing, KJY turned 75 years two days ago and celebrated his birthday as usual by singing in Kollur Mookambigai Temple with his family members. The influence of Mookambigai is something that Raaja and KJY share for many years going back to MGR days. It's a well known fact that KJY started singing in Malayalam much before Hindi and Tamil. Mellisai Mannar introduced KJY in 1963 and started using him for some of the super-duper hits of MGR and Sivaji in place of TMS. Raaja and KJY became acquaintances when they recorded for Salil Choudhary and other Malayalam MDs. RK Shekhar was the main music organizer for majority of Malayalam MDs in Madras and Raaja/ KJY worked closely with Shekhar for many Malayalam movies. KJY was the brain behind establishing Tharangini Audio Studios in Thiruvanantapuram to move some of the music recordings to Kerala.

It's fair to state that Raaja really used KJY's voice in maximum number of variations for various actors in Tamil films. KJY is considered a Gold standard for Malayalam film songs and majority of his songs are slow numbers be it duet or sad. In Hindi, the MDs Ravindra Jain and Salil gave him more romantic numbers without much tonal variations - all were great hit songs. MSV used KJY for MGR, Sivaji, Kamal and few others. Raaja utilized KJY for bizarre songs like "Vacha Parvai", "Thanni Thotti", "Yerikkarai Poongatre" and "Vachukava" and of course hundreds of memorable duets and sad songs. Just listen to the duet and pathos versions of "Vellai Pura Ondru" for Rajini. KJY's recent lullaby for Myskin's "Nandalala" makes you really cry. KJY was instrumental in introducing Chitra and Sujatha to Raaja. Baby Sujatha would accompany KJY for all his music concerts in India.

MGR's favorite song by KJY and tuned by Melissai Mannar with just one instrument. The other song is "Intha Pachai Kilikoru".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiMsq4-dRHY

My all-time favorite of KJY and Raaja. This is also Shailaja's first duet with KJY. I am trying to get a uncompressed & lossless version of this great melody to play back in a studio speaker system. If you have a pair of high-quality studio headphones (non noise-cancellation), just listen to Maestro's strings and KJY's humming in the beginning. Even in concerts today, no one could reproduce the perfect humming by KJY/ Shailaja. Raaja must have retaken this song 15-20 times during recording. You are just transported to another world every time you hear this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blx2qZmECXs

Russellmtp
12th January 2015, 10:58 PM
இது போன்ற சாதனைக்கெல்லாம் யாருக்குமே அழைப்பிதழ் கொடுத்து விழாவிற்கு வருகை தாருங்கள் என கூப்பிடத் தேவையே இல்ல என்பது எனது கருத்து. இளையராஜா நம் நாட்டின் பொக்கிஷம், விலைமதிக்க முடியாத செல்வம். இந்தியத் திரைப்பட வரலாற்றில் அவரது இந்த சாதனை மிக முக்கியமான நிகழ்வு. அவரது இசையை சுவாசித்தவர்கள், அவரது இசையின் மூலம் கற்றுக்கொண்டவர்கள், அவரது இசையின் மூலம் வெளிச்சத்திற்கு வந்தவர்கள், அவரது இசையில் கோலோச்சியவர்கள் என எல்லோருமே தானாகவே விழாவிற்கு வருகை தரலாம். அதெல்லாம் ஒரு கடமை.

ரஹ்மான் நம்மை போல் சாதாரண விசிறி அல்ல. விழாவை நடத்தும் பால்கி, சுசீலா, ஜானகி, பாலு, தாசேட்டன் போன்றவர்களை அழைத்திருப்பதாக தகவல். அது போல் ரஹ்மானையும் அழைத்தால் நன்றாக இருக்கும் என்பதுதான் எனது பதிவின் சாராம்சம். அது புரியாமல் இதையும் ஒரு சாக்காக வைத்து ரஹ்மானையும் சாதாரன ரசிகராக சித்தரிப்பது ரொம்ப ஓவர். ரஹ்மானை அழைத்து ராஜாவின் சாதனையை பற்றி பேச அவருக்கு நேரம் ஒதுக்கலாம். நம்மை போல் சாதாரன ரசிகர்களுக்கு அல்ல.

venkkiram
13th January 2015, 12:15 AM
ரஹ்மான் நம்மை போல் சாதாரண விசிறி அல்ல. விழாவை நடத்தும் பால்கி, சுசீலா, ஜானகி, பாலு, தாசேட்டன் போன்றவர்களை அழைத்திருப்பதாக தகவல். அது போல் ரஹ்மானையும் அழைத்தால் நன்றாக இருக்கும் என்பதுதான் எனது பதிவின் சாராம்சம். அது புரியாமல் இதையும் ஒரு சாக்காக வைத்து ரஹ்மானையும் சாதாரன ரசிகராக சித்தரிப்பது ரொம்ப ஓவர். ரஹ்மானை அழைத்து ராஜாவின் சாதனையை பற்றி பேச அவருக்கு நேரம் ஒதுக்கலாம். நம்மை போல் சாதாரன ரசிகர்களுக்கு அல்ல.

"யாருக்குமே" எனக் குறிப்பிட்டு விட்டேனே! அப்புறம் என்ன ரஹ்மான், சுசீலா, ஜானகி, பாலு, தாசேட்டன் என பிரிவு! நான் எல்லோரையும் கணக்கில் கொண்டு பொதுவாகத்தான் சொன்னேன்.

xabisore
13th January 2015, 04:48 AM
@Venkkiram

ராஜா சாருக்கு செய்கிற இந்த மரியாதை , தமிழ் நாட்டுல நடத்தினதான் ரொம்ப சரியாய் இருக்கும் இது என்னோட விருப்பம் ..1000 படங்கள் , இது வரலாறு . அவரோடு வேலை செஞ்ச எல்லோரையும் கூபிட்டு , அவரைப்பற்றி அவர்கள் அறிந்ததை பேச வைக்க வேண்டும். இது ஒரு festival-ka iruka vendum.

Need to invite people from all over india .Other than southern part of india, Raaja sir has worked with other film industry as well in india.

மியூசிக் Directors
Singers
டைரக்டர்s
Music Atrists
writers (கவிஞர்கள் )
producers
Top actors
hungary musicians..

sivasub
13th January 2015, 05:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz7wLRfK_IA

The whole Shamitabh team meet... most of the talking done by Balki, and rightfully so :)

krish244
14th January 2015, 05:24 PM
More details on national anthem song (orchestration) by IR. It seems both IR and Amitabh will be singing it along with other artists and will be broadcasted on leading tv channels on 26th of Jan.

"...“We have made changes neither in the tune nor in the pronunciation of the anthem. Ilaiyaraaja knows better that he shouldn’t tamper with them. The only change is that it would be appearing in Ilaiyaraaja’s music and would be sung jointly by Ilaiyaraaja and Amitabh Bachchan. It’s my dream to record this song in Ilaiyaraaja’s recording studio which has given thousands of melodies over the past many decades,” concludes Balki."

http://www.newdelhitimes.com/ilayaraja-and-big-b-to-recreate-the-enchantment-of-national-anthem123/

thanks,

Krishnan

rajaramsgi
15th January 2015, 07:45 PM
"...“We have made changes neither in the tune nor in the pronunciation of the anthem. Ilaiyaraaja knows better that he shouldn’t tamper with them. The only change is that it would be appearing in Ilaiyaraaja’s music and would be sung jointly by Ilaiyaraaja and Amitabh Bachchan. It’s my dream to record this song in Ilaiyaraaja’s recording studio which has given thousands of melodies over the past many decades,” concludes Balki."


Very good and a different thought, Balki. I can't wait to see how the national anthem layers on top of Raja sir's sounds.

thanks for sharing krishnan.

dochu
15th January 2015, 07:55 PM
"...“We have made changes neither in the tune nor in the pronunciation of the anthem. Ilaiyaraaja knows better that he shouldn’t tamper with them. The only change is that it would be appearing in Ilaiyaraaja’s music and would be sung jointly by Ilaiyaraaja and Amitabh Bachchan.



One can come up with different tunes and such to suit the latest generations taste like VM by ARR etc, however, when it comes to a traditional piece with historical significance, I think there is no better person than IR to understand the true value and respect it.

sivasub
16th January 2015, 12:15 AM
Did anyone hear about this project? Looks like a shelved one reopened now.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/entertainment/kannada/Mythri-Sees-The-Light-of-Day/2015/01/06/article2605053.ece

sivasub
19th January 2015, 08:40 AM
Ilaiyaraaja interview in TOI:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/music/news/Ilaiyaraaja-Amitabh-Bachchan-is-unbelievable/articleshow/45931443.cms

krish244
19th January 2015, 10:01 AM
The link says Dhanush will be crooning some hits of IR (during IR's felicitation f. I am not sure about onstage/live singing capabilities of Dhanush. I hope, even if messes up something, it is minimal.

http://www.ahmedabadmirror.com/entertainment/bollywood/Dhanush-takes-a-cue-from-Rajini/articleshow/45933617.cms

thanks,

Krishnan

irir123
19th January 2015, 09:29 PM
Ilaiyaraaja interview in TOI:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/music/news/Ilaiyaraaja-Amitabh-Bachchan-is-unbelievable/articleshow/45931443.cms



You have also worked with Rajinikanth?
He is a wonderful director. He is a fantastic screenplay writer. He is actually very good at that also, but his career is totally different. I once said to him, 'Why don't you write a script for yourself? You can write so well.' He said, 'Swamy, that is different Swamy.'


yenakku oru doubtu - indha badhil andha kelivikku thaanaa ? Rajini wonderful director aa? avaru direct panna padam yeppa release aanadhu ? naan paakkavella!

IR - neer oru puriyaadha pudhir!

xabisore
19th January 2015, 11:01 PM
is he talking about movie Valli?

venkkiram
20th January 2015, 12:24 AM
இதுல என்னங்க டவுட்.. இவ்வளவு காலம் சினிமாவில் குப்பை கொட்டினால் எல்லோருமே இயக்குனர்கள்தான். சிவாஜி, எம்.ஜி.ஆர், கமல், ரஜினி போன்றவர்கள் கதை-திரைக்கதை-பாடல் உருவாக்கம் வடிவத்திலேயே பங்குக் கொண்டு தங்களுக்குத் தேவையான அளவு படத்தின் போக்கை அமைத்துக் கொள்வார்கள். நாளாக நாளாக இயக்கம் என்பது தானாகவே கிரகித்துக் கொள்ளக் கூடிய ஒன்றாக மாறிவிடும்.

irir123
20th January 2015, 12:46 AM
valli or not - IR's answers are weird - they are that way because the interviewer has no clue what to ask and how to ask!
the questions are like asking 'what did you eat for breakfast today?''what did you eat last night?'
sappa questions

irir123
20th January 2015, 12:47 AM
இதுல என்னங்க டவுட்.. இவ்வளவு காலம் சினிமாவில் குப்பை கொட்டினால் எல்லோருமே இயக்குனர்கள்தான். சிவாஜி, எம்.ஜி.ஆர், கமல், ரஜினி போன்றவர்கள் கதை-திரைக்கதை-பாடல் உருவாக்கம் வடிவத்திலேயே பங்குக் கொண்டு தங்களுக்குத் தேவையான அளவு படத்தின் போக்கை அமைத்துக் கொள்வார்கள். நாளாக நாளாக இயக்கம் என்பது தானாகவே கிரகித்துக் கொள்ளக் கூடிய ஒன்றாக மாறிவிடும்.


neenga sonna madhiri IR sollavillai - romba azhuthamaa Rajini oru super directornu sollirukkaar

buggle
20th January 2015, 06:06 PM
Any update on the Mumbai function? Looks like RK attending, KH may attend

http://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/felicitation-ilaiyaraaja-rajinikanth-flies-mumbai-032819.html

Kimrep
20th January 2015, 07:34 PM
that is one weird interview (TOI) ...
not sure about this Mumbai function too.. afraid its gonna be yet another "IR is great, greater than great!!" talkfest by KH, RK etc... while I do agree with the sentiments, it is pretty annoying to just bring people on stage and have them say the same thing again and again. Kamal will recite the hey ram story again... Anyway, this is the first time someone new is organizing the function hope it gets structured in a way that has minimal talk and more music.

SVN
20th January 2015, 08:13 PM
The so-called celebration function may turn out to be a damp squib, for the following reasons:

1. Balki is doing this event/ promo on a shoe-string budget. So, it's not really a huge show involving thousands of spectators in a large stadium or a venue, open to 'masses'. It's a 'small scale' function held in a star hotel ballroom.

2. He is using this as a promo function for Shamibabh (Funnily enough the music label and production house have already released the songs on Youtube and Gaana.com a week earlier). Of all people, he is getting Dhanush to sing IR's older hits.. really? That's going to generate a greater awareness about IR's vast repertoire amongst the Hindi-speaking journos and news channels invited for the event?

3. These news channels will probably show a 15-second clipping of the 'event' tomorrow. Once again, their focus will be on the actor, not the composer or his music. At the most, they may show a short clip from Sadma, as a sample of IR's music.

I hope I am proven wrong.
Gowtham Menon, backed by the production house and Sony Music, organised a fabulous event with the release of Nee Thaane En Ponvasantham. Now, a similar event, with a carefully selected set of songs in a variety of Indian languages (and possibly the German song, "Ich Liebe Dich") performed by a live orchestra and prominent singers, with some sound bytes from eminent personalities, would be a true tribute to the man and his music.

PS: Indirectly, people are made to believe that Shamitabh is IR's 1000th film (although Balki has made a clarification), yet no news media is picking up the fact that this feat is rare and has not been achieved by any other MD.

SVN
20th January 2015, 08:18 PM
Another irritant that I hope will be avoided this time would be Kamal narrating the anecdote about how, "Inji Iduppazhagi" was born and comparing it with "Yeh Dil Diwana Hai". He keeps saying this ad nauseam!

krish244
20th January 2015, 11:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3slAVqVESI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj3WocqHY4E

Appears to be bits of pieces of what happened at the event (celebrating IR's 1000 movies) at Mumbai. The first one has some video snippets and the second one has some photos. Dont know if we will get to see the whole event (may not be as elaborate as NEPV .... still).

thanks,

Krishnan

buggle
21st January 2015, 12:37 AM
Thanks for sharing the link, not sure they performed any of his old hits

rajsekar
22nd January 2015, 07:37 PM
Times of India has plenty of photos about the event. Balki and producers have invited known Hindi film artists for the function - Gulzar, Anu Mallik, Bappi Lahiri, singers, etc.

http://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/ilayaraja-is-a-part-of-my-life-kamal-haasan/article6806303.ece?homepage=true&utm_source=MostPopular&utm_medium=Homepage&utm_campaign=WidgetPromo
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/music/news/Ilaiyaraaja-Amitabh-Bachchan-is-unbelievable/articleshow/45931443.cms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/music/news/Jaya-Bachchan-Gulzar-unveil-the-music-of-Shamitabh/articleshow/45963906.cms

I would expect that Maestro be felicitated for this big achievement by South Indian MD Association, presided over by all MDs from South India, especially Mellisai Mannar who currently holds the big record for maximum number of film scores. Rahman was felicitated by all MDs and the South India Association when he bagged the Oscars. Moreover Bala has promised to hold a similar function when his movie's (which is the 1000th edition of Raja) audio will be formally launched.

venkkiram
22nd January 2015, 10:56 PM
Times of India has plenty of photos about the event. Balki and producers have invited known Hindi film artists for the function - Gulzar, Anu Mallik, Bappi Lahiri, singers, etc.

http://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/ilayaraja-is-a-part-of-my-life-kamal-haasan/article6806303.ece?homepage=true&utm_source=MostPopular&utm_medium=Homepage&utm_campaign=WidgetPromo
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/music/news/Ilaiyaraaja-Amitabh-Bachchan-is-unbelievable/articleshow/45931443.cms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/music/news/Jaya-Bachchan-Gulzar-unveil-the-music-of-Shamitabh/articleshow/45963906.cms

I would expect that Maestro be felicitated for this big achievement by South Indian MD Association, presided over by all MDs from South India, especially Mellisai Mannar who currently holds the big record for maximum number of film scores. Rahman was felicitated by all MDs and the South India Association when he bagged the Oscars. Moreover Bala has promised to hold a similar function when his movie's (which is the 1000th edition of Raja) audio will be formally launched.

I think no one submitted any valid proof on paper with the move names listed. Its all propaganda so far by various icons. If you have solid proof, then share with us. Otherwise, Raja is the one and only MD achieves that feet so far.

rajsekar
23rd January 2015, 01:11 AM
Venkkiram - Thanks. We went through this discussion thread in March 2014, when Raaja hit the 1000th milestone. I also listed the comparative number for many MDs in India (copied below from my other thread). I am not belittling either Maestro or Mellissai Mannar's milestones here. Unfortunately, I am not aware of any official records or celebration for MSV's 1000 movie milestone. MSV's Wiki page seem to state that he crossed 1200 movies (including the combined movies with TK Ramamoorthy). Now Raaja and Director Baala too haven't denied the fact that MSV (along with TKR) has composed more than 1100 movies. It will be better for us to wait and see if South Indian Music Directors Association would release some firm numbers before formally announcing Raaja's name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._S._Viswanathan

List of Music Directors with 75+ movies:

- MSV - 1100
- Ilayaraaja - 1000
- Chakravarthy - 960+
- KV Mahadevan is 600
- Bappi Lahiri - 500
- Deva - 400+
- RD Burman - 331+
- G Devarajan - 300
- Jerry Amaldev - 300
- Johnson - 300+
- Hamsalekha - 300+
- Shyam - 300+
- Lakshmikant-Pyarelal - 250+
- Vidyasagar - 250+
- AR Rahman - 200+
- Kalyanji Anandji - 200+
- Shankar Jaikishan - 171
- Hemant Kumar - 138
- MM Keeravani - 140
- Sankar-Ganesh - 130+
- V Dakshinamoorthy - 125+
- Naushad - 100 (maximum number of Platinum, Golden and Silver Jubilee hits)
- Yuvan Shankar - 100+
- Himesh Reshammiya, Raj-Koti, D Imman, G Ramesh Naidu, SA Rajkumar - 75+

rajsekar
23rd January 2015, 04:39 AM
Venkkiram - Wikipedia count for MSV appears inflated. The exact filmography of MSV is not an official record, but MSV's official website which is maintained by MSV Fan club members shows the total film count (Tamil & other languages) as 667 (site link copied below). There are several questions in MSV Fan club forum regarding this number and no one has provided the correct answer. Hence our Maestro could be the first musician world-wide to cross 1000 music albums. As I said in the other thread, this is a "Mind Boggling" number to even think about!!!. Raaja is actually a music robot to churn out hits after hits. Thanks to our members "RR" and "mappi" for compiling Raaja's filmography list. It's awesome!!!.

http://www.msvtimes.com/journey/filmography.html

dochu
23rd January 2015, 08:06 AM
Being a fan of MSV, I don't think he crossed 1000 films.

IR is not getting world-wide recognition for the fact of 1000 films, is because there is no proper record. Unless the association does something, his achievement will stay within the confines of India.

hmohan
23rd January 2015, 09:12 AM
Venkkiram - Wikipedia count for MSV appears inflated. The exact filmography of MSV is not an official record, but MSV's official website which is maintained by MSV Fan club members shows the total film count (Tamil & other languages) as 667 (site link copied below). There are several questions in MSV Fan club forum regarding this number and no one has provided the correct answer. Hence our Maestro could be the first musician world-wide to cross 1000 music albums. As I said in the other thread, this is a "Mind Boggling" number to even think about!!!. Raaja is actually a music robot to churn out hits after hits. Thanks to our members "RR" and "mappi" for compiling Raaja's filmography list. It's awesome!!!.

http://www.msvtimes.com/journey/filmography.html

Even if we go by a simple mathematical calculation this can be proven wrong.
Assuming that MSV was dominating for 15 years and 50 films a year (which is huge number even to assume) it amounts to 750 + another 10 years and 20 films a year which is 200 more and this itself is lesser than 1000 films.
Highlight is once SPB mentioned in an interview that MSV has done close to 2000 films and even MSV used to tell that he has done around 1200 films. I guess they are assuming that MSV would have done so many films. While Raja crossing a figure of 40 films a year most of the times and being in industry for 40 years he has just touched the figure of 1000 films. So this number will be very difficult for any other MD to even think off.

By the way Raja's 1000 films are only direct films. If we include the dubbed films he has done around 1250 films. This is by all means is a humongous achievement

sivasub
25th January 2015, 10:56 PM
a 30 second trailer of Touring Talkies...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_U88FscTY

sivasub
26th January 2015, 03:29 AM
Amitabh Bachchan singing National Anthem....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r41BmFFpCSI

sivasub
26th January 2015, 05:27 PM
who recorded it?


http://www.spectralhues.com/entertainment/bollywood/2015/01/shamitabh-unconventional-combo-unfolding-surprises/

The song doesn`t have any background music and it was shot on Saturday at the Tagore monument named Jorasanko Thakurbari. At one of the press conferences, Bachchan said, “We went to music director Adesh Srivastava’s studio in Mumbai who felt it (the anthem) does not require any music.” The decision of including our national anthem in the film was not pre-planned but just taken a few days ago

krish244
29th January 2015, 12:17 PM
Article about Shruti Hassan. Has references to IR. It wrongly credits IR for "Chachi 420".


http://www.mumbaimirror.com/entertainment/music/When-silence-is-the-song/articleshow/46050677.cms

"..."This time my father was not involved but Rajini sir was. The tune is a remixed version of a'80s track, Asaiya kathula composed by Raja sir for Johnny which starred Rajini sir in a double role opposite Sridevi. The song was a huge hit back then and it felt special recreating such an iconic song from Tamil cinema 35 years later, for a Hindi film. The tune has been restructured for today by making it more robust and layered," says Shruti...She has the throw and the range and the way she pronounces Sannata is fabulous. No other singer could have pulled off this song, Raja sir was categorical that this was the voice he wanted," he says. The recording was just half a day's work at Ilayaraja's sprawling studio in Chennai which has a series of booths but also a huge hall where you can record with a string quartet. "After recording in matchbox size cubicles, it was wonderful to go back to this old school studio in Chennai and record a song under the baton of my first composer," Shruti smiles. And unlike her earlier song for Tevar, Joganiyan, Sannata was a song right up her alley. "They wanted me to sound like myself. The pitch was high, but within my range. I just had to ensure that I was able to translate Raja sir's vision musically," she says...Swanand points out that you don't need singers and song writer when the hero is mute and his song is silence... Sannata. "It was great fun jamming with Balki and Raja sir who I have worked with earlier in Paa. He's an institution in himself who pays minute attention to words, nuances and tonality. I came up with Piddly because of him. I had started out with the word Alam Ara but he insisted he wanted something small and threw me some Tamil words, one of which was idli from which Piddly came about," informs Swanand..."

thanks,

Krishnan

buggle
1st February 2015, 11:04 PM
http://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/isai-the-movie-create-controvarcy-033011.html

Anyone watched this movie?? just curious to know what he really showed in that...not sure it is worth it discuss SJ Surya movies here, but just because he wanted to gain some attention he used IR-ARR

SVN
2nd February 2015, 09:42 PM
A friend who endured this torture of a movie said, "Thank the dear Lord, this is SAC's last attempt at a movie.

When acts of revenge amount to the villains tricked into drinking urine and eating faeces, you can imagine the quality of this movie! He said the only saving grace was the BGM. How did Ilaiyaraja agree to score music for this Sh"itty (literally) film?"

kr
3rd February 2015, 07:47 AM
I think its another attempt under the cloak of "humility" that ARR has used his handyman to belittle Raja. But I think God has devised things perfectly - just when a low life like Surya's movie comes out, Raja is faciliated by Amitabh, Kamal and Rajni and grabs national attention. Poetic justice....


Raja's genius is appreciated by the likes of Semmangudi, Dr. Balamurali Krishna, TVG, SPB. Its just this lowlife SJ Surya does not understand the impact Raja made to the lives of millions of people like us and does not understand that he has not acheived anything in his life to do such a movie. Its also a shame that no one in the industry stands up and takes on a lowlife like him. One can understand why ARR will not do that - he may even have indirectly funded this crap. Actually Praksah Raj deserves a lot of credit for walking out of this movie.

In fact, that lowlife SJ Surya playing ARR is a bigger insult if I was ARR than a desperate attempt by a biased pig to please his boss ARR


http://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/isai-the-movie-create-controvarcy-033011.html

Anyone watched this movie?? just curious to know what he really showed in that...not sure it is worth it discuss SJ Surya movies here, but just because he wanted to gain some attention he used IR-ARR

krish244
8th February 2015, 10:40 AM
IR visits sets of "Thara Thappattai" and "Merku Thodarchi Maalai":

http://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/ilaiyaraaja-visits-thaarai-thappattai-shooting-spot-033066.html

http://tamil.filmibeat.com/shooting-spot/ilaiyaraaja-visits-merku-thodarchi-malai-shooting-spot-033121.html

thanks,

Krishnan

irir123
10th February 2015, 02:49 AM
here is BR's take on ISAI - https://baradwajrangan.wordpress.com/2015/01/30/isai-lots-of-problems-but-the-preposterous-plot-pulls-you-through/

".. In one of the couple’s early scenes, Shiva wraps his hand around Jennifer’s waist and wiggles his fingers as if playing the keyboard. In response, she closes her eyes and reaches the higher octaves, if you catch my drift. Then he commands her to place her hand on her chest and asks, “Ulla enna irukku?” When she flounders for an answer, he supplies one: “Idhayam.” If you insist. And if you like this sort of thing, you’ll love the plot point in which he’s bitten by a snake in a forest and she stumbles into him (she’s a local) and begins to administer medicine by straddling his legs and pouring the potion into his mouth. To counter the bitter taste, she soaks her fingers in honey and he sucks on them and… You don’t have to look any further if you wondered what it’d be like if a horny, hyper-imaginative teenage boy wrote a Penthouse letter...."

Russellmtp
10th February 2015, 06:28 AM
"isai" is among the worst movies to ever hit theaters. One wonders why someone like Sathyaraj would choose to associate himself with this movie. Forget the fact that it was scripted by one of the most twisted, warped, horny minds in the industry. The movie itself is so boring, stupid, crappy, unnecessary waste of time, effort, and money. Yes, kudos to Prakashraj for walking out of this movie. But, to even insinuate that Rahman has got anything to do with this movie is a cheap shot by any standards. One must remember that Rahman refused to compose for this movie and suggested SJ Surya to compose himself (many music fans are, rightfully, upset at Rahman for this suggestion but that's a different topic).

I wonder why Raja (or Rahman) fans would even choose to give any importance to this movie by discussing it. It doesn't deserve any discussion. If the director indeed had Raja and Rahman in mind while penning the script, then as they used to say "sooriyanai paarthu naai kuraippathu"kku samam.

dochu
10th February 2015, 03:05 PM
The other day, in one of the tamil TV channel, he had an interview - the best PR stunt I have seen. Compere was praising SJ every other word, while SJ himself praised how hard the work was. And ofcourse, there was few 'staged' live phone calls, I guess.

I would not blame him and the producers. They are business men, simply catering to the needs of the public. Public should be blamed. Because their twisted minds are looking for such things.

If public is eager for a thiruvilayadal remake movie, then we see only such things. It is all demand and supply. And people are eager to make money in anyway.

krish244
12th February 2015, 10:58 PM
Mineral water to be released with IR name (picture??):

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/Salman-Khan-and-Ilaiyaraja-to-now-sell-mineral-water/articleshow/46212468.cms

"...Meanwhile, South India's music maestro Ilaiyaraja too has given his consent to the company to launch the mineral water under his name. Rumours are rife that while the company is paying Salman about Rs 15 crore a year for the association, they are paying about Rs 5 crore to Ilaiyaaraja...."

thanks,

Krishnan

sivasub
20th February 2015, 08:13 AM
IR speech - felicitation of TVG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExN_14sEvKw

krish244
23rd February 2015, 10:37 AM
IR to participate in a event which is a tribute to Mandolin U Shrinivas:

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/tribute-concert-for-mandolin-shrinivas/article6924119.ece

thanks,

Krishnan

krish244
24th February 2015, 12:55 PM
There are plans to have a big felicitation for IR on completing 1000 movies:

http://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/big-felicitation-awaiting-maestro-ilaiyaraaja-033324.html

"...அவருக்கு ஒட்டுமொத்த திரையுலகம் சார்பில் மிகப்பெரிய விழாவாக எடுக்கத் திட்டமிட்டிருக்கிறோம். இந்தியாவில் இதுபோன்ற ஒரு விழா நடத்தியிருக்க முடியாது என்கிற அளவுக்கு அது பிரம்மாண்டமாக இருக்கும்," என்றார்."

thanks,

Krishnan

krish244
24th February 2015, 07:22 PM
Video of IR at TFPCs food for thought event:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m41YeipFv94

thanks,

Krishnan

krish244
4th March 2015, 07:56 AM
Update on royalty case that IR had filed. Judgement in favour of IR.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/chennai/Relief-for-Ilaiyaraja-in-Music-Royalty-Case/2015/03/04/article2696547.ece

thanks,

Krishnan

venkkiram
4th March 2015, 08:40 AM
Update on royalty case that IR had filed. Judgement in favour of IR.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/chennai/Relief-for-Ilaiyaraja-in-Music-Royalty-Case/2015/03/04/article2696547.ece

thanks,

Krishnan

Good news. Let Raja appoint a reliable person/company to manage his creations and market in a seamless way in today's digital music market.

krish244
4th March 2015, 10:48 AM
Looks like IR is contemplating on giving the rights of his work to Tamil Nadu Producer Council:

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/telugu/article/126931.html

thanks,

Krishnan

krish244
4th March 2015, 02:36 PM
Came across this. It appears that no FM or tv channels can air IR songs without acquiring rights from either IR or producers council. I know this intellectual property was applicable for all forms of unauthorized distribution (and/or reproduction??) including CD, digital, FM, TV, etc, but I am wondering if making it strictly applicable for FM channels and TV channels will actually affect IR popularity (because we may not hear/see IR songs on TV/FM till TV/FM gets rights for the same)?

http://www.thehindu.com/features/cinema/ilayaraja-cracks-the-whip-on-fm-television-channels/article6958765.ece

thanks,

Krishnan

dochu
5th March 2015, 04:15 PM
Came across this. It appears that no FM or tv channels can air IR songs without acquiring rights from either IR or producers council.

It is quite a late move from IR. In tamil there is a saying that goes on like catching a tail rather than something....
I guess he must be seeing how 'smart' the latest composers are to 'mint' money from their 'mostly' copied productions in various ways like royalty, cell phone tunes etc.
Those days, such awareness was less and he didn't care much. Especially, it happens when you tune more 55 films/year.

Now everybody seems to make lot of money out of his intellectual property. Some companies abroad have even marketed mp3 of songs.
As much as I resent such practice, I also sympathize with IR. He can't rectify this.

I don't think he can stop any TV channel, radio station etc from broadcasting his songs. Even today afternoon (5th Mar 15, 92.7 FM station) I was listening to 3 hours of IR songs. If IR tries to curb these activities, he will most likely face stiff opposition and also resentment from public.

And ofcourse, such blockage would be 'unheard of' in the history of Indian film music, I guess.

JamesDap
6th March 2015, 08:14 AM
He's right on principles to assert his IPR and it doesn't matter if it would dissuade radio stations from playing his music. This should have been done long ago anyway. As they say in Hindi, der aaye magar durust aaye.

krish244
6th March 2015, 06:13 PM
IR press meet about IPR judgement:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2g_cR_lft8

thanks,

Krishnan

krish244
7th March 2015, 02:18 PM
Rudramadevi BGM to be recorded at Hungary. Also, one song of movie "GAME" has been recorded...

"...It’s time to work. A ‘track’ singer is being trained while Sadhana Sargam chats with a friend. One song for Ramesh’s film has already been recorded in the voices of Karthik and Ramya. Another director is waiting to meet the maestro hoping he’ll like his ‘one line’. Time is scarce with Raja scheduled to leave for Hungary. He’ll be recording the background score of the ambitious ‘Rudramadevi’ which will take a fortnight. Ramesh waits for another melody to be recorded. ..."

http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/the-songs-brewing/article6966309.ece

thanks,

Krishnan

rajaramsgi
8th March 2015, 02:20 PM
sivasub: IR speech - felicitation of TVG
krish244: Video of IR at TFPCs food for thought event
krish244: IR press meet about IPR judgement:


நன்றி நண்பர்களே.. சமீப காலமாக மேடைகளில் அடிக்கடி தென்பட்ட காரணத்தாலோ என்னவோ, ராஜா சார் பேச்சிலும் தேறிவிட்டார் :-) அவர் பேச்சில் இப்போதெல்லாம் பிசிறில்லை. சொல்ல வருவதை தெளிவாய் சொல்வதோடு மட்டும் இல்லாமல், தத்துவங்களை குறைத்தும் பேசுகிறார். இப்படியே போனால் தேவலாம்.

rajsekar
8th March 2015, 11:13 PM
This High Court judgement and development has come after a long delayed period. A music composer who has released a world record number of music albums of more than 1000 is still an ordinary person whom anyone could mistake for a poor sadhu. Several years ago, Rahman mentioned in an interview on why he keeps increasing his fee for every film, he replied that producers and film world should give him whatever is worth for his composition including efforts by many musicians/ artists who toil several hours behind the scenes to finalize a song. Rahman specifically quoted that Raja Sir wasn't paid the market value for all his wonderful compositions and the industry should now start correcting this anomaly. He said that Raja Sir could have bought the entire state of Tamil Nadu with his music royalties. That's 100% true. Ilayaraja should be paid all the music royalties that's due to him.

Just listen to any internet radio channels worldwide, multiple stations playing Tamil, Malayalam, Telugu, Kannada songs, you will always find one Raaja's song being played 24x7x365. That's the power of this Sadhu. Based on my calculations (refer to my old thread in TFM), Ilayaraja's music royalty and number of albums sold (Cassettes, Vinyl and CDs) is valued than more than many world renowned musicians, including Michael Jackson and the current reigning music celebrity Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift, having sold over 40 million albums (27.1 million of them in the U.S. and 130 million single downloads), and is among the top five music artists who have sold the most digital music worldwide. Taylor Swift can dictate the royalties paid by top distributors like Pandora, Apple and Spotify. Here we have a Sadhu who has composed more than 1000 albums (in terms of album copies which is more than 40 million or 400 Lakhs) and trying to get music royalty from crooked distributors. This Man should be given the credit and royalty that's due to him.

rajaramsgi
11th March 2015, 02:33 AM
Forgive me if this was already shared here.... Oru Melisaana Kodu film poojai...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGy-ly400Wo

rajaramsgi
11th March 2015, 03:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVY1mIMZidM

மித்ரி பின்னணி இசையாம்... ஒரு நிமிடத்துக்கு குறைவாய் இங்கு கொடுக்கப்பட்டிருக்கும் இந்த ஒளியும் ஒலியும் உங்க மனதை சுண்டி இழுக்கவில்லையா?

krish244
12th March 2015, 10:52 AM
IR to compose music for new movie directed by Naveen Raghavan (director of "Majna pai") *ing Vikram Prabhu. In effect, he will be composing for the 3rd generation (Sivaji Ganesan, Prabhu and Vikram Prabhu). He has given many hits for the first two gen (more so for Prabhu). Hope it is something special for Vikram Prabhu as well.

http://www.indiaglitz.com/illayaraja-does-it-for-three-generations--tamil-news-127517

thanks,

Krishnan

rajsekar
16th March 2015, 06:32 PM
Vairamuthu's interview in "The Hindu" by Srinivasa Ramanujam. Oh! Srinivasa!!!! why do you even ask Vairamuthu about Raaja? Everyone, including Vairamuthu & Raaja, know well that they cannot work together after all the back and forth between them. Let's focus on what's best for each one of them!!!

http://www.thehindu.com/features/metroplus/vairamuthu-on-the-changing-shades-of-love/article6999568.ece

Your differences of opinion with music composer Ilaiyaraaja are is well-known. But you’ve now recently teamed up with his son, Yuvan Shankar Raja, for the first time recently in Idam Porul Eval. How did that happen?

Lingusamy, the producer, is a good friend of Yuvan. And, director Seenuramasamy has worked with me in the past. It was these two who brought us together. In fact, Yuvan has asked me in the past to write for him but I always told him that it was too early. Now, I felt the environment was apt.

Does this mean we can see you combining with Ilaiyaraaja too?

Oh, please, let’s not go there…

Is that a no?

Well, I don’t know… let’s see.

irir123
19th March 2015, 01:54 AM
read somewhere that Agilan (of Agi music) is unhappy with IR's treatment of him - any clue as to what happened?

K
20th March 2015, 04:12 PM
From Agilan's Blog

http://meedpu.blogspot.in/2015/03/blog-post.html

https://www.facebook.com/ragav.ragu/posts/10153107881118187

Fliflo
21st March 2015, 06:36 PM
There is a reason why Agilan deleted his blog. Reading this one will understand

http://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/the-real-face-agi-music-agilan-who-cheated-ilaiyaraaja-032266.html

K
22nd March 2015, 12:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnv-n7V9PXA

Composing For Rudhrammadevi Background score(symphony orchestra)

sivasub
22nd March 2015, 01:09 PM
First song of Rudramadevi.... looks like Shreya is singing this.... a soft number...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytt-e0XidsU

sivasub
22nd March 2015, 01:12 PM
The second one seems to be sung by Hariharan and Sadhana Sargam...

Unable to identify the lady singer in the third song... some raunchy number

thumburu
23rd March 2015, 10:10 PM
Hi sivasub, don't get surprised if I tell you that the raunchy ? singer is indeed Chitra.

rajsekar
28th March 2015, 07:23 PM
I am still hoping that Raja and Rahman would collaborate on an international album - musical film, symphony or joint performance. All great composers have collaborated and released hit albums internationally. Their collaboration may not happen in Tamil films, given the current mediocrity of new MDs/ Directors and hopeless musical albums which we hear. To top it all, we have our Tamil film distributors who went on a begging strike to get refund for their investment losses from Rajini. I am shocked that Rajini refunded 10 crores to these crooked distributors on a humanitarian basis. Couldn't Rajini donate a part of his Rupees 10 Crores to KM Music School, setting up a Film Academy, fund few small budget films with good story lines/ casting for upcoming directors, and several other good causes?

http://www.thehindu.com/features/metroplus/i-live-in-the-now/article7040418.ece

It’s well-known that you played for Ilaiyaraaja before branching out individually. Are you still in touch with him?

The last I met him was at a music function. See, when I’m abroad, I bump into other composers all the time — at screenings or events. It’s unfortunate that Chennai isn’t that much of a social place for me; I’m usually caught up in my own work. And then, there’s family, the school… there’s not much social time. We have the respect in our hearts.

irir123
29th March 2015, 10:34 PM
collaboration - romba kashtam

Russellmtp
30th March 2015, 11:22 PM
collaboration - romba kashtam

கஷ்டம் இல்லை. நடக்காது:roll:

மெல்லிசை மன்னரும் இசைஞானியும் சேர்ந்து இசையமைத்த படங்களுக்கு, நான் கேள்விப்பட்டது, எம்.எஸ்.வி மெட்டமைப்பாராம். இளையராஜா ஆர்க்கெஸ்டிரேஷன்/அரேஞ்மென்ட் செய்வாராம். இருவரது பாணியும் வேறு என்றாலும் இது ஒரு இயல்பான விஷயமாக அமைந்தது. அதோடு மட்டுமில்லாமல் இருவரது ரசிகர்களும் இரு மேதைகளையும் ஏற்றுக் கொண்ட ஒரு காலகட்டமது. ஆனால் ரஹ்மான் கதை வேறு. நன்றாக இருந்தாலும், இந்த கூட்டு முயற்சி இப்போது நடக்காமல் இருப்பதே நல்லது.

venkkiram
30th March 2015, 11:53 PM
கஷ்டம் இல்லை. நடக்காது:roll:

மெல்லிசை மன்னரும் இசைஞானியும் சேர்ந்து இசையமைத்த படங்களுக்கு, நான் கேள்விப்பட்டது, எம்.எஸ்.வி மெட்டமைப்பாராம். இளையராஜா ஆர்க்கெஸ்டிரேஷன்/அரேஞ்மென்ட் செய்வாராம். இருவரது பாணியும் வேறு என்றாலும் இது ஒரு இயல்பான விஷயமாக அமைந்தது. அதோடு மட்டுமில்லாமல் இருவரது ரசிகர்களும் இரு மேதைகளையும் ஏற்றுக் கொண்ட ஒரு காலகட்டமது. ஆனால் ரஹ்மான் கதை வேறு. நன்றாக இருந்தாலும், இந்த கூட்டு முயற்சி இப்போது நடக்காமல் இருப்பதே நல்லது.

வேண்டுமென்றால் இப்படி செய்யலாம். ரஹ்மானே ராஜாவிடம் சென்று ஒரு ஆல்பம் செய்வோம். உலகளவில் கொண்டுபோகலாம். ஆனால் சேர்ந்து செய்யத் தேவையில்லை. ஆல்பத்திற்கான ஒவ்வொரு தீம்களையும் உங்களுக்கு எப்படித் தோணுதோ அப்படி இசையமைத்துக் கொடுங்கள். அதே தீம்களுக்கு நானும் தனியே இசையமைத்து ரெண்டையும் ஒரே தொகுப்பில் சேர்த்து வெளியிட்டு விடலாம். ரெண்டுபேருக்குமே இசைக்கு தனியான தளம். கொஞ்ச வருடம் போகட்டும். இதெல்லாம் நடக்கும் என நினைக்கிறேன்.

irir123
31st March 2015, 09:14 AM
venkkiram - அப்படி நடக்கும் வாய்ப்பு ரொம்ப கம்மி - ரெண்டு பெரும் வெவ்வேறு style of working plus approach to music as well as professionalism.

venkkiram
1st April 2015, 08:33 AM
அன்னக்கிளி முதல் இன்று வரையிலான இசை ஞானியின் திரையிசைப் பாடல்களை ஆவணப்படுத்தும் முயற்சியில் அன்பர் இசை இறங்கியிருக்கிறார். கடினமான வேலை. வெற்றிகரமாக முடிப்பார் என்ற நம்பிக்கை இருக்கிறது. இதுவரை வந்த ஒவ்வொரு பதிவிலும் அவரது அர்ப்பணிப்பினை பார்த்து வியக்க முடிகிறது. வாசிக்கும் அன்பர்கள் அத்தளத்திலேயே படங்கள், பாடல்கள் பற்றிய சொந்தக் கருத்துக்களை பதிந்து உரையாடலாம்.

http://irbow.blogspot.in/2015/03/blog-post.html

dochu
1st April 2015, 12:33 PM
வேண்டுமென்றால் இப்படி செய்யலாம். ரஹ்மானே ராஜாவிடம் சென்று ஒரு ஆல்பம் செய்வோம். உலகளவில் கொண்டுபோகலாம். ஆனால் சேர்ந்து செய்யத் தேவையில்லை. ஆல்பத்திற்கான ஒவ்வொரு தீம்களையும் உங்களுக்கு எப்படித் தோணுதோ அப்படி இசையமைத்துக் கொடுங்கள். அதே தீம்களுக்கு நானும் தனியே இசையமைத்து ரெண்டையும் ஒரே தொகுப்பில் சேர்த்து வெளியிட்டு விடலாம். ரெண்டுபேருக்குமே இசைக்கு தனியான தளம். கொஞ்ச வருடம் போகட்டும். இதெல்லாம் நடக்கும் என நினைக்கிறேன்.

Venkkiram sir, definitely IR should not collaborate with ARR. Beyond music, personalities don't match at all. I will feel that IR's music will get adulterated if that happens. IR's music is pure and soulful.

dochu
1st April 2015, 12:34 PM
அன்னக்கிளி முதல் இன்று வரையிலான இசை ஞானியின் திரையிசைப் பாடல்களை ஆவணப்படுத்தும் முயற்சியில் அன்பர் இசை இறங்கியிருக்கிறார். கடினமான வேலை. வெற்றிகரமாக முடிப்பார் என்ற நம்பிக்கை இருக்கிறது. இதுவரை வந்த ஒவ்வொரு பதிவிலும் அவரது அர்ப்பணிப்பினை பார்த்து வியக்க முடிகிறது. வாசிக்கும் அன்பர்கள் அத்தளத்திலேயே படங்கள், பாடல்கள் பற்றிய சொந்தக் கருத்துக்களை பதிந்து உரையாடலாம்.

http://irbow.blogspot.in/2015/03/blog-post.html

My heartfelt best wishes for the initiative. It is very pleasing to see old pictures too.

Irene Hastings
1st April 2015, 05:14 PM
MSV-IR combo matched becaz MSV's core strength is composing tunes -melody champ . While IR is king on orchestration . SO it matched seamlessly.

I think many MSV fans love his songs purely for the lilting tunes.

IR-ARR - well , both are good at orchestration. So, it may not work out together.

venkkiram
1st April 2015, 06:10 PM
MSV-IR combo matched becaz MSV's core strength is composing tunes -melody champ . While IR is king on orchestration . SO it matched seamlessly.

I think many MSV fans love his songs purely for the lilting tunes.

IR-ARR - well , both are good at orchestration. So, it may not work out together.

It's kind of sweeping statement to me if you use "good" and keep both of them in same plane when it comes to orchestration. With the body of work Raja doing so far in composing, Raja is the king of music and the predecessors and successors of Raja are clearly not in the game.

Russellmtp
2nd April 2015, 09:10 AM
It's kind of sweeping statement to me if you use "good" and keep both of them in same plane when it comes to orchestration. With the body of work Raja doing so far in composing, Raja is the king of music and the predecessors and successors of Raja are clearly not in the game.

Gosh, this is too much. So anyone posting in this thread has to qualify their statements with an introduction that Raja is the king of music and the rest are all useless? Irene's comment was innocuous and I am fairly certain he didn't mean any disrespect to Raja. Raja may be king of music to you (and million others, me included, probably Irene too) but that doesn't mean everyone should hold that opinion and disrespect (or at least put down) every other composer.

And what about your inane post that Rahman should request Raja for a collaboration? Pray tell me, why would/should Rahman do that? No Rahman fan would want this collaboration either. They are both doing good for themselves as is.

Irene Hastings
2nd April 2015, 10:54 AM
It's kind of sweeping statement to me if you use "good" and keep both of them in same plane when it comes to orchestration. With the body of work Raja doing so far in composing, Raja is the king of music and the predecessors and successors of Raja are clearly not in the game.

If I had put " outstanding " , Your ego would have got satisfied may be !!

Well. I had also mentioned above that IR is the champion in orchestration even while U R coming out with an emotional outburst ! And IR doesnt need my certification on his greatness . Otherwise, nobody can survive for 1000 movies and 5 decades !

Look. Let me reiterate that IR is indeed a champ in orchestration but it doesnt mean that ARR is by no means , an inferior guy on orchestration !

U may worship your Lord but give recognition to other talents too.

And talking on orchestration, IR is very strong on Violin section which ARR also matches .

Hope U have heard the Violin interludes of Kandu konden song . Just awesome and one of its kind !

sudhakarg
2nd April 2015, 01:49 PM
The IR // MSV combo worked well fundamentally because IR was also a fan of MSV. He openly admits to his tunes being influenced by MSV "Anna". IR holds MSV in the highest pedestal. Not sure if Rahman shares the same feelings. May be I'm harping on something that happened too long ago.., but I recollect a Rahman interview where the interviewer asked "illaiyaraajavidam ungaLukku pidichcha vishayam".., and then he answering "Punctuality"!!. When he was pressed hard to state one song he liked, he mentioned "ingi iduppazhaga". Based purely on the public image, I think their respective competitive instincts takes over precedence in their relationship.

hmohan
2nd April 2015, 07:34 PM
Rahman and Orchestration - news to me.

// IR is very strong on Violin section which ARR also matches //
IR's string section orchestration is being compared with ARR that too a statement like he can match IR.

venkkiram
2nd April 2015, 07:44 PM
If I had put " outstanding " , Your ego would have got satisfied may be !!

Well. I had also mentioned above that IR is the champion in orchestration even while U R coming out with an emotional outburst ! And IR doesnt need my certification on his greatness . Otherwise, nobody can survive for 1000 movies and 5 decades !

Look. Let me reiterate that IR is indeed a champ in orchestration but it doesnt mean that ARR is by no means , an inferior guy on orchestration !

U may worship your Lord but give recognition to other talents too.

And talking on orchestration, IR is very strong on Violin section which ARR also matches .

Hope U have heard the Violin interludes of Kandu konden song . Just awesome and one of its kind !

சுத்தம். உங்களது சென்றபதிவில் இரண்டு நபர்களையும் ஒரே குடையில் சொன்னதுபோலவே இங்கே வயலின் விஷயத்திலும். நல்லாயிருக்கு சார் ஒங்களோட இசை கேட்கும் அனுபவமும், மதிப்பீடும். இனி நான் உங்களோடு இந்த விஷயத்தில் உரையாடுவது நேரவிரயம்.

venkkiram
2nd April 2015, 07:46 PM
Gosh, this is too much. So anyone posting in this thread has to qualify their statements with an introduction that Raja is the king of music and the rest are all useless? Irene's comment was innocuous and I am fairly certain he didn't mean any disrespect to Raja. Raja may be king of music to you (and million others, me included, probably Irene too) but that doesn't mean everyone should hold that opinion and disrespect (or at least put down) every other composer.

And what about your inane post that Rahman should request Raja for a collaboration? Pray tell me, why would/should Rahman do that? No Rahman fan would want this collaboration either. They are both doing good for themselves as is.

எனக்கு மற்றவர்கள் எப்படி நினைத்துக் கொள்வார்கள் என்பதில் கவனமில்லை. என் அகராதியில் ஒரு இளையவர் ஒரு மூத்தவரை அணுகுவதுதான் சரியெனப் பட்டது. மேலும் எதிர்காலத்தில் இருவரும் இணைவது என்பது ஒரு கற்பனை மற்றும் விருப்பம். அதன் அடிப்படையில் மட்டுமே பதிவுகள் ஆரம்பித்ததால் நான் எனது கருத்தினை அவ்வாறு வைத்தேன்.

hmohan
2nd April 2015, 08:01 PM
Just for the argument sake what is the problem in collaborating if two people are strong in one area ?
Now that IR is great in Orchestration does not mean that he is any less in giving tunes. If at all if Rahman is good in so called string section or Orchestration let him take care of the orchestration and IR handle the tunes or let them make some instrumental album :-D

venkkiram
2nd April 2015, 08:08 PM
இரு இசையமைப்பாளர்கள் இணைவது, அதையொட்டிய நமது கற்பனைகளோடு மட்டுமே நிறுத்திக் கொள்வோம். திறமைகளை, எட்டிய உயரங்களை பற்றி பலமுறை உரையாடல் நடத்தி விட்டாகிவிட்டது. அப்படி உங்களுக்கு உண்மையிலேயே ஒவ்வொருவரையும் ஒப்பிட்டு உங்கள் ஆசையை தீர்த்துக் கொள்ளவேண்டும் என்றால், இசையமைப்பாளர்களை ஆழ உணர்ந்து, பலரது கேட்கும் அனுபவங்களை உள்வாங்கி முடிவுக்கு வரவும். ராஜாவின் இசைஆளுமைகளைப் பற்றி திரு ரவி நடராஜன் இணையத்தில் பலப்பல செறிவான கட்டுரைகளை பதித்திருக்கிறார். "ஏன் இன்னொரு இளையராஜா இனி உருவாகவேப் போவதில்லை!" என்ற தலைப்பில் அமைந்த பதிவுகளில் முடிவுரையாக இளையராஜாவை Great Lakeகுடன் மிக அழகாக ஒப்பிட்டு இசை சூழ்நிலையியல் பற்றி எழுதியிருக்கிறார்.

http://geniusraja.blogspot.com/2014/09/will-there-ever-be-another-ilayaraja.html

Russellmtp
2nd April 2015, 09:02 PM
எனக்கு மற்றவர்கள் எப்படி நினைத்துக் கொள்வார்கள் என்பதில் கவனமில்லை. என் அகராதியில் ஒரு இளையவர் ஒரு மூத்தவரை அணுகுவதுதான் சரியெனப் பட்டது. மேலும் எதிர்காலத்தில் இருவரும் இணைவது என்பது ஒரு கற்பனை மற்றும் விருப்பம். அதன் அடிப்படையில் மட்டுமே பதிவுகள் ஆரம்பித்ததால் நான் எனது கருத்தினை அவ்வாறு வைத்தேன்.

மற்றவர்கள் என்ன நினைத்து கொள்வார்கள் என்பதில் கவனம் செலுத்தி இங்கே பதிவிடுதல் சரியான விவாதங்களுக்கு வழிவகுக்காது. ஐரீனும் மற்றவர்கள் என்ன நினைப்பார்கள் என்று நினைத்து பதிவிடவில்லை. ஆனால் நீங்கள் அவர் என்ன கூறியிருக்க வேண்டும் என்று கூறுவதுதான் பிரச்சனையே.

இளையவர்கள் மூத்தவர்களை அணுக வேண்டும் என்பது சரிதான். ஆனால் அதற்கான அவசியம் என்ன வந்தது? உங்களது விருப்பம் அது என்றால் சரி. அது போல் மற்றவர்களும் அவர்களது விருப்பத்தையும் கருத்தையும் தெரிவிக்கின்றனர். இதில் என்ன பிரச்சனை?

ரவி நடராஜன் எழுதிய பதிவை இங்கே குறிப்பிட்டதற்கு நன்றி. ஆனால் யார் இந்த ரவி நடராஜன்? இவர் நினைப்பது அனைவருக்கும் பொருந்துமா? இசையை ஏதாவது அளவுகோல் கொண்டு அளப்பதே என்னை பொறுத்தவரை அநாகரீகம். அதற்காக அமைப்பது அல்ல இசை. ஒவ்வொருவருக்கும் ஒவ்வொரு இசை வடிவம் பாதிப்பை ஏற்படுத்தியிருக்கும். ஐரீனுக்கு "கண்டுகொண்டேன்" பாடல் பிடித்திருக்கிறது. அவரது பார்வையில் அது ஒரு சிறந்த இசை கோர்வையாக படுகிறது. உங்களுக்கு படவில்லை என்றால் மகிழ்ச்சி. அதற்கு ஏன் அவரது இசை கேட்கும் அனுபவத்தை விமர்சிக்க வேண்டும்?

வாலி ரங்கராஜனாக இருந்து வெல்ல இயலாமல் ஊர் செல்ல எத்தனித்த போது "மயக்கமா கலக்கமா" பாட்டை கேட்டாராம். அதன் பிறகு முடிவை மாற்றி பிறகு வென்றாராம். வள்ளுவனை படிக்காதவர் அல்ல வாலி. வள்ளுவன் கூறாததையா கண்ணதாசன் கூறிவிட்டான்? அந்த நேரத்தில் அது ஒரு பாதிப்பை அவருக்கு ஏற்படுத்தியிருந்தது. அதனால் அதுதான் சிறந்த பாடல் என்று அர்த்தமில்லை. ஏனென்றால் அனைவருக்கும் அந்த பாதிப்பை அந்த பாடல் ஏற்படுத்தியிருக்க வேண்டியதுமில்லை.

எத்தனையோ சிறந்த இசை கோர்வைகளை இளையராஜா இசையமைத்திருந்தாலும், எனக்குள் ஒரு பாதிப்பை ஏற்படுத்தி இன்று வரை என்னை கட்டிப்போட்டிருப்பது "இதயம்" திரைப்படத்தின் இசைதான். இசையை விரும்பி கேட்க ஆரம்பித்த காலத்தில் கேட்டதினால் இருக்கலாம். அப்போது எனது வயது காரனமாக இருக்கலாம். ஆனால் எனக்கு அதுதான் மிகவும் பிடித்தது. இந்த அனுபவத்தை எல்லாம் விளக்க முடியுமா? இதனால் தான் இசையை அளக்க முடியாது, அளக்க வேண்டிய அவசியமில்லை என்கிறேன். அதனால் எனது இசை கேட்கும் அனுபவத்தை விமர்சிப்பது, மன்னிக்கவும், நாகரீகமல்ல*.

venkkiram
2nd April 2015, 09:22 PM
இளையவர்கள் மூத்தவர்களை அணுக வேண்டும் என்பது சரிதான். ஆனால் அதற்கான அவசியம் என்ன வந்தது? உங்களது விருப்பம் அது என்றால் சரி. அது போல் மற்றவர்களும் அவர்களது விருப்பத்தையும் கருத்தையும் தெரிவிக்கின்றனர். இதில் என்ன பிரச்சனை?

இது என்ன கேள்வி? ராஜாவும், ரஹ்மானும் இணைந்து சர்வதேச அளவில் ஒரு ஆல்பம் வெளியிடனும் என முதலில் கருத்தை பதிவு செய்தது திரு ராஜசேகர். நீங்க நடக்காது என எதிர்மறையாக சொன்னபோது, நான் நேர்மறையாக, "வேண்டுமென்றால் இப்படி செய்யலாம்" என இணைவதற்கான வாய்ப்புகளாக நான் கருதும் நிகழ்தகவுகளை பதித்தேன்.

venkkiram
2nd April 2015, 09:25 PM
ரவி நடராஜன் எழுதிய பதிவை இங்கே குறிப்பிட்டதற்கு நன்றி. ஆனால் யார் இந்த ரவி நடராஜன்? இவர் நினைப்பது அனைவருக்கும் பொருந்துமா? இசையை ஏதாவது அளவுகோல் கொண்டு அளப்பதே என்னை பொறுத்தவரை அநாகரீகம். அதற்காக அமைப்பது அல்ல இசை. ஒவ்வொருவருக்கும் ஒவ்வொரு இசை வடிவம் பாதிப்பை ஏற்படுத்தியிருக்கும். ஐரீனுக்கு "கண்டுகொண்டேன்" பாடல் பிடித்திருக்கிறது. அவரது பார்வையில் அது ஒரு சிறந்த இசை கோர்வையாக படுகிறது. உங்களுக்கு படவில்லை என்றால் மகிழ்ச்சி. அதற்கு ஏன் அவரது இசை கேட்கும் அனுபவத்தை விமர்சிக்க வேண்டும்?

நீங்களே இந்தப் பத்தியை இன்னொரு முறை படிக்கவும். உங்கள் கருத்தில் ஏற்படும் முரண்களை நீங்களே உணரலாம். வேறு ஒன்றும் சொல்வதற்கில்லை.

Russellmtp
2nd April 2015, 09:40 PM
நீங்களே இந்தப் பத்தியை இன்னொரு முறை படிக்கவும். உங்கள் கருத்தில் ஏற்படும் முரண்களை நீங்களே உணரலாம். வேறு ஒன்றும் சொல்வதற்கில்லை.

எனக்கு எந்த முரணும் தெரியவில்லை. வேண்டுமென்றால் தெளிவு படுத்த முயற்சிக்கிறேன். ஒரு அளவுகோல் கொண்டு அனைவருக்கும் அது பொருந்தும் என்று கருதுவது அநாகரீகம். ஒருவருக்கு சிறந்த இசையாக படுவது மற்றவருக்கும் சிறந்ததாக பட வேண்டும் என்று கட்டாயமில்லை.

Irene Hastings
3rd April 2015, 10:11 AM
சுத்தம். உங்களது சென்றபதிவில் இரண்டு நபர்களையும் ஒரே குடையில் சொன்னதுபோலவே இங்கே வயலின் விஷயத்திலும். நல்லாயிருக்கு சார் ஒங்களோட இசை கேட்கும் அனுபவமும், மதிப்பீடும். இனி நான் உங்களோடு இந்த விஷயத்தில் உரையாடுவது நேரவிரயம்.

Nanbare,

By quoting some other guy ( Ravi ) writings, if you wish to refer about IR, can I conclude that you have no idea on IR on your own !!?? I think when you started a series of Bhakti and IR , I raised a query for which you had no answer . And I could see that you have virtually discontinued your thoughts there. Does it mean that your knowledge on IR and Bhakti also is a vacuum ?? . I dont wish to insult you here. The emphasis is that ARR is by no way, inferior in handling of instruments.
I dont agree with your version of - Junior should approach a senior. Why, a follower of Ramana Maharishi should not look for levels to reach out to others when you are in pursuit of divine music . Enadhu udalum uyirum porulum , sakalam Ramanarpanam ... This is what Raja says . So friend, it will be great if the senior moves towards a Junior . When IR had worked with Gangai A , why not with ARR ?
If such a combination materialises, it will be a treat to fans.

JamesDap
3rd April 2015, 11:32 AM
The IR // MSV combo worked well fundamentally because IR was also a fan of MSV. He openly admits to his tunes being influenced by MSV "Anna". IR holds MSV in the highest pedestal. Not sure if Rahman shares the same feelings. May be I'm harping on something that happened too long ago.., but I recollect a Rahman interview where the interviewer asked "illaiyaraajavidam ungaLukku pidichcha vishayam".., and then he answering "Punctuality"!!. When he was pressed hard to state one song he liked, he mentioned "ingi iduppazhaga". Based purely on the public image, I think their respective competitive instincts takes over precedence in their relationship.


I agree cent per cent with this. This is the reason why such a collaboration will never materialise.

From the point of view of a fan's flights of fantasy, I would welcome such a collaboration, though. No, I don't think ARR can add anything to IR's music in terms of melody, harmony or rhythm. IR is way ahead in those departments and to consider Rahman his equal in orchestration is...well, I should rather not comment on such opinions. But ARR can certainly add a lot to IR's music in the production department. Production doesn't just mean recording. It means paying attention to minute details to build up a good fundamental base into the stuff that gets the masses roaring. As a parallel, Richard Carpenter of Carpenters borrowed many songs (legally), sometimes even ad jingles, but mostly songs composed by Burt Bacharach, Paul Williams and Leon Russell. It is not that he was a better musician than them (though his own compositions like I Need to Be in Love rivalled the ones he chose from those composers. But he knew much better how to build up a song into something big. If you at all happen to be familiar with Carpenters, listen to the original versions of Close to You and then the Carpenters version and feel the difference. The former will sound incredibly bland in comparison. This is also how Pink Floyd scored over more musically talented prog rock bands in the 70s; they just knew how to put music together better than everybody else.

It is not that IR lacks in the production department and Agni Natchathram in particular stands out for great production to complete masterful composition. But we are not in the 80s anymore and ARR can update his production such that a new generation of listeners can relate to it. Remember IR always operated out of Prasad Studios whereas ARR built his own studio and still produced better recorded music. So he knows things about production that IR does not. It is the trump card with which he ousted IR in the commercial sweepstakes. It would be interesting to see what IR's music would sound like in the hands of a master producer like ARR. Musically, no. ARR is already busy rehashing his earlier melodies and has been for some time, and that's without producing even half of IR's output. IR still brings out new dimensions of his music, new stylistic approaches after so many years. It's another matter if the public doesn't have the patience to listen and discern these differences any more and it's certainly not his fault.

thumburu
3rd April 2015, 12:18 PM
Fantastic and very insightful posts by sudhakarg and crimson king.

rajsekar
3rd April 2015, 08:03 PM
Good discussion points!!! Folks, we are not going to determine whether Raja & Rahman are going to collaborate in future. In most of the cases, it's the Producer or Director of a movie who is going to decide this collaboration issue. Maniratnam desired that Raja should score the music for his earlier project "Ponniyin Selvan" and he later wanted Rahman to work with Raja. The idea never took off since the project itself didn't get funding from producers. Moreover rumor mills said that Raja will not work with Mani anymore, though Suhasini and Raja are working closely on future international concerts. Suhasini recently confirmed this news in Hindu. "Ponniyin Selvan" is history now. MSV and Raja worked together because of a producer's request. In 1980, Raja, Shankar-Ganesh and KVM composed songs for "Kannil Theriyum Kathaigal" with super-duper songs. The duo Devaraj-Mohan of Annakili was the Director. "Naan Oru Ponoviyam Kanden" is a gold standard for Mohana raagam with three Platinum singers - SPB, Susheela and Janaki. In Western Music, just one single platinum song is considered a life-time achievement. Take Carlos Santana, "Black Magic Woman" song. It took many years for Santana to collaborate with Matchbox Twenty to deliver another Platinum/ Grammy hit. Here we have someone who has scored more than 1000 albums with several multi-platinum hits.

If someone comes up with funding and an idea for a movie/ album/ symphony, no one can stop Raja & Rahman to collaborate. Look at the number of popular jugalbandis and collaborations in Indian classical & western music. Collaboration brings out the best of each musician. Raja & Rahman can bring out a fusion album of classical Indian/ Hindustani & Western Vocals. The ideas are limitless and plenty of talented artists will die for such an opportunity. Let's hope that both Raja & Rahman fans will see that day in future!!!! As Rahman rightly said, their mutual respect is within their heart.

Russellmtp
3rd April 2015, 08:59 PM
I agree cent per cent with this. This is the reason why such a collaboration will never materialise.

From the point of view of a fan's flights of fantasy, I would welcome such a collaboration, though. No, I don't think ARR can add anything to IR's music in terms of melody, harmony or rhythm. IR is way ahead in those departments and to consider Rahman his equal in orchestration is...well, I should rather not comment on such opinions. But ARR can certainly add a lot to IR's music in the production department. Production doesn't just mean recording. It means paying attention to minute details to build up a good fundamental base into the stuff that gets the masses roaring. As a parallel, Richard Carpenter of Carpenters borrowed many songs (legally), sometimes even ad jingles, but mostly songs composed by Burt Bacharach, Paul Williams and Leon Russell. It is not that he was a better musician than them (though his own compositions like I Need to Be in Love rivalled the ones he chose from those composers. But he knew much better how to build up a song into something big. If you at all happen to be familiar with Carpenters, listen to the original versions of Close to You and then the Carpenters version and feel the difference. The former will sound incredibly bland in comparison. This is also how Pink Floyd scored over more musically talented prog rock bands in the 70s; they just knew how to put music together better than everybody else.

It is not that IR lacks in the production department and Agni Natchathram in particular stands out for great production to complete masterful composition. But we are not in the 80s anymore and ARR can update his production such that a new generation of listeners can relate to it. Remember IR always operated out of Prasad Studios whereas ARR built his own studio and still produced better recorded music. So he knows things about production that IR does not. It is the trump card with which he ousted IR in the commercial sweepstakes. It would be interesting to see what IR's music would sound like in the hands of a master producer like ARR. Musically, no. ARR is already busy rehashing his earlier melodies and has been for some time, and that's without producing even half of IR's output. IR still brings out new dimensions of his music, new stylistic approaches after so many years. It's another matter if the public doesn't have the patience to listen and discern these differences any more and it's certainly not his fault.

சொல்லிட்டாருப்பா ஜீனியஸ். இனி யாரும் ஒரு வார்த்தை பேச கூடாது. கிரிம்சன் கிங்கே சொல்லிட்டாருன்னா, அது உண்மையாதான் இருக்கும்.:-D இனி ரஹ்மானுக்கு கஷ்டம்தான். கிரிம்சன் கிங்கே சொல்லிட்டாருன்னா, இனி அவர் பாடு திண்டாட்டம்தான்.:-D

Re: collaboration, ஆணியே புடுங்க வேண்டாம். ரஹ்மானுக்கும் அது தேவையில்லை.

JamesDap
4th April 2015, 08:51 AM
thozhar, to be very honest with you, I didn't expect a different response from you. I am also not least surprised that you have conveniently sidestepped my vote in favour of a collaboration and highlighting Rahman's superiority in production to pick on something you can gripe about.

Now if, instead of indulging in veiled attacks on me, if you can actually articulate what's so original about tunes like Nenjukulle, Innum Konjam Neram or Pookale, I am all ears. I may or may not agree but at least that would be a discussion and I would get to hear a different perspective instead of this useless "with us or against us" posturing. IMO Rahman's tunes these days do not live up to the standards of even his B grade scores of earlier like Thenali. Where, really, is a melody like Swasame in his soundtracks today? To be fair, that happens to any composer with the passage of time. But at least Ilayaraja is still able to come up with a Sattru Munbu or Kalvane every once in a while. I don't see any risk taking at all in Rahman's music these days. It's very disappointing for me because in the 90s, his irreverence was what made him so compelling. So I find it boring to see him morph into a peddler of urban feel good music sorely lacking in adventure.

Vysar
4th April 2015, 07:10 PM
http://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/no-need-go-london-or-budapest-symphony-composing-says-ar-rahman-033910.html

Music4Ever
4th April 2015, 08:24 PM
thozhar, to be very honest with you, I didn't expect a different response from you. I am also not least surprised that you have conveniently sidestepped my vote in favour of a collaboration and highlighting Rahman's superiority in production to pick on something you can gripe about.

Now if, instead of indulging in veiled attacks on me, if you can actually articulate what's so original about tunes like Nenjukulle, Innum Konjam Neram or Pookale, I am all ears. I may or may not agree but at least that would be a discussion and I would get to hear a different perspective instead of this useless "with us or against us" posturing. IMO Rahman's tunes these days do not live up to the standards of even his B grade scores of earlier like Thenali. Where, really, is a melody like Swasame in his soundtracks today? To be fair, that happens to any composer with the passage of time. But at least Ilayaraja is still able to come up with a Sattru Munbu or Kalvane every once in a while. I don't see any risk taking at all in Rahman's music these days. It's very disappointing for me because in the 90s, his irreverence was what made him so compelling. So I find it boring to see him morph into a peddler of urban feel good music sorely lacking in adventure.

So your gripe is that you are missing the irreverence in the B-grade scores of the nineties that made it so compelling for you. Maybe there is still that ``irreverence" but you got used to it and need a stronger dose? More seriously, moongil thottam and medhuvaagathaan are good, IMO.

JamesDap
5th April 2015, 07:54 AM
Not just B Grade, overall his music was so irreverent in the 90s. It was like he said a big "f**** you" to the rules of the day. It was captured in the lyrics too a lot of times, Urvasi for example. Every Rahman soundtrack, or at least every major project of his, was looked forward to with anticipation because he would come up with something totally unexpected. I don't really get that anymore. It may sound unexpected to those who don't listen to any Western pop music at all but to me, songs like Aaromale or Adiye sound very, very generic and typical. Typical not even of Rahman but typical of the way such songs are written in the West. Same with Ladio for that matter. His fans have tried to argue that he is just composing for the situation. But he was doing that in the 90s too and still left his stamp on the songs. Moongil thotham didn't really appeal to me. I don't know that any Rahman melody since Udhaya has really grabbed me. There's no pain, no intensity, just a procession of feel good that is perhaps useful for tranquilizing purposes. Basically sounds like the work of a middle aged composer, which of course he is now. Raja has somehow maintained a child like quality within himself or at least it is evident in his compositions.

Hulkster
6th April 2015, 06:28 AM
I believe the whole lot of you can do better than to talk about ARR in this thread. There has been four soundtracks released this year which is enough to talk about and somehow you guys can only think of a topic which has been done, analyzed and fought to death about 5 million times. Can't we just accept that the two composers are unique in their own right and just move on?

Btw has anybody noticed that thalaivar's albums, especially the ones in 2015 such as shamitabh, challa galli(yevade subramanyam) and the 3 melodies from rudhramadevi have a very unique sound. It is like his orchestration and instrumentation have a new DNA. I can't really pinpoint the unique aspect but if i were to describe it, i would say his composition style is starting to evolve into a free-flowing orchestration of various genres be it rock or world music etc.

krish244
6th April 2015, 10:31 AM
IR recording with Philharmonia Symphony Orchestra of London for Rudramadevi BGM?

Source: http://www.gulte.com/movienews/37532/How-Prestigious-Ilayaraja-Took-Rudrama-Music

"Maestro Ilayaraja is composing music for Gunasekhar's historical film "Rudramadevi" that is due for release this summer. If you have any doubts as to how prestigious our ace composer took this film, then these London diaries will blow away your mind.

Immediately after writing the scores for Rudramadevi, Ilayaraja flew to London to compose the live music with world's best orchestras and record it at best sound studios. Philharmonia Symphony Orchestra of London who have earlier scored for movies like Spiderman and Batman are playing the musical notes written by Raja sir.

For every line of the notes, the musicians couldn't focus but stop and applause Ilayaraja's greatness. All this music is being recorded at Angle Studios in London where background score of Titanic was composed. Within a week or so, Ilayaraja will be completing the work and get ready to hear the fantastic marvel in theatres."

thanks,

Krishnan

SVN
6th April 2015, 06:35 PM
Looks like another case of 'mixed' production value: Great music, but tacky filming (based on the Ponnar Shankar-like poor period details and SFX that I saw in the trailers). Hope the actual movie turns out to be good.

Gunasekhar is no Rajamouli.

teja
6th April 2015, 10:01 PM
>IR recording with Philharmonia Symphony Orchestra of London for Rudramadevi BGM

Why? Seriously why? What's the point in going all the way to London, using Philharmonia, write scoresheets for each and every instrument, undergo painstaking efforts to produce a worldclass score - when no one bothers to release the score on CDs or Online outlets? This happened with SriRamaRajyam. Fans had to resort to ripping audio tracks from DVDs. We can expect the same with Rudramadevi, as no one seems to be taking responsibility to release it through proper channel (Karthik Raja, I am pointing to you). Is Philharmonia not bothered either? Why would they work so hard, when their score is not going to be released officially?

Vysar
7th April 2015, 02:50 PM
http://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/nobody-can-replace-raja-ilayaraja-sir-says-rahman-033948.html

JamesDap
8th April 2015, 06:12 AM
Btw has anybody noticed that thalaivar's albums, especially the ones in 2015 such as shamitabh, challa galli(yevade subramanyam) and the 3 melodies from rudhramadevi have a very unique sound. It is like his orchestration and instrumentation have a new DNA. I can't really pinpoint the unique aspect but if i were to describe it, i would say his composition style is starting to evolve into a free-flowing orchestration of various genres be it rock or world music etc.

Are you perhaps referring to the more relaxed development of orchestral passages (or even the music in general)? You know, more spaced out with fewer notes, not all packed in like in the 80s? If so, I should say I noticed it in NEPV, esp Sayndhu Sayndhu and Sattru Munbu. Also Mugilo from Megha. In all these songs, the accompaniment is never overwhelming; there's actually a lot going but he's arranged it superbly to make it feel minimalist. He hasn't abandoned the notes-jammed-together-at-breathtaking-pace style either - see Mudhal Murai from NEPV or Ishq e Phillum from Shamitabh. He also used to come up with songs with this more relaxed approach in the 80s but not frequently. Mandram Vandha and Oru Poongavanam immediately come to mind.

dochu
8th April 2015, 01:03 PM
http://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/nobody-can-replace-raja-ilayaraja-sir-says-rahman-033948.html

In the some of the previous posts, heavy discussion on whether ARR/IR combo should happen or not - I wish that never happened because personality, experience & knowledge mismatch. I don't remember ARR congratulating IR on his 1000 films contribution. ARR is being projected as mild mannered and humble person. I was planning to point that out during the discussion.

And to my surprise, the above news came today. I am glad ARR knows that. Nobody in the world can replace or achieve what IR has done. Period. His music will stand long even after we all are gone from face of the earth.

JamesDap
8th April 2015, 08:34 PM
OK now I also agree with Hulkster that it's better not to bring up this ARR-IR debate. Why make it about the personalities, man? Stick to the music.

irir123
9th April 2015, 12:34 AM
>IR recording with Philharmonia Symphony Orchestra of London for Rudramadevi BGM

Why? Seriously why? What's the point in going all the way to London, using Philharmonia, write scoresheets for each and every instrument, undergo painstaking efforts to produce a worldclass score - when no one bothers to release the score on CDs or Online outlets? This happened with SriRamaRajyam. Fans had to resort to ripping audio tracks from DVDs. We can expect the same with Rudramadevi, as no one seems to be taking responsibility to release it through proper channel (Karthik Raja, I am pointing to you). Is Philharmonia not bothered either? Why would they work so hard, when their score is not going to be released officially?



Some facts - most Philharmonic Orchestras are NOT doing well economically - particularly those in Europe - the burden of the Euro falling on Germany and a few other countries while the rest of EU, viz., Italy, Greece and even Spain, sucking up the Euro, has left the economies teetering on bankruptcy and philharmonic orchestras are starved of basic funds.

Thus, they come cheap and IR can demand Hungary for those with tighter budget and London for those with a larger budget - the quality may not differ much but they are much cheaper to hire than the orchestras in the US!

Thats how and why IR manages to get this stuff done there, and so does Kamal (for Utthama Villain) - the orchestras in Europe are just happy to have work and food on the table and are not as much concerned about the scores not getting released, which anyway is left to the producer who is in India and owns the rights for the score, and who does not care abt it either since he may not be a musically inclined person.

Btw, even Hollywood composers get their scores done/played by orchestras in Europe for the same reason - cost factor! its much cheaper to fly the composer to Europe and back - for the recording, than hire a US based orchestra!

Thats the sorry state of affairs - not very romantic.

venkkiram
9th April 2015, 01:14 AM
இதுபோன்று அயல்நாட்டு இசைக் குழுக்களைக் கொண்டு தனது இசைக்கு வடிவம் கொடுத்துக் கொள்வது ராஜாவுக்கு மிகவும் பிடித்த ஒன்றாக தெரிகிறது. ரசிகர்களாகிய நமக்கும் இது ஒரு புதிய இசை ஆடை. அணிந்துகொள்வதில் சுகம்தான். எப்படியோ ராஜாவின் வீச்சு ஐரோப்பிய கண்டத்தை கொஞ்சம் கொஞ்சமாக ஆட்கொள்வது நமக்கெல்லாம் பெருமைதான்.

JamesDap
9th April 2015, 05:42 AM
Some facts - most Philharmonic Orchestras are NOT doing well economically - particularly those in Europe - the burden of the Euro falling on Germany and a few other countries while the rest of EU, viz., Italy, Greece and even Spain, sucking up the Euro, has left the economies teetering on bankruptcy and philharmonic orchestras are starved of basic funds.

Thus, they come cheap and IR can demand Hungary for those with tighter budget and London for those with a larger budget - the quality may not differ much but they are much cheaper to hire than the orchestras in the US!

Thats how and why IR manages to get this stuff done there, and so does Kamal (for Utthama Villain) - the orchestras in Europe are just happy to have work and food on the table and are not as much concerned about the scores not getting released, which anyway is left to the producer who is in India and owns the rights for the score, and who does not care abt it either since he may not be a musically inclined person.

Btw, even Hollywood composers get their scores done/played by orchestras in Europe for the same reason - cost factor! its much cheaper to fly the composer to Europe and back - for the recording, than hire a US based orchestra!

Thats the sorry state of affairs - not very romantic.


In any case, I guess IR only gets the recording and mixing done in London because of its superior studios. He still uses the BSO. Not aware if he did use Royal Philharmonic for any of his recent soundtracks.

rajsekar
9th April 2015, 08:38 AM
IRIR123 - I beg to differ on your observations about Raaja going to London to complete Rudramadevi background score. The current sound mixing technology and recording techniques have vastly improved in Europe and US. The musicians in Europe have lot more experience in playing their respective instruments besides having good range in delivering different tones. Raaja himself has commented on this aspect when he went to Hungary the last time. These musicians live and die with their instruments and have strong passion for music. In India, we don't see such type of musicians and orchestration. The very fact that majority of our film songs (except for some rare melodious albums) from Hindi, Tamil, Malayalam and Telugu are third-rate copy cats with terrible orchestration, is a proof of this decay. The average life span of a film song nowadays is 10-15 days. A hit song/ tune can blaze with lakhs of hits and quickly go into oblivion. It is true for western albums too. Piracy and easy streaming of compressed music in MP3 format has taken the soul & juice out of music albums. Audiophile quality music requires audiophile quality equipment to record and deliver the actual soul of the instruments. Raaja believes in delivering the highest quality work in a field which is now reduced to mere copy fields and instant gratification. Raaja wants to deliver a Ferrari performance when rest of the Indian film world is happy with Maruti 800. I would encourage Raaja fans to listen to "Paazhasi Raaja" soundtrack in an audiophile quality receiver and speakers to enjoy his true depth of composition.

It's mind boggling to think that Maestro wrote the entire BGM score for Rudramadevi in Chennai with detailed notations and mailed the entire notes to London orchestra a week before he landed. The one week's time given to each individual orchestra gives enough practice period to play the full orchestra when Raaja is present. What an amazing brain work!!! I salute the Maestro in pulling this off. Even Hollywood music is not recorded this way in LA.

irir123
10th April 2015, 10:00 PM
IRIR123 - I beg to differ on your observations about Raaja going to London to complete Rudramadevi background score. The current sound mixing technology and recording techniques have vastly improved in Europe and US. The musicians in Europe have lot more experience in playing their respective instruments besides having good range in delivering different tones. Raaja himself has commented on this aspect when he went to Hungary the last time. These musicians live and die with their instruments and have strong passion for music. In India, we don't see such type of musicians and orchestration. The very fact that majority of our film songs (except for some rare melodious albums) from Hindi, Tamil, Malayalam and Telugu are third-rate copy cats with terrible orchestration, is a proof of this decay. The average life span of a film song nowadays is 10-15 days. A hit song/ tune can blaze with lakhs of hits and quickly go into oblivion. It is true for western albums too. Piracy and easy streaming of compressed music in MP3 format has taken the soul & juice out of music albums. Audiophile quality music requires audiophile quality equipment to record and deliver the actual soul of the instruments. Raaja believes in delivering the highest quality work in a field which is now reduced to mere copy fields and instant gratification. Raaja wants to deliver a Ferrari performance when rest of the Indian film world is happy with Maruti 800. I would encourage Raaja fans to listen to "Paazhasi Raaja" soundtrack in an audiophile quality receiver and speakers to enjoy his true depth of composition.

It's mind boggling to think that Maestro wrote the entire BGM score for Rudramadevi in Chennai with detailed notations and mailed the entire notes to London orchestra a week before he landed. The one week's time given to each individual orchestra gives enough practice period to play the full orchestra when Raaja is present. What an amazing brain work!!! I salute the Maestro in pulling this off. Even Hollywood music is not recorded this way in LA.



please read my posting carefully with the letters in BOLD added now for clarity - "....they come cheap and IR can demand Hungary for those with tighter budget and London for those with a larger budget - the quality BETWEEN LONDON AND HUNGARY may not differ much but they are much cheaper to hire than the orchestras in the US!.."

Quality wise they are likely much better than the Indian counterparts in many aspects as well

sivasub
14th April 2015, 05:21 PM
http://www.iluvcinema.in/telugu/buzz-ntr-to-team-up-with-k-viswanath-ilayaraja/

Is this going to be true or just one other rumours?

irir123
22nd April 2015, 05:28 AM
http://www.iluvcinema.in/telugu/buzz-ntr-to-team-up-with-k-viswanath-ilayaraja/

Is this going to be true or just one other rumours?


this caught my eye "... Will this trio NTR, Ilayaraja, K. Viswanath able to re-create the magic of Sagara Sangamam?..."

is it so?

jmahesh
23rd April 2015, 06:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV5iJUGroOk

Joannepx
30th April 2015, 06:56 PM
Kidapoosari Magudi Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2QKOTm1lXw

uvowefiyas
30th April 2015, 10:22 PM
Kidapoosari Magudi Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2QKOTm1lXw

how do i purchase audio cd ? i read article today in hindu honeybee is releasing but no other info

prabhudas
7th May 2015, 11:47 PM
There's going to be a Music concert by Guitar Prasanna and his group, who wil be playing Ilaiyaraja and Rahman songs in the concert , this Saturday 5/9/2015, organized by TNF ( Tamil Nadu Foundation ) NY chapter as part of Annual Mother's day fund raising event at Queens High School of Teaching , Frank Padavan campus, 74-20, Commonwealth Blvd, Bellrose, NY, 11426
http://cdn.tnfusa.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Mothers-Day-flyer-final-dezn-curve.pdf

For all the Tristate area music fans who would like to attend, apparently this is the first time Guitar Prasanna is doing this kind of concert.
Some how I am unable to attach the flyer, the link above will take you.

Thanks

sivasub
9th May 2015, 11:06 PM
About an initiative from Radio City 91.1 fm

http://www.thehindu.com/features/cinema/salute-to-ilaiyaraaja/article7188356.ece

rajsekar
10th May 2015, 08:44 AM
Our great King's gift to all Mothers in this world. There are many songs in Indian cinema glorifying and praising "The Mother" but Ilaiyaraaja's two songs about Amma is beyond description.

1) The first song is my favorite and one of the top 10 hits of Malayalam going back many years. There are two versions sung by S Janaki and KJY. This song is very addictive, especially the orchestration and lyrics. One can forget about all their stress and worries after listening to this song. You don't have to consume alcohol to forget your worries, just listen to our King's song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELEaxpW1JPM

2) The second song is of course the great "Amma Entru Azhaikatha", acted by Rajini. Excellent lyrics and song delivery by KJY. You can hear this song umpteen number of times without getting tired.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_noGMpg2goM

Happy Mothers Day to all forum members and Raaja's fans!!! Long Live our King!!!

rajaramsgi
21st May 2015, 04:57 PM
anyone knows why Raja sir is in Hyderabad the past 2 days? (I happened to pass by Raja sir's house 2 days ago.. got a glimpse of his white Toyoto car and another white Audi SUV.)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/s720x720/11265534_952061708171710_6202913402781667573_o.jpg

krish244
21st May 2015, 05:27 PM
IR attended wedding of Mohanbabu's son. Must have been for that.

http://home.mykollywood.com/2015/05/20/rajinis-flight-goes-fast/

thanks,

Krishnan

rooky
22nd May 2015, 08:32 PM
Happened to be in Chennai for whole of this week and its a nice surprise that RadioCity FM (91.1) is playing only Raja songs for 24hours a day for 91.1 days... What a treat for all Raja Fans !!!

K
25th May 2015, 11:48 PM
http://www.athishaonline.com/2015/05/brand.html

rajaramsgi
26th May 2015, 02:29 AM
இதுபோன்று அயல்நாட்டு இசைக் குழுக்களைக் கொண்டு தனது இசைக்கு வடிவம் கொடுத்துக் கொள்வது ராஜாவுக்கு மிகவும் பிடித்த ஒன்றாக தெரிகிறது. ரசிகர்களாகிய நமக்கும் இது ஒரு புதிய இசை ஆடை. அணிந்துகொள்வதில் சுகம்தான். எப்படியோ ராஜாவின் வீச்சு ஐரோப்பிய கண்டத்தை கொஞ்சம் கொஞ்சமாக ஆட்கொள்வது நமக்கெல்லாம் பெருமைதான்.


தான் இசை இயக்குனர் அல்ல, இசையை எழுதுபவர் (கம்போசர்) என்று ராஜா சார் சொல்ல கேட்டிருக்கிறேன். அவர் இசையில் கமா, புல் ஸ்டாப் வரை அவருடைய சிந்தனையில் உதிப்பவை என்று தான் நான் அறிந்திருக்கிறேன். அப்படி இருக்கையில், அவர் எழுதும் இசையை யார் வாசித்தால் என்ன? வாத்தியக்காரர்கள் பற்றா குறையால் ஐரோப்பா செல்கிறார் என்றால் ஏற்று கொள்ளலாம். இவருடைய இசையை ஐரோப்பியர்கள் வாசிப்பதால் அந்த இசை மேம்படுகிறது என்றால், ராஜா சார் எழுதுவதையும் தாண்டி, அங்குள்ளவர்களின் கைவண்ணத்தால் ஒரு மாயம் உருவாகிறது என்றல்லவா அர்த்தம்?


தோணி இசை வெளியீட்டுகாக ஆந்திரா சென்ற சமயத்தில், ஒரு தொலைகாட்சிக்கு அளித்த பேட்டியில், ஏன் ஹங்கேரி செல்கிறீர்கள் என்பது போன்ற ஒரு கேள்விக்கு, இங்குள்ளவர்கள் கொடுக்கும் காசுக்கு வேலை செய்கிறார்கள் என்றும், அங்குள்ளவர் இசைக்காகவே வாழ்கிறார்கள் என்கிற ரீதியில் பதில் சொல்லி இருந்தார். அதை அப்படியே நாம் நம்பினாலும், காசுக்காக வாசிக்கும் அந்த வாத்திய கோஷ்டிகள் கை வண்ணத்தில் தானே ஆயிரக்கணக்கான முத்துக்கள் நமக்கு கிடைத்தன?

இப்படி நான் சொல்வாதல், ராஜா சார் அயல் நாடு செல்வதில் எனக்கு உடன்பாடு இல்லை என்று பொருள் அல்ல.. அவர் எட்டு திக்கும் சென்று எல்லாரோடும் இனைந்து வேலை செய்ய வேண்டும். அதனால் அவருக்கு புத்துணர்ச்சியும், பழக்க வழக்கங்களும், புது வகை இசையும், அனுபவமும் கை கூடும். (இந்த விஷயத்தில் ரஹ்மான் தெளிவாக இருக்கிறார் என்று சொல்ல தோன்றுகிறது)


தாமதமாய் என் கருத்தை சொல்ல வந்ததற்கு மன்னிக்கவும்...

Karikalen
4th June 2015, 03:57 AM
Fine nuances about IR in Dinamani for his birthday

http://www.dinamani.com/cinema/2015/06/03/இளையராஜா-பிறந்தநாள்-பால்-நி/article2847265.ece

krish244
8th June 2015, 07:59 AM
IR's talk with NewIndianExpress:

http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/chennai/How-Long-Can-People-Listen-to-the-Same-Old-Music/2015/06/08/article2854371.ece

"...Ilaiyaraaja says that he has composed all genres. He also added that the music in the current project he is working on would be different. “We need to be different to survive. How long can people listen to the same old music!” he asks with a a laugh...."

thanks,

Krishnan

Hulkster
8th June 2015, 08:18 AM
IR's talk with NewIndianExpress:

http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/chennai/How-Long-Can-People-Listen-to-the-Same-Old-Music/2015/06/08/article2854371.ece

"...Ilaiyaraaja says that he has composed all genres. He also added that the music in the current project he is working on would be different. “We need to be different to survive. How long can people listen to the same old music!” he asks with a a laugh...."

thanks,

Krishnan

Thank you very much Krishnan!

Alot of journalists and commoners make this mistake that thalaivar has a certain image of composing folkish western classical melodies. They seriously need to go through all his songs and will realize the number of genres and styles he has adapted into his own style which sounds so simple when heard together yet incredible complex when you try to break apart the composition to understand the nuances.

But at the same time this "image" happens because the directors of yesteryears only approached him for the same script and situation and mostly asked for the same type of 80s songs from him. Thankfully, thalaivar is much more choosy with the scripts and as a result, he has alot of interesting situations to compose for. Shamitabh and Neethane Ponvasantham are two very good examples of what he can do if you give him a different script and situation.

kr
11th June 2015, 06:22 AM
http://www.businessinsider.in/5-Indian-songs-that-could-have-received-Tony-Awards/articleshow/47586479.cms

krish244
13th June 2015, 07:37 PM
IR releasing tamil trailer of Rudramadevi movie:

http://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/ilaiyaraaja-released-rudhramadevi-trailer-035098.html

Surprising to see Pa.Vijay in the pictures. He is the lyricist for the tamil version!

thanks,

Krishnan

sivasub
24th June 2015, 08:45 AM
from the FB page.... courtesy Karthik S @milliblog

2 new Bengali albums with songs inspired by Ilayaraja's Tamil originals! Good song selection! http://on.fb.me/1Ls7x0y

dochu
24th June 2015, 10:33 AM
IR's new & first English movie - Love & love only.

http://www.vikatan.com/cinema/article.php?aid=47404

krish244
25th June 2015, 10:39 AM
IR's new & first English movie - Love & love only.

http://www.vikatan.com/cinema/article.php?aid=47404

That's a surprise new movie! Trailer available at https://www.facebook.com/Loveandloveonly.Movie . Curious to see what genre of songs IR has come up with. Not sure how much of an exposure will the movie get. Anyway, hoping for the best.

thanks,

Krishnan

SVN
25th June 2015, 11:59 PM
OMG! Why does he score for such amateurish attempts that may just about get a youtube release?

krish244
26th June 2015, 10:46 AM
R.Sundarrajan shares experience of working with IR for the movie Mella Thirandhadhu Kadhavu.

http://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/this-is-real-ilaiyaraaja-r-sundarrajan-shares-experience-035341.html

thanks,

Krishnan

thumburu
26th June 2015, 04:12 PM
OMG! Why does he score for such amateurish attempts that may just about get a youtube release?

indha maadhiri uppumaa companykku ellam music pOttaa , can we even expect something worth wile? Raja is indeed a mystery !!!

rajaramsgi
26th June 2015, 10:28 PM
here is something for your weekend reading :-)

Ravi Natarajan's Isai Genius Raja. browse through the page for more posts starting from 2008 till now. Hope you like it.

http://geniusraja.blogspot.co.uk/2008_09_01_archive.html

K
29th June 2015, 02:56 PM
http://thankyouilaiyaraaja.org.in/index.php

1 Crore Thanks to Raja Sir

krish244
3rd July 2015, 06:20 AM
About IR's meeting with Paul Mauriut during his first tour abroad.

http://tamil.filmibeat.com/awards/ilaiyaraaja-stuns-paul-mauriat-035456.html

thanks,

Krishnan

kr
13th July 2015, 05:58 AM
http://www.thefourohfive.com/music/article/listen-to-vikram-a-new-song-from-caribou-maestro-dan-snaith-s-alter-ego-daphni-143

rajsekar
17th July 2015, 01:41 AM
IRIR123 - Good comments in MSV thread and well written. MSV is a true LEGEND in every sense. I decided to post my comments in Raaja's thread because of his comments "I owe it to MSV" and why MSV did not get the proper recognition from Tamil film industry and National Award council.

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-tamilnadu/i-owe-it-to-msv-says-ilayaraja/article7427232.ece
http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/music/tribute-to-msv/article7429656.ece

It is known fact that our Tamil Nadu government did not fully recognize MSV's contributions even though he has composed music for fims acted & created by four Chief Ministers. At the National level, MSV should have been honored several years ago. MSV deserves a Dadsaheb Phalke Award for his immense contribution to South Indian music. I sincerely hope that either Tamil Nadu state or Center would announce or rename the Best Music Director Award to bear MSV's name. MSV has scored the second highest number of film & non-film musical albums in the world. MSV's physical body just left this earth but his musical soul and creation is like "Athma". MSV's music will never die and let the younger generation listen to his lovely melodies. Generation Y should know what a "melody" sounds like.

krish244
20th July 2015, 07:07 AM
IR to hold a tribute concert for MSV on July 27th.

http://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/tamil/music/Ilaiyaraaja-to-hold-a-tribute-concert-for-MSV/articleshow/48133407.cms

Thanks,

Krishnan

Russellmtp
17th August 2015, 09:56 PM
Read in indiaglitz that Isaignani was hospitalized. Hopefully everything turns out fine for the maestro and wishing him a speedy recovery.

rajsekar
18th August 2015, 12:06 AM
Venkat Prabhu said that Raaja was admitted to Apollo Hospital for gastric problem. Our prayers for his speedy recovery.

Mr. Viji Manuel passed away on Saturday. May his Soul rest in peace. I am hoping to see a TV program or public function where his musical contributions will be faithfully rendered.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/viji-manuel-the-keyboard-player-par-excellence-is-dead/article7548445.ece

rajsekar
18th August 2015, 01:50 AM
Interview with Manuel less than a year go:
http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/music/back-with-a-bang/article6379597.ece

The magic of Ilaiyaraaja
“Breaks were filled with exchanges on music and I made him listen to Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles and Jimi Hendrix. I influenced Ilayaraja in writing baseline for melodies. I was amazed at his ability for swift western music notations.” He then recalled how music director Govardhan, who had composed songs for the film ‘Varaprasadam,’ asked Raja to do the re-recording. “I still remember the theme music he composed brilliantly alternating between Major 7th chords and Minor 7th chords.” Viji mentioned how Jude David helped him hone his skills in music writing and Govardhan master who taught him jatis, talas and notes writing in Tamil.

Thinking of Viji Manuel, how would "Sterephonic Sannata" sound if Manuel had played the keyboard and bass guitar. Manuel had played the keyboard for the first version of this musical wonder back in 1980.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0PFiyuhRz4

rsubras
18th August 2015, 02:33 AM
indha maadhiri uppumaa companykku ellam music pOttaa , can we even expect something worth wile? Raja is indeed a mystery !!!

many of IR's 80's gems came from below uppuma level films only..... and which had been the only reason for that otherwise poor films success..........

Solla thudikkuthu manasu was one such movie that comes instantly to my mind.. everyone would have loved the hit number in that film poove sem poove, but that film had several engrossing numbers including the female version of poove sem poove......... interesting story line, outstanding music but spoiled by some very amateurish direction, screen play and the heroine's acting

krish244
18th August 2015, 11:21 PM
IR's interview


http://movies.ndtv.com/music/ilaiyaraaja-heart-is-the-best-instrument-1208347

thanks,

Krishnan

Joannepx
21st August 2015, 06:16 AM
Ilayaraja official youtube channel

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVlWr_LN9y80smEMr0KTBOA

Audio quality is extremely good
Maestro speaks about the official youtube channel launch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO28ck3Yw2U

sivasub
24th August 2015, 08:17 AM
http://www.dolbytheatre.com/events/details.php?id=155

Lake of Fire Film Director Raj Thiruselvan & Producers will be offering fans a once-in-a-lifetime live symphony background score music by MAESTRO ILLAIYARAAJA live Recording experience at the Dolby Theatre in Hollywood, CA on October 10, 2015. The unique concert event will feature a new popular repertoire from a forthcoming collaboration with ILLAIYARAAJA and Grammy Award winning producer Ken Caillat.

krish244
24th August 2015, 11:54 PM
Interesting news Sivasub. Curious to know how it will be.

thanks,

Krishnan

rajsekar
29th August 2015, 08:32 PM
Sivasub - This is a big news!!! Dolby Theatre in LA is a great stage for the world's record holder of maximum number of music albums. Having heard Maestro in O2 Arena, London in August 2013 (exactly two years) with non-stop 40 songs extravaganza, Dolby Theatre should be several notches higher and that too a Symphony. I will try to attend this once in a lifetime event of my Maestro. Why are these shows not advertised in US? Caillat has organized other performances the following week in his own production studio.

http://www.dolbytheatre.com/events/
http://www.kencaillat.com/index.html
http://www.artistmax.org/welcome

Joannepx
30th August 2015, 06:24 AM
Yes rajasekar. Its important that they publicize and make it popular. This is a once in a life time opportunity and I am also planning to attend.

Joannepx
30th August 2015, 06:26 AM
Game - Kannada & Tamil Bi-Lingual (Melliya Kodu in Tamil) Audio & Trailer to be launched soon. Exact date has not been announced. The film has Arjun, Manisha Koirala and Shyam.
Directed by A.M.R.Ramesh who shot to fame through films like Kuppi, Vanayuddham etc.

ukiuovebi
6th September 2015, 11:52 PM
http://www.dolbytheatre.com/events/details.php?id=155

Lake of Fire Film Director Raj Thiruselvan & Producers will be offering fans a once-in-a-lifetime live symphony background score music by MAESTRO ILLAIYARAAJA live Recording experience at the Dolby Theatre in Hollywood, CA on October 10, 2015. The unique concert event will feature a new popular repertoire from a forthcoming collaboration with ILLAIYARAAJA and Grammy Award winning producer Ken Caillat.

Looks like the event is cancelled :(. Not sure why? :???:
http://www.ticketmaster.com/Dolby-Theatre-tickets-Hollywood/venue/74167

sivasub
3rd October 2015, 03:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvYrrn5qpH0

Guna Sekhar & Ilayaraja About Rudhramadevi BGM

sivasub
6th October 2015, 07:59 PM
the hindi song sounds very good....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HqlQ2gXP-o

SVN
7th October 2015, 08:57 PM
Is Lata Mangeshkar the female singer in the Hindi version of the song, 'Naina' from Rudramadevi?