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sanjay
25th April 2005, 10:26 AM
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Ancient Hindus could navigate the air
By Shachi Rairikar

"The ancient Hindus could navigate the air, and not only navigate it,but fight battles in it like so many war-eagles combating for the domination of the clouds.



To be so perfect in aeronautics, they must have known all the arts and sciences related to the science, including
the strata and currents of the atmosphere, the relative temperature,humidity, density and specific gravity of the various gases..."

- Col. Olcott in a lecture in Allahabad, in 1881.

The Rig Veda, the oldest document of the human race, includes references to the following modes of transportation: jalayanâ€"a vehicle designed to operate in air and water (Rig Veda 6.58.3);



kaaraâ€"a vehicle that operates on ground and in water (Rig Veda 9.14.1);


tritalaâ€"a vehicle consisting of three storeys (Rig Veda 3.14.1);

trichakra rathaâ€"a three-wheeled vehicle designed to operate in air (Rig Veda 4.36.1);



vaayu rathaâ€"a gas or wind-powered chariot (Rig Veda 5.41.6);



vidyut rathaâ€"a vehicle that operates on power (Rig Veda 3.14.1).

Ancient Sanskrit literature is full of descriptions of flying machinesâ€"vimanas.



From the many documents found, it is evident that the scientist-sages Agastya and Bharadwaja had developed the lore of aircraft construction.

The Agastya Samhita gives Agastya's descriptions on two types of aeroplanes.



The first is a chchatra (umbrella or balloon) to be filled with hydrogen.



The process of extracting hydrogen from water is described in elaborate detail and the use of electricity in achieving
this is clearly stated.



This was considered to be a primitive type of plane, useful only for escaping from a fort when the enemy had set
fire to the jungle all around. Hence the name agniyana.



The second type of aircraft mentioned is somewhat on the lines of the parachute. It could be opened and shut by operating chords. This aircraft has been described as vimanadvigunam, i.e. of a lower order than the regular aeroplane.

The process of extracting hydrogen from water is described in elaborate detail and the use of electricity in achieving this is clearly stated.

Aeronautics or Vaimaanika Shastra is a part of Yantra Sarvasva of Bharadwaja. This is also known as Brihadvimaana Shastra.



Vaimaanika Shastra deals with aeronautics, including the design of aircraft, the way they can be used for transportation and other applications, in detail.



The knowledge of aeronautics is described in Sanskrit in 100 sections, eight chapters, 500 principles and 3,000 shlokas. Great sage Bharadwaja explained the construction of aircraft and the way to fly it in air, on land, on water and use the same aircraft like a submarine. He also described the construction of war-planes and fighter aircraft.

Vaimaanika Shastra explains the metals and alloys and other required material, which can make an aircraft imperishable in any condition. Planes which will not break (abhedya), or catch fire (adaahya) and which cannot be cut (achchedya) have been described. Along with the treatise, there are diagrams on three types of aeroplanesâ€"Sundara, Shukana and Rukma.

The aircraft is classified into three typesâ€"Mantrika, Tantrika and Kritaka, to suit different yugas or eras.



In krita yuga, it is said, Dharma was well established. The people of that time had the divinity to reach any place using their ashtasiddhis. The aircraft used in treta yuga are called Mantrika vimana, flown by the power of hymns
(mantras). Twenty-five varieties of aircraft including Pushpaka vimana belong to this era.



The aircraft used in dwapara yuga were called Tantrika vimana, flown by the power of tantras. Fifty-six varieties of
aircraft including Bhairava and Nandaka belong to this era.



The aircraft used in kali yuga, the on-going yuga, are called Kritaka vimana, flown by the power of engines. Twenty-five varieties of aircraft including Sundara, Shukana and Rukma belong to this era.

Bharadwaja states that there are 32 secrets of the science of aeronautics.



Of these, some are astonishing and some indicate an advance even beyond our own times.



For instance, the secret of para shabda graaha, i.e. a cabin for listening to the conversation in another plane, has been explained by elaborately describing an electrically worked sound-receiver that did the trick. Manufacture of
different types of instruments and putting them together to form an aircraft are also described.

It appears that aerial warfare was also not unknown, for the treatise gives the techniques of shatru vimana kampana kriya, and shatru vimana nashana kriya, i.e. shaking and destroying enemy aircraft, as well as photographing enemy planes, rendering their occupants unconscious and making one's own plane invisible.

In Vastraadhikarana, the chapter describing the dress and other material required while flying, talks in detail about the clotheswear for both the pilot and the passenger separately.

Ahaaraadhikarana is yet another section exclusively dealing with the food habits of a pilot. This has a variety of guidelines for pilots to maintain their health through strict diet.

Bharadwaja also provides a bibliography. He had consulted six treatises by six different authors previous to him and he gives their names and the names of their works in the following order: Vimana Chandrika by Narayanamuni; Vyoma Yana Mantrah by Shaunaka; Yantra Kalpa by Garga; Yana Bindu by Vachaspati; Kheta Yaana Pradeepika by
Chaakraayani; Vyoma Yaanarka Prakasha by Dundi Natha.

As before Bharadwaja, after him too there have been Sanskrit writers on aeronautics and there were four commentaries on his work. The names of the commentators are Bodh Deva, Lalla, Narayana Shankha and Vishwambhara.

Vaimaanika Shastra explains the metals and alloys and other required material, which can make an aircraft imperishable in any condition.

Evidence of existence of aircraft are also found in the Arthashastra of Kautilya (c. 3rd century b.c.). Kautilya mentions amongst various tradesmen and technocrats the saubhikas as 'pilots conducting vehicles in the sky'.



Saubha was the name of the aerial flying city of King Harishchandra and the form saubika means 'one who flies or knows the art of flying an aerial city'. Kautilya uses another significant word, akasa yodhinah, which has been translated as 'persons who are trained to fight from the sky'.



The existence of aerial chariots, in whatever form it might be, was so well-known that it found a place among the royal edicts of Emperor Asoka and which were executed during his reign from 256-237 b.c.

It is interesting to note that the Academy of Sanskrit Research in Melkote, near Mandya, had been commissioned by the Aeronautical Research Development Board, New Delhi, to take up a one-year study on 'Non-conventional Approach to Aeronautics', on the basis of Vaimaanika Shastra.



As a result of the research, a glass-like material which cannot be detected by radar has been developed by Prof. Dongre, a research scholar of Benaras Hindu University. A plane coated with this unique material cannot be detected using radar.

But perhaps the most interesting thing about the Indian science of aeronautics and Bharadwaja's research in the field was that they were successfully tested in actual practice by an Indian over a 100 years ago.



In 1895, full eight years before the Wright Brothers' first flight at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina, USA, Shivkar Bapuji Talpade and his wife gave a thrilling demonstration flight on Chowpatty beach in Mumbai.

An even more astonishing feature of Talpade's aircraft was the power source he usedâ€"an ion engine. The theory of the ion engine has been credited to Robert Goddard, long recognised as the father of liquid-fuel rocketry. It is claimed that in 1906, long before Goddard launched his first modern rocket, his imagination had conceived the
concept of an ion rocket. But the fact is that not only had the idea of an ion engine been conceived long before Dr Goddard, it had also been materialised in the form of Talpade's aircraft.

Talpade, a resident of Mumbai, was an erudite scholar of Sanskrit literature, especially of the Vedas, an inventor and a teacher in the School of Arts. His deep study of the Vedas led him to construct an aeroplane in conformity with the descriptions of the aircraft available in the Vedas and he displayed it in an exhibition arranged by the Bombay Art Society in the Town Hall.



Its proving the star attraction of the exhibition encouraged its maker to delve deeper into the matter and see if the plane could be flown with the aid of mercurial pressure. For, the one hundred-and-ninetieth richa (verse) of the Rig Veda and the aeronautical treatise of Bharadwaja mention that flying machines came into full operation when the power of the sun's rays, mercury and another chemicals called naksha rasas were blended together.



This energy was, it seems, stored in something like an accumulator or storage batteries. The Vedas refer to eight
different engines in the plane and Bharadwaja adds that they are worked by electricity.

Talpade carried on his research along these lines and constructed an aeroplane. In his experiments he was aided by his wife, also a deep scholar of the Vedic lore, and an architect-friend. The plane combined the constructional characteristics of both Pushpaka and Marut Sakha, the sixth and eighth types of aircraft described by Bharadwaja. It was named Marut Sakha meaning "friend of the wind".

With this plane, this pioneer airman of modern India gave a demonstration flight on the Chowpatty beach in Mumbai in the year 1895. The machine attained a height of about 1,500 feet and then automatically landed safely.



The flight was witnessed, among many others, by Shri Sayajirao Gaekwad, the Maharaja of Baroda and Justice
Govind Ranade and was reported in the Kesari, a leading Marathi dailynewspaper. They were impressed by the feat and rewarded the talented inventor.

Unfortunately, Talpade lost interest in things after his wife's death, and after his own death in 1917 at the age of 53, his relatives sold the machine to the Rally Brothers, a leading British exporting firm then operating in Mumbai.



Thus, the first ever attempt at flying in modern India, undertaken and made successful by an Indian, in a plane
of Indian manufacture and built to Indian scientific specifications, slid into the limbo of oblivion.
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Surya
27th April 2005, 12:25 AM
Lovely Article!! :thumbsup: :clap: Thanks. 8)

Idiappam
27th April 2005, 07:24 PM
Kites, probably!

geno
27th April 2005, 08:19 PM
Kites, probably!

deja vu :rotfl:

davie
28th April 2005, 07:11 AM
Lovely Article!! :thumbsup: :clap: Thanks. 8)

:rotfl:

HindustaniLadka
28th April 2005, 08:05 AM
Great article. Anti-Vedic fools like idiappam(sharabi) will obviously laugh at it. These anti-Vedic people have been supressing Hindu history for decades. They go around making it look like Europeans and Arabs founded modern technology, science and math. They continue to try to cover up the fact that all modern sciences and mathematices were founded by our Vedic culture. The anti-Vedic people have nothing to prove the article wrong, all they can do is laugh like hyenas.

Please refrain from posting personal criticism of other hubbers....Moderator

hehehewalrus
28th April 2005, 08:18 AM
Why are you seeking pride in such flimsy claims that happened eons ago? Instead of stupidly arguing that XYZ science was known to india or discovered in india, show some piece of robust infrastructure that was built on its principles. India has the maximum no of house collapse, bridge collapse, plane crashes, railway collisions...why dont you use your vedic science to correct all those???

Dont waste your applause on fantasy bubbles. Maybe you are just carrying over your mindset from the astrology thread and stocking your fantasy inventory with more and more fairy tales.

Kites comment was really funny :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

HindustaniLadka
28th April 2005, 09:05 AM
why is that whenever some aspect of Hindu history is expressed, some people immediately start saying that it is false or it is a myth even though there is plenty of evidence to support it. They have no evidence to support their claims that many aspects of Hindusim are myths, but they continue to post anti-Hindu crap. If someone talks about Jesus Christ, no one claims that the stories of Jesus or Moses arefalse, but they are quick to claim that Hinduism is incorrect whenver they have an opportunity.


Anyway, Here is plenty of evidence to support the fact that our ancient Vedic culture discovered and advanced most modern sciences and all modern mathematics.

http://www.atributetohinduism.com/index_old.htm


As for the issue of India having plane crashes, train crashes etc. Start a new thread on that topic.

hehehewalrus
28th April 2005, 09:28 AM
Dont crib now and try to start a flame war by pulling in other cultures or personalities, thats the height of kiddishness!

Nobody denies that something existed. It is stupid to harp on its existence if you *DONT KNOW* how to *APPLY* it to the current system. There are enough volumes of history and you dont have to build another for it to gather dust, or worse, do the unglamourous job of copy pasting from it.

The current system is so massively corrupted that no concept can correct it. No use bringing another useless statistic from history.

Gathering useless information is knowledge. Applying something *using* a tiny bit of information is wisdom.

HindustaniLadka
28th April 2005, 09:32 AM
ok...well this thread was created to talk about Vimanas, not modern Indian politics.

sanjay
28th April 2005, 10:20 AM
Hindustani ladka,
U are dead right. It has been a common featrure in the hub that whenever any article supporting hinduism is posted, the initiator is labelled pro RSS, fascist etc., & showered with the choicest of abuses.

Here anti hindu is secular & pro hindu is communal. These guys will not dare criticise any other religion.

So far, all the guys criical of this article have nothing concrete to say.


Please refrain from posting personal criticism - Moderator

sanjay
28th April 2005, 10:33 AM
hehehewalrus,
U question as to why vedic sciences has not been used to correct problems have to be addressed to the powers that be.

When we have elected an italian nit wit as a leader & a dummy sard as a PM, U cannot expect anything fruitful.

Roshan
28th April 2005, 10:43 AM
These guys will not dare criticise any other religion.

Hello sanjay alias anand .. . Actor Vivek - once when asked why does he only criticize hindu beliefs ( note: he only criticizes superstitions) and not other beliefs he promptly said "muthalla naan irukkiRa veetta suththapaduthanum appuRam thaan theruva suththapaduthuRatha paththi yOsikkalaam" May be "these guys" whom you are referring to must be having the same ideas and thoughts. Who knows. 8)

Roshan
28th April 2005, 10:49 AM
When we have elected an italian nit wit as a leader & a dummy sard as a PM, U cannot expect anything fruitful.

Why this unrelated hated stuff here. Now where are the Admins and Mods? :roll:

When someone opened up a thread praising the present government with some valid points some of our RSS devotees came running in requesting to remove the thread. Even sensible hubbers like JG posted some valid unbiased points there but the hardcores did not agree. The same rule should be applicable here as well. I sincerely hope the admins and mods will not turn a blind eye here.