sense of yearning....

[Oldposts]

Topic started by prakash (rprakash14@hotmail.com) (@ proxy.netsetter.org) on Mon Apr 24 18:48:21 EDT 2000.


I was watching Sedhu.I am not going to write anything about bgm as enough has been written to fill a book.The song Maalai en vedhanai...WOW!
the feature which struck me about this song was the sense of yearning...the sense of desperately looking for something.this has been one of IR songs` strongest points even in songs which were not about love failure-Thedal,I think is the correct word,in tamil.

Following is a list of my favorite songs in which this is very strong:
Vaan uyarndha-Idhayakkoil-this is THE IR song in this category
Rasave unnai naan-Thanikkattu raja
vaigaraiyil-payanangal mudivadhillai
Idhayam pogudhe-puthiya vaarpugal
Poongatru,pudhiranadhu-moonram pirai
What are your choices?

[Oldposts]

The following two, no three, came immediately to my mind:

Ennai thaalatta varuvaalo
Thaalattum poongatru naan allava
Nee dhaana nee dhaana nenje dhaana

- Murali

[Oldposts]

Chinna Thayaval - Talapathi
Naanaga Naan Illai Thaaye - kamal movie.

[Oldposts]

my vote goes to:

kaaththirunthu kaaththirunthu - vaidehi kaaththirunthal
then paandi seemayiliye - nayagan

[Oldposts]

vaikai karai kAtRE nillu
vanji thanai pArtha sollu

from u.usha (t.rajendar)

[Oldposts]

Amman koyil ellaame ( vijay movie )

[Oldposts]

Unnai ninaichen - Apoorva Sagodharargal
Kuyile pidichu - Chinna Thambi
Andha Vaanatha - Chinna Gownder
Uchi Vahideduthu - Rosapoo Ravikkaikari
Kaadhalin Deepam - Thambikku Endha Ooru
Kadavul vazhum - Oru Thalai Raagam [TRajendhar]
Annakili Onnai - Annakili
Ennullil Engo - Rosapoo Ravikkaikari
Megame Megame - Paalaivana Rojakkal [ShankarGa]
Poghuthey - Kadalora Kavithaigal
Poongathu - Mudhal Mariyadhai
Kanne Vaa - Kuzhandhai Yesu [Shyam?]
Padi parandha - Varusham 16
Nenjukulle - Ponnumani

[Oldposts]

Manitha manitha ini un vizhigal ,
Chinna puraa onru ,
Raaja enben mandhiri enben ,
Nalanthana nalanthana ,
Oru santhana kattukulle ,

list goes on ....
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[tvsankar]

Some more IR songs for the topic!!!
1. Kaatrae endhan geedham - Johny
2.Ennulae ennllae - Valli
3.Thulli ezhhundhadhu katru - Geethanjali
4.Devadhai ilam Devi - Ayiram nilavae vaa
5.Kanna unai thedugiraen vaa - ?
6.Unnai nambi nethiyilae - Chitttukuruvi
7.Dhoorathil naan kanda un - NIzhalgal
8.Nilaavae vaa selladhae vaa - Mouna raagam
9.Mandram vandha - " "
10.Poovae sem poovae - Solla thudigudhu manasu
with Love,
Usha Sankar.

[thumburu]

I agree with Prakash that this "thedal" factor is what makes many songs of Illaiyaraja very alluring and everlasting with an ache in my heart. I get an inexplicable feeling of yearning when I hear songs like "Deiveega raagam" (Ullaasa paravaigal), "Oru kanam oru yugamaaga"(Naadodi Thenral), "maalai karukalile andha malliyathottathile".

[tvsankar]

Yes thumburu.IR songs enralae feelings dhanae!!!
Some more songs in this list.Elllam thedal songs dhan!! Anal eppadi indha madhiri oru variety thara mudiyum!! That is IR!!
1.Naanae naana - Azhagae unnai aradhikiraen
2.Adum neram idhu dhan - Soorasamharam
3.Nadhiyoram oru ragam - Avarampoo
4.Eeramana rojavae - Ilamai kalangal
5.En jeevan padudhu - needhana andha kuyil
Indha thread il sonna ir songs ellam ovvovonnum different situations.Different feelings.Anal thedal dhan.Adhai IR azhagaga feel panna vaipar.
With Love,
Usha Sankar.

[hehehewalrus]

"maalai karukalile andha malliyathottathile".

Thumburu, which movie is this? or are u referring to Megam Karukayile from Vaidehi Waited?

[rajasaranam]

"maalai karukalile andha malliyathottathile".

Thumburu, which movie is this? or are u referring to Megam Karukayile from Vaidehi Waited?

I think its from some Ramarajan movie :?
Definitely the title should have 'Ooru' or 'Raasaa' in it :D

And a request to the MODS please move this to IR Albums section

[tvsankar]

song - Mala karukaiyilae
film - Enga ooru kavalkaran :lol:
singers - Mano and susheela RAmarajan and Gowdhami?
with Love,
Usha Sankar.

[rajasaranam]

someone aptly suggested the word 'thaedal' --- the song immtly struck upon me was 'thaedum kan paarvai'---what a song awesome orchestration and tune....

[tvsankar]

Few more songs in this list continue!!!
1.Kudagu malai kartril oru - karagatakaran
2.Malaiyoram veesum katrae - Paadu nilavae
3.Raasavae unnae nambi - Mudhal mariyadhai
4.Solam vedhaikaiyilae - 16 vayadhinilae
Something spl in these songs!!!
1. Jodi nadhigal paadhai vilagi serndhana - film?
2. Keladi kanmani - Pudhu pudhu arthangal
3.Putham pudhu poo - Dalapathi
With Love,
Usha Sankar.

[thumburu]

Usha Sankar, you have aptly selected the songs which convey this sense of yearning. From your last list , "solam vedakayille" and "jodi nahigal" are extremely haunting. The prelude of "solam vedhakayille" , the opening humming by SPB in "jodi nadhigal" accompanied with the guitar music give me goose bumps even now.

[tvsankar]

Yes thumburu.These songs are evergreen for me!!!!
In fact, these songs are entirely defferent situations.Solam is in a village situation.Jodi nadhi is typical western style.Irandiayum same feelings la kekka vechare IR adhan avar greatness i think.
These songs haunting me very much.
What about this song? indha topic la serthu kollalama?
"Un kuthama en kuthama
Yarai nanum kutham solla"
With LOve,
Usha Sankar.

[hehehewalrus]

usha sankar
thank you for the songs. As an IR fan I went through the list like Silas Marner counting his every penny :)

[tvsankar]

Walrus

You have quoted a very nice comparison!!! :) . I learned the story from my mum ... only after your mail. :D .

IR is an OCEAN!!!!

What i said is a tiny drop.Still more!!

With Love,

Usha Sankar.

[tvsankar]

This list is also thedal dhan.But little bit different

1.Anbae vaa arugil - kili pechu kekka vaa :)
2vetta veli pottalilae -Nalla nall :lol:
3.Yeri karai poonkatrae - Thooral ninnu pochu
4.Vaa Vaa kanmani - Innisai mazhai
5.Vanin vidi velli minnida - Honest Raj
6.Raaja chinna raaja - Ponndhalir
7.Oomai nenjin sondham - Manidhanin marupakkam
8.Madha un kovilil - Achani
With Love,
Usha Sankar.

[hehehewalrus]

usha sankar
with so many junk songs of today certified as "great" due to pathetic tastes, it is important to cherish IR's gems.

I actually heard the silas marner story by hearsay as a kid. By the time I got the book, 3 yrs passed and my story teller friend went to Norway. I wrote him about reading the story and he wrote back mentioning the eagerness with which Silas counts his pennies :)

[tvsankar]

Walrus
I knew that how u got the story!! :D .
This Silas Pennies still continue Walrus (Appa amma vaitha azhagana name irukum podhu idhu enna Walrus? :oops: )
Still this list also have the sad version! :(
1.Engirundho azhaikum en jeevan - En jeevan padudhu.
2.Mounam yen mounam yen - same movie
3.Nee thungum nerathil (Male version) - Manasellam
4.Unnae vida indha ulagathil - Virumandi
5.Naan oru sindhu kavadi - Sindhu Bhiravi
6.Thaaltu maari ponadhae - Unnai naan sandhithaen
7.Thanae then pandi meenae(SPB) - Udhaya Geeedham.
8.Oh paapa laali kanmadni laali - Idhayathai thirudhadhae
9.Oru kolakili sodi dhanai - Uzhaipaali
Indha list udan indha sad version ai mudithu kollalam nu ninaikaraen.Next idhae Thedal topic la happy version songs sollalama?
With Love,
Usha Sankar.

[hehehewalrus]

Real walrus lives in Atlantic Ocean, I am an intellectual walrus living in Ilayaraaja's Musical Ocean :)

Pls continue the listings.

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LIST IT OUT

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usha sankar
with so many junk songs of today certified as "great" due to pathetic tastes, it is important to cherish IR's gems.


many junk (which) songs of today certified as "great" (by whom) due to pathetic tastes (pt ?? ), it is important to cherish IR's gems.

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[rami]

Yeraning means "Yekkkam" than "thedal"

1.Vellai pura onru ponathu... (?)
2.Naan paadum mouna raagam .... (?)
3.Thedum kan paarvai thavikka ... (?)
3.Kanna varuvaaya ... (Manathil...)
4.Kalai vaani ...(Sindu Bairavi)
5.Raasave unnai yeeni ... (mudhal mariyathhai)
6.Nenjukkulle innarunnu ... (Ponnumani)
7.Katti karumbe kanna.. kannam sivantha manna ... (Samsaram or minsaram)
8. Poguthe Poguthe ... (?)
9.Pottu vacha ... (Idhayam)
10. idayame o idhayame... (Idhayam)
11.Chinnan chiru kiliye.... chithira poo ... (3 mudichu)
12.Mayanginen solla thayanginen....

One more song from "Poo vizhi vaasalile..." I dont remember the exact starting. Can some1 help me

[tvsankar]

some of the songs are not matching with the sad or happy versions.But this list is also yearnings!!!
1.Pani vizhum nilavu - Mouna raagam
2.Mounamana neram - Salangai oli
3.Nila adhu vanathu melae- Nayagan
4.Devan dhandha veenai -Unnai naan sandhithaen
5.Poovae poochuda vaa - Poovae poochuda vaa
6.Thulli ezhundhadhu Katru - Geedhanjali
7.Kanavil midhakum - eera vizhi kaviyangal
8.Manadhil enna ninaivugalo - Poondhalir
9.Kodiyilae malligapoo - Kadolora kavidhaigal
10.Solli vidu velli nilavae - Amaidhi padai or Adhirdai padai
Walrus,
Nice reply!!
With LOve,
Usha Sankar.

[rprakash]

I started this topis almost 5 years back.good to see that it is still going on. Mainly to ask shankar what he finds so yearning about nila adhu vanathu mele :?

[thumburu]

rprakash, thanks for starting a wonderful thread. But why are you not posting these days? We miss you :)

[app_engine]

ramyaramesh, chinnanchiru kiLiyE is from `mundhAnai mudichchu'...not 3 mudichchu which had the classic `vasantha kAla nadhikaLilE, vairamaNi neeralaigaL':-)

[hehehewalrus]

Matching songs with movies for IR hits is like the countries-capitals mugging in lower class geography :)

1.Vellai pura onru ponathu... Pudhu Poem
2.Naan paadum mouna raagam .... Idhaya Temple
3.Thedum kan paarvai thavikka ... Mella Thirandhadhu Door
3.Kanna varuvaaya ... (Manathil...Will Vendum)
4.Kalai vaani ...(Sindu Bairavi)
5.Raasave unnai yeeni ... (mudhal mariyathhai)
6.Nenjukkulle innarunnu ... (Ponnumani)
7.Katti karumbe kanna.. kannam sivantha manna ... (Samsaram or minsaram)
8. Poguthe Poguthe ... Kadalora Poems
9.Pottu vacha ...not (Idhayam) its Mike Madonna Kamarajan
10. idayame o idhayame... (Idhayam)
12.Mayanginen solla thayanginen.... Naane Raja Naane Minister

The yekkam song in Poovizhi Vaasalile is Small Small Roja Poove.

[Thiru]

pottu vacha from mike madonna kamarajan or Singara velan?

[hehehewalrus]

Sorry there is a song Pottu Vaitha from Idhayam, the original listing was correct.

[tvsankar]

Happy version songs for Thedal!!!
1Sendhura poovae - 16 vayadhinilae
2.Kadhalain deepam - Thambiku endha oru
3.Putham pudhu kalai - Alaigal oivadhillai
4.Mamae machan hei - Muratukkalai
5.Roja onru mutham kekkum - Malaiyur mammatiyan
6.Rasathi manasulae indha - enga oru ?
7.ponni nadhi -Mudhal vasandham
8.Oru kumnguma sengamalam - Aaradhanai
9.Golusu konjum padham - Chinna durai
10.Thaenaa odum oda - Bharani
11.Thazham poovae vasam - kai kodukum kai
12.edho ninaivugal -Agal vilaku
13.onrodu ullangal - Anbuku naan adimai
14.Meendum meendum vaa - Vikram
15.Dhagam edukara neram -Enakaga kaathiru
this list is going on!!!
Prakash, i write it without my knowledge.But edho thedal in water nu feel panna vaikiradhu i think!!!
With LOve,
Usha Sankar.

[tvsankar]

Some more songs of happy version of Thedal!!!
1.Ponana maeni - Meendum Gokila
2.Hey orayiram - same movie
3.Pagalilae oru nilavinai - Ninaivae oru sangeedham
4.Ninaivo oru paravai - Sigapu Rojakal
5.Kannil edho minnal - Poo vilangu
6.Naan pesa vandhaen - Paluti valartha kili
7.Oru naal unnodu - Uravadum nenjam
8.Urugudhae pon meni - Moonram pirai
9.Vennilavin - Adhiradhi padai
10.Kangalukul ennai ezhudhu
List is going on!!!!!
With Love,
Usha Sankar.

[rprakash]

Thumburu, thanks for your kind words. I visit forum daily-but the drive to post is gone. went through a phase where this place was an obsession-so many of previous dfers ,I do not see anymore.You will also reach a stage where you will become like many of us-a Thinnai perusu!

[hehehewalrus]

A great yekkam song in eagerness - Alapol Velapol from Ejamaan

[rami]

Yearning songs in happy mood:

1. Vaa vennilaa
particularly the line
Mugam paarkka naanum mudiyaamal neeyum
2.Paadu nilaave..
3.Ilamai enum poongaatru
4.Azhage Azhagu thevathai.. (Raaja paarvai)
5.Kaathodu thaan naan paaduven..
6.Vaa Vaa Anbe...
7.Unai paartha pinbu naan (Kaadal mannan)

Some pickouts from ARR's compositions:
1.Enai kaanavillaiye netrodu.. (Kaadal desam)
2.Ennavale ennavale (Kaadalan)
3.Thanga thaamarai magale (Minsara kanavu)
4.En mel vizhundha mazhai..(May maadam)
5.Netru illatha maatram .. (Pudhiya mugam)
6.Porale ponnu thayee.. (Karuthamma)
7.Evano oruvan Vaasikkiraan (Alaipaayuthe..)
Hats off to ARR
8.Enge enathu kavithai... (Kandukondein(2))
9.Uyire uyire vanthu... (Bombay)
10.Kaadal rojave (Roja)
11.Kurukku siruthavale.. (Mudalvan)
12.

[tvsankar]

Some more Thedal songs in IR's music

1.Kathum kadal ullirundhu - Kattumarakaran
2.Solladha ragangal - Mahanadhi
3.Sollayo varthai onru - Mohamull
4.Vaa kaathiruka neramilai - Kaathiruka neramillai
4.En purushan dhan - Gopurangal saivadhillai
5.Paruva kalangalin - Moodu pani
6.Vasandha kala kolangal - Thiyagam
7.Vaazhga rani - Adhutha varisu
8.yetham yeraichu kathu - Bhairavi
9.Onrodu onranom - Anbuku naan adimai
10.Sri ramanin sri deviyae - Priya
11.Ninaithadhu yaro - pattuku oru thalaivan
list is going on
With Love,
Usha Sankar.

[hehehewalrus]

one all time greatest yearning song:
Kanaa kaanum kangal mella. whenever i play this song i select the Loop option and run it atleast 15 times!!

[hehehewalrus]

another yearning song that I randomly found - Nilave Malare.

superbly sung by PS - what an incredible melody by MSV, fantastic!!

[rami]

Eeramanaa rojave ...
is another classic song from IR

[rami]

Ethetho ennam valarthen...(Punnagai mannan)

[tvsankar]

Some of MSV's thedal songs!!!!
1.Nilavae ennidam nerungadhae (MSV)
2.Nilavai parthu vanam sonnadhu

3.Naan unnai azhaikavillai
4.Orae padal unnai azahaikum

5.Malar edhu en kangal dhan enru
6.Malligai en mannan mayangum

7.Partha nyabhgam ilaiyo
8.Naan parthadhilae

9.Ellorum nalam vaazha naan paaduvaen
10. Neru mudhal nee yaro naan yaro
With Love,
Usha Sankar.

[S.Balaji]

Yen pirandhai maganay yen pirandhayo - TMS - Shivaji

karai mel pirakavaithan - Padagotti - MGR

Ikkaraiku akarai pachai - MSV

Kana kaanum kangal mella - Agni satchi - Sivakumar

Uchi vaguntheduthu - rosapoo ravikaikaree - Siva

Kadalin deepam onru - rajini

Muthu muthu therottam - Vani jayaram

Idu kuzandhai paadum thallatu - Oru thalai ragam

Naan oru raasi ilaa raja - Oru thalai

Vasamilla malaridhu - Oru thalai

Enkathai mudiyum neramidhu - Oru thalai

Kadavul vazum kovililay - Oru thalai !!!

[saradhaa_sn]

All of you forgot one of the master piece of Ilaiyaraja:

"Vasandha kaala kolangal...vaanil vizhundha kodukal"....in Thiyaagam.

Another one: "Raja ponnu....adi vaadiyamma"... (Orey Muththam) by Jayachandran.

[S.Balaji]

All of you forgot one of the master piece of Ilaiyaraja:

"Vasandha kaala kolangal...vaanil vizhundha kodukal"....in Thiyaagam.

Another one: "Raja ponnu....adi vaadiyamma"... (Orey Muththam) by Jayachandran.

Vasantha kaala kolangal -

Well , again you had taken back by 27 years. WOnderdul song by SJ. Again there is IR there !!

What about Nallavarkellam saatchigal rendu onru manasaatchi - TMS in Thyagam

THere is also another song - Pesaathay vaayulla oomai - In Deepam in think

[S.Balaji]

I am not sure whether - Padikatha methai can be considered here :

Oray oru oorilay oray oru raaja.

Tears will roll out when the following words come :

Pillai petra raaja oru naayai valarthaar etc etc

Nanri kettai maganai vida naaigal meladaa

Shivaji at his best .

Great song

[hehehewalrus]

The greatest yekkam song I have ever heard is Nee varuvai ena naan irundhen. Unbelievable song, really no more arguments about it!!

[S.Balaji]

The greatest yekkam song I have ever heard is Nee varuvai ena naan irundhen. Unbelievable song, really no more arguments about it!!

Walrus,

Its from Kalyani Menon .... Mother of Rajiv Menon.....

She sang very few songs in Tamil ... also sang few words in Kandukonden.....

Also, you by mentioning that NO MORE ARGUMENTS ABOUT IT.... You are inviting trouble !!! :)

There are better songs than that mate

[S.Balaji]

Endhan pon vannamay ....anbu poo vannamay..

TMS for Shivaji composed by IR.... Rajini also acted ....

Naan vaaza vaipen ??