Auto Urine Therapy

[Chappani]

Hi Friends,

I remember sometimeback there was a thread on Auto Urine Therapy in the old look forum-hub.
I practise AUT and find it has a lot of positive results for me.
I read there are lots of positive results in this therapy, it has cure for diseases like Psoriasis for which in the conventional medicines there is not of much help.
People who follow AUT please share your experiences, good or bad, your thoughts on this so that it will help other people who are following or intend to follow.

thanks and regards,

[Alan]

What exactly is AUT? I hope it is nothing to do with what Moraji Desai used to do!

[binal142001]

Alan,
Auto urine therapy is treating medical problems with ones own urine internally or externally. and yes.. IT IS EXACTLY WHAT MORARJI DESAI USED TO DO...It is the best medication for any kind of health problems humans have. Its deviod of all chemicals . it has just the excess of the nutrients and antibodies to ones own diseases.

Chappani,
I have read books of martha christie and one of armstrong and the results published were mind boggling...one such experience published was of a lady with breast cancer in last stages.....if u r interested in AUT then u should read those books..

My dad had severe migraine problems for almost 30 years i think...and after i think about 3 years of continuous AUT its like hes forgotton what was it like when he had that problem....it has really helped him a lot.....and there has been other health problems which he used AUT to get well....he's a 100% fan of this AUT(an all natural medicine)..
My dad does this reading books and for some specific problems he any of us family member has he gets phone consultation of the urine therapy specialist(which is about 800 kms from where my dad lives)
i have started this recently....i have started to see positive effects of the medicine on the problems i have. but u can see its effects very soon on skin...ur skin will glow naturally.....

I support this AUT...
good to know that there are people who does this..we could discuss more on this topic if interested..

[Badri]

I have heard about it, but binal, are you serious? Sorry if I come across as insensitve or anything, because your father as you say has used it and believes it, but I mean how can you use urine? Really would like to know how you and your family reacted to it initially. How did you get over the natural disgust one feels for it?

Also Chappani, how did you get started? How did your family react to your truck with AUT?

[Sandeep]

I assume badri wants to know if urine is 'treated' before use or whether it is fresh from the source.

Chappani we are anxious ? :)

[Badri]

Sandeep!! :lol:

Fresh or treated, I tend to view it with a hint of dislike.

Can't urine spread infection and stuff? I'd always thought human waste can contaminate water, can't it, and spread diseases?

[Sandeep]

Can't urine spread infection and stuff? I'd always thought human waste can contaminate water, can't it, and spread diseases?

Hey its your own urine. How can it give you any infection that you dont already have?

[Badri]

Sandeep! :notworthy:

What more can I say!

[Shakthiprabha.]

Surprising to see, some actually still use this therapy. Though Ive heard bout morarji desai practicing it and ofcourse read about its beneficial uses, the whole idea is unpleasant(with due respects to those who favour it) for me.

[binal142001]

I have heard about it, but binal, are you serious? Sorry if I come across as insensitve or anything, because your father as you say has used it and believes it, but I mean how can you use urine? Really would like to know how you and your family reacted to it initially. How did you get over the natural disgust one feels for it?



Badri ,
ITS JUST NORMAL TO FEEL DISGUSTED TO DRINK ONES OWN URINE...
I felt the same things as anybody might feel about ingesting urine"disgusting". In the beginning even if my father talked about the urine therapy i felt disgusted..and then i read the books on those.....

But i knew my father got benefitted by it very much....he is an example for me apart from the experiences from the books i read.....even before i started some close relatives got interest in this and they started doing this...and believe me a very obese person with arthritis- after doing this lost their weight remarkably and their knee pain was almost gone.....and one more person who had all kinds of common problems even with slight change of food, water and air......got a lot and lot better and now that person travels without any problems...and more such experiences from our family and friends..
Sorry for some disgusting details here..U will feel it disgusting only if u have not done this.
Even i have not so uncommon some health problems....so i thought "do i want to continue to take medicines without seeing much improvement and harm my body with external chemicals OR do i want my own medicine without side effects"...Then i decided to start this...For the first time when i did that i was like eh....so disgusting i'm doing this....but i did it....in the beginning i felt it wierd...but then on after i got used to it i started to open my mind and then realised that IT tastes just like whatever I have had for food..for example- sweet, sour, salty, bitter depending on what we have had in the past few hours...

To my limited knowledge....because i have just started to read about it..
No- urine cant spread any infection. Urine is not human waste. Urine is the excess of what our body needs (if we read biology about urine production) plus it has antibodies to our own health problems. Stools/fecus is human waste which causes infection and contamination.

[Alan]

Ooooooooooh I wouldn't drink my urine even if it is the ambrosia that would give me eternal youth & a disease free body! Thankyou very much. Taata guys!

Happy Urine Drinking!

Tell me if you need Wine Glasses & some pickles or fried fish! LOL! :D

[binal142001]

Alan,
People who does this is not for eternal youth BUT to treat the medical problems they have. May be u r very blessed to have a disease free body. COUNT UR BLESSINGS.....

[stranger]

No- urine cant spread any infection. Urine is not human waste. Urine is the excess of what our body needs (if we read biology about urine production) plus it has antibodies to our own health problems.

Really! :shock:

Has it been scientifically proven???

Any pathologist would agree on this or only a few would agree??!

or it is just one another ayurvEdic theory of that sort ?! :roll:

[Querida]

To Binal :) : I'm sorry I guess you are speaking from the perspective of having tried it and seen results but from my maybe naive maybe safe point of view it is quite imcomprehensible to do something like this...

anyways just wondering would you have to adhere to a good/strict diet if you are going to go through this therapy...so that according to what i understand from your explanation you get the utmost nutrients/antibodies out of your urine...so would not this change in diet be enough to change the ailments affecting one's body?...and what about belief....it has its "miracles" as well...to do something so extreme believing it will do you good in itself help one get/feel better?

[stranger]

Q: I believe your response is for "binal142001"! :)

[Querida]

Q: I believe your response is for "binal142001"! :)

hi my strangerfriend yes the Q from Q is for Binal. :wave:

[r_kk]

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Really! :shock:

Has it been scientifically proven???

Any pathologist would agree on this or only a few would agree??!

or it is just one another ayurvEdic theory of that sort ?! :roll:

The history of AUT, various beliefs, its effectiveness, so-called mineral/vitamin content, I will try to cover it under the following thread, when I get some time…

http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=4841
Alternative medical Therapies: science or pseudo science?

In nutshell,
Urine can be consumed in extreme case (just to survive) where no potable water is available. The mineral contents in Urine are nothing but the extras which body doesn’t require and all these minerals can be easily achieved without drinking urine.

[binal142001]

To Binal :) : I'm sorry I guess you are speaking from the perspective of having tried it and seen results but from my maybe naive maybe safe point of view it is quite imcomprehensible to do something like this...

anyways just wondering would you have to adhere to a good/strict diet if you are going to go through this therapy...so that according to what i understand from your explanation you get the utmost nutrients/antibodies out of your urine...so would not this change in diet be enough to change the ailments affecting one's body?...and what about belief....it has its "miracles" as well...to do something so extreme believing it will do you good in itself help one get/feel better?

Querida- before i tried it i was just like u or any of u ---its not any miracle or just a belief....urine really has exactly what our body need to be treated...

Stranger- yes...this is kinda like ayurvedic things....not scientifically proven but proven to cure diseases :wink: ..

My thoughts-" The reason why the holistic medicines-ayurvedic, homeopathy, urine therapy etc are not scientifically proven is because these do not have lab chemicals like the allopathy has....why allopathic doctors do not agree on any point of holistic medicine is - so that they get their money from their sincere patients to them everytime they get problems......allopathic doctors may be selfish thinking if he does these holistic medicine or recommend these to his patients then they will follow that....then a person would be solved of that specific problem completely and do not have to go to doctor again with that problem....hm....monetary loss for doctor....but holistic doctors are selfless in a manner that they provide permanent remedies to patients problems so that the patient never gets that problem again....."


As rkk said--surviving on urine in absence of water and food...so just imagine how powerful urine is..There are real life stories where people have survived on urine at times of natural disaster..

whatever u call it science or pseudo science.....
Urine is a natural healer. And I trust holistic healing.

[dev]

before i tried it i was just like u or any of u ---its not any miracle or just a belief....urine really has exactly what our body need to be treated...


If urine has what our body needs to be treated(the minerals or whatever it is) , Y did the body excrete it????!!!... Y didn't it absord the req minerals before excretion???!!!... :?

[Chappani]

Thanks for the response friends. Thanks particularly for Binal.

Dev, from what I read: Human Body cannot absorb all the Nutrients present in the Blood at the particular point of time and hence it gets lost in Urine. This doesn't mean they are waste OR these nutrients are not required by body but its just that not able at that particular point. You can visualise AUT as a feedback ossilator which stabilises Human body.

I was initially a little bit hesitant to start off with this. But when I read about the numberous benefits of this I have become a great fan of AUT. My son is very young now, when he grows up I will definely advocate AUT to him. If you are a beleiver in Hindu Philosopy then you can start this very fast, as per Shivambu Kalpa the book that states the benifits of AUT, it states Urine as the Gods Teertha which comes directly from Lord Shiva.
Tell me we kill innocent Animals, eat them and relish them, we don't feel guilt or be ashamed of this :(. If this is the case why should we be ashamed in taking one's own Urine :) considering the numerous benifits it has.

Some of the benifits I have received with AUT:

1) You become mentally more alert. The drowsy feeling we have at times comes down with AUT.

2) After I started with AUT, the attack of common cold, cough, fever etc is very less. There was a water contamination in Bangalore due to the recent rains. Almost all my family members had fever, cold, cough; I was the only one left out.

3) I fell more positive, Happy after I started AUT.

Friends, just start off with AUT and get the benifits of it. It takes courage to start off, in the course of time you will definetly pat your back for doing this.

[Alan]

Alan,
People who does this is not for eternal youth BUT to treat the medical problems they have. May be u r very blessed to have a disease free body. COUNT UR BLESSINGS.....

What next, will you be eating your shit as well because it is packed with nutrients?

Rabbits eat their excreta ,, because for them cellulite digestion is not complete the first time. They will die if they are not allowed to eat it. This behaviour is called coprophagy. I don't know if this will inspire you to try i.

Anyway, I won't be replying in this thread anymore- do as you wish. eat or drink ur feaces & other waste matter.

[r_kk]

[tscii:c8a002461e]Sorry Mr. Chappani,
Unfortunately Scientific verification process doesn’t believe on few rare exceptional cases as the proof. If it is the case, I can correlate few rare occurrences as follows.
1. I take tea in the morning regularly and I didn’t get fever when most of my friends were affected with fever.
2. My mother takes lemon tea very often and hair is black color even after at the age of 60
3. My grandmother use brick powder and all her teeth were strong till her death at age 85

If I tell others that doing these and you will get the benefits, then science will reject this individual claim as just “coincidental” (kaaka urkaara panampazalm vizuntha kathai) occurrence till these kinds of claims are statistically proven.

A real medicine has to work on large number of people, show any measurable effect on reasonable people (including kids and double blind placebo trials) and repetitive under similar circumstances.

Do you have any kind of such proofs?

Can you please list out the basic chemical/nutritional/anti-bacterial/anti-fungi properties of Urine? (from any of the books, you had read!)

Till you provide any such evidences, I request hubbers not to try such so called holistic Therapies, even it is supported by so called holy books ( Unfortunately many nonsensical books are also considered part of Indian (or so called Hindu) heritage system. I fear such blanket claim relating to religion will bring only negative image to the belief system you are subscribing)




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[pavalamani pragasam]

Thanx, r_kk :)

[Sandeep]

Commercial medical applications of urine and urea in use today include:

Murine Ear Drops and Murine Ear Wax Removal System;
Ureaphil, a diuretic made from urea;
Urofollotropin, a urine-extract fertility drug;
Ureacin, a urea cream for skin problems;
Amino-Cerv, a urea cream used for cervical treatments;
Premarin, a urine-extract oestrogen for skin ulcers, burns, infected wounds, and other purposes.

[Chappani]

Dear kk,

your arguements for not accepting AUT sounds good.
Firstly I would like you to read the below links, which throw more light on UAT from a global perspective.

http://www.hps-online.com/hurine.htm
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/urine.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/9012/amaroli.htm
http://www.freedomdomain.com/health/Not-Uns.html

It is not just in India, but even doctors from western countries advocate AUT for their clients.
I accept your arguement regarding your mother, grand mother..: but if there is a definite change felt by them after they started practising these with their condition before, then I think there is something in this which we need to investigate and it cannot be sidelined branding it as an exceptional case.

Please give a serious thought on this, as this is free, easy to use therapy. Just think of so many poor people in India who can make use of this???
Keep your mind always open for new things "Katradu Kaimanalavu Kalladadu Vulagalavu".

[Sandeep]

Some references on Urine Therapy:

Armstrong, John (Dr), The Water of Life, Health Science Press, Rupa and Co., 1990.
Bartnett, Beatrice (Dr), Urine Therapy - It May Save Your Life, Lifestyle Institute, 1994.
Christy, Martha M., Your Own Perfect Medicine, Futuremed, 1996.
Desai, Morarji, Miracles of Urine Therapy, Pankaj Books, 1998.
Free, A. H. (Dr), Urinalysis in Clinical Laboratory Practice, CRC Press, Cleveland, 1975.
Van der Kroon, Coen, The Golden Fountain: The Complete Guide to Urine Therapy, Amethyst Books, 1996.

[binal142001]

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[binal142001]

No- urine cant spread any infection. Urine is not human waste. Urine is the excess of what our body needs (if we read biology about urine production) plus it has antibodies to our own health problems. Stools/fecus is human waste which causes infection and contamination.

Alan,
I think u r blind...read carefully what i said"I SAID URINE IS NOT HUMAN WASTE...... " Anyways people are sharing their experiences here ....U ARE NO ONE TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT THEY SHOULD DO...... SO BETTER JUST KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT WITH YOUR **** IN THIS REGARD.....

[binal142001]

Chappani i completely agree what u said regarding urine therapy..

[Alan]

before i tried it i was just like u or any of u ---its not any miracle or just a belief....urine really has exactly what our body need to be treated...


If urine has what our body needs to be treated(the minerals or whatever it is) , Y did the body excrete it????!!!... Y didn't it absord the req minerals before excretion???!!!... :?


Exactly, dev.

[Sandeep]

before i tried it i was just like u or any of u ---its not any miracle or just a belief....urine really has exactly what our body need to be treated...


If urine has what our body needs to be treated(the minerals or whatever it is) , Y did the body excrete it????!!!... Y didn't it absord the req minerals before excretion???!!!... :?


Exactly, dev.

Nutrient-filled blood passes through the liver where toxins are removed to be excreted as solid waste. Eventually, this purified "clean" blood undergoes a filtering process in the kidneys, where excess water, salts, vitamins, minerals, enzymes, antibodies, urea, uric acid and other elements not usable at that time by the body are collected in the form of a purified, sterile, watery solution that is urine. The function of the kidneys is to keep the various elements in the blood balanced. The important elements in the blood are not filtered out because they are toxic and harmful to the body, but simply because the body does not need a particular concentration of an element at that specific point in time. It is this very regulating process of the kidneys that allows us to eat and drink more than our bodies need at any one time.

[dev]

Sandeep,

Though ur xplanation makes sense, I'm not able to accept AUT at this point of time... the very thought nauseates...

[Nichiro]

Chappani,
If I am not forgetting, I had initiated the topic of AUT on old FH long time back.

DEV,

You said that very thought nauseates you. Well . Ithappens in the beginning but once you show determination, it is accepted by mind.
I have cured myself of primary cancer warts which had started growing all over my neck region and on stomach.
I had a mouth leision and primary fibrosis had set in.
It is over ten years now after starting AUT.
Today I am hale and hearty without any health problems thanks to AUT.

Nichiro

[Alan]

Do u practice AUT regulary, Sandeep? Do u drink your urine instead of tea in the morning? Moraji Desai used to do that, drink his midstream urine, first thing in the morning.

[dev]

Nichiro,

It's amazing to hear of the healing power of AUT... & also to see that so many follow AUT... I would like to hear more abt it from you all, though I don't intend to follow it as of now...

[Querida]

Nichiro so long time...good to hear from you :D

[r_kk]

I have cured myself of primary cancer warts which had started growing all over my neck region and on stomach.
I had a mouth leision and primary fibrosis had set in.
It is over ten years now after starting AUT.
Today I am hale and hearty without any health problems thanks to AUT.

Dear Mr. Nichiro,
Were you following only AUT without taking any conventional treatment?
If it is the case, please come out openly, declare for the sake of humanity and inform any cancer hospitals about this miracle cure!

Here most of the supporting posts are just self swearing.
Unfortunately, No one has presented any realistic data based on scientifically accepted results under controlled environment.

[Nichiro]

Nichiro,

It's amazing to hear of the healing power of AUT... & also to see that so many follow AUT... I would like to hear more abt it from you all, though I don't intend to follow it as of now...

Dev,
You said it. It is an amazing treatment.
But please do not think that it has answers to all ailments. AUT has limitations. Some diseases do not respond to AUT.In some ailments, it iscontra indicatory.

Cancers of most types respond favourably to AUT. Proof of its efficacy is strewn all over web.Just google.

I never took any conventional medication for my pre-cancerous warts and moles and fibrous swelling. It took about three months for moles/warts to get cured and oral fibrous swelling took another two or three months.

I know cancer very well since our family is a cancer prone one with five deaths attributed to stomach,oral,aesophagus cancers.
All due to Tobacco abuse. I was addicted to tobacco for over 25 years. Aut is just amazing.

[dev]

Nichiro,

Could U pls elobrate the AUT U underwent?... If what U say can be proven, I'm sure there would be many who would be ready to take AUT instead of suffering the pains from cancer & other such diseases...
Are there courses for AUT(like BHMS for homoeopathy) & are there consultants(doctors) who undergo proper training to advocate treatment... How didn U come to know abt AUT and what made you believe in this therapy & opt for this kind of treatment when there are many other options like ayur,homoeopathy etc available?...

[Nichiro]

Dev,
AUT is the simplest and the safest medication one can take.
You need to take about 2 oz of first urine daily in the morning on empty stomach.
Tea, coffee or breakfast can be taken after 1 hour of Urine ingestion.

Best time to drink urine is 4.30 to 5 AM.

It is taught as a subject (tbomk)in Aleternate therapy, Naturopathy course.
I don't know if any special AUT course is conducted.
There are two hospitals of repute specializing only in Urine Therapy.
One is in Ahmedabad and another is somewhere in Bihar.

My own written testimony is proof enough for what it did to me.
My dentist and my family doctors had warned me for over 5 years. In 1994 , he examined my mouth and gave me a final warning. That is when I wanted to try AUT.
This decision I took because I had seen dangers of Xray/chemotherapy treatment and disfigurment suffered by people.
I am happy today because I took right decision at right time.

[Alan]

before i tried it i was just like u or any of u ---its not any miracle or just a belief....urine really has exactly what our body need to be treated...


If urine has what our body needs to be treated(the minerals or whatever it is) , Y did the body excrete it????!!!... Y didn't it absord the req minerals before excretion???!!!... :?


Exactly, dev.

Nutrient-filled blood passes through the liver where toxins are removed to be excreted as solid waste. Eventually, this purified "clean" blood undergoes a filtering process in the kidneys, where excess water, salts, vitamins, minerals, enzymes, antibodies, urea, uric acid and other elements not usable at that time by the body are collected in the form of a purified, sterile, watery solution that is urine. The function of the kidneys is to keep the various elements in the blood balanced. The important elements in the blood are not filtered out because they are toxic and harmful to the body, but simply because the body does not need a particular concentration of an element at that specific point in time. It is this very regulating process of the kidneys that allows us to eat and drink more than our bodies need at any one time.

Sandeep, are you a doctor or a medical student?
Have you bothered to read up on the subject before misleading ppl?

Solid waste is not the product of the liver nor is from the blood. So the so called "Nutrient-filled blood" is a wrong term.
Solid waste is the endproduct of Digestion.

[Alan]

I have heard about it, but binal, are you serious? Sorry if I come across as insensitve or anything, because your father as you say has used it and believes it, but I mean how can you use urine? Really would like to know how you and your family reacted to it initially. How did you get over the natural disgust one feels for it?



Badri ,
ITS JUST NORMAL TO FEEL DISGUSTED TO DRINK ONES OWN URINE...
I felt the same things as anybody might feel about ingesting urine"disgusting". In the beginning even if my father talked about the urine therapy i felt disgusted..and then i read the books on those.....

But i knew my father got benefitted by it very much....he is an example for me apart from the experiences from the books i read.....even before i started some close relatives got interest in this and they started doing this...and believe me a very obese person with arthritis- after doing this lost their weight remarkably and their knee pain was almost gone.....and one more person who had all kinds of common problems even with slight change of food, water and air......got a lot and lot better and now that person travels without any problems...and more such experiences from our family and friends..
Sorry for some disgusting details here..U will feel it disgusting only if u have not done this.
Even i have not so uncommon some health problems....so i thought "do i want to continue to take medicines without seeing much improvement and harm my body with external chemicals OR do i want my own medicine without side effects"...Then i decided to start this...For the first time when i did that i was like eh....so disgusting i'm doing this....but i did it....in the beginning i felt it wierd...but then on after i got used to it i started to open my mind and then realised that IT tastes just like whatever I have had for food..for example- sweet, sour, salty, bitter depending on what we have had in the past few hours...

To my limited knowledge....because i have just started to read about it..
No- urine cant spread any infection. Urine is not human waste. Urine is the excess of what our body needs (if we read biology about urine production) plus it has antibodies to our own health problems. Stools/fecus is human waste which causes infection and contamination.

All this is amazing if it is true & its going above my head!

[Sandeep]

Alan,

Why dont you read from the beginning before unnessarily questioning my intensions.

I have made it clear that I dont know how AUT is carried out and that I am as curious as many hubbbers (excepts for those who have made up their mind).

I am reading around and posting new information I find. If its wrong please point out (as you seem to be doing) but stop personalizing the discussion.

[Alan]

My question is are you a Doctor?

[Sandeep]

Sandeep, are you a doctor or a medical student?
Have you bothered to read up on the subject before misleading ppl?

Solid waste is not the product of the liver nor is from the blood. So the so called "Nutrient-filled blood" is a wrong term.
Solid waste is the endproduct of Digestion.

No I am not a doctor but my comments where based on an article in Berkeley University Medical Journal.

Excerpts from an article in Berkeley University Medical Journal Fall 2002 Edition

"Urine is a purified derivative of the blood itself, made by the kidneys whose principal function is regulation of all the elements and their concentrations in the blood. Nutrient-filled blood passes through the liver where toxins are removed to be excreted as solid waste. Eventually, this purified blood undergoes a more extensive filtering process in the kidneys, where excess components not usable at that time by the body are collected in the form of the sterile, watery solution that is urine"

[Alan]

So, will you be drinking your urine from now on?
ok, good luck!

[Sandeep]

And soon the TV commercials will come
"Urine is the secret of my energy,
Its cheap,
Its healthy.
Start your day with a fresh glass of Urine".
:)

[Alan]

Oh? So will you be waiting until that?
*God*

[abbydoss1969]

Mr. chappani,

I have some questions regardint AUM;

1.Is there a duration of the course i.e. 90 days, 180 days etc

2.Is there any restriction on food like non veg , alcohol etc.

I,m sure there is. If so,

what happens if one takes nonveg , say, on the tenth day ,and can one leave the next day out then start again (the course,) you get what i,m trying to say?

3.what about allopathic medicines, should it be completely given up? and Ayurvedic medicines?