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tvsankar
4th May 2006, 01:57 PM
Dear Swathy,
Nice pick !! Adhigam kettadhu illai!!! Ippodhu dhan keten.

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

Renault
4th May 2006, 07:09 PM
Even I haven't heard this song much. But when I gave keen ears to listen I really appreciated Baroque's comments.

Nothing much to add but, just a good song sung in a simple elegant manner supported by some great interludes.

Hulkster
4th May 2006, 08:24 PM
I will provide my analysis to this song...first of all hats off to narayanan sir for picking such a soothing melody...:clap:

Prelude - The opening of the song starts off with the piano breezing through a melodic phase and then it slowly waves off into a flute piece going slowly and softly supported by the faint sound of violins which then finish off the prelude...as Usual for such songs IR will always orchestrate his preludes with either Guitar-flute-violin combo or violin-piano-flute combo..he has yet again done a different melodious attempt at fusing the piano and flute together.

Interludes - The first interlude just follows off from SPB's soulful singing where the violins are orchestrated to highlight the melodramatic tune but wavers in a slightly melodic way. In the second interlude the Piano just continues off from where it started from the prelude with a more sad overtone of violins accompanying it...following the interludes you will get the sense that this is a very sad song.

Tune - The monotonous beating of the tabla gives away the idea of the song and SPB's soulful singing brings the song to the fore...S Janaki has to be complimented for giving the tune a added lifeline with her seemingly sad singing.

This song can be termed as a melody and a lullaby with the way the interludes flow with the song...although Raja has given us similar songs...the use of the piano in the prelude and the second interlude has to be greatly commended. Once again hats off to narayanan sir for a great pick....:clap:...and excellent work by swathy to allow his pick..:D

Renault
5th May 2006, 06:56 AM
Friends,

I am finding a striking similarity (at least in the opening tune) between Kannil Enna and the song Thulli Thulli Pogum Penne song sung by KJY in a film named Velichham, muic scored by Manoj Gyan.

Hulkster
5th May 2006, 07:30 AM
Renault sir...antha paatu link kodunga...let me listen to the song too.

baroque
5th May 2006, 08:07 AM
Yes, tune has similarity. Thulli thulli.... Velicham - KJJ sings in higher octave. But the mood of these two songs are totally different!

baroque
5th May 2006, 08:07 AM
http://www.musicplug.in/songs.php?movieid=270&langid=8

swathy
5th May 2006, 09:01 AM
Dear Swathy,
Nice pick !! Adhigam kettadhu illai!!! Ippodhu dhan keten.

With Love,
Usha Sankar.


usha akka this song is picked by Narayanan :-)

swathy
5th May 2006, 09:01 AM
Thanks renault and Hulks:-)

narayanan
5th May 2006, 09:04 AM
Both Thulli Thulli and Kannil Enna have a similar bass guitar rhythm for the prelude ? :roll: sounds like it, can someone confirm.

swathy
5th May 2006, 09:04 AM
Date: May 5
Song: Pooviley Medai Naan Podavaa
Singers: Jayachandran,Susheela P.
Movie: Pagal Nilavu
Year of release: 1985
Director: Manirathnam

swathy
5th May 2006, 09:06 AM
I am not sure whether this movie comes in the movie. Its a good melody song. Experts are there to give more comments on the song. Let me listen to them :-)

Link: http://www.tamilsongs.net/page/build/album/Pagal_Nilavu/index.html

Other gems in the movie are Poo maalaiye thol serava, Vaarayo vaanmathi, maina maina.

Hulkster
5th May 2006, 06:38 PM
Swathy i have got to give it to you again...you found a brilliant song once again...my goodness just how many such songs were forgotten...thanks for reminding us of such songs Swathy...:thumbsup:

Prelude: The piano and bass guitar opens up with a westerisation touch which is soothing, briefly followed by a mesmerising soft flute piece which just gives you the wind blowing on you effect. Brilliant orchestration by IR who usually revels in giving us wonderful openings that usually underplay the tune.

Interludes: The Bass guitar plays like a background instrument for the first instrument which just brings the melodic effect with the flute combining with two instruments(another guitar or keyboard?) to add weight to the bass guitars melodic touch. The instrumentation has to be commended by IR here.

Tune: The faint beating of the drums and a interesting combination of lap clapping sound(possibly done on drums)makes up the instrument of the tune with the bass guitar playing as a undertouch(it sometimes sounds like a harp)....Jayachandran's singing is just like a cool winter breeze on the ears...he just brings out the life in the tune and can just put you to bliss with his vocal touches to the tune....What makes the tune interesting is the constant plucking of the bass guitar throughout the tune and the interludes which adds the soothing melodic effect.

Overall a mini song which would have been noticed better if it was given more time...nevertheless a brilliant melody by IR once again and thanks to swathy for picking such a gem...:clap:

Sanjeevi
5th May 2006, 08:42 PM
Date: May 5
Song: Pooviley Medai Naan Podavaa
Singers: Jayachandran,Susheela P.
Movie: Pagal Nilavu
Year of release: 1985
Director: Manirathnam

Fantastic song, one of my most favourite :D. I would rate this song equal to "Poo Maalaiyae Thool Seravaa"

Renault
5th May 2006, 09:18 PM
This song will fall under the same category as unsung greats in a single album.. similar to Paadavanthathor from Ilamai Kaalangal.

Hulkster has given the best description with proper dissection. I would probably rate this higher than all other songs in the movie.. awesome composition.

If one listens to such songs first-up in the morning.. am sure one's day is made fresh throughout.

I recommend all to try this. I have experienced this. Today's pick is an excellent excuse to beat stress.. the Raja way.

swathy
5th May 2006, 09:38 PM
Thanks hulks, sanjeevi and renault :-)

baroque
5th May 2006, 10:53 PM
Serene lullaby from Raaja! Song sung by Sarath Babu to his small kid and his hurting teenage sister-Revathi to comfort them to sleep! Picturization was very nice! Fantastic movie by Mani Rathnam!

tvsankar
6th May 2006, 12:32 AM
Dear Swathy,
Thanks for the response.

Poovilae - Simple orchestration!!!! Great Composition !!!

IR music il JC songs ellam enaku migavum pidikum.
Nanraga pornounce pannum oru best singer !!!

The song sounds sweetly because of JC !!!

Nalla bhavathudan padi irupar !!!!

IR in compositions ai purindhu konda oru good singer !!

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

rajeshkrv
6th May 2006, 03:53 AM
PS sings just few lines (for Radhika) .. Annai thandhai yaavume annan thanadi .. to console Revathy

all PJ-PS songs under IR's baton are GEMS

Poovile Medai
Kaalidasan Kannadasan
Mayanginen solla thayanginen
Manjal nilavukku indru ore sugam
poondhenral kaatre vaa
Unnai kaana thudithen indru thane
and many more

thanks for picking this gem

swathy
6th May 2006, 12:50 PM
Thanks baroque,usha akka and rajesh :-)

swathy
6th May 2006, 08:56 PM
rajasaranam : Please pour your comments then and there :cry:

We expect your active participation.

swathy
6th May 2006, 08:57 PM
Date: May 6
Song: Velakku Vaccha Nerathile
Singers: Ilaiyaraaja,Janaki. S.
Movie: Mundaanai Mudichu
Year of release: 1983
Director: K Bhagyaraj

rajasaranam
6th May 2006, 09:35 PM
swathy :shock:
When there are songs like Andhi varum neram and chinnuchirukiliyae... from the same movie why this song :) anyway its your SOTD Dont worry I love this song too :)

Wiil write on this song soon... its long time since I heard this song

baroque
6th May 2006, 09:49 PM
'velakku vecha nerathiley...' is a very catchy opening/title song composed by our Raaja! I will be back...

Renault
6th May 2006, 10:53 PM
Rajasaranam, In spite of the songs u mentioned being good as well, today's pick is the BEST.

Whenever this movie is telecasted I make sure that I watch this title song... Coz u will never get to see this song again except when the movie is shown.

One of the best SJ-IR melodies. Everything is too good for this song.. Raja and Janaki's smooth flow into this song.. the humming in the middle interludes, high-pitch and low pitch singing equally matched.

Another interesting aspect of this song is that Raja didn't give much musical intro.. it just suddenly begins...other example that comes to my mind is Saami Kitta (Avarampoo).

Swathy u are in temendous form with your picks and this one stands special as none of us expected this song for sure and I have to accept that this is certainly in my Top 25 Raja songs, though I don't normally rank my fav Raja songs.

swathy
7th May 2006, 12:31 PM
Thanks rajasaranam,renault,baroque.

rajasaranam : I dunno Im much attracted to this song. raja's voice for title song is an additional beauty for the movie.

Link : http://www.tamilsongs.net/page/build/album/Mudhanai_Mudichu/index.html

Hulkster
7th May 2006, 12:53 PM
Well let me say that swathy has just discovered another gem...:clap:

Usually IR's title songs are orchestrated in a way that it sticks with the audience mind as the idea of the movie...for example kanne navamaniyae for En Bommukutti Ammavakku usually supported with catchy/soulful singing rhythms. Velakku Vecha Nerathilae is one such song.

The tune is instrumentated with the medium paced beating of the thavil all the way and the flute supporting the singers when they sing "thanthanana"....but the real soul of the song is IR and Janaki's vocals that really lift the tune.

The first interlude is given a delightful description by the shenoy and the flute with our indian percussions here and there and the second interlude is basically a walkthrough of the chorus with the flute sounding here and there....IR has gone for the power of the lyrics and the liveliness of the vocals to bring out this song....brilliant pick by Swathy again..:clap:

RS sir maybe due to the more evident orchestration and more vibrant use of instruments in your above mentioned songs those songs seem classier but then again IR is one musician who can give us out of the world orchestrated songs and also give us a simple tune with no classic orchestration that is etched into our mind...:)

narayanan
7th May 2006, 12:54 PM
Never heard this song in the movie even though I've seen it quite a few times :roll: been a long time since Ive seen it too, lot of chances to forget too :?.

I did hear quite a few times now, very rustic, twilight feel duet song. I love the flute that plays along with Janaki. reminds me a lot of that haunting flute of 'Thaayum Naane' from 'Engeyo Ketta Kural'.

Like rajasaranam, I too seem to have a soft-corner for 'Andhi Varum Neram' and 'Chinnanjiru Kiliye', maybe bcos I havent heard this enough to grow on me :roll:

swathy
8th May 2006, 09:16 AM
Thanks Hulks, Narayan :-)

swathy
8th May 2006, 09:25 AM
Todays pick by: Narayanan


Date: May 8
Song: Vaana Mazhai Pola
Singers: Yesudas.K.J
Movie: Idu Namma Bhoomi
Year of release: 1992
Director: P.Vasu

Hulkster
8th May 2006, 10:36 AM
Oh..:shock:...Swathy would you mind sending me the link for this song...so that i could have a listen to this.

thamizhvaanan
8th May 2006, 01:27 PM
hulk listen here,

http://www.tfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/vaana.rm

thamizhvaanan
8th May 2006, 01:28 PM
hulk listen here,

http://www.dhool.com/sotd/vaana.rm

thamizhvaanan
8th May 2006, 01:31 PM
Another beautiful song by maestro, under the magical voice of yesudoss. whenever I listen to this song, i get reminded of Adnan sami' "Kabhi to nazar milavo" (bcoz thats the song I first heard among these).Just get a feeling that first line alone is similar, may be bcoz both are hindustani based, but i dont know.
I now have to search for this song in my archive bcoz my collection is very poorly indexed :D.

Hulkster
8th May 2006, 01:34 PM
Wokay...thanks for the link...will have to go home and listen though..streaming media is blocked here.

Renault
8th May 2006, 03:20 PM
Ilayaraja's response for Jagjit Singh type of songs lovers. This statement sums up the overall theme of this song.

But that's not complete there. A hindustani classic mixed with Raja's typical melody. A class song to show Raja's yet another versatile character.

Not heard this song much as well. Nice pick. Kudos to Narayanan and Swathy.

Actor Karthik, I think will not be far away from being a beneficiary of excellent Raja songs in their movies in the lines of Mohan, Suresh and Ramarajan.

tvsankar
8th May 2006, 03:59 PM
Dear Swathy,
NIce pick!!!KJY is best selection for this song !!! Beautiful minor scale !! ( i think) Indha padalain lyrics enaku migavum pidikum. !!
Nilaikum ganam idhu
nedu naal vazhum idhu

pazhi vangum pagai nenjam
isaiyal santhi perum !!!

ARaiyil pattedupen
arangam thevai illai
sabaiyil per eduka
kuyilgal isaipadhilai
enakae naan sugam serka
thinamum paduginren !!!

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

Hulkster
8th May 2006, 06:44 PM
Great pick narayanan sir...:clap:...As renault sir summarised it..this is a hindustanic classic song with raja's melodic touch.

Prelude - A familiar hindustani styled humming picks off unaccompanied with the soothing plucking of the guitar. The prelude is not focused much here by IR but we can guess from here that there is a hindustani touch in the orchestration.

Interludes - The first interlude has the mild beats of the western drum before the flute takes over in a melodic phase slowly accompanied by the sweet strumming of our veenai which at the end goes into a fusion with the flue which is quite refreshing to hear...brilliant orchestration in the veenai piece by IR. The second interlude starts the same way with the flute piece replaced by a jazzy style of trumpeting and a short fusion with the veenai..you can fall in love with the way the jazz notes are orchestrated here.

Tune - The tune has the hindustani style of beating the thavil and thats all for the instrumentation part. But be put into bliss by yesudoss fluent singing...he just makes it sound like we are listening to a hindustani song but at the same time he also brings out the trademark raja melody style...complicated rhythms yet made simple by Yesudoss....listen to this song without the hindustani instrumentation and give our tamil
style of beating the thavil and you can feel IR's melody more.

A really unpicked gem by Narayanan sir...thanks for this...:thumbsup: and lets hope we can expect such fusions in the forcoming hindi films of IR...:D

ab_123
8th May 2006, 06:45 PM
Lovely song Swaty and NN. My only observation is that the instrumentation and vocals compliment each other. Neither drowning the other.

rajasaranam
8th May 2006, 07:01 PM
:shock: 'Idhu Namma Bhoomi' la ippadi Oru Paatta??? Oh my Iam hearing it for the first time...thanks narayanan and swathy for a find like this :)

Sanjeevi
8th May 2006, 08:13 PM
:shock: 'Idhu Namma Bhoomi' la ippadi Oru Paatta??? Oh my Iam hearing it for the first time...thanks narayanan and swathy for a find like this :)

Ennanthu :shock: . This song is popular one amoung IR fans. Rajasaranam sir nijamagave neenga itha ithukku munnadi kettathu illaiya :?

narayanan
8th May 2006, 08:48 PM
Even I was wondering how rajasaranam missed out this song
~~~~~
The movie released in 1992, dont even remember hearing about the movie then. Very ordinary village feud type movie, nevertheless failed BO. heard it first when I saw the movie somewhere in mid-90s.

Its kind of a melting moonlit song which Karthik sings in reply to an arrogant carnatic styled mini song Kushbu sings(i guess 'Jhankara sudhi seiguvai' ?). I have a special attraction towards Yesudas songs, especially the Yesudas-IR combo. This song would be in the selected list of them. The highlight is the lyrics.

idhayam rathiriyil isaiyal amaidhi perum
irukkum kaayamellam isaiyal aarividum
kodhikkum paalayilum isaiyal poo malarum
irumbu parayilum isaiyal neer kasiyum
pazhi vangum pagai nenjam
isaiyal santhi perum

were my personal favourite. Cant exclude the interludes or the short set of swarams either.

'Aaradi Suvaruthan' was the other popular song in the movie.

thamizhvaanan
8th May 2006, 09:39 PM
:shock: 'Idhu Namma Bhoomi' la ippadi Oru Paatta??? Oh my Iam hearing it for the first time...thanks narayanan and swathy for a find like this :)

yenpaa, naane indha paata neraya vaati kettirukene. Just too good to miss out :D.

rajasaranam
8th May 2006, 09:55 PM
Enake Romba Aacharyam intha song :oops: I havent seen the movie or heard the album :( have heard 'Aaradi suvaruthaan' and seen it a couple of times in TV's. But honestly i missed out this song.
Iam a fan of IR offlate only..precisely from 1997 only I started lsitening to his songs more often and started collecting his songs from 2000 only. Till then I was more of a fan like to ARR. Thats why i missed this song. Anyway thanks for enlightening me about this gem :)

Sanjeevi
8th May 2006, 10:40 PM
KJJ rocks in this song :thumbsup:. One of the best classical based song from Raja

thamizhvaanan
8th May 2006, 10:43 PM
Enake Romba Aacharyam intha song :oops: I havent seen the movie or heard the album :( have heard 'Aaradi suvaruthaan' and seen it a couple of times in TV's. But honestly i missed out this song.
Iam a fan of IR offlate only..precisely from 1997 only I started lsitening to his songs more often and started collecting his songs from 2000 only. Till then I was more of a fan like to ARR. Thats why i missed this song. Anyway thanks for enlightening me about this gem :)

I am IR fan from feb 2006 :D. i was just lucky that this song happend to be in the collection i got :D. Aaradi suvaru thaan is also a superb song :thumbsup:.

rajeshkrv
9th May 2006, 05:29 AM
Lyrics for Vaana mazhai is by Vaali
b'ful lyrics, soothing tune and honey dripping voice by KJY makes this song an IR classic

Hulkster
9th May 2006, 06:30 AM
Enake Romba Aacharyam intha song :oops: I havent seen the movie or heard the album :( have heard 'Aaradi suvaruthaan' and seen it a couple of times in TV's. But honestly i missed out this song.
Iam a fan of IR offlate only..precisely from 1997 only I started lsitening to his songs more often and started collecting his songs from 2000 only. Till then I was more of a fan like to ARR. Thats why i missed this song. Anyway thanks for enlightening me about this gem :)

I am IR fan from feb 2006 :D. i was just lucky that this song happend to be in the collection i got :D. Aaradi suvaru thaan is also a superb song :thumbsup:.

Feb 2006 munaadi neenga yaarodeiya fan...:twisted:

I myself have never heard half of IR's gems...thanks to swathy and narayanan i only get to listen to such songs..if not i would have been stuck with only the most famous songs.

narayanan
9th May 2006, 06:46 AM
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Enake Romba Aacharyam intha song :oops: I havent seen the movie or heard the album :( have heard 'Aaradi suvaruthaan' and seen it a couple of times in TV's. But honestly i missed out this song.
Iam a fan of IR offlate only..precisely from 1997 only I started lsitening to his songs more often and started collecting his songs from 2000 only. Till then I was more of a fan like to ARR. Thats why i missed this song. Anyway thanks for enlightening me about this gem :)

I am IR fan from feb 2006 :D. i was just lucky that this song happend to be in the collection i got :D. Aaradi suvaru thaan is also a superb song :thumbsup:.

Some of the songs I liked rare and hit ones are mostly from yesteryear Oliyum Oliyum and the Friday, Saturday, Sunday movies in DD that used to bring out the obscurest movies under the sun. Inspired from them, I occasionally collected a few songs. I used to be an ardent ARR fan.Collect every cassette until 97. Although started in college. A more serious IR song following and song collection would'nt have been a reality without TFMPage (along with Doordarshan and Chennai 107.1 FM).

Understandable most of us seem to have unearthed IR gems only after internet revolution ;)


Feb 2006 munaadi neenga yaarodeiya fan

Depends on when one gets a chance to explore such songs right ? ;) Morover one would'nt be able to appreciate unless you know what to look for in the song :roll:
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Hulkster
9th May 2006, 07:22 AM
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Yeaps certainly...IR's orchestration in inji iduppazhaga was what brought me back to him...i was a neutral before i heard his songs...i remembered his songs at a young age but did not remember who did it...only through my father did i managed to get his songs...and now loving every moment of it...:thumbsup:
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thamizhvaanan
9th May 2006, 07:38 AM
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Depends on when one gets a chance to explore such songs right ? ;) Morover one would'nt be able to appreciate unless you know what to look for in the song :roll:
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Exactly my thoughts :thumbsup: . and it also depends upon ur state of mind. how well u respond to the weirdos of the MD, at times u dont strike the frequency of the MD, and dont really understand the beauty of the songs. It all combines to give this experience.

"Enimel Hulk", I was an ARR fan and I am still an ARR fan :) .

baroque
9th May 2006, 09:41 AM
What a soulful, magical ghazal type composition! Beautifully executed by KJJ!!

Hulkster
9th May 2006, 09:49 AM
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Depends on when one gets a chance to explore such songs right ? ;) Morover one would'nt be able to appreciate unless you know what to look for in the song :roll:
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Exactly my thoughts :thumbsup: . and it also depends upon ur state of mind. how well u respond to the weirdos of the MD, at times u dont strike the frequency of the MD, and dont really understand the beauty of the songs. It all combines to give this experience.

"Enimel Hulk", I was an ARR fan and I am still an ARR fan :) .

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I was actually nakkalifying u asking before feb 2006 neenga yaarodeiya fan nu....oru nakkal response varaamal elaborate response ellam varathu...cheh...:D

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Yeaps baroque...soulful is the apt word to describe this composition...mahadev had innovative compositions from IR too..listening to it sometimes you wonder why our north indian friends can still ignore IR...:|

swathy
9th May 2006, 12:39 PM
Thanks thamizh,Hulks,renault,usha akka,aruna,rajasaranam,sanjeevi,narayanan,rajesh :-)

swathy
9th May 2006, 02:18 PM
Date: May 9
Song:Athikaalai Neyramey
Singers: Balasubramaniam S.P.,Janaki. S.
Movie: Meendum Oru Kaadhal Kadhai
Year of release: 1985

Link: http://as07.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=226579

bingleguy
9th May 2006, 02:21 PM
Excellent Song Swathy :clap: thanks for the update too

Renault
9th May 2006, 10:22 PM
Wow!!



Swathy, u seem to pick diamonds from Maestro's creations. Amazing song.

I have seen movies waiting for some special songs. Today's pick is one such. Not sure whether the movie has any other songs.

The opening of this song is fantastic with sounds resembling bell sounds slowly leading into the song begining. This song was also picturised well with Pratap and Radhika.. acting brilliantly as lunatics. The theme is very difficult so as to signify love between two mentally retarted people.. in their own world.. it needed such a subtle melody and who else would have come with such a brilliant composition.

I would require Baroque's assistance here as I seem to pick some counterpoint effects in this song..

eg: The tune in one of the charanams

1. Kaatrodu Modhum...

2. Kaveri Neer Alai adhu...

3. Engengilum sugam..

All have different tunes and seems like a counterpoint for each one's predecessor.. I am just writing the lyrics as I think of this song... Guess the lyrics are right.

I remember seeing Pratap's interview recently where he said Meendum Oru.. was actually the first tamil film to get a National Award and not Samsaaram Adhu... as most of us believe. Raja's song is certainly a crowning jewel in the movie's credentials.

Have to give it to you Swathy, once again.. all your selections Rocks!!!

narayanan
10th May 2006, 04:01 AM
Is'nt this the movie with characters like Juju thatha, gappi,sarasu. guess this movie won the national award too. Never knew that movie had such a nice song :o

Mildly reminds me of 'Vizhiyile Mani Vizhiyile' from 'Nooravadhu Naal'. Both their voices sounds somewhat different, especially Janaki's.

baroque
10th May 2006, 06:13 AM
[tscii:c48b10b459]Thanks a lot Swathi! Last time I listened to this song was early 90s!!
Lilting tune, SPB & Janaki carries away caressingly!
Intricate orchestral work by Raaja!
Prelude starts with Violin Sonata (ie more than one movement for one or more instruments!). (within 0:08 sec more than one violin displaying more than one movement)
Second interlude has group of violins (quartet??? three or four) & piano(Sonata also means musical composition with piano accompaniment) It is PERCUSSION LESS segment. — That is the specialty of this magical music!! But first interlude has percussion!

Counterpoint is different from Sonata.
Counterpoint is theme contrasting with main theme-emphasize by/is contrast!
In this song-prelude doesn’t have counterpoint.
Second interlude also doesn’t have counterpoint!
Let me THANK Mr.CSR of Yahoo IR group for these vocabularies! Please correct me if I am wrong!
Vinatha.[/tscii:c48b10b459]

Hulkster
10th May 2006, 07:15 AM
Great pick swathy yet again...:clap:...let me post my views on this song.

Prelude - This song starts off with a eerie like movement of the violin before moving to a more broader movement of the violin and swiftly changing into a keyboard composition which contradicts the violin movement sounding more delightful which is then ended by the all too familiar melodic movements of the violins...brilliant orchestration in the first part by Raja possibly reflecting on the condition of the two lovers.

Interludes - The first interlude is a delightful tale of violins which baroque and renault have highlighted with two violins being orchestrated to possibly show the doomed feelings of the two lovers and another pair of violins inverse to the movement of the first pair of violins playing before swiftly accompanied by the flute to show a soothing effect. The second interlude is a even more complex and intricate orchestration of the violins. At the start a pair of violins start building the tempo before moving into a minimised relfection of the first interlude with another pair of violins again inverse to the movement of the first pair..but what is more surprising is the changes between the minor and major scale in the second phase of the first pair of violins and the second pair of violins. Even more sweeter is the monotonous movement of a violin which is being played differently from the usual style of playing violins..sounding more like a interbreed between our carnatic violin and the guitar. I really have to give it to IR for the orchestration in both interludes in which the second pair(playing softly) contradicting the first pair(louder ones) that just brings out the doomed effect...:clap:

Tune - The tune is accompanied by percussions and a very mild movement of the violins. There is a very catchy rhythm when athi kaalai neramae puthithaana raagamae is sung which i guess is the charanam. This adds a more pacey melodic effect to the song. The impressions has to be on the orchestration of the violins by IR.

I can see why renault sir feels it sounds like a counterpoint where the violins meet each other...at first i thought it was a counterpoint as both are playing different movements and they meet without complicating each other...but seeing it again the violins are actually complimenting each other which rules out the counterpoint.

Thanks to baroque and renault sir for raising the doubts and giving us detailed information on the song..:clap:

And two claps for Swathy for picking a classic gem...:clap: :clap:

venus05
10th May 2006, 09:28 AM
One more song where one of the interludes does not have any Percussion is "Illamai ennum poongatru" (Pagallil oru iravu) the second interlude does not have any percussion instrument. Base guitar is used for percussion.

An interesting thing in this song is in the first interlude Tabla comes for 10 to 12 seconds (with flute) and in the whole song tabla does not come at all.

Again talking about counterpoint the pallavi is sung without counterpoint (chorous) and then again it is sung with counterpoint. Please note that in the middle of all the saranam (in all the three) there is an excellent counterpoint.
(thanks to threads on Counterpoint by our Old TFers and composers Srikkanth D, Rjay and Sridhar seetharaman, Swamiji et all..)

Another interesting thing about this song is the instrument Santhoor is consistently used in Prelude and in all other interludes as well. The whole song runs for 4:11 seconds and duration of every interlude (~26 secs) is more than the saranams (~23 secs).

On every listening this song reveals something new amazing composition.
Thanks.

swathy
10th May 2006, 09:49 AM
Thanks Bingle,renault,baroque,hulks,narayanan,venus :D

ezy0265
10th May 2006, 03:54 PM
Swathy,

Thanks for picking a song which I uploaded in goolgoose some time back. It is a very rare song and I was searching for a clear copy for many years. Finally I managed to get a CD with SPB/SJ duets and I simply bought the CD just for this one song!

He has used, for the first time in Tamil music I guess, Indonesian Bamboo percussion in parts of the interludes and it simply lifts the song to very great heights where no one else can reach.

The melody and mood of this song is so heavenly that it did and still does bring me into an heavenly state everytime I hear this song.

How great it would be if such gems are re-recorded with digital technology again with the same orchestration!!! The only sad thing is SJ is loosing her voice and SPB would probably still do justice to the song if done again now.

swathy
10th May 2006, 06:08 PM
Thanks ezy :-)

narayanan
10th May 2006, 06:09 PM
Venus,
is this (http://www.la10.tfmpage.com/forum/16443.14.00.33.html) the writeup about counterpoint you were talking about ? Can someone just put in layman words what a counterpoint is ? :D

swathy
10th May 2006, 06:09 PM
Date: May 10
Song: Netru vandha kaatru
Singers: Ilaiyaraaja,Janaki. S.
Movie: Kanmani
Year of release:1994
Director: RK.Selvamani

Link: http://as07.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=225013

Sanjeevi
10th May 2006, 06:58 PM
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Song: Netru vandha kaatru
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Nice song.

The same song was used by Karthik Raja in his hindi venture "Grahan".

Hulkster
11th May 2006, 07:53 AM
Swathy another good pick..although its not a out of the world orchestration..the song's tune has IR's stamp all over it and it shows he is still refreshed.

Prelude - The flute starts off on a soothing note before raising the tempo towards the end...a beautifully orchestrated flute piece reminding us of the pre 80s era.

Interludes - The flute is starting off from where it began in the prelude with a mild movement of the violins in the background...basically a slightly minimised version of the prelude with violins. This gets repeated when the singers finish a stanza as in a sort of theme music in that tune.

Tune - The tune is accompanied by a catchy beating of the western drums which adds to the mesmerising rhythms of the song...Raja has focussed on the tune and the vocals without adding any complex orchestration or instrumentation. Possibly this song highlights the feelings of the lead pair when they come to know they are in love...and the theme music like flute piece accompanies the tune once a particular stanza possibly the charanam is finished...which at times resembles like a interval to the song.

The tune is definitely very catchy and the real heroes of this song is the catchy rhythms of the tune and the soft singing of the lead duo who bring out the emotions of delight in love aptly...good pick swathy..:clap:

swathy
12th May 2006, 09:19 AM
Thanks Sanjeevi and Hulks :-)

swathy
12th May 2006, 09:20 AM
Date: May 12
Song: Eriyile Elandha Maram
Singers: Ilaiyaraaja,Janaki. S.
Movie: Karaiyellam Sembagapoo
Year of release: 1981

Link: http://as07.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=181944

Hulkster
12th May 2006, 06:56 PM
Surprised no one has posted their comments about this beautiful song...swathy great pick again..next time i wunt be saying great pick as i have decided everything is great..:D

Prelude - The sweet strumming of the guitar is succeeded by the famous chanting of sa re ga ma
and then a vocal choir piece singing the charanams which is very catchy and at the same time soothing to hear. Good innovation by IR to include the sa re ga ma chants to give a different side to the song.

Interludes - The first interlude starts off with a delightful flute piece which combines with the guitar in the background well. Then there is a two combo with the flute-choir-flute-choir before the keyboard takes over....the village chanting at the end is a surprise end to the first interlude. The second interlude is actually a two counterpoint humming by the choir which then briskly flows into a mini concerto of various tamil instruments...the thavil...western drums and our urumi mellam...it is really a masterpiece by IR in the two counterpoint humming in the choir and the concerto.

Tune - The tune is instrumentated by a medium beating of the thavil...and is basically a tamil village folk song. But the real catch and genius at display is the use of the choir to make it sound like those songs in churches where the choir usually brings out the music whenever the lead singers sings...this is really innovative and a different attempt by IR as the lead singer's singing is accompanied by the choir which really does remind us of the church choirs..and to a certain extent the humming in african songs...brilliant by IR...:clap:

Swathy thanks for picking out a song that is really to say the least out of the world...especially the counterpoints in the second interlude and the choir implementation in the tune...:clap:

rajeshkrv
13th May 2006, 09:48 AM
eru pudichavare -solo by PS is another beautiful song from this thriller

Renault
13th May 2006, 07:00 PM
Have to admit that haven't heard this song before.

An interesting and a very good selection.. I was reminded of songs of similar genre such as Naan Pudiccha Maappillai (mundhanai mudicchu).. as this also happens like a fun-making song.

I liked Hulks dissection especialy the guitar strumming one. Raja has very intelligently mixed guitar with Sare-gama singing by the chorus and the same leads into an absolute native song.

Swathy, I understand your taste for Raja's nativity songs. Keep on the good work and thanks for introducing this song.

swathy
13th May 2006, 07:46 PM
Thanks Hulks,rajesh and renault :-)

rajasaranam
15th May 2006, 04:02 PM
An interesting and a very good selection.. I was reminded of songs of similar genre such as Naan Pudiccha Maappillai (mundhanai mudicchu).. as this also happens like a fun-making song.


YEah I too found the similarities between this and 'Naan Pudicha' song when i listened to it.
I saw the movie during a lazy afternoon telecast in one of the channels few months back.I missed the titles and some portion of the movie. Whenever i see an unknown movie[ atleast for me] from the late 70's or early 80's i try to concentrate on the BGM and song to find out who the MD is :) I was watching this movie for sometime and i knew it should be Raja the instant some BGM pieces came by. but I confirmed it only after listening to this song :thumbsup:
A classical example of fusion between Indian and western Classical with folk music. the transition or the fusion between these forms are seemless and nobody could categorise this into any of the genres.
On a side note when i started catergorising IR's songs in MP3 tag I found such difficulties... sooner i found them to be of the genre 'ILaiyaraaja' and now all my mp3 collection of Raja's songs are categorised and tagged as 'genre Ilaiyaraaja' :)
The choral work in this songs is amazing and I wonder why this man is not doing such works anymore :(
There is another song in this movie goes like 'Kalyaana raaman' which has got interesting lyrics and a fusion of western pop and tamil folk
Nice pick swathy :thumbsup:

swathy
15th May 2006, 06:44 PM
nandri rajasaranam :-)

swathy
15th May 2006, 06:55 PM
Date: May 15
Song: Poovaadai Kaatru Vandhu Kanam
Singers: Janaki. S.,Krishnachandar
Movie: Gopurangal Saayvathillai
Year of release: 1982

Link: http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=171720

Hulkster
15th May 2006, 07:44 PM
Its another swathy gem...and its yet another dissection..nandris wathy..:notworthy:

Prelude - The prelude starts off with a single rhythm beat of a instrument which gives us the "wake-up" effect underlined by a katcheri like vocal chords by the singer reflecting on the love blossoming between the lead pair. And the sudden surprise is when your expecting a monotonous tune..the guitar comes out gleefully to depict the tune putting off the listener of any sad/katcheri song format.

Interludes - After a short two instrument combination by the keyboard and a harp like instrument the guitar takes off in the usual extraordinary format which is very melodious followed by a more slower strumming of the guitar which is pleasing on the ears. The second interlude starts off on a high pitched flute piece which descends to a low tempo with a percussion accompanying it to give the soothing jazz effect which then transcends into a fast paced melodious piece given two version displayed by the guitar then the keyboard which ends off the interlude on a different note.

Tune - This is one of the many famous catchy melodious tunes given by IR for us made even more sweeter by the lead pair's singing..especially the la la la chorus which is soft. The basic instrumentation is a very slow beating of the thavil and western percussions with a very very mild strumming of the guitar which accompanies the charanams...overall a beautiful masterpiece from IR with another mastering of the guitar particularly in the prelude and interludes...nanri swathy intha paathukaaga..:thumbsup:

ab_123
15th May 2006, 11:11 PM
Catchy tune. Has the male singer sung other songs? I don't think I've heard of his name before. He seems like a relatively new singer in the song.

rajasaranam
15th May 2006, 11:30 PM
KrishanChandar also sang another song i think is it 'Thendral ennai muthamittathu' :?

app_engine
16th May 2006, 01:43 AM
ab_123:
Following are some songs by Krishnachandar:

-EdhO mOham, Edho dhAham....(kOzhi koovudhu, with SJ)
-aLLi vachcha malligaiyE....(inimai idhO idhO, with PS)
-poo vAdaikkAtRu....(gOpurangaL saivadhillai, with SJ)
-thendRal ennai muththamittadhu (oru Odai nadhiyAgiRadhu, with BSS)

app_engine
16th May 2006, 01:44 AM
I think there's another song also in gOpurangaL sAivadhillai...by KC - `pudichchAlum pudichchEn'...

app_engine
16th May 2006, 01:47 AM
Swathy, thanks for the link on `EriyilE elandha maram'...I can't help but keep humming for the last 3 days...appadiyE ottikkichchu:-)

Great find!

"karaiyellAm shenbagappoo" was one grand album that was not noticed much:-(

swathy
16th May 2006, 03:18 PM
Thanks hulks,aruna,app_engine :-)

rajasaranam : y no comments for the song? :roll:

vasanth2006
16th May 2006, 05:57 PM
Swathy You are picking some rare gems recently instead of very popular ones.

Good work. :thumbsup:

Regarding KC, raja should have used him more.i think his voice is fresh and different.(the same goes to Deepan chakravarthy, arun mozhi, etc)

You can see the freshness of KC in "alli vacha malligaiye" from the film "ilamai itho itho" or "inimai itho itho"(?).

swathy
16th May 2006, 06:49 PM
thanks vasanth :-)

narayanan
16th May 2006, 07:11 PM
Wow what a catchy tune :) never heard any song other than 'En Purushanthaan' from this movie

ab_123
16th May 2006, 08:19 PM
Thanks Rajasaranam and App_engine.

Renault
16th May 2006, 08:24 PM
Yet another Raja's gift for a Mohan movie. Has some resemblences to Paadavanthathor (Ilaiami Kaalangal).. with regards to subtle singing of the male singer in certain areas of the song.

The opening lead instrumental is very catchy as well.

swathy
17th May 2006, 08:59 AM
Thanks narayanan and renault :-)

swathy
17th May 2006, 09:38 AM
Date: May 17
Song: Engirundo Azhaikkum En Jeevan
Singers: Ilaiyaraja , Lata Mangeshkar
Movie: En Jeevan Paaduthe
Year of release: 1988

Link:
1. Ilaiyaraja : http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=173472
2. Lata : http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=167967

ab_123
17th May 2006, 07:14 PM
I didn't know that Lata.M. sang in Tamil under IR (that too back in '88).

Never heard this one before. Thanks Swathy.

app_engine
17th May 2006, 07:41 PM
ab_123,
`vaLaiyOsai kala kala kalavena' (sathya) kEttadhillaiyA? It's by LM & SPB under Raja's baton...another song that I can think of is `ArArO, ArArO' in Anand...

You probably know that LM's sister (adhu dhANga Asha Bhonsle / Burman) sang `sheNbagamE' in mid 80's...(enga ooru pAttukkAran) and a few others...

Hulkster
17th May 2006, 08:22 PM
This song is a melodious and soothing song....nice pick swathy...:thumbsup:

Prelude - With the usual hindustani styled intro by Lataji with her broad humming...her voice is supported by a great interplay of violins in the background with the first part sounding quite eerie and the second part going into a high tempo of delight...brilliant orchestration in the violins part by IR...:clap:

Interludes - The violins come again going high and then low possibly reflecting on the contradiction of feelings of the heroine before flowing into a monotonous yet melodious manner with the keyboard providing the melodious effect and the violins providing the monotonous effect before ending off in vintage IR style at the end. The second interlude has the violins ascending higher and higher into a pathos mood before the keyboard goes into a very monotonous version. However here comes the masterpiece of the violins coming in a brisk movement and then changing into a high pitched movement which is underplayed by the same movement but more low pitched which contradicts each other before ending on a more faster version of the starting violin movements. Innovative violin orchestration towards the end of the second interlude by IR.

Tune - The tune is made up of the usual slow paced beating of the thavil and it just relies on the fluidity of the singer's vocals and the lyrics but listen to the end of the tune when the familiar tragedic sounding movement of the violins complement the singer's vocals. Without even listening to the tune you can understand that something tragedic is going to happen by listening to the orchestration of the violins in the end...in one word..mesmerising..:clap:

As for the IR version...it is even more pathos sounding and the prelude starts off differently with a single rhythm beat of some percussion before the nasal voice of IR takes over the song...however i prefer the lata version as it has the orchestration of violins in vintage IR style...great pick swathy..:clap:

rajeshkrv
18th May 2006, 02:03 AM
Engirundho duet version is by Mano and Latamangeshkar

there is a solo by LM and IR separately

selvakumar
19th May 2006, 10:34 AM
Today's pick by: Swathy
Date: May 19
Song: Uyire Uyire Urugaathey
Singers: Janaki. S.,Yesudas.K.J
Movie: Oruvar Vaazhum Aalayam
Year of release: 1988

Link:: http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=165226

selvakumar
19th May 2006, 03:41 PM
Friends. Swathy is out of station. So, I am posting her pick for today here. :D Continue your discussions on this ! :)

Hulkster
20th May 2006, 06:44 PM
I am not able to listen to this song as there are some gliches in the song but of what i can hear this is a pathos melody which is really made even more emotional by janaki's almost cry like singing...and the tune is instrumentated by the thavil with it going very pathos like. The interludes are a brilliant shade of violins...i could not hear very well but just hearing some of the violins moving soulfully just can bring tears in your eyes...great orchestration as usual by IR in the violins part.

Great pick swathy...this is one of IR's forte..pathos melody which he is really a genius at...another type of pathos melody is where instead of violins human vocals are made to sound soulful...:clap:

swathy
22nd May 2006, 04:20 PM
Thanks selva, hulks :-)

y no response for this song from other hubbers? :roll:

vasanth2006
23rd May 2006, 03:55 PM
good and rare pick swathy.

this is the raja's trademark and as usual pathos song.

as hulkster said, the singers(KJJ and janaki) are crying and singing in the second saranam.

the tabala's rhythm pattern is simple.And from starting to end of the song, it wont change.

in the first interlude there is solo violin bit, that will take in to complete pathos mood.after completion of that bit, the talking between flute and piano will start. i feel they are talking with each other.

the lyrics also good.(ex: "Nee enthan thayaga naan unthan seyaga marum nerame")

Another important thing is i think Raja definitely reused this pallavi's tune as "kuyile kuyile" in "pulan visaranai".(i dont know which movie first came?)
Do you guys feel that?

swathy
23rd May 2006, 04:22 PM
Thanks vasanth :-)

swathy
23rd May 2006, 04:23 PM
Date: May 23
Song: Then Paandi Thamizhey En Singaara Kuyiley
Singers: Chitra.K.S,Yesudas.K.J
Movie: Paasa Paravaigal
Year of release: 1988

Link:: http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=135003

bingleguy
23rd May 2006, 04:24 PM
:-) Very nice Song ! Good Choice Swathy !

app_engine
23rd May 2006, 11:24 PM
This song is so dear to me...often in repeat mode on the car...very soothing...the "special effect" sounds in the first interlude (flute? keyboard? synthesiser?) is awesome and I used to wonder as to what instrument is this, when it got released...I have same question till now...though it's similar to the "vizhiyilE malarndhadhu" flute sound (one that comes just before the saraNam begins as `kaiyaLavu pazhuththa mAdhuLai'), one cannot conclude it's flute...(may be pan flute?)...

tabla beats...hmmm...I can keep listening to them for any amount of time...udalukkum manadhukkum nanmai payakkum isai...

Chitra is awesome, especially bringing in so much power to the song when she starts 'vAzhththi unnaippAdavE...'. Dasettan is as cool as ever, scoring another smoothie...

only chinnappisiRu, IMHO, is the way Chitra says `ravi vaRRRmAvin Ovium'...konjam vallina Ra pOl enakkuththONum...otherwise a perfect song...

ab_123
24th May 2006, 08:10 PM
Nice soothing song. Thanks.

rami
25th May 2006, 11:52 AM
Its a gr8 song Swathy..

The lyrics, tune and the voices perfectly merge and the song is a treat to hear..

Hulkster
25th May 2006, 12:18 PM
Swathy....thanks for picking another gem..i used to listen to this song when i was young..but i did not know the movie..thanks for reminding me...:thumbsup:

Prelude - The Veenai intro is truly mesmerising to say the least. It is melodious and at the same time catchy...you just feel like IR uses the veenai like the bass guitar at times..the tempo he uses for this veenai piece just sticks into your mind straight away..another instance is in the start of the namthana namthana song where the veenai is used as a pacey instrument. The flute then ends the prelude with a slight adaptation of the tune with the usual vintage IR touch.

Interlude - The keyboard used in the first stanza depicts delightness like a butterfly flying..the whole piece just gives you that feel and it is then contradicted by the more soulful sounding violins piece which just moves between melancholy and delight. IR is adept at using interludes to tell two tales of feelings using his instrumentation and orchestration like one instrument playing the delightful version before another instrument showing it in a more different manner with innovative notes. The chorus ends this interlude in the same style as the violins. The second interlude starts with a violin playing high and low the whole way before it complements the chorus. The chorus is actually the same adaptation of the violins of the first interlude with the voices being more melancholic while the violins were somewhere in between. The flute and veenai end this interlude with the flute playing the charanam and the veenai ending it very swiftly. Innovative orchestration as usual by IR..:thumbsup:

Tune - The tune is instrumentated by the tabla with the violins coming at times to heighten the feelings. Basically this is a melancholic romantic melody with KJY sounding his usual style. Yesudoss is the singer who actually makes a difference with his monotonous singing at the soulful parts and a totally contradicting more delightful and soothing singing in the pallavi. Chitra only has little verses to sing but as usual she compliments the yesudoss with her notable flair.

Basically one of IR's best unsung gems which is one of his genre...I think it is safe to say that even under melodies IR ha created various genres like catchy,pacey and melancholic melodies...this is just one of them.
Thanks for this brilliant song swathy..:clap:

rajeshkrv
26th May 2006, 03:49 AM
thenpandi thamizhe good lyrics by vaali
and KJY &KSC does justice

swathy
26th May 2006, 07:35 PM
Thanks bingle,app_engine,aruna,rami,hulks,rajesh :-)

swathy
26th May 2006, 07:36 PM
Date: May 26
Song: Oh unnale naan penn aanane
Singers: Mano,Uma Ramanan
Movie: En Arukil Nee Irundhaal
Year of release: 1991

Link: http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=203452

My comments: Beautiful romantic song which I like to listen when I am alone or when I travel. I enjoy each bit in this song. I expect Hulks to explain in detail abt the flute, violin etc.

Hulkster
27th May 2006, 10:34 AM
Naan vettiya irupethu naalae explain penna solluraengela...ithai naan vanmaiyaga kandikkiraen...:x

Anyways a different pick from Swathy...i will have to give abit of explanation for this song's tune as it is very similar.

Prelude - The flute starts off the song haunting yet melodiously...just like in IR's singing self in nothing but wind..like its expressing a emotion before smoothly translating into a adaptation of the tune in the usual IR style.

Interludes - The flute is back in the first interlude going abit high pitched and perhaps continuing the tune in a more emotive way. As usual the orchestration is typical IR...usually IR uses his flutes to continue the tune but adds a different emotion like movement to make it appealing on first hearing. The more captivating part is the flute is only accompanied by silence(excluding the tune's instrumentation) like in his Singing self track. This soon transcends into the violins moving delightfully to change the emotions expressed by the violin to that more of exuberance which is then ended by a instrument sounding like a very mild version of the harp(keyboard?). The second interlude is a mini adaptation of the last stanza sung by the singers using three different instruments...flute followed by the flute and that soft harp like instrument combo before the violin emoting the last part of the stanza. A typical IR orchestration in the second interlude with the difference being the usage of three instruments to emote the last stanza(charanam)...and a very soothing high pitched orchestration in the flute of the first interlude.

Tune - The tune is very soft on the ears and is perhaps described best by the singer's singing. I guess this might be a instance when the heroine is expressing herself in the bedroom before the hero. It is quite melodious and abit catchy at the same time when the singers sing Oh..unaalae. Uma ramanan should be given the honours for bringing out the expressions in the tune which is otherwise very soft. The basic instrumentation is a combo of the tabla,western drums and another broad instrument sounding like a rush of water dripping on a drum. The tune has similarities to a very famous song which i cant identify...in fact very close...if not for the orchestration i guess you can say it sounds exactly the same...anybody has any idea of that song? Great pick Swathy..:clap:

tvsankar
27th May 2006, 10:59 AM
Dear Swaty,
Very Nice pick!!!!

IR in guitar, flute , violin enralae enaku migavum pidikum. Indha padal ennudaiya most favourite agi vittadhu!! Especially FLUTE bit !!!!!!

Uma RAmanan in voice ------- Romba Romba Sweet indha padalil !!!!!

Beautiful song !!! Thanks for the link !!

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

RR
29th May 2006, 11:02 AM
Rare IR song in today's POW: paruva kaalangalin (moodupani) (http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=582469#582469)

swathy
31st May 2006, 07:14 PM
Thanks Hulks,Usha akka. :-)

Next song will be posted very soon.

baroque
2nd June 2006, 08:39 AM
[tscii:e5eef50feb]Couldn't resist....
Shri.Ilayaraja’s bhakthi bhava with simple orchestral artistry!!

On His birthday, this auspicious day for the world of Music... I want to bring
the virutham ‘Vetrigalin....’ set in Raga Ganamoorthe from Geethanjali to your attention!! There is a Thyagaraja krithi ‘Ganamoorthey....’ starts with the raga name!! Amazing aa yerukkum!!

I was listening to the song Maranthen..... set in ahir bhairavi. - Ilayarajavin’ Geeethanjali brought back so much school days memory!! Remember Ek duje ke liye... there is a song ‘sola bharas....’ What a tune, what a mood!! Enjoy, enjoy raaja pattu...!! Vinatha!

http://www.raaga.com/channels/tamil/movie/TD00019.html


Check it out if you want Ek duje ke liye too!! :D


Amma Janani.... is Lalitha! Remember idhazhil kadhai.....Same raga!![/tscii:e5eef50feb]

app_engine
2nd June 2006, 07:45 PM
"Ek duje ke liye" (the KB version) is by Lakshmikanth-Pyarelal...are you referring to something else?

baroque
2nd June 2006, 11:44 PM
App_ engine... I know the MD is different,namba Raaja devotional Marandhen.... tune kku I mentioned as a additional reference!! what a tilting tune!! Hope you enjoyed Ilayaraja vin GEETHANJALI!!

swathy
5th June 2006, 02:21 PM
Date: June 5
Song: Oru Raagam Paadalodu
Singers: Janaki. S.,Yesudas.K.J
Movie: Aananda Raagam
Year of release: 1982

Link: http://rajaecho.tripod.com/id16.html

Sanjeevi
5th June 2006, 02:24 PM
:D Super song swathy. The movie has many super songs including Megam karukkuthu, kadaloram.

swathy
5th June 2006, 02:27 PM
Thanks Sanjeevi :-)

Hulkster
6th June 2006, 07:32 PM
Thanks swathy for picking another gem..:thumbsup:..been wondering how come there were no songs for a few days...:D

Prelude - a mixture of hindustani and carnatic style of beating the tabla and mridhangam at the start is a catchy surprise with the chorus providing the emotional effects of the prelude in place of the flutes or violins. Very nice instrumentation of the tabla which continues through the whole song without missing a single beat.

Interlude - The first interlude just ascends without stopping with the violins reaching a maximum before the flute gives us a pleasant village overtone with the folkish sounding tabla accompanying the flute before being succeeded by the usual IR pattern of violin movements expressing the search for romance. The second interlude starts off with the veenai starting off abit and then just going straight down like someone is just breezing through all the notes in a piano with the guitar mildy sounding in the gaps before the violins and flute give their versions of the tune before being ended by the chorus in typical IR fashion. Nice orchestration in the first interlude of the flute by IR..:clap:

Tune - A romantic melody with a carnatic overtone using hindustani styled instrumentation in places. If you take out the instrumentation you get the usual IR catchy romantic melody and if you add it in you get a carnatic song...interesting fusion by IR in this sense. The singing as usual is expressive and sweet on the ears without affecting the lyrics by Yesudoss and Janaki. The unique thing about this song is the instrumentation of the tabla and mridhangam...pleasant and catchy to listen. This time IR lets the singing and lyrics do the job with music being at a minimal...beautiful song though.

Waiting for ur next song swathy...:D

swathy
7th June 2006, 09:43 AM
Thanks hulks :-)

thumburu
7th June 2006, 08:31 PM
"Oru ragam paadalodu" is such a sweet, melancholic tune MohanaKalyani , perhaps . The prelude humming sounds distant and heartrending . Do we have such long lasting melodies in tfm anymore? Raja's flute , veenai combination in the interludes is a beauty . The second bgm has a shruthi or raga bedham if u notice the strings section and it adds to the poignancy. Raja is definitely the King of emotions

swathy
7th June 2006, 08:38 PM
Thanks thumburu :-)

sick31
8th June 2006, 07:00 AM
Oru raagam padalodu.

Very, very, nice.

I've always thought that Janaki / KJY duets were very special, because for some reason, Janaki always sounds like she's very shy when she's singing with him. In her duets with SPB, she flirts like mad, but with KJY, it's on another level altogether. lol.

-Vijay

swathy
8th June 2006, 09:37 AM
thanks vijay :-)

swathy
13th June 2006, 09:24 AM
Date: June 13
Song: Nil Nil Nil Badhil Sol Sol Sol
Singers: Ilaiyaraaja,Uma Ramanan
Movie: Paattu Paadava
Year of release: 1995

Link: http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=236845

Renault
13th June 2006, 07:59 PM
Uma Ramanan is one singer who has sung gems under Maestro's composition. Paattu Paadava is a classic album with all songs being of a different variety, be it today's pick or Poonkatrile or Chorus Paadura, or Vazhi Vidu.

I seem to observe the Counterpoint aspect in this song as well, especially in the charanams and the way they gel into the pallavi..even the lyrics seem to be so. May be I need baroque and hulks points here.

On example in terms of lyrics is below:

"Nillamal badhil sollamal ingey,

Sendraalum Vida mattene anbe"..


The singers made high pitch singing so easy in this song.

This song and the film has some unique points... the lady director didn't make films further I guess, the actress (Lavanya) didn't act further, Uma Ramanan didn't sing much, Rahman went into Oblivion and so on..

but the album was certainly Raja's best in 1995 and may be Chandralekha will come a close second.

baroque
14th June 2006, 01:41 AM
Never heard of this song, Swathi!
Nice pick! Song leaves the residue of 'vandhanam....' Vaazhvey Maayam - Gem of a Vasantha!

swathy
14th June 2006, 02:43 PM
Thanks renault and baroque :-)

thumburu
14th June 2006, 06:49 PM
Great selection Swathi!!! "Paattu paadavaa" is a fantastic album with every song being very fresh, unique and also melodious to the ears. "Nil nil nil" is particularly an intricate composition and have you listened to the prelude? It is something which Raja alone is capable of doing.
The scale is "Vasantha" , similar to "andhi mazhai"

Hulkster
14th June 2006, 06:49 PM
Another nice pick by swathy...very nice to hear another catchy melody by IR..:clap:

Prelude - The guitar starts off the song on a melodious note before the electric veenai takes over playing the pallavi in a more meticulous format with the keyboard accompanying it here and there before being ended by the keyboard in a catchy percussion fashion. There is a hint of counterpoint being used here. The first piece played by the electric veenai is going high tempo while the second one is a slight milder deviation of the first piece with extra added ntoes depicting delight. I think this is a counterpoint as both these notes meet each other without affecting the flow and both go smoothly into each other.

Interludes - the keyboard plays in a racey single beat fashion before the electric veenai takes over again with a more emotive and slightly monotonous piece which contradicts the racey sounding keyboard. The violins then take over sounding soulful as playing sweetly into your hearts. I have to say that the first interlude is a contradiction to the actually happy tune of the song orchestrated brilliantly by IR. The second interlude starts off with the keyboard with a more racey single beat sounding like a horse galloping with the electric veenai sounding more delightful than the first interlude. There is another counterpoint here as the veenai sounds like it is asking questions while the violin just goes the other way round expressing emotions in a sad manner while the keyboard just plays like its racing with it sounding very mild before the violin ends the second interlude. The three pieces are totally different with each sounding differently but yet they compliment each other with not even one note sounding out of place. This is where IR is a master in implementing coutnerpoints in his songs.

Tune - The tune is the usual catchy IR melody with the pallavi and charanam impressing the listener immediately upon first hearing. The instrumentation of the song is even more catchier. The western percussion plays the first beat and the keyboard playing the second beat in a high octave before the first interlude. after the first interlude the pattern continues but with the keyboard playing the second beat in a slightly lower octave before the pattern resumes again with the high octave towards the end. The flute also comes in to compliment the more higher tempo singing of the lead pair soothingly in usual IR style.

Renault sir as for the lyrics i think because of the first part of the singing going high and the last word going very low it sounds like a counterpoint. It cant be really said to be a counterpoint as they are not two separate sounds or melodies but rather a high and low deviation of the stanza...counterpoint is when a melody or sound being played meets another totally different or contradicting melody or sound without the sounds affecting each other or as they say joining in a harmony. Maybe i might be wrong abt the lyrics part and experts can comment on this but from what i can listen it only seems to me as the stanza going from high to low without any difference in the melody. Swathy thanks for this song yet again..:clap:

crvenky
15th June 2006, 09:45 AM
Hulkster, is there scale changes in the charanams? Please clarify.

Hulkster
15th June 2006, 09:50 AM
Hulkster, is there scale changes in the charanams? Please clarify.

Yes but im not able to identify what they exactly are...the charanam is maintained at a high pitch when it is nil nil badhil sol sol and then descends slowly and smoothly in the last part. Perhaps experts can tell us what are the scales...:)

swathy
15th June 2006, 09:55 AM
Thanks thumburu, hulks and venky

rajeshkrv
16th June 2006, 02:17 AM
nil nil a beautiful song with superb lyrics by vaali

swathy
16th June 2006, 03:57 PM
Date: June 16
Song: Katti Vacchukko
Singers: Janaki. S.,Malaysia Vasudevan
Movie: En Jeevan Paaduthu
Year of release: 1988

Link:: http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=165068

app_engine
16th June 2006, 09:17 PM
Oh, what a sweet song...`indha nErammmmmmmm, ponnAna nEram.....vandha kAlammmmmm, kalyana kAlam ohohohoho!'...MV is simply great in this song and so is SJ...With a slow tempo and a sweet rhythm, an ideal song to listen in the night in bed...(This song used to be a regular on my walkman during bachelor days in late 80's...songs like this kEttukkoNdE thoongi viduven...autostop vAzhga...)

Thanks Swathy for a sweet reminder on a Friday...

swathy
17th June 2006, 10:00 AM
Thanks app_engine :-)

isaiyil_ivan
18th June 2006, 01:16 AM
Fine song! Uma Ramanan's class shows in every song of hers, and this is a prime example!

Hulkster
18th June 2006, 11:17 AM
Very nice song Swathy..another different song that you have given us..:clap:

Prelude - The tabla sounds very catchy when the western drum gives a single beat after each tabla note and not to mention the comical and melodious fusion in the notes of the violin. The flute ends the prelude on a very soothing manner. Nice instrumentation by IR for the tabla and the orchestration of the violin.

Interlude - The flute just goes sweet like honey on your ears....it just plays like it is going to make you sleep and at the same time makes you enjoy its rhythm in the first interlude. The second interlude is longer with the violin taking over with a emotive rendition. In usual IR style it goes high tempo and then dissipates into a romantic like delight before the flute ends the interlude on a soft and contradicting manner. The second interlude starts off with a very mild and catchy version of the flute sounding like a butterfly fluttering...that adds to the melody effect. Nice orchestration by IR here..:clap:

Tune The catchy tabla and western drum combo plays through out the song with the sitara/guitar? coming in the end of the first part and second part of the charanams and pallavi to make it even more catchier. The tune is very soothing as expressed by engine sir...and the singing expresses the emotions of the lead pair like they are really into a romantic dillusion. Just watch Janaki's mild laugh and singing at the end and Vasudevan floats over like a evening breeze. At one part the tune is interrupted like its being done in a situation with the dialogues of janaki. The surprising part about this is that the rendition of those dialogues do not break the flow of the tune. Full marks to Janaki for that. :clap:

Thanks for the song Swathy...did not know this movie had another good song after your soulful pick of engirundho azhaikkum..:D

tvsankar
18th June 2006, 05:55 PM
Dear Swathy,
Beautiful picks !!!

Nil Nil Nil badhil sol sol - Uma Ramanan paduvadhal konjam adhigamaga pidikum !!

katti vechuko --- As usual, IR's flute is very nice in this song !!! MVD and SJ padum style is very sweet !!! Thanks for the links !!!

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

swathy
18th June 2006, 07:39 PM
Thanks hulks, usha akka, hulks :-)

swathy
18th June 2006, 07:44 PM
Songs discussed so far

1.Movie : Aavarampoo
Song : Samikitta solli vachu serndhadhindha chella kiliye

2.Song: Kannama Kadhal ennum kavidhai solladi
Movie: Vanna Vanna Pookkal

3.Film : Jonny
Song : Oru iniya manadhu isaiyai azahithu sellum!!

4.Film:Kalaingan
Song: Enthan Nenjil neengatha thendral nee thana

5.Song: Chittanchittan kuruvi unakku thane
Movie: Pudhu nellu Pudhu nathu

6.Song: Oh Vasantha raja
Movie: Neengal Kettavai

7.Song: Oliyile therivadhu devadaiya
Movie: Azhagi

8.Song: kombula poova suthi
Movie: Virumaandi

9.Song: En Pattu En Pattu nenjil nikkum poongathu
Movie: Poomani

10.Song: Veenaiku
Film: Maanickam

11.song: anjali anjali
film: anjali

12.Song: En Veetu jannal yetti yen pakkure
Movie: Raman Abdulla

13.Song: Enge sellum indha paadhai yaaro yaaro arivaaro
Movie: Sethu

14.Song: Rojavai thalattum thendral
Movie: Ninaivellam Nithya

15.Song: Idhayam oru koil
Movie: Idhaya koil

16.Song: Siru ponmani asaiyum
Movie: Kalukkul eeram

17.Song: Nadha vinodhangal
Movie: Salangai Oli

18.Song: En Kanmani En Kaadhalee
Movie: Chittu Kuruvi

19.Song: Kinnaththil Then Eduththu
Movie: Ilamai Oonjal Aadukirathu

20.Song: Andhi Mazhai Pozhigiradhu
Movie: Raaja Paarvai

21.Song: Sangathil Paadatha Kavithai
Movie: Auto Raja

22.Movie: Illamai Oonjaladugirathu
Song : Ennadi Meenakshi

23.Song: Kannan Oru Kai Kuzhandhai
Movie: Badra Kali

24.Song: Anandha Thenkatru
Movie: Manipur Mamiyar

25.Song Name: Sangeetha Jathi Mullai
Movie : Kadhal Oviyam

26.song: Edho Moham Edho Daaham
Movie: Kozhi Koovuthu

27.Song: Aasaya Kaathila Thoodhuvittu
Movie: Jhonny

28.Song: Kaun Dagar
Movie: Lajja(Hindi)

29.Song: Velli Salangaigal
Movie: Kadhal Oviyam

30.Song: Paada Vanthatho Raagam
Movie: Ilamai Kaalangal

31.Song: Poonkadhave Thaall Thiravaai
Movie: Nizhalgal

32.song: muthamizhe
film :raman Abdullah

33.Song: Kannil Enna
Movie: Un Kannil Neer Vazhinthaal

34.Song : Sithadai Thene Sevanthi Poo Rani
Film : Chinna Kannamma

35.Song: Pooviley Medai Naan Podavaa
Movie: Pagal Nilavu

36.Song: Velakku Vaccha Nerathile
Movie: Mundaanai Mudichu

37.Song: Vaana Mazhai Pola
Movie: Idu Namma Bhoomi

38.Song:Athikaalai Neyramey
Movie: Meendum Oru Kaadhal Kadhai

39.Song: Netru vandha kaatru
Movie: Kanmani

40.Song: Eriyile Elandha Maram
Movie: Karaiyellam Sembagapoo

41.Song: Poovaadai Kaatru Vandhu Kanam
Movie: Gopurangal Saayvathillai

42.Song: Engirundo Azhaikkum En Jeevan
Movie: En Jeevan Paaduthe

43.Song: Uyire Uyire Urugaathey
Movie: Oruvar Vaazhum Aalayam

44.Song: Then Paandi Thamizhey En Singaara Kuyiley
Movie: Paasa Paravaigal

45.Song: Oh unnale naan penn aanane
Movie: En Arukil Nee Irundhaal

46.song:paruva kaalangalin
movie: moodupani

47.Song: Oru Raagam Paadalodu
Movie: Aananda Raagam

48.Song: Nil Nil Nil Badhil Sol Sol Sol
Movie: Paattu Paadava

49.Song: Katti Vacchukko
Movie: En Jeevan Paaduthu

swathy
18th June 2006, 07:48 PM
50th Song of this thread :thumbsup: :clap:


Nandri Nandi Nandri Nandri Nadri Nandri

Thanks for your active participation and support.

Thanks for not spamming.

I request everyone to pour your comments / suggestions to make this thread still more interesting.


Song # 50
Date: June 18
Song: Poo Kumkumapoo
Singers: KJ. Yesudas /Chithra
Language: Chithra
Movie: Rasathanthram
Year of release: 2006

Link:http://raaga.com/channels/malayalam/movie/M0000961.html


Dedicating the song to all the fathers on Father's Day :D

great
18th June 2006, 08:22 PM
:clap: three cheers to Swathy for the nice songs she has chosen.

Next pick i would like to have on

Thai pongalum vanthathu paalu ponguthu paathu soladiyo song :D :D :D

Renault
18th June 2006, 08:26 PM
Interesting pick for the 50th song Swathy.

I normally don't listen to Malayalam songs.. but as destiny proved me wrong.. I litsened to the entire album and was mesmerised.

Raja went back to his native best and gave fresh songs. I would have loived these kind of songs in Tamil as well.

Today's pick comes in two versions (Yesudos and Chrita).. Chitra's part taking the edge though Yesudas voice was sweet as always.

Very Very nativitiy oriented song.. !!

Congrats for all hubbers for making this thread last for 50 songs....

Swathy, did u miss Poonthalir Aaada.. the song I added in your absence once? Never mind.

swathy
19th June 2006, 09:26 AM
renault :I am sorry .let me chk again.

Thks great and renault :-)

isaiyil_ivan
21st June 2006, 11:52 PM
Thanks for your service to Raaja fans

Hulkster
22nd June 2006, 06:24 AM
Sorry...missed out on our song number 50..a different pick this time eh swathy?..:D

Poo Kungama Poo although is a mallu song retains the village folk melody of the bygone IR era. The sweet flute notes in the interludes and the song letting the singers sing the tune is just reminiscent of the bharathiraja movies where such songs play. The tune is quite tamilianised especially when you hear chitra sing the lyrics. But still its been long sicne we heard Raja tune a village folk melody and this is one of them. Kudos to IR and Swathy :clap:

swathy
22nd June 2006, 09:19 AM
Thanks isai and hulks :-)

RR
26th June 2006, 10:54 AM
kai veenai yendhum (Vietnam colony) (http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=628773#628773) on today's POW.

Renault
14th July 2006, 07:29 PM
Song # 51
Date: July 14
Song: Endrendrum Anandhame
Singers: Malaysia Vasudevan
Movie: Kadal Meengal


Thanks Swathy for permitting me to post today's pick. Maestro fans.. its time to have some breeze after the lull in this thread.

Today's pick is an awesome masterpiece and an excellent showcase of Counterpoint. Please do listen to the song prelude and you will understand what am talking about. It starts with a western instrument, not sure which one and then a beautiful violin starts to play as a counter melody to the first instrument.

The way the two instruments finish thi song prelude and lead into the male playback to start is wonderful. There will be a half a second pause after the instruments finish and Malaysia picks up... similar to the very brief time gap of silence before the crowd starts to applaud for a musician's orchestration performance.

I listened to this song last week and I was playing this prelude for umpteen times. Am sure we will have more discussions on this with Hulks and baroque the counterpoint specialist elaborating.

Other highlights of this song according to my observations:

1. Rare Malaysia Vasudevan - Kamal combo
2. Got subdued due to the masterpiece Thalattuthey Vaanam

Let's have our healthy discussions back here.

Renault
14th July 2006, 07:34 PM
This link might help those who are want to listen to the song online:

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/l/26/s/movie_name.4645/

RR
14th July 2006, 08:59 PM
This song exemplifies counterpoint. Great pick, Renault!

app_engine
14th July 2006, 09:15 PM
"Rare Malaysia Vasudevan - Kamal combo"...Nop..this song had Suman dancing with Ambi chEchi...(adhu dhAnga, Shivaji pada villain)...

ab_123
15th July 2006, 03:39 AM
Impressive violin work in the middle of the song!

vijayr
15th July 2006, 10:50 AM
Terrific song- disco number, laced with WCM-like counterpoints throughout but yet based on a Sarasaangi scale which lends a slight pathos touch. Rarely do you get such a heady cocktail of genres in a single song.

swathy
17th July 2006, 02:06 PM
nice song renault :-)

thumburu
17th July 2006, 04:19 PM
How we miss this innovative IR!!!

Hulkster
18th July 2006, 06:40 AM
Kadal Meengal songs were very soulful and innovative indeed. Great song to pick Renault sir. Since all have echoed my thoughts all i can do is clap in admiration..:clap: :clap:

rajeshkrv
20th July 2006, 05:04 AM
another haunting solo by PS in kadal meengal "MAane oru mangala sippi un thaaye" is another IR Gem

kiru
21st July 2006, 05:47 AM
I think the instrument is 'electric bass guitar'. This is basically a 'carnatic fusion' format (solo violin + bass rhythm) (especially in the interludes) that shows up well-developed in later years in Mohan songs of IR.
Most interesting as vijayr points out is the dancy twist (disco).

kj
21st July 2006, 06:13 PM
it is indeed electric bass guitar used with a phaser according to bass expert vicky

Renault
4th August 2006, 07:18 AM
Giving this thread new life is today's pick..This is an offbeat jolly song..

Song: Vachikkava unna mattum
Singers: K.J.Yesudas,S.Janaki
Movie: Nallavanukku Nallavan
Director: SPM (I guess)
Banner: AVM
Year of release: 1984.

I am summarizing this song as below:
1. Maestro probably found KJY's ability to sing jolly kuthu songs as well.. today's pick will stand testimony alongside Aaagayam mele (Naan Vaazhaveppen) and Thanner Thotti (Sindu bhairavi).

2. Even for a kuthu song, maestro has given lot of effort to mix umpteen instrumental effects and make this song listenable many times.. this is evident from the first and second charanam interludes

3. Raja was in fine form in partnership with AVM, Rajini and SPM those days and hence even a jolly song sounds very much a chart topper.

4. Yet another song that took the sidlines due to intense competition from other songs in the same film (Unnai thaaney, Muthaduthey, Chittukku).

5. I saw this song on TV few months back and I found myself singing this song the whole day.. that's always been the effect of select Raja's songs on me. It makes my mind fresh all day.

RR
4th August 2006, 09:22 AM
The song starts like "sankar-ganesh" types. I think Raja shows himself after interludes - not in top class though.

Song link: http://www.raaga.com/channels/tamil/movie/T0000112.html (3rd song)

tvsankar
5th August 2006, 02:53 PM
[quote="RR"]The song starts like "sankar-ganesh" types. I think Raja
shows himself after interludes - not in top class though.


Dear RR,
Ippadi solli vitteergalae !! Idhu dhan Sankar Ganesh Special !! Pavam IR !!!!

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

app_engine
8th August 2006, 08:17 PM
I think the best `dappAnguththu' by KJY is `vachchappArva theerAdhadi, machchAn kuRi mARAdhadi' from iLamaikkOlam...The instrumentals in that song are awesome...

`vachchukkavA onna mattum' is an average masAlA song...

rayan36
9th August 2006, 12:31 PM
It's dapangkuthu adi in the middle that gives Raja away n a typical RK song though this song only comes after pothuvaga en manasu thangam

thumburu
9th August 2006, 02:21 PM
IR-KJY combined again for a very nice peppy cum dappankuthu number "kanne balam thannaal vandhadhu" from BR's flop movie "Vaalibame vaa vaa". This is one of my fav songs and dont miss the freaky trumpet sounds in the interludes.

vasanth2006
9th August 2006, 02:36 PM
"Vacha parvai theeradhadi" is superb song even though it is a kuttu song. this number has very catchy and nice tune.

while KJY sings "deviye vanthanam, poosava santhanam", the tune is superb. Totally the tune is mesmerizing. only ilaiyaraja can give this level of mind blowing tune in kuttu songs.

Nakeeran
9th August 2006, 02:39 PM
Under which category - THANNI THOTTI THEDI VANDHA KANNUKUTTI NAAN will appear ?

Is it also tapaanguthu of KJY ?

Nakeeran
9th August 2006, 02:51 PM
"Vacha parvai theeradhadi" is superb song even though it is a kuttu song. this number has very catchy and nice tune.

while KJY sings "deviye vanthanam, poosava santhanam", the tune is superb. Totally the tune is mesmerizing. only ilaiyaraja can give this level of mind blowing tune in kuttu songs.

Dont expose ur ignorance in abundance here :twisted:

Havent you heard- Ennadi rakamma- of MSV ?
Plenty infact .

Another song is THERU PAAKA VANDHIRUKKUM CHITIRA PENNE , a Shivaji starrer :twisted:

rayan36
9th August 2006, 02:58 PM
Who wrote the lyrics.......is it Gangai Amaran?????

vasanth2006
9th August 2006, 03:42 PM
"Vacha parvai theeradhadi" is superb song even though it is a kuttu song. this number has very catchy and nice tune.

while KJY sings "deviye vanthanam, poosava santhanam", the tune is superb. Totally the tune is mesmerizing. only ilaiyaraja can give this level of mind blowing tune in kuttu songs.

Dont expose ur ignorance in abundance here :twisted:

Havent you heard- Ennadi rakamma- of MSV ?
Plenty infact .

Another song is THERU PAAKA VANDHIRUKKUM CHITIRA PENNE , a Shivaji starrer :twisted:

that is my opinion only. opinions will differ. understood. :evil:

Nakkerare, whenever we are praising the talent of maestro, u came to the picture and dragging MSV.
i didnt hear MSV much. so i cant comment about his songs.

First of all i m not in ilaiyaraja generation, i m rahman generation. but after hearing maestros songs, i addicted. i collected almost all raja songs. that is the power of his music. MSV songs didnt appeal me. Taste will differ. first understood that fact.

IMHO, raja songs has the appeal to reach the future generation also. ( i seen some school students singing "mantram vantha tenralukku". i stunned.). IR have more long life songs.

so respect others opinions. dont influence ur thoughts.

if i hurt u, then sorry for that. :wave:

Nakeeran
9th August 2006, 04:47 PM
"Vacha parvai theeradhadi" is superb song even though it is a kuttu song. this number has very catchy and nice tune.

while KJY sings "deviye vanthanam, poosava santhanam", the tune is superb. Totally the tune is mesmerizing. only ilaiyaraja can give this level of mind blowing tune in kuttu songs.

Dont expose ur ignorance in abundance here :twisted:

Havent you heard- Ennadi rakamma- of MSV ?
Plenty infact .

Another song is THERU PAAKA VANDHIRUKKUM CHITIRA PENNE , a Shivaji starrer :twisted:

that is my opinion only. opinions will differ. understood. :evil:

Nakkerare, whenever we are praising the talent of maestro, u came to the picture and dragging MSV.
i didnt hear MSV much. so i cant comment about his songs.

First of all i m not in ilaiyaraja generation, i m rahman generation. but after hearing maestros songs, i addicted. i collected almost all raja songs. that is the power of his music. MSV songs didnt appeal me. Taste will differ. first understood that fact.

IMHO, raja songs has the appeal to reach the future generation also. ( i seen some school students singing "mantram vantha tenralukku". i stunned.). IR have more long life songs.

so respect others opinions. dont influence ur thoughts.

if i hurt u, then sorry for that. :wave:

Its ur comment -only ilaiyaraja can give this level of mind blowing tune in kuttu songs

irks me dear :twisted: Your version looks so emphatic ! :idea:

Thats why I asked u to listen to old songs & then PASS A JUDGEMENT :D

Look, on IR's tapaanguthu songs, I can give a list as I know IR better . IR-SPB had given some scintillating tunes but still I respect other composers especially MSV .

How can u pass a unilateral judgement without hearing other music :lol:

Besides, I cant force u to admire MSV . Need not. U not being his fan will not hurt him anyway .Already he has millions of fans around still listening to some composition which are 40 years old
IR & ARR themselves wonder at MSV FYI :D

Bye

Nakeeran
9th August 2006, 04:49 PM
"Vacha parvai theeradhadi" is superb song even though it is a kuttu song. this number has very catchy and nice tune.

while KJY sings "deviye vanthanam, poosava santhanam", the tune is superb. Totally the tune is mesmerizing. only ilaiyaraja can give this level of mind blowing tune in kuttu songs.

Dont expose ur ignorance in abundance here :twisted:

Havent you heard- Ennadi rakamma- of MSV ?
Plenty infact .

Another song is THERU PAAKA VANDHIRUKKUM CHITIRA PENNE , a Shivaji starrer :twisted:

that is my opinion only. opinions will differ. understood. :evil:

Nakkerare, whenever we are praising the talent of maestro, u came to the picture and dragging MSV.
i didnt hear MSV much. so i cant comment about his songs.

First of all i m not in ilaiyaraja generation, i m rahman generation. but after hearing maestros songs, i addicted. i collected almost all raja songs. that is the power of his music. MSV songs didnt appeal me. Taste will differ. first understood that fact.

IMHO, raja songs has the appeal to reach the future generation also. ( i seen some school students singing "mantram vantha tenralukku". i stunned.). IR have more long life songs.

so respect others opinions. dont influence ur thoughts.

if i hurt u, then sorry for that. :wave:

Its ur comment -only ilaiyaraja can give this level of mind blowing tune in kuttu songs

irks me dear :twisted: Your version looks so emphatic ! :idea:

Thats why I asked u to listen to old songs & then PASS A JUDGEMENT :D

Look, on IR's tapaanguthu songs, I can give a list as I know IR better . IR-SPB had given some scintillating tunes but still I respect other composers especially MSV .

How can u pass a unilateral judgement without hearing other music :lol:

Besides, I cant force u to admire MSV . Need not. U not being his fan will not hurt him anyway .Already he has millions of fans around still listening to some composition which are 40 years old
IR & ARR themselves wonder at MSV FYI :D

Bye

app_engine
9th August 2006, 09:22 PM
"IR & ARR themselves wonder at MSV FYI ..."

True, but not for `dappAnguththu' songs:-))

muzhuppoosaNikkAya sOththula maRaikkappAkkAdheenga sArE...There are always certain MDs who excel in specific categories while others may have done one or two great numbers in them. Give credit where it's due. IMNSHO Raja reigns supreme in this genre! He started with a bang in `machchAnappAththeengaLA' which eclipsed any prior themmAngu and went on to build 100's of them...polished or raw...smooth or rough...loud or gentle...nAttuppuRam or nagaram...powerful or soft...

I'm yet to see any number competing with `adiyE, manam nillunnA nikkAdhEdi' in raw power...kizhavanaiyum Ada vaikkum...

MSV for dappAnguththu...pAvam sir, sonnA avarE varuththappaduvAru...may be S-G & TR gave some competition to IR in this category. `nadaya mAththu' & `koodaiyila karuvAdu' are worthy examples...

Nakeeran
10th August 2006, 12:17 AM
"IR & ARR themselves wonder at MSV FYI ..."

True, but not for `dappAnguththu' songs:-))

muzhuppoosaNikkAya sOththula maRaikkappAkkAdheenga sArE...There are always certain MDs who excel in specific categories while others may have done one or two great numbers in them. Give credit where it's due. IMNSHO Raja reigns supreme in this genre! He started with a bang in `machchAnappAththeengaLA' which eclipsed any prior themmAngu and went on to build 100's of them...polished or raw...smooth or rough...loud or gentle...nAttuppuRam or nagaram...powerful or soft...

I'm yet to see any number competing with `adiyE, manam nillunnA nikkAdhEdi' in raw power...kizhavanaiyum Ada vaikkum...

MSV for dappAnguththu...pAvam sir, sonnA avarE varuththappaduvAru...may be S-G & TR gave some competition to IR in this category. `nadaya mAththu' & `koodaiyila karuvAdu' are worthy examples...

app- Engine sirrr

I am not here for a fight except that the wordings of Vasanth are too damaging as if there was no predecessor to such type of songs & only IR was the karta of this genre :lol:
Some old songs can make even a dead man dance .

Big list of songs have appeared with folk base too & also dapanguthu earlier but I respect this thread discipline & shun from arguments pls.

Lets admire the beauties of IR here .

I will also join the chorus shortly as me too an ardent IR fan but not a blind worshipper :D

rajeshkrv
10th August 2006, 12:49 AM
chithada kattikittu singaram pannikittu from vannakili is a perfect dance tune (folk number) music by KVM

app_engine
10th August 2006, 01:14 AM
rajeshkrv, fine.

`mAmA, mAmA, mAmA, EmmA, EmmA, EmmA' vaiyum adhu kooda sEththukkunga..

However, are we going to say KVM competes with IR in dappAnguththu or folk based on a few numbers like this here and there?

I'm not supporting fanatism here, but one need not pick on every word & statement made by some emotional fan and start dragging other stalwarts unnecessarily...

The irony is all those who termed IR initially as only a `nAttuppuRaththAn',`verum folk musician', `chummA dappAnguththu' etc. are now not even willing to give him that title...and want to stake a share / claim...funny...

app_engine
10th August 2006, 01:45 AM
"Some old songs can make even a dead man dance"...Nakkeerar style'il iRanginAl,

'how can a dead man get up and dance? it's totally unscientific...engayAvadhu seththavan ezhundhu pAththirukkiyA'nnu avarudaiya post'ai vENdumAnAlum vimarsikkalAm...

uyarvu naviRchi aNi patRi therindhavarkaL amaidhi kAppArkaL...

In any case, I'm going to stop with this post...and let Swathy & co peacefully continue their appreciation of IR songs...

rajeshkrv
10th August 2006, 01:58 AM
app engine.. IR priandhu valarndhadhu ellame gramathila andhanala andha nativitiy perfecta amainjadhu avar padalgalil
adharkaga matravargal adhai seyyavillai endru solla mudiyadhu

mallu vetti madichu kattum machan oru mayila kalai - SG- Sorkam naragam

KVM niraya examples

Kadu velenjenna machan namakku kayyum kaalum thane micham - GR

& many MD's

IR adhai innum sirappa senjar endru sollalame thavira avar than pillayar suzhi pottar enru sonnal adhu unmai aagadhu

app_engine
10th August 2006, 02:06 AM
One more digression:
rajeshkrv, vasanth didn't say IR "started" it.
Neither me.
Like you said, he just told IR did it better than others...or something to mean IR is the best in this genre...and I strongly agree.
End-digression

Nakeeran
10th August 2006, 04:52 PM
One more digression:
rajeshkrv, vasanth didn't say IR "started" it.
Neither me.
Like you said, he just told IR did it better than others...or something to mean IR is the best in this genre...and I strongly agree.
End-digression

app-engine sir

Like Rajesh KRV, I too have a big list of old songs but that will prolong this needless argument here. If someone says IR is the best for Nattupura padalgal, I will vouch for it but if someone says that IR WAS THE FIRST GUY TO DISCOVER THIS , I STRONGLY CONDEMN . This humiliates all greats of yesteryears & am not mean for it

Lets put an end to this digression & counter digression

Ok. I wish to post one favourite Raja SCINTILLATING COMPOSITION of the 80s :

Song of the day :


http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=258590


Song : Ilampani thulir vizum neram
Singer : Shailaja
Movie : Aradhanai
Year : 1981
Stars : Suman & Sumalatha

IMO, this song should be ranked as one of the very best of Raja

The way the preludes, interludes have been arranged ! its a musical wonder to ears !

Often gives me an early morning breezy feeling whenever I hear this scintillating number

Its a dream composition & must have been a revelation to the listeners then :D
I heard it as I grew along with Raja music & amazed by the package offered by IR !

Comments pls

From now, let me contribute to IR magic of the 80s & unearth all the lost treasures :twisted:

irir123
12th August 2006, 10:13 AM
guys - my song of the day "En purushanthann"

oh GOD! what outstanding guitar interludes!!!

Nakeeran
14th August 2006, 03:36 PM
Song : En uyire vaa en uyire
Movie : Poonthota kavalkaran
Singers : SPB- Chitra

http://www.coolgoose.com/music/song.php?id=189230

This movie has some splendid songs :

1. Sinthiya venmani sippiyil muthachu
2. Paramal partha nenjam

but somehow, I am wonderstruck by the mezmerizing chorus preludes & the mindblowing interludes !

Its vintage IR stuff of the 80s !

SPB was at his awesome best this phase & Chitra equal to the task !

swathy
16th August 2006, 03:46 PM
nice pick.

Thanks nakeeran :-)

Nakeeran
16th August 2006, 04:27 PM
Mikka nandri Swathy :D

Enge poiteenga ithanai nalaga , indha threadai vittu vittu ? Neengal dhaan karta ayitre !

Pl continue with ur good work on Raja .

Ok. I wish to cover another gem of a composition from IR .

Movie : Kai rasi karan
Singers : SPB- SJ
Stars : Prabhu - Radha
Song : Kai veesum thamarai

Padu dubba movie but the songs are wonderful. Amazing tunes by IR . Its magic of IR in 80s !

http://as01.coolgoose.com/music/song.php?id=123054&PHPSESSID=e688a3574b214410de9936ac20291f6d


Comments pls on composition


From now, Swathy , can you take over pls ?

Nakeeran
17th August 2006, 07:11 PM
Movie : Anandha Kummi
Song : Oru kili urugudhu
Singers : S.Janaki & S.P.Shailaja
Year : 1984

This song was sung by SPB also


http://ww.smashits.com/associates/bollywoodworld/index.cfm?Page=Audio&SubPage=ShowTracks&Letter=A&AlbumID=2632

I enjoy hearing it again & again for the kukoo kukoo - vocal & flute interludes !

Another splendid album from Rasaiah ! :D

Can he reproduce this magic again :cry:

Nakeeran
18th August 2006, 07:53 PM
[tscii:be09c91169]Today’s song :

Movie : Thandhu viten ennai
Artists : Vikram & Rohini
Singers : Spb – S. Janaki
Song : Thendral nee thendral nee seidhi sonna mangai nee

Direction : Sridhar

Vikram made his debut .

Straight went to the shelf but Maestro magic was there in this song .


Listen to the preludes& interludes – IR at his best !

SPB’s is superb when he says – aha aha aha ahaa

Another super song of Raja , forgotten

Given below is the link :

http://www.raaga.com/channels/tamil/movie/T0000774.html


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Nakeeran
19th August 2006, 02:40 PM
[tscii:4a89627646]19th August 2006

Movie : Thani katu raja
Star : Super * & Radha
Song : SANDANA KATRE SENDHAMIZ UTRE
Singers : SPB & S.Janaki


The preludes & interludes consisting drums, flutes , violin , spell binding composition.

Another Raja classic of the 80s

SPB’s voice modulation was nice & fits well for Rajini !

Here is the link below :

http://oosai.com/singer_list.cfm?nxt=161&sngrnm=Janaki

Ensoooooiiii :D

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Renault
19th August 2006, 10:00 PM
Nakkeeran sir, too many songs .. but I will chose to comment on the latest.

Sandhana kaatre has the best combination of amazingly long prelude(may be 19 secs) and great counterpoint between Flute and Violin.

In my opinion this song is too much for a masala Rajinikanth movie. Rajini should be forever indebted to Raja for catapulting his films of those days into a different league just for songs.

One interesting aspect in this song is in the begining of the interlude before the second charanam...

Janaki will end as santhosha paatte va va and from then on the interlude tune will pick the same tune-tempo where Janaki leaves with the Va Va tune tempo... amazing creativity shown by Raja there. From then on counterpoint plays a mighty game in the interludes and that's a different story altogether.

I am planning to have portions of this song's prelude as a ringtone.

tvsankar
20th August 2006, 12:39 AM
[tscii:d20bcff415]Dear Nakeeran,
THanks for the nice pics of SPB in IR's Music.Especially the song "Thendral nee thendral nee"

Nicely quoted SPB's Humming !!!!

SPB’s is superb when he says – aha aha aha ahaa

The song "Sandhana katrae" also has a sweet humming by SPB and SJ !!! it's a sugar syrup !!!!!

Thanks for the nice picks !!

With Love,
Usha Sankar.
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Nakeeran
21st August 2006, 01:34 PM
Thanks Renault & Usha Shankar :D

Renault , u , having mentioned on the :


One interesting aspect in this song is in the begining of the interlude before the second charanam...

Janaki will end as santhosha paatte va va and from then on the interlude tune will pick the same tune-tempo where Janaki leaves with the Va Va tune tempo... amazing creativity shown by Raja there. From then on counterpoint plays a mighty game in the interludes and that's a different story altogether.

Unmai. This song was too too good for a Rajini masala movie . Another song wasted :cry:

True ! continuing the end tune as an interlude was something new which was unheard of earlier ! Raja had all the freedom to experiment , I believe :D

As u mentioned the continuity, I was amazed by another Raja beauty & this time its from NOORAVADHU NAL - Mani vannan movie in which Mohan & Nalini celebrate their honeymoon

Listen to the second interlude after Janaki ( this time also S.Janaki ! ) completes ponnum minnum, violin takes over & Raja unleashes all his tricks :D

So, this song VIZIYILE MANI VIZIYIN MOUNA MOZI is my song of the day :

http://as01.coolgoose.com/music/song.php?id=188638&PHPSESSID=832af49a6b99da5361cd3c8537f7690c

Singers : SPB & S.Janaki
Stars : Mohan & Nalini ?
Direction : Manivannan !

For a change, Raja starts the song without any prelude music !

Wonder, how many such songs he did without preludes ?

Another feature - While Janaki sings her part during charanam, SPB will give a laugh & when SPB does his part, Janaki does the same ! all innovation of sorts :)

arunprasad
21st August 2006, 11:51 PM
Can I request veteran hubbers to post the link to the following song.

athamaga thangathukku enna mayakkam -
this was from the film thangamadi thangam.
ambika in a dual role with s.v.sekhar and direction by rama narayanan.
singers - p.suseela, malaysia vasudevan.
The film was released in the 80s and regularly found a place in ilangai vaanoli. It is a soothing themmangu.
The interlude is particularly melodious.
The film was the regular double act movie - refer vaani raani, enga veetu pillai. one of the twins is naive while the other is street smart. There was this scene about whipping the baddie ( i suppose this was pushpalatha).
This was one of the movies in which ambika played a double role. ( pei veedu and dhandanai are the others).
I would be thankful if anyone can send me this song or post the link.
THanks.

RR
22nd August 2006, 10:37 AM
arunprasad,

This is not a song request thread. You can try requesting pow_request@yahoo.com. If available, it will be posted in 'Pick of the Week' thread.

Nakeeran
23rd August 2006, 02:30 PM
23/8/06

Song : NILAVU THOONGUM NERAM
Movie : kunguma chimiz
Singer : S.P.B
Stars : Mohan & Ilavarasi

http://as01.coolgoose.com/music/song.php?id=120585&PHPSESSID=e688a3574b214410de9936ac20291f6d

Listening to this song will make u sleep !
A slow paced composition
Extensive use of mouth organ
Flute during the interludes are typical of IR :D

The song gets repeated through S.Janaki also !

Beautiful lyrics ! Who had penned it ?

Nakeeran
24th August 2006, 06:05 PM
[tscii:3346056b7d]24/8/06

Today’s pick is from KIZAKKU VASAL

Though the entire movie forms part of IR’s eternal classics, my pick however is :

VANDHDHE AHA KUNGUMAM

Singer : Chitra
Star : Revathy

The chorus preludes & the violin & the final clapping – terrific !

& the link for the songs :

http://www.raaga.com/channels/tamil/movie/T0000086.html
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Nakeeran
25th August 2006, 01:24 PM
[tscii:db07cbef5a]25/8/06

Song of the day : KAISE KAHOON

Hi all

IR had already composed a Hindi song in tamil movie – NANDU in the 80s , directed by Mahendran !

Sung by Bhupender Singh & S.Janaki, a nice composition & orchestration by Isainyani

But I believe , it was not that appreciated by fans !

But I enjoy hearing it .

Here is the link :

http://as01.coolgoose.com/music/song.php?id=59476&PHPSESSID=ccdf488fde495457080a6c6fcf9f0e86

So before today’s Kaise Kahaan , already there was a Kaise Kahoon ! :D [/tscii:db07cbef5a]

Nakeeran
26th August 2006, 01:52 PM
26/8/06


Singer : Chitra
Star : Rubini

http://ww.smashits.com/music/tamil/songs/2987/ninaikka-therintha-maname.html

Since my childhood days, I am swayed by this scintillating compo by Raja !
No words to describe the cheerful orchestration arrangement .
Only IR can do it !


Will be off for a week. Request pl someone to keep the thread active. I will be back next week.
Bye

tvsankar
29th August 2006, 01:01 PM
Dear all,
Nakeeran varum varai naan sila padal solla asai padugiren.

Today song :

from "Oru Oril Oru Rajakumari"

Song "Raja raja dhan"

About the song - Rajavin haunting tune !!!

link is here :

javascript:setList1(2709,'TSP')

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

tvsankar
29th August 2006, 01:10 PM
Dear all,
sorry for the disturbance. Here is the link:


http://www.tamilsongs.net/page/build/musicdirector/Illayaraja/16.html

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

tvsankar
30th August 2006, 12:28 PM
Dear all,

Today song : Naan Undhan thayaga vendum
Film : Ullasa paravaigal

Piditha kaaranam : SJ in voice !!! IR's violin and IR's Mohanam !!!!

http://www.tamilsongs.net/page/build/album/Ullaasa_Paravaigal/index.html

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

ramky
3rd September 2006, 04:46 PM
Usha Sankar : thnx for the link !

btw I also like "Germany-in senthEn malarE" sung by S.P.B & S.Janaki in the same film !

swathy
3rd September 2006, 07:33 PM
Usha Sankar : thnx for the link !

btw I also like "Germany-in senthEn malarE" sung by S.P.B & S.Janaki in the same film !

I also like Deiveega raagam thevittadha paadal

Nakeeran
4th September 2006, 03:26 PM
Hi all :D

I am back now

Usha Shankar Mam , thanks a lot for ur support :D

Swathy , welcome back . :D

where were u all these days ?


Ok. Today's song is an old one from a Kamal movie

Movie : Sattam en kayil
Singer : SPB
Song : Sorgam madhuvile sokkum azagile

SPB sings for a drunkard Kamal & its Raja special of the 70s

Here is the link :

http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=216620

Listening to the song, I conclude straight away that only SPB can give such an impact to a kamal song :!:

Nakeeran
5th September 2006, 05:42 PM
5/9/06

Today's song : SAMA KOZI EI KOOVUDHAMA

Movie : Ponnu Ooruku pudhusu
Singer : S.P.Shailaja & IR

While there is a new thread on Raja's folk music , I thought , lets put this song .
IR here had done a mix of folk & western

A 79 release but fresh still !

Here is the link :

http://music.msn.com/album/?album=39796173

Nakeeran
6th September 2006, 03:48 PM
6/9/06

SOTD : ENNA SUGAMANA ULAGAM
Movie : Garjanai
Singer : Malaysia Vasudevan

http://as01.coolgoose.com/music/song.php?id=190301&PHPSESSID=9685bd71a2252186e63a4ee5a8d51e05

a very old Rajini movie with Madhavi .

The violin prelude & the dhum dhum drum beats in sync. With the picturisation . Rk & Madhavi will be going around the city in a big bedcot !

I think SP.Muthuraman is the director .

Nakeeran
7th September 2006, 05:04 PM
7/9/06

Song of the day :

http://as01.coolgoose.com/music/song.php?id=49951

Movie : Karumbu vil
Star : Sudhakar
Song : MEEN KODI THERIL MANMADHA RAJAN



This solo song has 2 versions :

1. Jency
2. KJY

Both are scintillating . I understand, the rhythm was very unique & fans listened to it with mouth opened at large

My pick reason is for the tremendous bass support that runs through the song !

& that Ola Ola Olalala is typical IR stuff

Another forgotten gem probably ! :cry:

Renault
7th September 2006, 05:29 PM
Gem of a song... Gr8 pick Nakeeran..

I think this is once again a BR movie.. I remembering seeing this song once.. very bad picturisation.

Oara Oara is a nice begining to the song.

Raja gives a typical fisher-folk tune for this song and the lyics supports the same as well.

This film could well be remembered for this song alone and nothing else.

vasanth2006
7th September 2006, 06:21 PM
Good Pick Nakeeran.

This song's composition, rhythm pattern is different. mainly the feel of this song is something different from IR style. i somehow feel like that. very nice song.

in this film there is another song "malargalile" sung by SJ, that also nice song.

Nakeeran
8th September 2006, 02:45 PM
Renault & Vasanth . Thanks :D

8/9/06

Recollecting the old classics of IR again :cry:

SOTD : GEETHA SANGEETHA
Movie : Anbe Sangeetha
Singers : Jayachandran - Jency

This movie sank with a trace I was told but 2 gems I could identify.

Its vintage IR stuff of the old again !

http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=100280

By this period, I was told, IR became totally instrumental oriented .

The opening through Lalalalala - Jency & the honey voice of Jayachandran are something to cherish :D

Nakeeran
9th September 2006, 05:20 PM
9/9/06

SOTD : SIRIYA PARAVAI SIRAGAI VIRIKA
Movie : Andha oru nimidam
Singer : SPB - S.Janaki

Though this song, IR firmly established a niche for himself .

Listen to the orchestration . The entire song comes as a wonderful fully complete package

http://www.raaga.com/channels/tamil/lyrics/6450.html

The picturisation however was aweful. Kamal & Oorvasi , dressed up like Raja Rani & all other stuff.

A WONDERFUL SONG WASTED BY SOME UNIMAGINATIVE PICTURISATION :evil: :evil:

tfmlover
10th September 2006, 01:44 AM
Renault & Vasanth . Thanks :D

8/9/06

Recollecting the old classics of IR again :cry:

SOTD : GEETHA SANGEETHA
Movie : Anbe Sangeetha
Singers : Jayachandran - Jency

This movie sank with a trace I was told but 2 gems I could identify.

Its vintage IR stuff of the old again !

http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=100280

By this period, I was told, IR became totally instrumental oriented .

The opening through Lalalalala - Jency & the honey voice of Jayachandran are something to cherish :D
anbE sangeetha !
chinna puraa ondru enna kanaavinil :thumbsup:

Nakeeran
11th September 2006, 01:59 PM
Hi TFML :D

Chinna pura ondru - super song !

Link irundha kodunga pls :)

11/9/06

SOTD : ANNE ANNE SIPPAI ANNE
Movie : Kozi koovudhu
Singers : ??????

Actually group singers seem to sing deliberately in another voice !

It was my childhood song & still fresh in memory :D



http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=98598

Nakeeran
12th September 2006, 02:44 PM
12/9/06

Today a classical song for a change :D .

Movie : Kannil theriyum kadaigal
Song : NAN ORU PON OVIYAM KANDEN IDHILE
Singers : SPB , P.Susheela , S.Janaki

Movie had 4 composers I believe & Raja is one among.

While Shankar Ganesh had a hit on Nan unna nenaichen,

Raja stands out for Nan oru pon oviyam .

Link :


http://www.coolgoose.com/music/song.php?id=95870

Nakeeran
13th September 2006, 02:12 PM
13/9/06


Singers : Jayachandran - P.Susheela
Stars : Shivakumar - Sumitra

Again, another movie of the golden years of IR which I believe was a failure but the song was a super hit !

This song speed is synonymous with a speeding fast train & the entire orchestration was based such :D

Another train song I recollect now is Poovarasampoo poothachu !


http://www.odeo.com/audio/1706899/play

Nakeeran
14th September 2006, 03:22 PM
14/9/06


Singers : SPB - P.Susheela

A Rajini movie . Surprised by the soft tone modulation from P.S. !
WHile SPB at his ever casual self .

Kodai kanal kurinji malarin jadhi - SPB special :D


http://www.musicindiaonline.com/l/26/s/movie_name.4160/

Kanna
14th September 2006, 03:29 PM
...En, adhu en, ena kaetta theriyum saedhi...Naa dhan chinna ponnu, poovum naanum onnu...

Evergreen IR @ work

app_engine
14th September 2006, 10:43 PM
"KATHODU POOVOM RASA" illeengO...
adhu 'kAththOdu poo orasa' (wind "caressing" flower):-)

vasanth2006
14th September 2006, 11:10 PM
13/9/06

SOTD : MANJAL NILAVUKKU INDRU ORE SUGAM
Movie : Mudhal iravu
Singers : Jayachandran - P.Susheela
Stars : Shivakumar - Sumitra

Again, another movie of the golden years of IR which I believe was a failure but the song was a super hit !

This song speed is synonymous with a speeding fast train & the entire orchestration was based such :D

Another train song I recollect now is Poovarasampoo poothachu !


http://www.odeo.com/audio/1706899/play


Very good song from late 70's IR. superb melody especially saranam part tune.

:D

Nakeeran
15th September 2006, 02:22 PM
15/9/06


Singers : SPB & P.Susheela

Listen to the innovation of IR . The pallavai part is full of overlapping

After SPB sings - En kanmani
SPB himself overlaps with - Un kathali
& then - Ilamangani
Unai parthadhum
Sirikindradhen
Sirikindradhen

Innovation of sorts :D

Take it for the day :

http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=143005

Nakeeran
16th September 2006, 01:42 PM
16/9/06


Singers : Big group of singers & IR also part of them

Any folk compo. of IR is unique but when he mixes folk with western , its special !

Observe the start & U will realize the innovation :D

http://as01.coolgoose.com/music/song.php?id=181944&PHPSESSID=a4f4aee1a8a8569ae1014673e4088f32

Renault
16th September 2006, 09:19 PM
Nakkeeran sir,

Swathi has already opened this song for discussion some time back and also got myself introduced to this good song..

I suggest we have a gap of atleast 3-4 days per song for more members to contribute.. this will also help non regular hubbers to contribute..

I see lot of gem songs going without any comments if we have this as a regular exercise.. you may bring in all those uncommented song picks of yours little later as well with neat time gaps interspersed.

Nakeeran
20th September 2006, 03:23 PM
Nakkeeran sir,

Swathi has already opened this song for discussion some time back and also got myself introduced to this good song..

I suggest we have a gap of atleast 3-4 days per song for more members to contribute.. this will also help non regular hubbers to contribute..

I see lot of gem songs going without any comments if we have this as a regular exercise.. you may bring in all those uncommented song picks of yours little later as well with neat time gaps interspersed.

Renault . Point taken :D

SOTD : ORU KUNGUMA CHENGAMALAM
Movie : Aradhanai
Singers : SPB -S.J

http://as01.coolgoose.com/music/song.php?id=153089

I chose this song for the first interlude :D Full of flute & violin overlapping each other !

ezy0265
20th September 2006, 07:07 PM
There is this song from the early 90's by Ilaiyaraja with Sathyaraj and Banupriya..there is this beautiful song which goes like "Intha Raasavukku Thanni Vaikkalaama" or something like that.

It is a soft melodious song with chorus type vocals throughout. Anyone knows which film it is and if it available in gooltoad or something?

Thank you very much.

raaja_rasigan
20th September 2006, 08:57 PM
Two songs i want to mention:

Film: Kunguma chimil
song: Nilavu thoongum neram

Mouth organ piece :clap: :thumbsup:

Film: Thirumathi palanichami
song: Padha kolusu paatu

sweet slow melody & its lyrics + picturisation :clap: :thumbsup:

rayan36
22nd September 2006, 09:52 AM
15/9/06

SOTD : EN KANMANI UN KATHALI
Movie : Chittukurivi
Singers : SPB & P.Susheela

Listen to the innovation of IR . The pallavai part is full of overlapping

After SPB sings - En kanmani
SPB himself overlaps with - Un kathali
& then - Ilamangani
Unai parthadhum
Sirikindradhen
Sirikindradhen

Innovation of sorts :D

Take it for the day :

http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=143005


This is a brilliant piece of work without the modern technology of singing bit by bit

Nakeeran
22nd September 2006, 04:56 PM
Singers : SPB - S. J.

This is a class movie & definitely should come under Kamal's top 25 & all songs are outstanding . This movie is another classic example of IR's carnatic music skills :D

But my pick today is a melodious number ! & this happens to be a night song & U will feel the night effect through the flute preludes & interludes !

Splendid compo !

The song starts , runs & also ends at the same pace

The interlude is all flute , flute, flute

I could hear a lead flute & another one supporting from the back !

Even the second interlude has flute only !

May be the best of the moods of IR !

One of the best albums of Isainyani

Link below :

http://ww.smashits.com/music/tamil/songs/3092/salangai-oli.html

Missing that old divine touch of Maestro :cry:

Renault
24th September 2006, 12:48 PM
On small snippet on this song is that in the last One Man show by Maestro, he sang a bit of this song in the Telugu version just to cater to the Telugu audience in the crowd there.

Nakeeran
26th September 2006, 03:33 PM
Singer : T.L.Maharajan

A very old Rajini movie & rarely we have heard voices from other singers except SPB or MV.

I love this song for the tremendous start , cowboyish , very peppy , full of enthu .
A fast paced song

Just listen to the chorus preludes . Terrific start :D

http://as01.coolgoose.com/music/song.php?id=256539&PHPSESSID=51088ea2a237ef3102f23fb3a24c7d69

Nakeeran
28th September 2006, 01:48 PM
Singer : KJY solo

This Rajini movie song is not for Rajini ! Saratbabu sings this wonderful compo . :D

Listen to the flute interludes when the Jeep passes through the mountain ranges & U will get the cooooool breeze feeling .

Thats IR :D

http://www.dishant.com/album/Mullum-Malarum.html

swathy
28th September 2006, 02:46 PM
very good pick nakeeran

i like this song very much :-)

Nakeeran
28th September 2006, 03:25 PM
very good pick nakeeran

i like this song very much :-)

O thanks Swathy.

Oru malai padhaila pogura madhiri interludes varum through flute.
Superb compo :D

raaja_rasigan
29th September 2006, 04:27 PM
Film: kokkarakoo

Song: Geetham sangeetham needhane en kaadhal vedham

Singer: SPB
Writer: vairamuthu

one more nice melody from Raaja

Sanjeevi
29th September 2006, 05:14 PM
Film: kokkarakoo

Song: Geetham sangeetham needhane en kaadhal vedham

Singer: SPB
Writer: vairamuthu

one more nice melody from Raaja

:2thumbsup:
Not one more melody, it is special song to me. Whenever i am listening this song, i feel the fresh. Whata song :D

Nakeeran
30th September 2006, 03:08 PM
Singers : MV & SJ

Rarely MV sang for Kamal . This movie had just 2 songs but both are special songs .
I believe IR & BR broke that taboo of being called as Gramathans through this movie.
While BR proved his critics wrong by taking a city based subject, IR proved his class by splendid BGM .


http://tamilsongs.allindiansite.com/sigappu_rojakkal.html


Enjoy and happy week end :D

raaja_rasigan
30th September 2006, 03:30 PM
SOTD : INDHA MINMINIKKU KANNIL ORU MINNAL VANDHADHU
Enjoy and happy week end

nakeeran, enna oru aacharyam :!: :!: :!: :!:

ippozhudhu indha song patri kuripidathaan indha threadukkul nulaindhen....... neenga mundhikittinga..... any way good song, actors vai asaikkaadha song... sri devi & the song picturisation is nice

I too wish all of u a happy weekend :D

raaja_rasigan
30th September 2006, 03:35 PM
OK ennoda:

SOTD: vandhanam vandhanam
Film: Aan Paavam
Situation: Title song

Raaja adha avvalavu enthuva paadi iruppaaru along w/ chorus...
Also in the film, they will show rajini, kamal & other personalities of that time, in the title.
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SOTD: kuiley kuiley poonguiley
Film: Aan Paavam
Situation: duet

Voice of Malaysiya Vasudevan will be a treat to hear along w/ the lyrics. Ippellam lyrics engae puriyudhu :cry:

Renault
30th September 2006, 07:55 PM
Raja rasigan,

It's heartening to see your enthusiaism in this thread. However it will be very good for this thread if we have a particular "Song of the day" discussed for at least 3 days for the following reasons:

1. It gives fellow hubbers time to visit this thread and contribute as well.

2. Lot of high quality masterpiece songs go unnoticed due to not much time given for hubbers to contribute.

I think Nakkeeran is doing a splendid job in picking awesome songs, if you wish to have your pick for a day.. pls request him as a pvt message and am sure he will entertain your wish.

Cheers

ramky
1st October 2006, 02:58 PM
SOTD : INDHA MINMINIKKU KANNIL ORU MINNAL VANDHADHU
Movie : Sigappu rojakal
Singers : MV & SJ

Rarely MV sang for Kamal . This movie had just 2 songs but both are special songs .
I believe IR & BR broke that taboo of being called as Gramathans through this movie.
While BR proved his critics wrong by taking a city based subject, IR proved his class by splendid BGM .


http://tamilsongs.allindiansite.com/sigappu_rojakkal.html


Enjoy and happy week end :D

Superb song Nakeeran - one of my alltime Nostalgic favorites ! When the film was released I was still in school and I used to listen frequently to the Film's radio program - while (supposedly) doing the homework !

swathy
3rd October 2006, 08:14 AM
Date: October 3
Song: Thendral varum
Singers: Balasubramaniam S.P.,Janaki. S
Movie: Paaru Paaru Pattanam paaru
Year of release: 1986

Link: http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=174310

Nakeeran
3rd October 2006, 09:36 PM
Nice one Swathy !

I have never heard this .

And what about the movie ? Any idea about the star cast ? Name looks like a Ramarajan movie !

I like SPB's voice here .

great
3rd October 2006, 11:06 PM
My pick :

SONG: Thendral vanthu theendum pothu enna pannumo

Movie: Avathaaram

Singers: Ilaiyaraaja, S.Janaki

http://music.cooltoad.com/music/song.php?id=131786

Happy listening :2thumbsup:

Nakeeran
3rd October 2006, 11:11 PM
Greatna and others - one special request

IR's songs are like a big ocean . Pl send a PM to Swathy , the song of ur choice and give the links also so that Swathy will post .

Lets entrust the task to one person please. I am seeing everyone posting . He he :D

great
3rd October 2006, 11:17 PM
Nakkeran Anna.

Naan ungaloda chinna payan 8-) I read somewhere you are 80 born :)

raaja_rasigan
8th October 2006, 02:08 AM
Past few days there are no new songs, so i give 1:

Song: Muthumani chudare vaa
Film: Anbulla Rajinikanth
Singer: KJY

superb song & a different 1 for rajini.
KJY voice for rajini is Apt, tune & lyrics also.

ezy0265
8th October 2006, 03:34 PM
Hi all,

was watching Vijay TV and a beautiful IR song from the 80's was played. It goes like 'Kaatre Sollu (or sellu?)' and was a Prabhu and Sulokchana starrer. The duet was sung by MV and another female can't figure. Any one knows what movie this is from? If possible could you also provide link if it is available on the net.

Thanks.

jrf
9th October 2006, 09:30 PM
Hi All,

Luckily I came across this thread and I was pleasantly surprised to see people cherishing the same feeling about music as mine. All these years I never I thought I would find these many folks.. Go on guys...
Very glad to see the alter ego(s).

Perhaps, this is my first post in this website.

I'd been an ardent lover of Ilayaraja's songs esp.., my childhood songs that I used to listen from the radio while on my way to school.

One song that might've missed in your radar.
Mana Malayum Manjalum soodi pudhu Kolangal

After living in West of the world for all these 10 years, There is nothing like my favorite songs that bring my wonderful memories about my heavenly town in Tamil Nadu and surrouding villages and life..

I am literally dying to share my collections with you folks.

Good luck..