Metallica's influence on TFM

[Bipolar]

How much influence do you guys think Metallica had on TFM? I think all our composers beginning with Ilayaraja have been directly or indirectly influenced by them. But then again, there is one Metallica song that sounds as if it was influenced by TFM - "Nothing else matters" - written by James Hetfield, that song has an intro that sounds a bit "Indian" in style, to my ears, at least. Agree/disagree?

[rocketboy]

Ilayaraja influenced by Metallica. :? Sorry your imagination is far stretched.

[MusicIsLife]

Wow nice topic!!

But I always felt Ozzy (Black Sabbath) influence, Led Zep string arrangements were in some of the songs, but Metallica? i have to see that. But surely listen to Amakalam by Bharadwaj, he had used nice HARD-ROCK/METAL based music to blend with amazing local rythms.

Ninaithale Inikkum's Engayum Eppodhum had Ozzy's, Black Sabbath "Paranoid" had lot of similarities.

[MusicIsLife]

By the way Bipolar U should probably include (HARD ROCK/METAL) influence rather than Metallica singled out in the topic that gives more scope.

[rashid2raj]

I DON'T THINK SO..

[MADDY]

i dunno Metallica, but Rahman's guitar riffs in the interludes of Girlfriend wer so much Aerosmith's style........

Metallica??? i'm really scratching my head for their brand of music in TFM........to a large extent ARR,Bharadwaj had the classical rock / elvis presly kinda rock'n'roll type of songs......but none had a real rock touch in them......

but i wud like to see a hardcore rock album in TFM and see how ppl. wud react to it.....maybe ARR can try it for sakkarakatti....... :wink:

[MusicIsLife]

Maddy,
Amarkalam had gr8 riffs that sounded somewhere like "Rage against Machine" but not metallica.

Girlfriend was not Aerosmith style in my opinion, Girlfriend was more close to "Third Eye Blind".

Anyways,in my opinion the people who tried hardrock was MSV in ninaithale inikkum (Ozzy Paranoid and Engayum Eppothum) and also Bharadwaj in amarkalam. I have not seen IR influenced by HR/METAL

Another key ARR improvisation of a good hard rock/metal composition I felt is in Dil-Se song -> which had riffs very similar to Ozzy's "No more Tears" and "Mama I am coming Home"

[MusicIsLife]

Maddy,
I just watched RDB, the BGM is one that sets the movie apart, i could not believe the Metal influence in this, ARR took very key effort in the BGM to infuse cool Hard rock string arrangements (it looks more like a bridge Dire Straits and Peter Frampton and here and there of Jimmy Hendrix, the drums looked more vintage British Metal especially Iron Maiden).
I am happy to listen to gr8 music.

[Bipolar]

Hey guys, thanks for the response so far, even if it seems I'm wrong about influence by hard rock/metal groups... I'm wondering, if any of you guys would be interested in trying this: try writing Tamil lyrics to Metallica's Unforgiven II, can anyone do that? And then, there's a few other things ideas I have (I'll be posting further on TFMpage's sister page, ForumHub) that I'd like to suggest to people, I'd like to see how it goes...

[rajasaranam]

MIL,

Have you ever listened to IR's 'Rasiganae En arugil Vaa' from Manipoor maamiyaar. I thought it was hardrock/heavy metal song. listen to it and let me know
http://www.tamilsongs.net/page/build/album/Manippoor_Maamiyaar/index.html
and also songs like 'Sing Swing' from Moodupani and 'Baby o Baby' from Kaali had some hardrock influences rather than being Disco nos.

[MusicIsLife]

RS,
Nope, it is more punk-rock piece of interludes and influence like the dum-are-dum (zeenat amman song). I cannot generalize this way, but it is more in between Punk-rock/Flashdance/80's disco music, the only Hardrock influence I fell is subtle variation from the WHO.

[MusicIsLife]

Nooravathu Naal nall had excellent interludes in the BGM that totally had some good amount of HARDROCK influence. another movie I see is in Sivapoo Rojakkal (ninaivo oru paravai). The only gr8 thing about IR is he makes everything IR'ish and close to a common man listening (yet complex in nature). Kaali has amazing interludes in the BGM. Amaithipadai BGM has some HARDROCK influence, the chasing scene with Sujatha and the tabla, IR makes a hardrock appeal with local instruments, if you imagine, a good metallica song "Enter Sandman" interlude would work just as perfect as it is.

Have you seen Rang-De-Basanti, you will know what I mean, that has a phenomenal HARDROCK/METAL influence, and purity of the interludes to stay in its roots. I am total metal head so I cannot stay quiet without applauding this.

[rajasaranam]

Have you seen Rang-De-Basanti, you will know what I mean, that has a phenomenal HARDROCK/METAL influence, and purity of the interludes to stay in its roots. I am total metal head so I cannot stay quiet without applauding this.

Yeah I enjoyed RDB BGM till it was in the current timeline. But when he used the same BGM for Azaad escaping from britishers during the ravan mela incident I got totally pissed off :( These are areas where IR excells in BGM dept. he would have given variation for the timeline aspect :)

[Scale]

Nooravathu Naal nall had excellent interludes in the BGM that totally had some good amount of HARDROCK influence. another movie I see is in Sivapoo Rojakkal (ninaivo oru paravai). The only gr8 thing about IR is he makes everything IR'ish and close to a common man listening (yet complex in nature). Kaali has amazing interludes in the BGM. Amaithipadai BGM has some HARDROCK influence, the chasing scene with Sujatha and the tabla, IR makes a hardrock appeal with local instruments, if you imagine, a good metallica song "Enter Sandman" interlude would work just as perfect as it is.

Have you seen Rang-De-Basanti, you will know what I mean, that has a phenomenal HARDROCK/METAL influence, and purity of the interludes to stay in its roots. I am total metal head so I cannot stay quiet without applauding this.

Amazing!. Ippadi oru specific genrekkaghave BGM list panradhu Great. :notworthy:

What about Vandemaataram Title track?

[MusicIsLife]

Scale
I cannot relate, Vandemaataram?

[MusicIsLife]

Scale,
I cannot stop raving about RDB, something is so close to my heart, did you notice when the pages turn and she drops the diary, amazing BGM. something new and something very fresh, lot of work, I was disappointed with Mangal Pandey BGM though I like the Mangala Mangala and Rani Mukherjee song, but RDB set things in the right path. At least HFM people should start thinking before giving just remixes.

I digressed so much in a TFM forum, so let us resort to the topic.

[rocketboy]

LAJJA also had amazing BGM. RDB BGM sounds so familiar .