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njv
3rd November 2007, 03:51 AM
Digression...
Whether Raja is going to score for this movie or not, the title of this movie is not a big favourite to me:-( The same goes for the other Kamal venture 10 avatar. Can't these guys get any new name for their movies, why dig deep into archives?

If they can't be even creative enough to put together a new title, how much creativity can you expect in the content? araichcha mAvu + new technology is all one can expect. Same goes for music too - remix or copy notes + ultra modern equipment to give "sounds" is what we're going to get...

We can understand if some 3rd grade producer / artists do such things, but difficult to digest a colossal talent like Kamal falling into this rote...(சதி லீலாவதின்னு முன்னும் இதே வேலை செய்திருக்கிறார்...)
End-digression

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:lol:

Poor Kamal. He either have political pressure or fan pressure to change the title :lol:

njv
3rd November 2007, 04:00 AM
For some of such "cool" examples from Kamal movies, take SKV or Kakkisattai. Such albums will score great in market (I'm sure they'll work countrywide as well). All that Kamal has to convince Adlabs (i.e. if he wants to have IR) is "Let's remix SKV or Kakkisattai or vetRi vizha songs":-)

Find 1 man in the whole world who can remix IR songs.

There are very few songs of IR that came in as remix, that tool not really remix, but either with rap or with some simple additional synth drums, but find me a person who can remix IR songs.

i will pay for him to come up with remix CD.

Dragun
3rd November 2007, 04:15 AM
I think app_engine meant that facetiously, as a knock at the current trend of remixing old songs.

K
3rd November 2007, 08:33 AM
For some of such "cool" examples from Kamal movies, take SKV or Kakkisattai. Such albums will score great in market (I'm sure they'll work countrywide as well). All that Kamal has to convince Adlabs (i.e. if he wants to have IR) is "Let's remix SKV or Kakkisattai or vetRi vizha songs":-)

Find 1 man in the whole world who can remix IR songs.

There are very few songs of IR that came in as remix, that tool not really remix, but either with rap or with some simple additional synth drums, but find me a person who can remix IR songs.

i will pay for him to come up with remix CD.


Only person who can proper remix Ir's songs is he himself, listen Saara e aalam of shiva2006, Prathidhinam ne Darshanam of Anumanspadan and Cheenikum songs and judge what is remix

raja_fan
3rd November 2007, 08:56 AM
"I think app_engine meant that facetiously, as a knock at the current trend of remixing old songs."

A_E,

Vara vara unga post thirukkural maadhiri aayiduchu polirukku ? :)
Makkal adharkku interpretation panni urai ezhudharaanga ( Yerkkanave oru post appadi irundhadhu "I think a_e is...." )

:) :)
Just joking !

Billgates
3rd November 2007, 09:33 AM
App-Engine should refrain from talking -ve about Kamal in a NON-KAMAL THREAD. Pls do it APP

raja_fan
3rd November 2007, 11:01 AM
" App-Engine should refrain from talking -ve about Kamal in a NON-KAMAL THREAD. Pls do it APP "

How is this fair ?

This is NON-Kamal Thread. So no one should talk negative about Kamal here ?

Then nobody can talk negative in Kamal thread, because it will be a Kamal thread..
Appo vera enge thaan pesaradhu ? :)

This is IR thread. But we accept people to criticize and talk negative about IR himself ! It is up to one to ignore / accept / argue such postings !

Unless the comments are indecent or in bad taste, we have to accept all these in a public blog :)

sureshmehcnit
3rd November 2007, 11:48 AM
I invite all to visit the 'Instrumental' section of my backgroundscore.blogspot.com

I will be posting some of IR's instrumental versions of the songs there..

http://backgroundscore.blogspot.com/2007/11/instrumentals.html

Billgates
3rd November 2007, 08:53 PM
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/kannada/s/movie_name.9364/

Link above for the Kannada movie AA DINAGALU . There is a lengthy commentary before the song. can someone translate ?

The Aa dinagalu song is MESMERIZING ! Why IR is giving such a stuff in tamil now !!!

crajkumar_be
4th November 2007, 05:39 PM
And about arbitrary song for arbitrary situation...well, if 'mandRam vandha thendRal' can become 'cheeni kum', why not other popular numbers? I don't see iLamai idhO idhO not working for any new dance number...(I think somebody already did a commercial on this for coke, was it Balki?)
A_E,
:notthatway:
1) It looks like its going to be a historical
2) Even if its going to be a contemporary movie, just because "mandram vandha" sat well on top of Cheeni Kum, there is no guarantee that SKV/KC songs will sit on top of *any* modern movie
3) Like i said before, these songs will never work up north but thats just IMO...
<On an unrelated note, 'Ilamai Idho Idho" is my most favorite song of all time :) >

krish244
6th November 2007, 10:13 PM
IR to score for a 90 minute animated malayalam movie:

http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEO20071106020848&Page=O&Headline=Animating+the+Malayalam+movie+scene&Title=Thiruvananthapuram&Topic=0

thanks,

Krishnan

rajaalltheway
19th November 2007, 06:08 PM
Malayalam movies artists associations' mega venture starring almost all major stars may have Ayyas' music.AYYA yet to say yes.

rajaalltheway
19th November 2007, 06:11 PM
Superstar Mohanlals production house has signed Ayya for their next movie directed by Sathyan Anthikkad after the superhit RASATHANTHRAM.Movie stars Lal and Meera Jasmine.

crvenky
19th November 2007, 07:24 PM
Rajaalltheway,
Thanks for the update on Ayya's new projects. Looks interesting.

rooky
20th November 2007, 08:39 AM
Kannada film Ah Dinagalu is approaching 50days and looks like a succesful one

http://nowrunning.com/news/news.asp?it=12754

raja_fan
20th November 2007, 09:07 AM
rajaalltheway,

Ayya..ayya-nu uruga vaikkareengale..:)

Ungalukku cinema friends irukkaangalaa ? eppadi indha news-laam theriyudhu ?
vera yedhaavadhu news irukkaa in tamil ?

It seems Marmayogi's tech crew is not officially decided. Is Ayya being considered ?

rajaalltheway
20th November 2007, 12:40 PM
not much hope on Ayya scoring for Marmayogi.Adlabs' Puja Shetty is pretty close to Rahman and she along with their finance director Venkat Devarajan is very keen on signing ARR

rajaalltheway
20th November 2007, 12:55 PM
Raja fan ,i work for a company who supply/service digital multi track recording systems to studios.Our company did the design of new recording and mix stage and supply of Euphonix Digital Control Audio Mixing Console at Panchathan,multi tracking at AVM,Prasad,Yash raj,Karthik,kalasa and many other places.Iam a small fry who get to visit studios frequently.I work very little and spent more time talking assistant musicians like t.s.muralidharan and other technicians.I sneak into recording areas.Im going to get fired soon

raja_fan
20th November 2007, 01:19 PM
rajaalltheway,

Thanks for the info.
In a way, you are lucky than rest of us ! You can have darshans of "Ayya" and see him working.
btw.., any info you have on recent rumours of Rajni teaming up with Ayya ? is it true ?

realactivex
20th November 2007, 03:46 PM
Hi raja all the way...
I tried sending you a PM.. somehow i think it did not get across to you..
I will be coming to chennai on 28th of this month ( The only time i had been there was 17 years ago).
Want ot use this opportunity to sneak into prasad's and watch teh maestro for just 20 seconds.. would that be possible using your good offices?
Please PM me with your number i will call you.

vasanth2006
21st November 2007, 12:33 AM
I work very little and spent more time talking assistant musicians like t.s.muralidharan and other technicians.I sneak into recording areas.Im going to get fired soon

<dig>
He is the MD of shree which has surya as a hero ...right?

the movie has some splendid songs...What happened to him?...I guessed he has some talent....hope someday it will come out...

</dig>

njv
21st November 2007, 06:24 AM
rajaalltheway - c ur pm. very important.

rooky
21st November 2007, 02:54 PM
Looks like Mayilu would be our IRs' next audio release

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news/nov-07-03/21-11-07-mayilu.html

somusic
21st November 2007, 06:42 PM
I saw about this new flim in malayalam.
Pazhassi Raja music by Raja sir...........
Directed by T.Hariharan.........hero is Mammooty...........
Any one know about the audio release of this movie.............

Then more info about "India 24 hours" (documentry flim 1996) composed by Raja sir........


Raja Saranam.

rajasaranam
21st November 2007, 07:07 PM
I saw about this new flim in malayalam.
Pazhassi Raja music by Raja sir...........
Directed by T.Hariharan.........hero is Mammooty...........
Any one know about the audio release of this movie.............

Then more info about "India 24 hours" (documentry flim 1996) composed by Raja sir........


Raja Saranam.

Yes the movie making is in progress and MT vasudevan nair is also associated with the movie.
Interestingly there is an older version of the movie 'pazhassiraja' released somewhere in the late 60's or early 70's which was scored by RKSekhar Father of ARRahman :)

India 24 hours was originally a work of a team of professional photographers who captured images of India chronicling the diversity of this country through lenses and published as a book. Later on it was made into a docu-feature for which Raaja scored the BGM and was relayed in DD.
The VDO CD of the documentry comes along with the book it seems and Iam yet to get hold of it :( This is a dream for me for the past 5 years or more

raja_fan
21st November 2007, 09:27 PM
Pazhassi Raja was planned to be released on Dec 25.

Not sure what is the current status.

rajaalltheway
21st November 2007, 11:53 PM
t.s.murli sir is very active in tv,ads and private albums etc.he had even worked with ayya for a film named manimekalai

vasanth2006
22nd November 2007, 12:00 AM
t.s.murli sir is very active in tv,ads and private albums etc.he had even worked with ayya for a film named manimekalai

Thanks for ur info...

somusic
22nd November 2007, 01:44 AM
Great info about India 24 hours........(thanks rajasaranam)

,,The flim Pazhassi raja made in 1964
Directed by Kunchako ,music composed by R.KShekar and the hero is prem nazir ......

vigneshram
22nd November 2007, 09:28 AM
I have the audio CD of "India 24 hours". Its really a treasure. One of Raja's masterpieces

app_engine
27th November 2007, 09:44 AM
http://dailythanthi.com/cn/cn_home.asp

Is IR doing music for a film called 'kaNkaLum kavi pAdudhE'?...so says this news..

rooky
30th November 2007, 09:24 AM
Naan Kadavul to arrive soon...

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/34964.html

http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/specials/2007/11/naan-kadavul-on-jan-26-29-1107.html

kavin
1st December 2007, 05:35 AM
has there ever been a period when a fresh evergreen IR song took so long to come by?

which is the most recent song of IR that touched your soul?

what in the hell is he doing with his time?

irir123
1st December 2007, 07:32 AM
hi - where can one order TiS CD online in Australia/New Zealand ?

SVN
1st December 2007, 08:56 PM
TiS can be ordered from http://cdbaby.com/ in association with Agi Music.

SVN
1st December 2007, 09:08 PM
Here's the link to the album, "Thiruvasakam: A Classical Crossover"

http://cdbaby.com/cd/ilaiyaraja2

irir123
2nd December 2007, 08:42 AM
SVN - am not sure if CD Baby ships to Australia/NZ - bsides, for quite sometime TiS is out of stock in CD Baby

rooky
2nd December 2007, 09:19 AM
2007 Roundup-IR: post your comments..
http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=1222970#1222970

Sanjeevi
2nd December 2007, 04:08 PM
http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/specials/2007/12/fazil-back-to-tamil-011207.html



புதிய படத்திற்கான கதை ரெடியாகி விட்டது. இசையமைப்பாளரும் கூட முடிவாகி விட்டார். வேறு யார், எனக்குப் பிடித்த இசைஞானி இளையராஜாதான். மற்ற கலைஞர்கள் குறித்த விவரங்களை விரைவில் அறிவிப்பேன் என்றார் பாசில்.

krish244
2nd December 2007, 11:09 PM
http://dailythanthi.com/cn/cn_home.asp

Is IR doing music for a film called 'kaNkaLum kavi pAdudhE'?...so says this news..

Two more links containing the same news:

http://tamil.galatta.com/entertainment/livewire/livewire/id/12110/news/KangalalKavipadithey.html

http://publication.samachar.com/pub_article.php?id=737891&navname=SouthCinema%20&moreurl=http://publication.samachar.com/msnindia/websites/entertainment/southcinema.php&homeurl=http://publication.samachar.com

"Music for the movie is by none other than the Maestro Illayaraja and Sandiranath is pretty sure each of the five songs will be a super hit"

Dont know when people will stop giving these kind of standard statements! :)

thanks,

Krishnan

raja_fan
3rd December 2007, 06:33 AM
krish244,

I watched "Madhu" in TV yesterday !
Kodumaiyilum kodumai ( Rajavin isayai thavira ).
God knows how IR reportedly got "impressed" for this story..

Looking at the 3 heroes- 3 heroines, love story etc.., I am 75% sure this new film is also going to be another kodumai...

krish244
3rd December 2007, 10:34 PM
Exactly Raja_fan. Even I felt the same after looking at the picture. Lets see.

thanks,

Krishnan

MumbaiRamki
5th December 2007, 12:21 PM
Madhu had splendid BGM - yes as like any other junk directed movie - the actors and the direction let the movie down!

Shankar
5th December 2007, 04:46 PM
>>>>
Madhu had splendid BGM - yes as like any other junk directed movie - the actors and the direction let the movie down!
<<<<
If Raja can spend 1/100'th of the time he spends in composing the BGSCore (not that he spends much time on scoring BGM :-) ) in listening to the script before signing a movie, he would've done himself a lot good commercially. This, probably, is the second thing he can learn from ARR (the first being the use of synth :-) )

rajasaranam
5th December 2007, 05:22 PM
>>>>
Madhu had splendid BGM - yes as like any other junk directed movie - the actors and the direction let the movie down!
<<<<
If Raja can spend 1/100'th of the time he spends in composing the BGSCore (not that he spends much time on scoring BGM :-) ) in listening to the script before signing a movie, he would've done himself a lot good commercially. This, probably, is the second thing he can learn from ARR (the first being the use of synth :-) )

Sorry Shankar! ARR himself has said in an interview that he doesnt listen to the storyline or script of the movie. He just needs the scenes preceding and succeding a song sequence for him to compose the songs. Apart from that he is shrewd enough to pick and team up with good and successful directors/production houses, which definitely is not one Raaja needs to learn from him. Because he has given huge hits to miserable directors/Uppuma companies - movies which broke records only for his music.

And a director may be finding it easy to convey his story in a narrative form in direct to a person and may fail miserably while presenting it on the celluloid. Thinking of the films that Raaja has composed in post 2000's it is very clearly evident that all these movies had a different storyline while it was not well presented in the screen. That aspect of a director can never be judged by Raaja or ARR. Look at the fate of SOK and ATM :) or even tens and more of hindi films composed by ARR- post 2000's - almost 80% of the movies he composed were flops in boxoffice. The only hits that I remember are RDB, Sivaji.

Raaja has nothing to learn from ARR. Period!

raja_fan
5th December 2007, 05:59 PM
Raja was never choosy in eighties or nineties post 2000 !

But now it is more noticed because of the very less number of films he does nowadays. In eighties, he did almost everything that came his way. So crappy films got suppressed from view by classy films then.

The problem is that he always has his own cage to dwell ( also his advantage ). He never cares for what the people feel, his friends feel etc etc.

With a lot of time in his hands now, he can possibly wait for good scripts, take time to bring out the best songs for that script etc. But he is just like natural rain ( as told by editor of Kumudam some years back ). It will some times pour, some times drizzle, some times clouds will gather but disappoint etc..never care if it is excess or meagre..never cares if people want or not want..it just wants to be itself..natural..a very rare quality..but for fans like us.., a limitation :)

Shankar
6th December 2007, 02:11 PM
>>>
Raaja has nothing to learn from ARR. Period!
<<<

Not in this life would arr have such a sick sounding synth drums :-)

I (and most IR fans, I'm sure) want the Raja of the old, who uses natural instruments, and comes out of his 4/4 std rhythm. He was the one who gave us songs with unbelievable thaLam changes.

crajkumar_be
6th December 2007, 02:19 PM
Not in this life would arr have such a sick sounding synth drums :-)

I (and most IR fans, I'm sure) want the Raja of the old, who uses natural instruments, and comes out of his 4/4 std rhythm. He was the one who gave us songs with unbelievable thaLam changes.
:exactly:

rajasaranam
6th December 2007, 04:36 PM
>>>
Raaja has nothing to learn from ARR. Period!
<<<

Not in this life would arr have such a sick sounding synth drums :-)

I (and most IR fans, I'm sure) want the Raja of the old, who uses natural instruments, and comes out of his 4/4 std rhythm. He was the one who gave us songs with unbelievable thaLam changes.

Athathaan naanum solraen Thalaivar avar style'laye music podanumnnu ethuvum ARR kitta kathukka vaenaamnnu.

venky_vinod
8th December 2007, 01:14 AM
>>>
Raaja has nothing to learn from ARR. Period!
<<<

Not in this life would arr have such a sick sounding synth drums :-)

I (and most IR fans, I'm sure) want the Raja of the old, who uses natural instruments, and comes out of his 4/4 std rhythm. He was the one who gave us songs with unbelievable thaLam changes.

Yes ! Yes !! Yes !!!

venky_vinod
8th December 2007, 01:36 AM
In that scene a strong acid rock guitar is played , it suddenly jerked if im listening to BGM of Raaja or of some Rock Star. I will try to upload that bit ( just 10 sec) tomorrow.
Please do, i havent watched the movie....

Are you referring to the "Non-Veg Melody / Melody-Saxophone" which is part of the music CD ?

rooky
12th December 2007, 04:06 PM
http://nowrunning.com/news/news.aspx?it=13083

Aa Dinagalu crosses 50 :)

vem
15th December 2007, 08:23 AM
Kamal has ditched his favorite IR for his MArma Yogi!

It could be due to the fact that Marma Yogi is a high budget movie, unlike the earlier low budget crap Mumbai xpress. He has roped in ARR for his dream project.

http://www.cinesouth.com/masala/hotnews/new/14122007-
1.shtml

As a die hard fan of IR, I am definitely sad. But from Kamal's point of view, I feel he may be right in not chosing over the hill IR.

irir123
15th December 2007, 09:34 PM
Vem - Marmayogi is being produced by Reliance/Adlabs, who apparently were adamant about ARR doing the music than IR - Kamal's hands are tied - if it were his Rajkamal prodns it wud have been a different story

rooky
17th December 2007, 11:16 PM
http://nowrunning.com/news/news.aspx?it=13083

Aa Dinagalu crosses 50 :)

http://sify.com/movies/kannada/fullstory.php?id=14573892

Deserving credit to IR there.

raja_fan
21st December 2007, 08:31 AM
Don't miss Cheeni Kum on this Sunday 12 noon on Sony Max !! :)

http://www.hindu.com/cp/2007/12/21/stories/2007122150451400.htm

krish244
21st December 2007, 02:24 PM
IR participated in the muhurat of multi-linugual animated movie on Lord Ayyappa. My guess is he is the MD.

http://www.screenindia.com/fullstory.php?content_id=18345

Go to the end of the article.

thanks,

Krishnan

raja_fan
21st December 2007, 02:58 PM
krish244,

You are right. IR is the MD !
http://www.hindu.com/2007/12/21/stories/2007122150400200.htm

rooky
27th December 2007, 09:11 AM
IR starts composing for sathyan's film.
Movie set to release in April.

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/malayalam/article/35511.html

raja_fan
27th December 2007, 10:45 AM
Hopefully IR has two big Malayalam releases on the same Vishu day. One with Mamooty and another with Mohan lal. Pazhassi Raja and Sathyan's film.

hmm..this shows IR has almost completely moved across the western ghats now :)
Earlier it was Rajni and Kamal releases on the same day !
Now Mamooty and Mohanlal...

hmm..engirundhaalum vaazhga ! :(

Renault
27th December 2007, 10:12 PM
Raja_fan,

At least he is able to give great numbers in Malayalam... Kaiyetha from Vinodayatra was an outstanding composition. He also has lots of scope to score in Mal movies...with Satyan's screenplay and background of Pazhassi Raja (historical).

Mayakannadi is one exception.. Konjam Konjam is one song I would say that has a great potential to become a hot, but didn't due to the fate of the movie in the box office.

If Kamal didn't / couldn't go with IR for Marmayogi, I would be disappointed, but the consolation for us would be that if the movie turns into a money spinner.. then Kamal can start of his magnum opus Marudhanayagam.

raja_fan
28th December 2007, 08:36 AM
Kamal needs ARR to get him money to work again with IR ?!
What a irony :( :(

irir123
28th December 2007, 08:57 AM
raja_fan: thats not wat renault meant! everything is now only in the pipeline - given that Kamal has always had problems with composers other than IR, especially when it comes to experimental historicals (such as Hey ram and now Marma yogi), Kamal opting for IR could be a sudden twist in the tale! lets wait and watch!

rajasaranam
28th December 2007, 11:02 AM
Raja_fan,

At least he is able to give great numbers in Malayalam... Kaiyetha from Vinodayatra was an outstanding composition. He also has lots of scope to score in Mal movies...with Satyan's screenplay and background of Pazhassi Raja (historical).

Mayakannadi is one exception.. Konjam Konjam is one song I would say that has a great potential to become a hot, but didn't due to the fate of the movie in the box office.

If Kamal didn't / couldn't go with IR for Marmayogi, I would be disappointed, but the consolation for us would be that if the movie turns into a money spinner.. then Kamal can start of his magnum opus Marudhanayagam.

Marudhanayagam is a closed chapter. Its been called off for social/casteist reasons not financial reasons :cry:

app_engine
28th December 2007, 10:41 PM
ok, 2007 is coming to an end. Let's continue the discussions here:
http://tfmpage.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=10869