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clnarain
17th June 2008, 12:19 AM
Guys,

I want to start this thread and get some opinion about what's happening at IIFA. As everyone knows, IIFA is projected as India's equivalent to Oscar, but regional films are totally ignored. I'm just putting forth my agonies which is what actor mamooty did a year or two back. The recent IIFA award ceremony granted 15 awards for Chak De India. Is this the only which was good at that time? Does this really put regional films into the back seat? Or should the name for IIFA be just changed to BIFA (to mean Bollywood). Pls provide your opinion.

VENKIRAJA
24th June 2008, 06:23 AM
I was not serious on this...Funnily an Indian award ceremony will happen in Dubai.And it'll be a stupid nominee list itself.Basically who cares?

crajkumar_be
24th June 2008, 12:28 PM
I was not serious on this...Funnily an Indian award ceremony will happen in Dubai.And it'll be a stupid nominee list itself.Basically who cares?
Bangkok this time :)

Well, we should not view this IIFA as anything more than a chance for side artists, dancers and stuntmen like Akshay Kumar, etc etc to showcase their skills and make money from the NRI crowd..

crajkumar_be
24th June 2008, 12:30 PM
Or should the name for IIFA be just changed to BIFA (to mean Bollywood). Pls provide your opinion.
:rotfl: In Kadhalan, Vadivel refers to "sittugal" category 3 (i think) as "biffa" :lol:

villan007
24th June 2008, 12:53 PM
:rotfl: In Kadhalan, Vadivel refers to "sittugal" category 3 (i think) as "biffa" :lol:

bipppa... bifffaa...biblak :rotfl:

Roshan
24th June 2008, 12:54 PM
:rotfl: In Kadhalan, Vadivel refers to "sittugal" category 3 (i think) as "biffa" :lol:

bipppa... bifffaa...biblak :rotfl:

Also Jill.. Jung and Juck :lol:

Devar Magan
24th June 2008, 01:11 PM
ofcourse.. Bollywood Fraud pasanga.. :evil:

dinesh2002
24th June 2008, 05:38 PM
yea... those frauds shouldnt use IIFA, if they wanna use it, give awards to the regional movies too... INDIAN means Tamil, Telugu, Kannada, Bengali, Hindi, Tulu, etc etc.

How dare they can assume they r the only INDIAN there....

isnt all the GREAT LEGENDS r from Tamil field.... those Hindi buggers dun have a Shankar, Mani, Rahman, Illayaraja, Ravi K. Chandran, K.V Anand, Kamal, Rajini, Nagesh, Vivek and other great peoples...

Tamizh Valghe!!!! :D

littlemaster1982
24th June 2008, 05:38 PM
I was not serious on this...Funnily an Indian award ceremony will happen in Dubai.And it'll be a stupid nominee list itself.Basically who cares?
Bangkok this time :)

Well, we should not view this IIFA as anything more than a chance for side artists, dancers and stuntmen like Akshay Kumar, etc etc to showcase their skills and make money from the NRI crowd..

:rotfl: :rotfl:

Nerd
25th June 2008, 12:12 AM
This year aamir khan refused to send TZP :P

Vivasaayi
25th June 2008, 12:13 AM
This year aamir khan refused to send TZP :P

:D

clnarain
25th June 2008, 08:34 AM
Hmm...something has to done to stop this. As mamooty rightly pointed out, the so called IIFA management should make a note of it. They are creating a wrong impression to the outside world about India's image and it's films. Bollywood films are no more than soft porn movies and almost 90% are inspiration (copy?) from hollywood movies. There is absolutely no indian culture shown in these stupid hindi films...Let's hope things will change soon.

crajkumar_be
25th June 2008, 03:19 PM
aahaa, ennappa ellarum inga IIFA-oda serthu ottumothama Bollywood-aye vimarsikkareenga.. IMO Bollywood is ahead of us now... :(

Kalyasi
25th June 2008, 04:14 PM
aahaa, ennappa ellarum inga IIFA-oda serthu ottumothama Bollywood-aye vimarsikkareenga.. IMO Bollywood is ahead of us now... :(

Ethu Budget laya? illati delivering more crap movies ngara category laya?

crajkumar_be
25th June 2008, 04:24 PM
Kalyan,
Niram, gunam, suvai moonruleyum! :)

Kalyasi
25th June 2008, 05:18 PM
Bala anna, Niram othukalaam, Gunam and Suvai are the two aspects that needs to be questioned...

Nerd
25th June 2008, 07:45 PM
bollywood is miles ahead of kollywood in terms of script/execution/technical excellence etc 8-) but except SRK nobody cares for IIFA :lol:

Mahen
25th June 2008, 08:09 PM
bollywood is miles ahead of kollywood in terms of script/execution/technical excellence etc 8-) but except SRK nobody cares for IIFA :lol:

No way! In terms of technical excellence, Kollywood is miles ahead...And for script, i would say both bolly and kolly are in the same line...Bolly is only miles ahead of kollywood in terms of actress's dressing... :D Maybe in a year or two, sex scenes and nudity will be a normal thing in hindi movies.... IMHO, Bollywood is losing its Indian identity..Wonder why every industry is so obsessed with Hollywood.. :evil:

Nerd
25th June 2008, 08:34 PM
EKMI
1. Bollywood has made the best Shakespeare adaptations, of course they were very Indian.. And are you even aware of those :huh:
2. There were poignant movie's like dor, blue umbrella which are mainly based in a village, if you are looking for culture-preserving ( :sigh2: ) movies
3. Brilliant movies on real life incidents like black Friday
4. Movies in almost all genres, really good ones at that: mystery, thriller, fantasy, sport, history, children

Of course I am not an avid bolly film watcher, other hubbers can give more examples.. Bolly does not start and end with OSO...

crajkumar_be
25th June 2008, 08:47 PM
EKMI
1. Bollywood has made the best Shakespeare adaptations, of course they were very Indian.. And are you even aware of those :huh:
2. There were poignant movie's like dor, blue umbrella which are mainly based in a village, if you are looking for culture-preserving ( :sigh2: ) movies
3. Brilliant movies on real life incidents like black Friday
4. Movies in almost all genres, really good ones at that: mystery, thriller, fantasy, sport, history, children

Of course I am not an avid bolly film watcher, other hubbers can give more examples.. Bolly does not start and end with OSO...
:exactly:

And the "kollywood is technically superior" is a thing of 1947.. endha kaalathula irukkeenga? We have an edge only in music and adhulayum the gap is narrowing down.

inga kora solra sagodharargal ellam Bollywood la verum scene padatha mattum paathuttu ippadi solraanga nu nenaikkaren :razz:
In fact, adhulayum avinga dhaan superior! :oops:

Their canvas is simply too wide for us to stand any chance in comparison.

ajithfederer
25th June 2008, 08:47 PM
Ofcourse !!

EKMI
1. Bollywood has made the best Shakespeare adaptations, of course they were very Indian.. And are you even aware of those :huh:
2. There were poignant movie's like dor, blue umbrella which are mainly based in a village, if you are looking for culture-preserving ( :sigh2: ) movies
3. Brilliant movies on real life incidents like black Friday
4. Movies in almost all genres, really good ones at that: mystery, thriller, fantasy, sport, history, children

Of course I am not an avid bolly film watcher, other hubbers can give more examples.. Bolly does not start and end with OSO...

Nerd
25th June 2008, 08:59 PM
In the BGM area, even Rahman is comparitively ordinary in thamizh, but he is superb in Hindi.. Only YSR is even worth mentioning apart from ARR in thamizh.. In Hindi, SEL, VB ellAm pinni pedal edukkuRAinga.. I was watching mithya the other day and was completely bowled over by the western classical score (not sure if its copied) by an amateur composer called saagar desai :thumbsup:

ajithfederer
25th June 2008, 09:04 PM
And just talk about Hindi movie market. They have started to cover all the major movie markets across the globe :shock:

sriranga
25th June 2008, 09:07 PM
IMO, though most of the Bollywood films ape Hollywood, the quality of the product is way better than Kollywood.

Most of the Kollywood films can and should be compared to Bhojpuri films (sathiyamaa ithu enna ezhvunnu theriyathu). :oops:

clnarain
26th June 2008, 01:59 AM
I think the only way in which Bollywood is superior than the South Indian films is in terms of the reach and that's just because of the language and amount of North Indian population settled down in other countries. Almost every North Indian (Marathi, Gujarathi, Bengali, etc) will watch and understand Hindi movies, but this is not the case with South Indians.

Every south indian state has it's own movie culture. Some people are commenting about script and execution in Hindi films. I can bet that every Hindi film is inspired (or bluntly copied) from a hollywood film/international films. Watch the scenes closely and you'll definitely find that scene in any of the international films. I can bet on that. Music is utter useless in these films. Even the biggest hits like Dhoom have been blatantly copied ones, which was only revealed later (source: www.itwofs.com). If you probe more you can find that even BGM's were copied ones. They've completely lost the credibility. Now, only the hype is making them to survive. Sheer media hype can create real waves in people's mind. Remember the reachability of Sivaji? Do you guys think that this film was the talk of the town just because it was superior in quality? No way. It's just the mere hype that matters. What was the Dasavatharam? Why didn't it create the ripples that Sivaji created across the country? It's just because Dasa was not hyped/promoted to the extent of Sivaji.

Remember Paruthiveeran? How many hindi films that came that year matched the quality of this film? But still it was not noticed at all in India, because it was a local film with a complete Indian look. In fact this film won awards in Berlin Film Festival. How many news channels published this information? The film "Ram" won the best picture award in Cannes Film Festival. How many Indians know about it? People like, Bollywood films because they are completely non-indian. Now a days it's a fashion to go crazy behind things that are non-indian.

South Indian films need aggressive marketing strategies. If marketed properly they can easily surpass the so called "Bollywood". Sivaji and Dasa proved that language is not a barrier for a Tamil film. Actually through Sivaji many people outside India came to know that there is a larger Film Industry down the south, that produces more films than Bollywood, not only in terms of quantity but also in terms of quality.

I do not have any grudge or grievance against any industry. All I want is good work must be recognized no matter wherever in the country it came from.

Movie Cop
26th June 2008, 02:12 AM
bollywood is miles ahead of kollywood in terms of script/execution/technical excellence etc 8-) but except SRK nobody cares for IIFA :lol:

No way! In terms of technical excellence, Kollywood is miles ahead...And for script, i would say both bolly and kolly are in the same line...Bolly is only miles ahead of kollywood in terms of actress's dressing... :D Maybe in a year or two, sex scenes and nudity will be a normal thing in hindi movies.... IMHO, Bollywood is losing its Indian identity..Wonder why every industry is so obsessed with Hollywood.. :evil:
Mahen - You are joking right? :lol:

clnarain
26th June 2008, 02:20 AM
bollywood is miles ahead of kollywood in terms of script/execution/technical excellence etc 8-) but except SRK nobody cares for IIFA :lol:

First try to understand what a script is and then let's compare Bollywood and Kollywood.

Hollywood is far superior than Kollywood in terms of script, screenplay, execution etc. Agreed. Bollywood copies all these from Hollywood blatantly.

In that case, your hypothesis that Bollywood is superior in script/screenplay than Kollywood may be true. :lol:

Movie Cop
26th June 2008, 02:36 AM
Even if Bolly copies Holly in the script - their execution is not as amateruish as Kolly of late... There were several times where Kolly was on par with Bolly (especially during the late 70's through mid-90's where Bolly knew only "boy meets girl" kind of films).

But over the past few years Bolly has sure come out of the "boy meets girl" curse and started making some meaningful, multi dimensional movies with focus more on the script than the stars.

When would Kolly come out of it's "ego massaging" hero worship with cheap intro song giving lots of free advice, kuthu dance, punch dialaak, crass needless comedy tracks, crude/cliched villains with pathetic mannerisms/dialaaks? :roll:

Even the rare, non-stupid Kolly movies like Ammuvagiya Naan, Evano Oruvan, Anjathey et al wilt somewhere halfway through in execution :( At this moment, let Kolly grow up first before we even start comparing it with Bolly! 8-)

clnarain
26th June 2008, 03:19 AM
Even if Bolly copies Holly in the script - their execution is not as amateruish as Kolly of late... There were several times where Kolly was on par with Bolly (especially during the late 70's through mid-90's where Bolly knew only "boy meets girl" kind of films).

But over the past few years Bolly has sure come out of the "boy meets girl" curse and started making some meaningful, multi dimensional movies with focus more on the script than the stars.

When would Kolly come out of it's "ego massaging" hero worship with cheap intro song giving lots of free advice, kuthu dance, punch dialaak, crass needless comedy tracks, crude/cliched villains with pathetic mannerisms/dialaaks? :roll:

Even the rare, non-stupid Kolly movies like Ammuvagiya Naan, Evano Oruvan, Anjathey et al wilt somewhere halfway through in execution :( At this moment, let Kolly grow up first before we even start comparing it with Bolly! 8-)

Kollywood films have too many varieties. They produce films both for the mass and the class. You are looking at the mass alone. When you go to see a Rajni movie do you really want to see any logic/script? Of course you don't because that's the way it is. I'm not talking about Masala entertainers. Even Bollywood produces such movies with some pranks like Akshay Kumar. Why don't you talk about Paruthiveeran, Ram, Mozhi, Thavamai Thavamirundhu etc. What's not there in these films that is present in the Bollywood films?

Nerd
26th June 2008, 03:20 AM
And why don't you let movies like doom/OSO pass?? :lol:

Mahen
26th June 2008, 08:37 AM
Even if Bolly copies Holly in the script - their execution is not as amateruish as Kolly of late... There were several times where Kolly was on par with Bolly (especially during the late 70's through mid-90's where Bolly knew only "boy meets girl" kind of films).

But over the past few years Bolly has sure come out of the "boy meets girl" curse and started making some meaningful, multi dimensional movies with focus more on the script than the stars.

When would Kolly come out of it's "ego massaging" hero worship with cheap intro song giving lots of free advice, kuthu dance, punch dialaak, crass needless comedy tracks, crude/cliched villains with pathetic mannerisms/dialaaks? :roll:

Even the rare, non-stupid Kolly movies like Ammuvagiya Naan, Evano Oruvan, Anjathey et al wilt somewhere halfway through in execution :( At this moment, let Kolly grow up first before we even start comparing it with Bolly! 8-)

Yeah true.... dhoom,OSO,race etc were excellent in terms of script and execution :lol:

MADDY
26th June 2008, 08:58 AM
Even if Bolly copies Holly in the script - their execution is not as amateruish as Kolly of late... There were several times where Kolly was on par with Bolly (especially during the late 70's through mid-90's where Bolly knew only "boy meets girl" kind of films).

But over the past few years Bolly has sure come out of the "boy meets girl" curse and started making some meaningful, multi dimensional movies with focus more on the script than the stars.

When would Kolly come out of it's "ego massaging" hero worship with cheap intro song giving lots of free advice, kuthu dance, punch dialaak, crass needless comedy tracks, crude/cliched villains with pathetic mannerisms/dialaaks? :roll:

Even the rare, non-stupid Kolly movies like Ammuvagiya Naan, Evano Oruvan, Anjathey et al wilt somewhere halfway through in execution :( At this moment, let Kolly grow up first before we even start comparing it with Bolly! 8-)

:clap: ....though they copy, their execution is neat......they have come out of cliches big time.........and ofcourse, they lead us in terms of stratergy.........most hindi films go thru QA testing, a market research is done to identify target audience.............do tamil directors even know such things exist..........corporates entry has made a major impact - dunno when it will happen in tamil............

as bala annan said - kollywood superior than bollywood in technical brilliance is a thing of past :( ..........i dont see a movie like omkara or hasaro kwahishe aisi in another 5 yrs in tamil or even a taare zameen par :oops: .........music too, did anyone hear - tare zameen par track and BGM - piccha edakkanum namma pasanga..........

though we have talent - we dont have a)market as wide as them b) corporates to tighten up the process :D

clnarain
26th June 2008, 11:25 AM
.music too, did anyone hear - tare zameen par track and BGM - piccha edakkanum namma pasanga..........


Just check itwofs.com...apparam puriyum yaar pichai edukkarangannu...

Vivasaayi
26th June 2008, 12:47 PM
did anyone hear - tare zameen par track and BGM - piccha edakkanum namma pasanga..........



naansans...

tamil m.a is enough to shut their mouth regarding music!

or should i list yuvans movies to prove that tamil music world is as good as ever!

Roshan
26th June 2008, 01:03 PM
did anyone hear - tare zameen par track and BGM - piccha edakkanum namma pasanga..........



naansans...

tamil m.a is enough to shut their mouth regarding music!

or should i list yuvans movies to prove that tamil music world is as good as ever!

:banghead:

Vivasaayi
26th June 2008, 01:05 PM
did anyone hear - tare zameen par track and BGM - piccha edakkanum namma pasanga..........



naansans...

tamil m.a is enough to shut their mouth regarding music!

or should i list yuvans movies to prove that tamil music world is as good as ever!

:banghead:

vaaat reeson for muttals

clnarain
26th June 2008, 01:12 PM
did anyone hear - tare zameen par track and BGM - piccha edakkanum namma pasanga..........



naansans...

tamil m.a is enough to shut their mouth regarding music!

or should i list yuvans movies to prove that tamil music world is as good as ever!

appadi podu aruvala...idha idha idhathaan naan edhir paarthen.

thilak4life
26th June 2008, 01:12 PM
Tamil MA music is good in its own ways, ditto TZP. Both forms of music are different, and they were composed for different genres and themes. So, it's stupid to claim either superior over the other.

clnarain
26th June 2008, 01:13 PM
did anyone hear - tare zameen par track and BGM - piccha edakkanum namma pasanga..........



naansans...

tamil m.a is enough to shut their mouth regarding music!

or should i list yuvans movies to prove that tamil music world is as good as ever!

:banghead:

vaaat reeson for muttals

let him do that...we can't change these people....they would have never heard any tamil song but still they would comment about it. ungala ellam intha jenmathula thirutha mudiyathu.

Vivasaayi
26th June 2008, 01:15 PM
Tamil MA music is good in its own ways, ditto TZP. Both forms of music are different, and they were composed for different genres and themes. So, it's stupid to claim either superior over the other.

i dint compare...

i said its not in the situation of pichai eduthufying and all

clnarain
26th June 2008, 01:21 PM
Tamil MA music is good in its own ways, ditto TZP. Both forms of music are different, and they were composed for different genres and themes. So, it's stupid to claim either superior over the other.

i dint compare...

i said its not in the situation of pichai eduthufying and all

Yup you hit the nail. We are not criticizing, but at the same time we cannot tolerate any kind of abuse.

crajkumar_be
26th June 2008, 01:51 PM
And why don't you let movies like doom/OSO pass?? :lol:
adhaane! :lol:

And appadiye paathalum OSO was not bad IMO 8-)

Roshan
26th June 2008, 02:06 PM
And why don't you let movies like doom/OSO pass?? :lol:
adhaane! :lol:

And appadiye paathalum OSO was not bad IMO 8-)

IMO too 8-)

joe
26th June 2008, 03:05 PM
what is OSO ? :roll: My bad Hindi movies following :oops:

Btw ,My last hindi movie TZP :thumbsup:

Roshan
26th June 2008, 03:36 PM
what is OSO ? :roll: My bad Hindi movies following :oops:

Btw ,My last hindi movie TZP :thumbsup:

Om Shanthi Om :)

joe
26th June 2008, 03:37 PM
what is OSO ? :roll: My bad Hindi movies following :oops:

Btw ,My last hindi movie TZP :thumbsup:

Om Shanthi Om :)

Thanks! I have the VCD ,but yet to watch,will do this weekend :)

Thirumaran
26th June 2008, 03:44 PM
what is OSO ? :roll: My bad Hindi movies following :oops:

Btw ,My last hindi movie TZP :thumbsup:

Om Shanthi Om :)

Thanks! I have the VCD ,but yet to watch,will do this weekend :)

All the best :thumbsup:

joe
26th June 2008, 03:47 PM
what is OSO ? :roll: My bad Hindi movies following :oops:

Btw ,My last hindi movie TZP :thumbsup:

Om Shanthi Om :)

Thanks! I have the VCD ,but yet to watch,will do this weekend :)

All the best :thumbsup:

இதுல எதுவும் உள்குத்து இருக்கா? :roll:

Thirumaran
26th June 2008, 03:49 PM
இதுல எதுவும் உள்குத்து இருக்கா? :roll:

dont k know. Padatha paarthuttu neengalae mudivu pannikoanga.
Paarthathukku appuram ul kuththu nnu ninaicha athaan. Illainaa illai :lol2:

joe
26th June 2008, 03:52 PM
இதுல எதுவும் உள்குத்து இருக்கா? :roll:

dont k know. Padatha paarthuttu neengalae mudivu pannikoanga.
Paarthathukku appuram ul kuththu nnu ninaicha athaan. Illainaa illai :lol2:

இல்ல.. எதோ போருக்கு அனுப்புற மாதிரி வாழ்த்து சொன்னீங்களே ..அதான் மைல்டா டவுட்டு வந்திச்சு :D

selvakumar
26th June 2008, 03:54 PM
இல்ல.. எதோ போருக்கு அனுப்புற மாதிரி வாழ்த்து சொன்னீங்களே ..அதான் மைல்டா டவுட்டு வந்திச்சு :D

Joe,
neenga 'Chak De' paarunga :thumbsup: super padam. SRK kooda nadichirukkaar :D OSO naan paarkala.. interestum illai.. :) but OK filmnnu kelvi pattaen

Roshan
26th June 2008, 03:59 PM
இல்ல.. எதோ போருக்கு அனுப்புற மாதிரி வாழ்த்து சொன்னீங்களே ..அதான் மைல்டா டவுட்டு வந்திச்சு :D

Joe,
neenga 'Chak De' paarunga :thumbsup: super padam. SRK kooda nadichirukkaar :D OSO naan paarkala.. interestum illai.. :) but OK filmnnu kelvi pattaen

idhai naan vanmaiyAga kaNdikkiREn :evil: :evil:

Thirumaran
26th June 2008, 04:12 PM
இல்ல.. எதோ போருக்கு அனுப்புற மாதிரி வாழ்த்து சொன்னீங்களே ..அதான் மைல்டா டவுட்டு வந்திச்சு :D

Joe,
neenga 'Chak De' paarunga :thumbsup: super padam. SRK kooda nadichirukkaar :D OSO naan paarkala.. interestum illai.. :) but OK filmnnu kelvi pattaen

idhai naan vanmaiyAga kaNdikkiREn :evil: :evil:


Athaanae :twisted:


Maerkae Sooriyan Uthichaalum uthikalaam. But SRK aavathu nadikirathaavathu. hayyo hayyo :rotfl:

MADDY
26th June 2008, 04:55 PM
.music too, did anyone hear - tare zameen par track and BGM - piccha edakkanum namma pasanga..........


Just check itwofs.com...apparam puriyum yaar pichai edukkarangannu...

can u give me specific link for TZP ??? i couldnt find any.......

ok, i mite have gone overboard with "picchai" comment, but i think they are definitely ahead of us in music front too......

nobody answers y there are no corporates in tamil movies yet??? any krishnasamy/ramasamy has a problem in it??? :roll:

swatflies02
26th June 2008, 05:27 PM
I feel very strongly about this issue. It's true that being an INDIAN awards ceremony, it should incorporate movies from languages other than hindi too. I too find it really aggravating that one film can win so many awards in 1 go (say Chak De), when there are plenty other films of other languages that are not even recognised. It's really disturbing that the Hindi film industry is totally hogging the limelight in the international arena and leaving out perfectly good movies of other regional languages in the shadows. I know, living in Australia myself, the extent to which this is occurring. Hindi movies are shown in cinemas here on a regular basis as opposed to a single showing of a Tamil or Telugu movie (only Kamal or Rajini movies are shown more than once, but that too not as often as even mediocre Hindi movies). As far as I know, I don't think they even show Malayalam movies here. As people have said, Hindi being the national language and all means it can be marketed to a wider audience (they also provide Eng subs unlike Tamil or Telugu). I don't think superiority of talent, script,music technical excellence etc is the reason for hindi dominance since we can name movies to counteract that statement.

There is no benchmark or standardised manner to judge the industries since each and every movie is different.The only way one can compare(to an extent) is when remakes of movies are made (eg take Chandramuki and the Kannada movie Apthamitra, which are remakes of the malayalam movie Manichithrathazhu, which were in turn remade into the hindi movie Bhool Bulaiyaa). So in my opinion, the only reason why hindi movies dominate is because of better marketing(eg eng subs)and a wider audience. Tamil ppl may learn Hindi but do Hindi ppl learn Tamil? Such is reflected in movies. It is unfortunate that this is the case, it's almost discrimination.As someone put it, all good movies should be duly recognised regardless of what language they speak. So IIFA should incorporate other language movies or change its nme to IHFA(international hindi film awards). At least then they're not trying to fool ppl into thinking that Hindi films are the only ones India has to offer.

swatflies02
26th June 2008, 05:36 PM
And btw, I think ppl should stop stereotyping industries already. Tamil movies are all not masala, kuthu, hero worshipping or boy meets gril storylines. And hindi isn't all glitz, glamour and skin show either. Usually its people who don't have the patience to watch the movies that they chide abt who leave such comments. Widen ur perspective ppl-think outside the square!

selvakumar
26th June 2008, 05:36 PM
idhai naan vanmaiyAga kaNdikkiREn :evil: :evil:
Forgot you :yessir:

directhit
26th June 2008, 06:09 PM
EKMI
1. Bollywood has made the best Shakespeare adaptations, of course they were very Indian.. And are you even aware of those :huh:
2. There were poignant movie's like dor, blue umbrella which are mainly based in a village, if you are looking for culture-preserving ( :sigh2: ) movies
3. Brilliant movies on real life incidents like black Friday
4. Movies in almost all genres, really good ones at that: mystery, thriller, fantasy, sport, history, children

Of course I am not an avid bolly film watcher, other hubbers can give more examples.. Bolly does not start and end with OSO... Nerd, technical excellence is ofcourse the best in Bollywood coz of the budget they can afford to coz of the wide reach - only starting Sivaji, Tamil films have the high budget phenomenon and the confidence that they can get back the amount with profit, tamil films wud change from now ofcourse

Dor is a remake (guess unofficial) of a Malayalam film / Omkara was taken long back in Malayalam and I guess won a national award too
Bollywood is ofcourse coming with up wonderful movies without getting itself stereotyped into a genre - but there are really good movies in other languages too and IIFA does not even mention them and have branded outside india as though there are only Hindi movies in the whole of India

IMO movies like Karutha Pakshigal/Kaazhcha/Thanmatra/Ore Kadal (Malayalam) and Mozhi/Veyyil sure deserves a place amongst the Dor/Omkara/Blue Umbrella etc

dinesh13284
26th June 2008, 06:54 PM
Ada ethu enna panchayathu? nama puthusa TRIIFA (The Real Indian Internation Film Awards) nu oru function nadathita pochu..
I thuku poi chinna pulla thanama sanda potukutu.. :evil:

Nerd
26th June 2008, 07:09 PM
anoop I am sorry, I don't know anything about bong/mallu film industries and I wasn't trying to say that bolly is the best. Post -2000, bolly is miles ahead of kolly was my point, there are many examples to prove this.. Good movies in tamil are few and far between!

And mahen, can we keep movies like race etc.. out of this?? Then I might have to talk about pazhani etc.. Even I liked OSO, but the mind it thingi was irritating, almost all the south Indian news are prefixed mind-it by the media post OSO:banghead:

ajithfederer
26th June 2008, 07:12 PM
:rotfl:



இல்ல.. எதோ போருக்கு அனுப்புற மாதிரி வாழ்த்து சொன்னீங்களே ..அதான் மைல்டா டவுட்டு வந்திச்சு :D

Joe,
neenga 'Chak De' paarunga :thumbsup: super padam. SRK kooda nadichirukkaar :D OSO naan paarkala.. interestum illai.. :) but OK filmnnu kelvi pattaen

idhai naan vanmaiyAga kaNdikkiREn :evil: :evil:

dinesh2002
26th June 2008, 07:12 PM
I feel very strongly about this issue. It's true that being an INDIAN awards ceremony, it should incorporate movies from languages other than hindi too. I too find it really aggravating that one film can win so many awards in 1 go (say Chak De), when there are plenty other films of other languages that are not even recognised. It's really disturbing that the Hindi film industry is totally hogging the limelight in the international arena and leaving out perfectly good movies of other regional languages in the shadows. I know, living in Australia myself, the extent to which this is occurring. Hindi movies are shown in cinemas here on a regular basis as opposed to a single showing of a Tamil or Telugu movie (only Kamal or Rajini movies are shown more than once, but that too not as often as even mediocre Hindi movies). As far as I know, I don't think they even show Malayalam movies here. As people have said, Hindi being the national language and all means it can be marketed to a wider audience (they also provide Eng subs unlike Tamil or Telugu). I don't think superiority of talent, script,music technical excellence etc is the reason for hindi dominance since we can name movies to counteract that statement.

There is no benchmark or standardised manner to judge the industries since each and every movie is different.The only way one can compare(to an extent) is when remakes of movies are made (eg take Chandramuki and the Kannada movie Apthamitra, which are remakes of the malayalam movie Manichithrathazhu, which were in turn remade into the hindi movie Bhool Bulaiyaa). So in my opinion, the only reason why hindi movies dominate is because of better marketing(eg eng subs)and a wider audience. Tamil ppl may learn Hindi but do Hindi ppl learn Tamil? Such is reflected in movies. It is unfortunate that this is the case, it's almost discrimination.As someone put it, all good movies should be duly recognised regardless of what language they speak. So IIFA should incorporate other language movies or change its nme to IHFA(international hindi film awards). At least then they're not trying to fool ppl into thinking that Hindi films are the only ones India has to offer.

:exactly: :yes: :ty:

littlemaster1982
26th June 2008, 07:34 PM
The film "Ram" won the best picture award in Cannes Film Festival. How many Indians know about it?

Isn't it Cyprus film festival? The irony is even Tamil media didn't care much about 'Ram' or even 'Paruthiveeran' winning awards in film festivals.

directhit
26th June 2008, 07:43 PM
anoop I am sorry, I don't know anything about bong/mallu film industries and I wasn't trying to say that bolly is the best. Post -2000, bolly is miles ahead of kolly was my point, there are many examples to prove this.. Good movies in tamil are few and far between! true :oops: :oops:

directhit
26th June 2008, 07:46 PM
other film industry actors if called for IIFA function shud either boycott it or if have the guts shud go and blast em on stage like Mammootty 8-) 8-)

inga irukkura philippinos, indian actor naa amitabh bachan/shahrukh khan perellam solraanga :twisted: :twisted:

clnarain
26th June 2008, 08:00 PM
inga irukkura philippinos, indian actor naa amitabh bachan/shahrukh khan perellam solraanga :twisted: :twisted:

Hmm...Antha alavukku avangala keduthu vechirukkom... :lol: :lol: :lol: