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Kalyasi
12th March 2010, 02:14 PM
Kals - note that Prickykkum oru idam koduthirukkAen

Naa note pannave illaye...

Ungala Hub Lenthu 2 Vaaram Thalli Vekkaren!!!

19thmay
12th March 2010, 02:14 PM
MSD can be compared with Brendon McCullum.


Too much P_R.

Plum
12th March 2010, 02:16 PM
mm enga vara vendiya time.... ungalukku dhaan Maddy Kaivisham kuduthuttaaru pola... inime CSK match appo B(K) unarchivasapattu MS a thittaradhoda sari :P

apdilAm edhir pArka kudadhu. [i]thitta vendiya nerathula correct-A thittiduvEn [i]

Kalyasi
12th March 2010, 02:16 PM
MSD can be compared with Brendon McCullum.


Too much P_R.

3 Much....

Brendon Mccullum... who he?

Plum
12th March 2010, 02:17 PM
Flau(m)
Eppadi Lara missing from your 11?
In ODIs, enakku apdi oNNum perusA gnabagam illai Laravoda saagansagaL. Yeah, in terms of aesthetics and wholesome entertainment, marupEchillai, whatever be the format. But aesthetics pArthA Dhoniya seleet paNNuvOmA? ;-)

P_R
12th March 2010, 02:17 PM
Flau(m)
Eppadi Lara missing from your 11?

Kekanum-nu nenachen is Lara a great ODI player?

Namma kitta lentil steam aagalainnu kEkkureenga. Bakistan, Australia, SAfrica kitte ellAm kEttu paarunga kadhai kadhaiyA solvAinga

Bala (Karthik)
12th March 2010, 02:19 PM
inime CSK match appo B(K) unarchivasapattu MS a thittaradhoda sari :P
Aauuuuu!
Balapperiyava kitta kottu vaangi jeikkara perumai MSD-ku enbadha marakka koodadhu :lol2: :yessir:

P_R
12th March 2010, 02:19 PM
MSD can be compared with Brendon McCullum.


Too much P_R.

In keeping Mc Cullum >>> MSD
In batting MSD > McCullum

add, subtract and see, all accounts will come correct

littlemaster1982
12th March 2010, 02:20 PM
Welcome back Anoop :D

Appadiye idhaiyum (http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=14047) konjam paarunga :) saaary - image (http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9046/unbrandedbrianlarasigne.jpg) ayum thread title ayum maathunga :P varen

:grrr:

Kalyasi
12th March 2010, 02:20 PM
Dhoni 43 test la 137 dismissals
Sanguhakaaran 88 test la 177 dismissals...

Naanga thaan toppu

Plum
12th March 2010, 02:23 PM
Ok, I chose the team mainly for effectiveness across conditions. Oz-la nadathinA Praanding irukkAr, Sub-continentla yuvarasan. Lara can cover both but enakku therinju ODIsla single dayla explosive-A engeyum edhuvum paNnadhilla.

Aesthetics-nu vandhA, will have to change the team
SRT
MEW
BCL
ADS
IUH
RSD/VVS
ACG
Bowler 1
Bowler 2
Bowler 3
Bowler 4

19thmay
12th March 2010, 02:23 PM
MSD can be compared with Brendon McCullum.


Too much P_R.

In keeping Mc Cullum >>> MSD
In batting MSD > McCullum

add, subtract and see, all accounts will come correct

Of late I read an article in another cricket forum that Mongia's bye leakage rate is 9 runs per match. Dhoni is somewhere between 4 to5. What say P_R?

Kalyasi
12th March 2010, 02:23 PM
MSD can be compared with Brendon McCullum.


Too much P_R.

In keeping Mc Cullum >>> MSD
In batting MSD > McCullum

add, subtract and see, all accounts will come correct

Totally Rejetted...

Plum
12th March 2010, 02:24 PM
Dhoni 43 test la 137 dismissals
Sanguhakaaran 88 test la 177 dismissals...

Naanga thaan toppu
sangan played as non-keeper in a few tests

Kalyasi
12th March 2010, 02:25 PM
Ok, I chose the team mainly for effectiveness across conditions. Oz-la nadathinA Praanding irukkAr, Sub-continentla yuvarasan. Lara can cover both but enakku therinju ODIsla single dayla explosive-A engeyum edhuvum paNnadhilla.

Aesthetics-nu vandhA, will have to change the team
SRT
MEW
BCL
ADS
IUH
RSD/VVS
ACG
Bowler 1
Bowler 2
Bowler 3
Bowler 4

Ivangala ellam "Aesthetics" endra category la othukka mudiyathu...

Kalyasi
12th March 2010, 02:28 PM
Dhoni 43 test la 137 dismissals
Sanguhakaaran 88 test la 177 dismissals...

Naanga thaan toppu
sangan played as non-keeper in a few tests

Prasanna Jayawardene velayadunathu oru 30 test thaan... athula avanum neraya test la non-keeper a velayadi irukaan

P_R
12th March 2010, 02:29 PM
Dhoni 43 test la 137 dismissals
Sanguhakaaran 88 test la 177 dismissals...

Naanga thaan toppu

Murali ellAm bowled/lbw dhaan.

anyway the problem is beyond statistics. (if you look up de Silva's stats todday, he'd be less impressive than Yuvaraj or Gambhir)

Aei
Vadivelu: மனுசன்னா அல்சர் வேணும்
Sarath: அது கல்ச்சர்

Sangakkara's fluid, graceful hoists to third man boundary, down-on-knee cover drive எல்லாம் MSD TV-la பாத்துக்கலாம். அவ்வளவு தான்.

Plum
12th March 2010, 02:29 PM
Keeperku irukkara sarakkula ACG dhAn thErudhu. vEra yAru irukkA? Definitely better aesthetic appeal dhAn Dhoni. And there are no other competitors AFAICS.

IUH - subjective, I love watching him. Runing between the wicketsla kooda effectivenessai vida aestheticsku importance kuduppAr. Wholesome entertainment-nu vandhA adhicukka AL illai. His apprearance misleads people...

Bala (Karthik)
12th March 2010, 02:29 PM
:shock: Kalyan, enna solreenga?
ADS ellam peer gold class ticket (stance dhaan kevalam, V shape la leg spread airukkum, not very different from Vivek's X description of Perazhagan Suriya)

Inzamaama, Gilli - ivangalukkum enna korachal?

P_R
12th March 2010, 02:31 PM
Of late I read an article in another cricket forum that Mongia's bye leakage rate is 9 runs per match. Dhoni is somewhere between 4 to5. What say P_R?
Eh !! Unseletted. yaar sonnadhu ?
AFAIR Mongia kept like an angel to Kumble, who is arguably the most difficult bowler to keep up close. One miss and you'd concede byes. Dhoni used to concede plenty of byes to him - but in all fairness so would have most other keepers - except Mongia.

P_R
12th March 2010, 02:32 PM
Ok, I chose the team mainly for effectiveness across conditions. Oz-la nadathinA Praanding irukkAr, Sub-continentla yuvarasan. Lara can cover both but enakku therinju ODIsla single dayla explosive-A engeyum edhuvum paNnadhilla.

Aesthetics-nu vandhA, will have to change the team
SRT
MEW
BCL
ADS
IUH
RSD/VVS
ACG
Bowler 1
Bowler 2
Bowler 3
Bowler 4

Ivangala ellam "Aesthetics" endra category la othukka mudiyathu...

ADS aesthetics-la oththukka mudiyAdhA !!!
Oru sila late cut, hook ellAm Sachin kooda avvaLo fluent-A adikka mudiyAdhu.

Kalyasi
12th March 2010, 02:32 PM
Dhoni 43 test la 137 dismissals
Sanguhakaaran 88 test la 177 dismissals...

Naanga thaan toppu

Murali ellAm bowled/lbw dhaan.

anyway the problem is beyond statistics. (if you look up de Silva's stats todday, he'd be less impressive than Yuvaraj or Gambhir)

Aei
Vadivelu: மனுசன்னா அல்சர் வேணும்
Sarath: அது கல்ச்சர்

Sangakkara's fluid, graceful hoists to third man boundary, down-on-knee cover drive எல்லாம் MSD TV-la பாத்துக்கலாம். அவ்வளவு தான்.

We are talking about being effective not abt being graceful...

Apdi ellam paatha Vikram Rathore oda Cover Drive kooda thaan kannukku kulirchiya irukkum....

Hayden oda cover drive laam ennikaavathu graceful a irunthu irukka

Plum
12th March 2010, 02:33 PM
Mongia is a better keeper*

*except when "kaasu vaangittu kida vettum" bodhu!

Kalyasi
12th March 2010, 02:35 PM
:shock: Kalyan, enna solreenga?
ADS ellam peer gold class ticket (stance dhaan kevalam, V shape la leg spread airukkum, not very different from Vivek's X description of Perazhagan Suriya)

Inzamaama, Gilli - ivangalukkum enna korachal?

Appo avangaloda footwork impressive a irukum nu sollareengala... IMHO Gilly ku ellam footwork irunthu naa paathathe illa... he is an upgraded version of Sehwag avvalothaaan...

P_R
12th March 2010, 02:36 PM
We are talking about being effective not abt being graceful... And to me MSD is representative of the change in the game where grace has been relegated.

Anyway for effectiveness I mentioned why those stats are misleading. % wickets captured by Murali and % of them done w/o Wk's help skew the stats for SL. If we compare then Sangakkara will appear to be a lesser keeper than Kamran Akmal !


Hayden oda cover drive laam ennikaavathu graceful a irunthu irukka adhunaala dhaan en team-la avarai edukkalai. btw apparently he is gotten himself a short blade, long handle sledgehammer for the upcoming IPL. ellArum nallaa irunga.

Bala (Karthik)
12th March 2010, 02:37 PM
Apdi ellam paatha Vikram Rathore oda Cover Drive kooda thaan kannukku kulirchiya irukkum....

Naan paartha varaikkum avar cover drive attempt panni pandhu graceful a slip fielder kaila thanjam pugundhirukku!



Hayden oda cover drive laam ennikaavathu graceful a irunthu irukka
PErhaps not elegant but always majestic. And never ugly

Bala (Karthik)
12th March 2010, 02:39 PM
Appo avangaloda footwork impressive a irukum nu sollareengala... IMHO Gilly ku ellam footwork irunthu naa paathathe illa... he is an upgraded version of Sehwag avvalothaaan...
I shouldn't have included Gilli in the company of ADS and IUH

19thmay
12th March 2010, 02:39 PM
Of late I read an article in another cricket forum that Mongia's bye leakage rate is 9 runs per match. Dhoni is somewhere between 4 to5. What say P_R?
Eh !! Unseletted. yaar sonnadhu ?
AFAIR Mongia kept like an angel to Kumble, who is arguably the most difficult bowler to keep up close. One miss and you'd concede byes. Dhoni used to concede plenty of byes to him - but in all fairness so would have most other keepers - except Mongia.

Proof thEdi pOnen, adhukullara threads ellam delete pannitaanga.

P_R
12th March 2010, 02:44 PM
Proof thEdi pOnen, adhukullara threads ellam delete pannitaanga.

Kumble ball-ku stembing paNRadhellAm out-of-question for most keepers. Mongia was terrific. IIRC even once effected a stumping off T.Kumaran :oops:

Kalyasi
12th March 2010, 02:45 PM
Ok, I chose the team mainly for effectiveness across conditions. Oz-la nadathinA Praanding irukkAr, Sub-continentla yuvarasan. Lara can cover both but enakku therinju ODIsla single dayla explosive-A engeyum edhuvum paNnadhilla.

Aesthetics-nu vandhA, will have to change the team
SRT
MEW
BCL
ADS
IUH
RSD/VVS
ACG
Bowler 1
Bowler 2
Bowler 3
Bowler 4

Ivangala ellam "Aesthetics" endra category la othukka mudiyathu...

ADS aesthetics-la oththukka mudiyAdhA !!!
Oru sila late cut, hook ellAm Sachin kooda avvaLo fluent-A adikka mudiyAdhu.

being fluent is different from being aesthetic...

Dhoni kooda thaan fluent a idli shot aaduvaar, Sachin aala mudiyathu, appo Dhoni ya sethupeengala?

When we talk abt text book stuff, being graceful, being perfect... ADS,IUH ku kandippa edam illa...Gilly sollave vendaam...

Bala (Karthik)
12th March 2010, 02:49 PM
When we talk abt text book stuff, being graceful, being perfect... ADS,IUH ku kandippa edam illa...Gilly sollave vendaam...
VKR Annan in Arangetra Velai vetti avizhum scene (biting finger): "ayyayyo, marupadiyum thappu thappa pesare" :razz:

Kalyasi
12th March 2010, 02:53 PM
Apdi ellam paatha Vikram Rathore oda Cover Drive kooda thaan kannukku kulirchiya irukkum....

Naan paartha varaikkum avar cover drive attempt panni pandhu graceful a slip fielder kaila thanjam pugundhirukku!

Illainga he was a very orthodox player.. Cover drive ellam nanna irukum... If you get to see the ilites of a match b/w Ind and Pak in Sharjah where Sidhu and Sachin score centuries... Athula Sachin oda avar thaan open pannuvaar single digit score ku out aayiruvaar... antha series la kooda some of his cover drives were very elegant...

satissh_r
12th March 2010, 02:59 PM
Apdi ellam paatha Vikram Rathore oda Cover Drive kooda thaan kannukku kulirchiya irukkum....

Naan paartha varaikkum avar cover drive attempt panni pandhu graceful a slip fielder kaila thanjam pugundhirukku!

Illainga he was a very orthodox player.. Cover drive ellam nanna irukum... If you get to see the ilites of a match b/w Ind and Pak in Sharjah where Sidhu and Sachin score centuries... Athula Sachin oda avar thaan open pannuvaar single digit score ku out aayiruvaar... antha series la kooda some of his cover drives were very elegant...

En lifelaya ore tharavai LBWku umpire out kodukkurathuku munnala nadanthavaru avaru oruthar than :lol:

P_R
12th March 2010, 03:01 PM
being fluent is different from being aesthetic...

Dhoni kooda thaan fluent a idli shot aaduvaar, Sachin aala mudiyathu, appo Dhoni ya sethupeengala?

When we talk abt text book stuff, being graceful, being perfect... ADS,IUH ku kandippa edam illa...Gilly sollave vendaam...

WC 96 semi.
He reached his 50 with 10 boundaries. Not a single slog. All proper cricketing strokes. Square drive, late cut ellAm thottu kumbura maadhiri irukkum. One ball from Srinath he will time his jump to get on top of it and play a grounded on-drive. If that is not aesthetic I don't know what is.

And btw he does slog too. And really well. But if that is what he is remembered by, it is really unfortunate.

satissh_r
12th March 2010, 03:04 PM
W Akram rates ADS's innings for Kent in the finals of english limited overs competition as the best played against him.

Plum
12th March 2010, 03:04 PM
En lifelaya ore tharavai LBWku umpire out kodukkurathuku munnala nadanthavaru avaru oruthar than
In the WC 2007 match against SL, MSD walked when lbw to Murali. idhellAm veLambara padutharadhillai - Gilly-lAm Dog-ku kakkA pOga vekka morning walk pOnAlE, Malcolm Conn "Gilly, the walker"-nu article ezhudhuvAn!

19thmay
12th March 2010, 03:05 PM
En lifelaya ore tharavai LBWku umpire out kodukkurathuku munnala nadanthavaru avaru oruthar than
In the WC 2007 match against SL, MSD walked when lbw to Murali. idhellAm veLambara padutharadhillai - Gilly-lAm Dog-ku kakkA pOga vekka morning walk pOnAlE, Malcolm Conn "Gilly, the walker"-nu article ezhudhuvAn!

Even Virat Kohli did that last year.

satissh_r
12th March 2010, 03:06 PM
Gilly-lAm Dog-ku kakkA pOga vekka morning walk pOnAlE, Malcolm Conn "Gilly, the walker"-nu article ezhudhuvAn!
:lol:

Plum
12th March 2010, 03:06 PM
being fluent is different from being aesthetic...

Dhoni kooda thaan fluent a idli shot aaduvaar, Sachin aala mudiyathu, appo Dhoni ya sethupeengala?

When we talk abt text book stuff, being graceful, being perfect... ADS,IUH ku kandippa edam illa...Gilly sollave vendaam...

WC 96 semi.
He reached his 50 with 10 boundaries. Not a single slog. All proper cricketing strokes. Square drive, late cut ellAm thottu kumbura maadhiri irukkum. One ball from Srinath he will time his jump to get on top of it and play a grounded on-drive. If that is not aesthetic I don't know what is.

And btw he does slog too. And really well. But if that is what he is remembered by, it is really unfortunate.

Exactly, The equation is
Aesthetics != Only(Grace AND/OR Elegance).

Kalyasi
12th March 2010, 03:12 PM
being fluent is different from being aesthetic...

Dhoni kooda thaan fluent a idli shot aaduvaar, Sachin aala mudiyathu, appo Dhoni ya sethupeengala?

When we talk abt text book stuff, being graceful, being perfect... ADS,IUH ku kandippa edam illa...Gilly sollave vendaam...

WC 96 semi.
He reached his 50 with 10 boundaries. Not a single slog. All proper cricketing strokes. Square drive, late cut ellAm thottu kumbura maadhiri irukkum. One ball from Srinath he will time his jump to get on top of it and play a grounded on-drive. If that is not aesthetic I don't know what is.

And btw he does slog too. And really well. But if that is what he is remembered by, it is really unfortunate.

Exactly, The equation is
Aesthetics != Only(Grace AND/OR Elegance).

Appo artistic a irukka vendaama? when it refers to the art... it refers to text book stuff... so itha ozhunga define pannunga..

I never said that their strokes look ugly...
Textbook stuff a nokki e en vivatham...

Kalyasi
12th March 2010, 03:16 PM
Dhoni also has not always been a ugly stroke maker.. appo appo avarum oru elegant aaana straight drive, elegant aana cover drive, very elegant sqare cuts ellam velayadi irukaar... athellam en note pannave maatengarel yuvar aanar?

Plum
12th March 2010, 03:18 PM
kalyasi, butcheringla kUda aesthetic butchering(Viru) apdinnu nAn solvEn - idhukku Frabhu Raum, BalavE oputhukka mAttAnga. Still, it is not just about the stlye of play - how it is executed-num nenaikkarEn -idhukku mEla explain paNNa theriyalai.

P_R
12th March 2010, 03:22 PM
Dhoni also has not always been a ugly stroke maker.. appo appo avarum oru elegant aaana straight drive, elegant aana cover drive, very elegant sqare cuts ellam velayadi irukaar... athellam en note pannave maatengarel yuvar aanar? Which means he is capable good cricketing shots but mostly chooses not to play them :P

Bala (Karthik)
12th March 2010, 03:23 PM
Dhoni also has not always been a ugly stroke maker.. appo appo avarum oru elegant aaana straight drive, elegant aana cover drive, very elegant sqare cuts ellam velayadi irukaar...
[Not related to this selection]
Eppo idhellam adichaaru? Enna venaalum sollunga, elegant and Dhoni? Nevaire!

Kalyasi
12th March 2010, 03:24 PM
enakkum intha Grace/Beety kilo enna velai nu theriyala.. eppudi alakarathu num theriyala.. So naanum ingaye vittudaren... team a porukkara velaya paapom...

Kalyasi
12th March 2010, 03:26 PM
Dhoni also has not always been a ugly stroke maker.. appo appo avarum oru elegant aaana straight drive, elegant aana cover drive, very elegant sqare cuts ellam velayadi irukaar... athellam en note pannave maatengarel yuvar aanar? Which means he is capable good cricketing shots but mostly chooses not to play them :P

Ellame by chance thaan... Instinct... eppadi venaalum sollalaam...

Kalyasi
12th March 2010, 03:28 PM
Dhoni also has not always been a ugly stroke maker.. appo appo avarum oru elegant aaana straight drive, elegant aana cover drive, very elegant sqare cuts ellam velayadi irukaar...
[Not related to this selection]
Eppo idhellam adichaaru? Enna venaalum sollunga, elegant and Dhoni? Nevaire!

Ippo kooda SA series la Dinesh Karthik kum avarum velayadum pothu Dhoni Johan Botha panthu la oru late cut aaduvaaru, if that is not elegant then I also dont know what else is.... Antha over la pinbu vanthu Dinesh Karthi oru SIX adipaaru... 3rd ODI....

directhit
12th March 2010, 06:33 PM
Kekanum-nu nenachen is Lara a great ODI player? :twisted:


Lara can cover both but enakku therinju ODIsla single dayla explosive-A engeyum edhuvum paNnadhilla. sutham!!

oru manushan edho paavam 375/400/501* (FC) laam adichitta avana ODI la marandhuda vendiyadhu :evil:

Plum
12th March 2010, 06:43 PM
seri, remind me of the ODI gems that I might have forgotten of Lara?

directhit
12th March 2010, 07:00 PM
adadaa kud question (esp to me :oops:) - usually dont recall any matches with scores etc.. immly recall a match v pakis which he got retired hurt b4 which he and haynes (or richardson) had almost won the game for the windies - guess they won by 10 wkts. then against sa there was the quarterfinals of WC i guess where he even hit symcox for abt 5 boundaries in one over, he single handedly won that match for em.. and there were many more.. esp against aussies/pakis/southafrica and srilanka. when he used to open with haynes he was unstoppable (guess he averaged abt 47 odd b4 2000).. then with haynes gone and their middle order totally out of order he came either one or two down..
considering his arrival to the crease was mostly at 20/2 or 30/3 most of his innings were amazing!
if psbl wud try to get more accurate stuff later

Plum
12th March 2010, 07:02 PM
adadaa kud question (esp to me :oops:) - usually dont recall any matches with scores etc.. immly recall a match v pakis which he got retired hurt b4 which he and haynes (or richardson) had almost won the game for the windies - guess they won by 10 wkts. then against sa there was the quarterfinals of WC i guess where he even hit symcox for abt 5 boundaries in one over, he single handedly won that match for em.. and there were many more.. esp against aussies/pakis/southafrica and srilanka. when he used to open with haynes he was unstoppable (guess he averaged abt 47 odd b4 2000).. then with haynes gone and their middle order totally out of order he came either one or two down..
considering his arrival to the crease was mostly at 20/2 or 30/3 most of his innings were amazing!
if psbl wud try to get more accurate stuff later

Sure, pls to note that me a Lara fan, and on occasion, can take the side of BCL even in a comparison with God. avarukkedhirA nAn sandai ellAM pOda mAttEn.

directhit
12th March 2010, 07:08 PM
Sure, pls to note that me a Lara fan, and on occasion, can take the side of BCL even in a comparison with God. avarukkedhirA nAn sandai ellAM pOda mAttEn. :P almost all of my school days (ever since i played cricket) + college was spent fighting BCL v SRT
but oru 5-6 varushamaa touch vittu pochu :lol:

littlemaster1982
12th March 2010, 07:29 PM
adadaa kud question (esp to me :oops:) - usually dont recall any matches with scores etc.. immly recall a match v pakis which he got retired hurt b4 which he and haynes (or richardson) had almost won the game for the windies - guess they won by 10 wkts.

He was retired hurt after getting 88. 92 WC. That was a low scoring match though. The innings I remember for his ODI exploits is this (http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65858.html) one. Chasing 285 is very difficult those days, but he made it ridiculously easy. I also watched 169 vs SL in live telecast.


then against sa there was the quarterfinals of WC i guess where he even hit symcox for abt 5 boundaries in one over, he single handedly won that match for em..

You forgot 2003 WC opening match as well.

P_R
12th March 2010, 07:30 PM
SarchA final 93/94.

284 was a competitive total to chase back then. Lara stomped Pakistan (http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65858.html)

He mauled SriLanka when they were at their peak making 169. SL came very close.

Several innings against Aus and SA.

WC 96 QF century against SAFrica. Imagine WI was a side that had lost to Kenya. SA had won all 5 league matches and were going great guns. After Chanderpaul got out it was pretty much the tail.

Plum
12th March 2010, 07:31 PM
adadaa kud question (esp to me :oops:) - usually dont recall any matches with scores etc.. immly recall a match v pakis which he got retired hurt b4 which he and haynes (or richardson) had almost won the game for the windies - guess they won by 10 wkts.

He was retired hurt after getting 88. 92 WC. That was a low scoring match though. The innings I remember for his ODI exploits is this (http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65858.html) one. Chasing 285 is very difficult those days, but he made it ridiculously easy. I also watched 169 vs SL in live telecast.


then against sa there was the quarterfinals of WC i guess where he even hit symcox for abt 5 boundaries in one over, he single handedly won that match for em..

You forgot 2003 WC opening match as well.
*Points at Self* nIyellAm fan-AdA? :banghead:

littlemaster1982
12th March 2010, 07:32 PM
PR and I pretty much posted the same thing :D

Plum
12th March 2010, 07:40 PM
adhukkAga naan innoru murai quote paNNi muttikka mudiyAdhu :-)

littlemaster1982
12th March 2010, 07:41 PM
Ada, adhukku sollalainga :sigh2:

Plum
12th March 2010, 07:42 PM
Ada, adhukku sollalainga :sigh2:
theriyum. chummA uluululavaayikku sonnEn!

P_R
12th March 2010, 09:12 PM
adhukkAga naan innoru murai quote paNNi muttikka mudiyAdhu :-) :lol:

ajithfederer
13th March 2010, 01:27 AM
According to me Lara's case was the worst version of Tendulkar's case. Tendulkar started with a pathetic team(Match fixers, no good-ers) which moved into an average team in the 00's to Middle Noughts and now he is in a good team. Even now I won't insist on the adjective "good". Our ODI Team is only good on paper. In the next world cup if i am to bet my 100$, i would still bet on the OZ's.

Poor Lara he started out with a relatively much much better team in the early 90's. They had good contributors (Richardson, Haynes, Hooper, Ambrose, Walsh, Bishop) which went to average and then to down right abysmal. He was always stranded in most occasions. Pala matches la avar mugathai paathale paavama irukkum. My opinion is it definitely affected him. I may be wrong but thats what I feel about it. The Frank- Worrell Trophy was a keenly contested series till the year 1998 and i used to love watching it.

directhit
13th March 2010, 01:39 AM
*Points at Self* nIyellAm fan-AdA? :banghead: same to you - enna chonnen!!

LM - yeah WC, the first match v SA again :bow:

AF :thumbsup:

ajithfederer
13th March 2010, 01:45 AM
I think it was the 01 satta sabai election (or) 99 Naadalumandra election in TN. Vaiko/MK were about to form an alliance. The strangle for Number of seats was awful and MK gave only few seats to the latter. Vaikks was obviously disgruntled about it. MK gave a latter intree saying that "thoguthigalla avvalo idam than thara mudiyum idhuku mela idhayathula than idam kodukka mudiyum".

:lol:.
His nakkal even at that age is :bow:


:rotfl: :lol: :rotfl:

What a subtle dig!!. yaarai kutharingannu theriudhu :P.


Ganguly - indian teamla ok but weld teamnu varachE idhaythula dhaan idam kodukku mudiyum!

AF, dig-lAm illai :-). I am not sure what you are talking about. Oru flow-la sonnadhu avLO dhAn!
(nInga enna ninaichIngannu PM paNNunga!)

Bala (Karthik)
13th March 2010, 01:54 AM
Vaikks was obviously disgruntled about it. MK gave a latter intree saying that "thoguthigalla avvalo idam than thara mudiyum idhuku mela idhayathula than idam kodukka mudiyum".

:lol:.
His nakkal even at that age is :bow:

:lol: yeah, remember reading/hearing about that..

Kalyasi
13th March 2010, 07:41 AM
Ippo kooda 2005 la nadantha VB series la PAK oda 156 adipaaru... pola adi....

Plum
13th March 2010, 08:03 AM
All pets cancelled - lara in my team immediat!
(*does shanmughasundaram emotional pongal*)

Plum
19th March 2010, 02:09 PM
#3-ku thread aarambikkalAmA?

Choices?

RT Ponting
BC Lara
Inzamam
RS Dravid
Aravinda de Silva
MS Dhoni? :mrgreen:
JH Kallis

Who else?

Plum
19th March 2010, 02:10 PM
unga team nallA thAn irukku - but democracyku bow paNNanum illaiyA?
Election nadathiyE thIraNum!

#3 being specialised, adhai decide paNnittu, we'll have one poll for #4, #5 and #6 - adhula top 3 candidates-ai select paNNalAmA?
Or, we can try to divide candidates in 3 pools, such that there is team balance between #4, #5 and #6?
Like #4 competitors - De Silva, Ponting, Dravid, Inzy, Lara
Once we choose one among these, except possibly De Silva, we'll bar the rest from competing for #4? Because De Silva brings additional skills apart from specialist #3 skills. If De Silva wins #3, then maybe we can look at some of these guys like Lara for #4? Ok, I'll make my intentions clear, Ponting will be barred if he doesnt win #3 - others can compete for further positions :-).

For #4 - say, Lara:Sehwag(he wants #4):Yuvraj Singh(ha!ha!) etc
For #5 - Dravid
For #6 - Rhodes, Dhoni(as pure batsman!), Bevan etc with the focus on fielding, specialist finishing skills etc?

First #3 quick-A muicharalAm.

this is also up for discussion

satissh_r
19th March 2010, 02:11 PM
Despite the fact I hate to watch him bat - Chanderpaul?

Plum
19th March 2010, 02:11 PM
End of today nominations decide paNNittu thread and poll will be opened.

raajarasigan
19th March 2010, 02:38 PM
Richie Richardson
Carl Hooper
Martin Crowe
Dean Jones

??

Dinesh84
19th March 2010, 02:53 PM
Richie Richardson
Carl Hooper
Martin Crowe
Dean Jones

?? 90's :roll:

satissh_r
19th March 2010, 02:58 PM
Richie Richardson
Carl Hooper
Martin Crowe
Dean Jones

?? 90's :roll:

I had the same question but then realized they all played in the 92 WC and most of them were very good in it

raajarasigan
19th March 2010, 03:15 PM
I think we are skipping great of players of early 90's.. even viv Richards played till 1990 if my memory goes well...

instead, we can set the benchmark for players who started their career from 90's.. this will avoid those early 90's heroes...

Plum
19th March 2010, 05:11 PM
I think we are skipping great of players of early 90's.. even viv Richards played till 1990 if my memory goes well...

instead, we can set the benchmark for players who started their career from 90's.. this will avoid those early 90's heroes...

yeah, thats the plan raajarasigan.

Plum
19th March 2010, 05:12 PM
Hooper ofcourse played till mid 90s atleast with breaks inbetween.

Should we consider him for the all-rounder position later?

raajarasigan
22nd March 2010, 11:41 AM
in fact, Hooper played till 2002.. he was the captain for India-WI ODI series which they won 3-2....

I don't consider him as a genuine all rounder...

lawmani
9th April 2010, 09:13 AM
This is always a tough one. But here goes...

1. Sachin Tendulkar
2. Adam Gilchrist (wkt)
3. RT Ponting
4. Brian Lara
5. JH Kallis
6. Michael Bevan
7. Andrew Flintoff
8. Wasim Akram
9. Shane Warne (c)
10. Muttiah Muralitharan
11. Glenn McGrath

All but NZ have been represented!

Movie Cop
13th April 2010, 12:25 AM
How come I missed this thread. :?

Playing XI:

Sachin Tendulkar (Vice Capt)
Adam Gilchrist (WK)
Brian Lara
Aravinda De Silva
Inzamam Ul Haq
Andrew Symonds
Andrew Flintoff
Wasim AKram (Capt)
Shane Warne
Curtly Ambrose
Muthiah Muralitharan

Reserve players: Mark Waugh, Carl Hooper, Mark Boucher, Glen McGrath, Allan Donald

Movie Cop
13th April 2010, 12:28 AM
#3-ku thread aarambikkalAmA?

Choices?

RT Ponting
BC Lara
Inzamam
RS Dravid
Aravinda de Silva
MS Dhoni? :mrgreen:
JH Kallis

Who else?
#3 = no saaice. Lara only. :)
#4 = Aravindar only.

19thmay
27th April 2010, 02:01 PM
Plum FYI...

Plum
27th April 2010, 02:04 PM
Wait a day for 5 days. nesstu week start pandrEn.

Kalyasi
27th April 2010, 02:05 PM
Wait a day for 5 days. nesstu week start pandrEn.

Nestu week T20 WC... anga bissi aayiduvom... now its boring, ethavthu pannunga...at least sandayavathu podalaam vaanga...

19thmay
27th April 2010, 02:11 PM
Wait a day for 5 days. nesstu week start pandrEn.

Yen? adhisayama office-la vela paaka poreengala? :lol2:

Plum
27th April 2010, 05:25 PM
vElai senjA dhAn sambaLam tharuvAngaLAm. indha aniyaayathai kEkka ALE illaiyA?

Yuvi
27th April 2010, 07:29 PM
vElai senjA dhAn sambaLam tharuvAngaLAm. indha aniyaayathai kEkka ALE illaiyA?

naan irukaen.. unga aniyaayatha (sambalatha) enkita kodunga :lol:

raajarasigan
29th April 2010, 01:05 PM
enna Plum, # 3 yaarunnu decide panniyacha.... en choice Ricky Ponting than... # 4 Lara pottudalam.... Lara # 4la than niraya aadirunkkaaru...

satissh_r
29th April 2010, 01:44 PM
enna Plum, # 3 yaarunnu decide panniyacha.... en choice Ricky Ponting than... # 4 Lara pottudalam.... Lara # 4la than niraya aadirunkkaaru...

second this

raghavendran
29th April 2010, 09:30 PM
enna Plum, # 3 yaarunnu decide panniyacha.... en choice Ricky Ponting than... # 4 Lara pottudalam.... Lara # 4la than niraya aadirunkkaaru...

second this
mee too...thalaivar lara illamaya? :notworthy:

Puliyan_Biryani
15th October 2010, 01:33 PM
:roll:

Maniraj
15th October 2010, 01:39 PM
Sachin
Gilchrist
Suresh raina
Jaques Kallis
Aravinda de silva
Inzamam ul haq
Lance klusener
Anil kumble
Glen Mcgrath
Waqar younis
Muthaih Muralidharan

Maniraj
15th October 2010, 01:45 PM
Current

Sachin
Sehwag
Raina
Kallis
Michael Hussey
Albie morkel
Dhoni
Shakib ul hasan
Daniel vettori
Zaheer
Bollinger

Puliyan_Biryani
15th October 2010, 01:47 PM
Sachin
Gilchrist
Suresh raina
Jaques Kallis
Aravinda de silva
Inzamam ul haq
Lance klusener
Anil kumble
Glen Mcgrath
Waqar younis
Muthaih Muralidharan
:shock: adhukkulla waeld XI-laya. konjam explain pannunga.

BTB, where is 19thMay? indha thread-la adutha course of action enna-nu konjam velakki sollunga.

Maniraj
15th October 2010, 01:51 PM
Yaen.Nalla thaanae perporm pannuraaru :huh:

sathya_1979
15th October 2010, 01:54 PM
Sachin
Gilchrist
Lara
Cronje
Steve waugh
Rhodes
Bevan
Pollock
Akram
Mcgrath
Murali

Puliyan_Biryani
15th October 2010, 02:20 PM
Yaen.Nalla thaanae perporm pannuraaru :huh:
ippodhaanayya aada aarambichurukkaaru. innum velinaattu pitch-la ellaam adikkanum, pressure games-la adikkanum. adhukkulla waeld XI-la select pannitta epdi.

Puliyan_Biryani
15th October 2010, 02:31 PM
Sathya, Steven Waugh? Apart from the magnificent "Son, you dropped the World Cup" innings, I can't remember too many special ODI knocks. Since you have Bevan anyways, wouldn't a hard-hitting-Klusener mode all-rounder be more effective in the team?

raajarasigan
15th October 2010, 02:35 PM
My XI

Sachin
Gilchrist
Ponting
Lara
Cronje (C)
Dhoni
Symonds
Shane Warne
Wasim Akran
Curtly Ambrose
McGrath

sathya_1979
15th October 2010, 02:39 PM
also for his bowling and fighting spirit. Can consider aravinda / klusner / KP / Vettori / Hooper for that spot.

Puliyan_Biryani
15th October 2010, 03:17 PM
ODI World XI

Sachin Tendulkar - Enuff said :notworthy: :notworthy:
Adam Gilchrist - Very good even against good bowling attacks. Also an all-rounder as he allows us to play extra batsman or bowler.
Brian Lara - Big match player :notworthy:.
Aravinda De Silva - Was a fine player in ODIs. Apart from the usual specials, a couple from 2003 world cup - 90-odd in a hopeless losing cause against McGrath,Lee & co (World Cup winning bowling combination) and the 70-odd against SA on a difficult pitch (Match tied as SA didn't know how to read the DL sheet :rotfl:)
Inzamam ul-Haq - His pacing of the innings is less talked about. But during many chases he did it wonderfully. Has the ability to shift gears instantly and release pressure.
Michael Bevan - In an era where Taylor,Slater,et al left Aus in tatters at 40/3 or 50/3, Bevan was often their savior. Expert in pacing the chase.
Lance Klusener - Clean-hitter of the ball. Can bowl with some good pace as well.
Shane Warne - Captain :cool:.
Wasim Akram - Sultan of Swing :notworthy:
Waqar Younis - Death over specalist. Has the most 5-fors in ODIs. I don't think anyone is going to beat that record.
Glenn McGrath - Miserly and picks early wickets. Very effective in picking wickets in the middle overs as well.

sathya_1979
15th October 2010, 03:22 PM
I considered Inzy for middle order and younis for bowling slot. But for me, ODI player shud be very gud in 2 out of 3 departments. waugh, pollock, akram, cronje, rhodes slightly tilt the balance.

MADDY
15th October 2010, 04:52 PM
My team:

Sachin
Gilchrist
Mohammed Yusuf
Lara
Yuvraj
Bevan
Cairns
Wasim Akram
Warne
Fanie de villiers
Mcgrath

Gilchrist is the keeper and opener paa - :D

raghavendran
15th October 2010, 05:40 PM
MY TEAM
A.GILCHRIST
S.TENDULKAR
S.GANGULY 'C'
B.LARA
I.UL-HAQ
M.BEVAN
L.KLUSENER
W.AKRAM
C.AMBROSE
S.WARNE
A.DONALD

Dinesh84
15th October 2010, 05:51 PM
MY TEAM
A.GILCHRIST
S.TENDULKAR
S.GANGULY 'C'
B.LARA
I.UL-HAQ
M.BEVAN
L.KLUSENER
W.AKRAM
C.AMBROSE
S.WARNE
A.DONALD 8-) :smokesmirk:

Riyazz
26th October 2010, 04:27 PM
my team

sehwag
gilchrist
sachin
inzamam
symonds
dhoni (c)
klusner
akram
walsh
mcgrath
murali

19thmay
26th October 2010, 06:10 PM
Plum, can we start this again?

So far selected

Sachin Tendulkar
Sanath Jayasurya

# 3 nominations please...

sathya_1979
26th October 2010, 06:16 PM
BC Lara!

Puliyan_Biryani
26th October 2010, 06:20 PM
Plum, can we start this again?

So far selected

Sachin Tendulkar
Adam Gilchrist

# 3 nominations please...
adhukku munnaadi oru kelvi kekkanum. Gilchrist keep panna maattaaraa (in this XI)? This is one of the attractions of Gilly and it will lend more balance to the team IMO.

19thmay
26th October 2010, 06:22 PM
Since Jayasurya opens the innings with the God, WK slot is still open.

Plum
26th October 2010, 07:47 PM
19th, nadathunga.

PuLi, surya is the opener. Indha teknikA aussie chocie-ai nuzhaikkaradhukku idhu icc committee nadathum thErthal illai.

Wicket keepingkum thErthal varum. Adhula ms dhoni-nu option kuduppOm. Adhai meeri endha aussie wicket keeper hub teamla nuzhaiyaraarunnu pArthudalAm :evil:

Ramakrishna
26th October 2010, 07:52 PM
Gilly is a better choice as a wicket keeper batsman

Puliyan_Biryani
26th October 2010, 08:22 PM
PuLi, surya is the opener. Indha teknikA aussie chocie-ai nuzhaikkaradhukku idhu icc committee nadathum thErthal illai.

Wicket keepingkum thErthal varum. Adhula ms dhoni-nu option kuduppOm. Adhai meeri endha aussie wicket keeper hub teamla nuzhaiyaraarunnu pArthudalAm :evil:
unga ennam purinju pochu Plum :wink:. Gilly-ya opening erakkina WK-ku combetition irukkaadhunu feel panreenga. nadathunga nadathunga :thumbsup:

Maddy,Ram,Ajay please note this point.

Plum
26th October 2010, 08:33 PM
Allov gilly-a choose paNNinA innoru wicket keeperku pollE kedaiyAdhu. Dhoni eliminated without even chance :)

As I said, maNiyA varalAtrai therinjukkONum. Thread-ai modhallErundhu padichu ennoda needhi, nyaayam, nermai patri therindhu kondu vandu pOtri pAdunga. Adhai vuttutu sillyAlAm pEsapadAdhu :evil:

Puliyan_Biryani
26th October 2010, 08:45 PM
ada ponga Plum. naanum Chappell (http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=2277934#2277934) maadhiri mutti modhi paakkaren, Mendis maadhiri pesittu irukkeenga.

Gilly for President :cheer: