Anniyan - Patriotism

Anniyan does portray people lack of respect for rules in TN/India.
The following is my personal experience.

The traffic signal is the best example.
Even before the signal turns green, half of the vehicles have crossed the intersection. They blast the horn from behind if you rightfully wait for the signal to turn green.
This happens in every intersection in chennai.
Why cant they wait that 5 seconds for the signal to turn green?
How do the pedestrians cross? They have to literally run seeing both sides of the street for you can
never be sure. So much for concern for others.

Standing in queues anywhere.
There is bound to be a guy who will cut in front of you and reach for the counter.
He things people standing in the queue are morons.


The basic mentality is to cut corners where ever you can.
In all walks of life, we cannot be patient and wait our turn.
Such disdain for rules and lack of respect for fellow human needs to be corrected.

Anniyan takes the violent route, while Ambi approaches it merely by questioning it.

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Originally Posted by ganesh79

Ok. I don't like any allusions. Let me be straight. How many people here think my points are foolish? I may sound agitated or drunken, who cares. If you feel, I am foolish and should go out of this forum, let me know. I will do so. Anyways, before this topic was started nobody discussed Anniyan in this perscpetive. So, I am already happy anyways.

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I'm just a regular hubber here Ganesh. So I dont know if my "vote" would carry any weight :D

I agree with what Thiru just said..and I feel that any discussion will always have pros and cons. It wont serve anybody and any purpose if you left the forum, but then ultimately the choice will be yours and only yours.

This discussion on Anniyan has brought out many things which were interesting. For me, personally speaking it's nice to listen to such intellectual discussions, instead of just prattling on and taking personal pot shots.

I'm glad you started this thread, thanks for that. It's always nice to stop and think, instead accepting everything blindly and carrying on in life as if one is never part of anything.

Shoba

ganesh79...i'm with u.... :D .......i'm pretty sure things will change in India......India will bcome no.1 one day and we will laugh at these pessimists.......be happy ganesh.....

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Sweatshop is one of biggest problem in US and several other countries too. Infact, in US I have seen huge number of protests by students agains sweatshops

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Ganesh are you are living in the US ?

Ganesh&Maddy,
I fail to understand why both of you are just refusing to see the comments being put forward by Unltd Meals&others in the right perspective.None of us are saying India is doing very badly as far as economy,military might&other issues are concerned but there are still a lot of things to be done,right?Why ignore them totally or argue such things never exist :?

Since the discussion started with Anniyan,let me revisit it.Forgetting for a moment on how good/bad was Shankar's execution&how it compares with his previous efforts,the issues raised by Shankar are valid right?

As one of the hubbers pointed out,We can't do simple things like standing in a Q,Waiting for the traffic signal to fall green,allowing pedestrians to cross,dumping garbage in cans,not spitting/urinating/defaceting on the roads,not cutting yellow lines which when done leads to blocking of traffic on the other side etc etc etc.In every walk of day to day life,there is impatience&insensitivity shown to fellow human beings.

These are some of the issues raised by Shankar in the film.Are you telling that such things don't exist.In fact there is no need to compare ourselves with other countries.These are things which should be a part of our culture.Why is it not there?Is it not our responsibility to inculcate basic discipline,politeness&courtesy to our children&to educated/not educated grown ups who don't have it.

Any furthur discussion will be useful only when you get the drift of the arguments.I once again reiterate that India is def a growing power but a lot still needs to done.Hope atleast now we won't go around in circles. :D

Cinefan,
In a family consider there are two kids.One kid is soo gud,he has cultivated self-dicipline,culture etc..other one is not so.So what is the job of Father of that family.He has to be strict on the other one right?? That the thing needed now.Rules should be moooreeeeeeeee strict.Fine the persons who are against the rules.BTW,
Indian - Shankar concentrates on the indicipline in the higher level ie., Govt employees etc.,
Mudhalvan - Shankar concentrates on the indicipline in very high level ie., Govt itself
Anniyan - He concentrates on the lower level indiciplines...

Whatever he shld be praised atleast that he is making movie that has some good production :D

I think too much is being read into annyan. Shankar is not a director who delves too much inyo an issue & offers solutions.

He is more of a mass director who just touches on issues.

He is not a KB or mani ratnam to examine a problem in totality.

He makes films purely from a commerical angle. That's all.

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Originally Posted by UnlimtedMeals

People,

Does the concept of respect for labor exist in India? I want to know how aware our public are about sweatshops and all that. With the way they are hanging out their toungue for FDI these days, I doubt the govt has any incentive to fight for the working class.

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:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
That's what "capitalism" is all about :)

Cinefan & Beckham

Good points. Exactly what I have been saying. Thanks so much for sparing time iterating these points.

alwarpet_andavan

Its true. I happened to atttend a symposium where the issue discussed was how to balance regulations in a free market economy. There were points raised against govts like India as to how they are so occupied in licking the boots of these corps while ignoring their working class citizens. The conclusion was that these govts haze so much to lose that they will agree to whatever conditions these corps ask for. otherwise these corps wil threaten to move away to say vietnam or egypt.