MAKKAL THILAGAM MGR !!!

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Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea

When a Sivaji big budget film was to be released, MGR would come up with a matcher of an entertainer biggie, which would ensure that Sivaji's rise was checked.

However, despite all that MGR did to pip Sivaji at the box office, he could not take away the tag of a super actor that was Sivaji's all the way.

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Correct, Bayarea...

Several times, during the clash between the movies of both of them, MGR's films made Shivaji's films as big flops.

For example:

'Thaayai kaaththa thanayan' vs 'Kapplottiya Tamizhan'
'Vettaikaaran' vs 'Karnan'
'Palani' vs 'Enga veettu piilai'
'Anbe Vaa' vs 'Motor sundaram pillai'
'Kudiyirundha Koil' vs 'Enga oor Raja'
'Nam Naadu' vs 'Sivandha Mann'
'Maatukaara Velan' vs 'Enga Mama'
'Kumari kottam' vs 'Iru dhuruvam'
'Adimai penn' vs 'Thanga Surangam'
'Ulagam sutrum vaaliban' vs 'Rajaraja Cholan'

But some times the history changed while Shivaji's movies become Box office hits when MGR met some flops.

Some examples:

'Babu' vs 'Neerum Neruppum'
'Raja' vs 'Oru thaai makkal'
'Gnana oli' vs 'Sangey muzhangu'
'Pattikaada pattanama' vs 'Raman thediya seethai'
'Vietnaam veedu' vs 'Thalaivan'
'Raman eththanai Ramanadi' vs 'Thedi vandha maapillai'
'Vasantha Maaligai' vs 'Idhaya veenai'
'Engal thanga Raja' vs 'Pattikattu ponnaiya'
'Thanga padhakkam' vs 'Netru indru naalai'
'Deepam' vs 'Navarathinam'
'Thiyaagam' vs 'M.M.Sundara pandiyan'

Few times, both of their films met success, like:

'Engirundho vandhaal' & 'Sorkam' (vs) 'Engal Thangam'
'Savaali Samaali' (vs) 'Rikshawkaran'

Oh my god,

Saradha how can you possibly know all these?

:shock:

verai enna copy and past thane :rotfl:

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Originally Posted by Crab

Oh my god,

Saradha how can you possibly know all these?

:shock:

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Originally Posted by justice

verai enna copy and past thane :rotfl:

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Originally Posted by Crab

Oh my god,

Saradha how can you possibly know all these?

:shock:

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Justice, you are wrong......

This is my own statement.

I challenege you, can you find this details anywhere?.

(In fact, I am the first one who told, 'Ulagam sutrum vaaliban' is the same story of 'Moondrezhuthu', for which I got appreciation from various sides).

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Originally Posted by justice

verai enna copy and past thane :rotfl:

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Originally Posted by Crab

Oh my god,

Saradha how can you possibly know all these?

:shock:

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Justice....

Very simple... Just go through the other posts of Saradha chechi.... and you will realise the truth that she is an authority on films...especially old films.....

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Originally Posted by saradhaa_sn

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Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea

When a Sivaji big budget film was to be released, MGR would come up with a matcher of an entertainer biggie, which would ensure that Sivaji's rise was checked.

However, despite all that MGR did to pip Sivaji at the box office, he could not take away the tag of a super actor that was Sivaji's all the way.

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Correct, Bayarea...

Several times, during the clash between the movies of both of them, MGR's films made Shivaji's films as big flops.

For example:

'Thaayai kaaththa thanayan' vs 'Kapplottiya Tamizhan'
'Vettaikaaran' vs 'Karnan'
'Palani' vs 'Enga veettu piilai'
'Anbe Vaa' vs 'Motor sundaram pillai'
'Kudiyirundha Koil' vs 'Enga oor Raja'
'Nam Naadu' vs 'Sivandha Mann'
'Maatukaara Velan' vs 'Enga Mama'
'Kumari kottam' vs 'Iru dhuruvam'
'Adimai penn' vs 'Thanga Surangam'
'Ulagam sutrum vaaliban' vs 'Rajaraja Cholan'

But some times the history changed while Shivaji's movies become Box office hits when MGR met some flops.

Some examples:

'Babu' vs 'Neerum Neruppum'
'Raja' vs 'Oru thaai makkal'
'Gnana oli' vs 'Sangey muzhangu'
'Pattikaada pattanama' vs 'Raman thediya seethai'
'Vietnaam veedu' vs 'Thalaivan'
'Raman eththanai Ramanadi' vs 'Thedi vandha maapillai'
'Vasantha Maaligai' vs 'Idhaya veenai'
'Engal thanga Raja' vs 'Pattikattu ponnaiya'
'Thanga padhakkam' vs 'Netru indru naalai'
'Deepam' vs 'Navarathinam'
'Thiyaagam' vs 'M.M.Sundara pandiyan'

Few times, both of their films met success, like:

'Engirundho vandhaal' & 'Sorkam' (vs) 'Engal Thangam'
'Savaali Samaali' (vs) 'Rikshawkaran'

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Wow... Saradha madam, unga thalaiyil iruppathu brain alla. Oru mini computer. What a fast recollection.

I never see these details anywhere. Once Mr.S.Balaji called you as 'Film News' Saradha. You are proving it is true by your day to day postings. Everytime you are coming with new informations.

keep it up.......

awesome :thumbsup:
I know that and you did a fantastic job :wink:



I didn't mean to hurt you but that a jovial digression :wink:


neenga vazhga

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Originally Posted by saradhaa_sn

This is my own statement.

I challenege you, can you find this details anywhere?.

(In fact, I am the first one who told, 'Ulagam sutrum vaaliban' is the same story of 'Moondrezhuthu', for which I got appreciation from various sides).

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enna back up-pa? :lol:
she's the second best, I agree


now what's wrong with you and me? :roll:

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Originally Posted by S.Balaji

Justice....

Very simple... Just go through the other posts of Saradha chechi.... and you will realise the truth that she is an authority on films...especially old films.....

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Excerpts from an interview of famous singer K J Yesudas .... about MGR !!!!

http://www.chennaionline.com/chennai...2kjyesudas.asp

How was your experience with M G Ramachandran when you sang for his film 'Urimai Kural'?

One day, our late chief minister M G Ramachandran called me over and asked me to sing the song 'Vizhiye Kadhai Ezhudhu'. I was elated and thrilled. My happiness doubled when the song became a hit.

MGR is a mahaan. I came to know about him at a later stage. He not only gave importance to music but more to the art itself. His character was such that he turned even his foes into friends.

For example, at a time when he had difference of opinion with Kannadasan politically, he was not satisfied with the lyrics for a particular song. Finally, he himself suggested that Kannadasan be called to write the lyrics. Others around him were hesitant but MGR was firm. He told them that Kannadasan had no equal and asked them to approach him for the lyrics. Kannadasan also obliged and the song was 'Odum Megangale' for the film 'Aayirathil Oruvan'. Enmity vanished... and art gained importance...

Saradhaa,

Do you think that some of the Sivaji movies that you listed as FLOPS are really flops? My uncle was a big time sivaji fan and he used to tell me that Karnan ran over 100 days in Madurai Thangam Theatre, which is one of the largest movie halls in Asia. Also, I believe, the following movies ran over 100 days and movie database considers them as hit movies:

1. Enga Oor Raja
2. Sivandha Mann
3. Motor Sundaram Pillai

I am not from Sivaji/MGR generation, but I like Sivaji movies just because his versatility. Also, under sivaji hits vs. mgr flops, most of the sivaji movies are b/w versus MGR color flop movies.

MGR was the first one who brought "heroism" in tamil nadu (followed by others after), which made it a pathetic state in India. TN is the only state where actors are worshipped. On this front, the entire blame goes to MGR.

As far as I know, Sivaji was the only actor who release two movies at the same day and made both of them hits. Is there any other actor who achieved this feat?