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i told u that point cos i wanted to tell u that producer has a say in MD selection........nuthin else....i did not suggest anything else....ayyo ayyo, yaen thaan ivalovu insecurity IR fansukku..... :banghead:[/quote]
Yeah insecurity..because ARR fans come and change the minds of IR fans..good try better luck next time..
Appa intha topic konjam thisai thirupuvoma
Just imagine, how shankar is including all his associate directors like Balaji sakthivel, Vasantha Balan and others for story discussion and stuff.
Let us assume ARR is not the MD and all MD's will have one song for this movie how should it
be? to start with
Deva will do the Rajini Entrance by mixing ARR's and IR's together ex pothuvaga + oruvan oruvan
what about BGM, LOVE SONG, SENTIMENT and others
OR
We can choose ARR's old movie songs (not rajinis) and make it suited for sivaji
Ex
Ah Aah song for Rajini Entrance
New - Song for Shreya.
"Guys/gals this is not a fight, just imagine and start pouring out, let us have much lighter conversation"
Aararai Kodi Pergalil Oruvan will suit well for Rajini but as a IInd grade Rajini song.
ARR should give best for Shivaji.
u have caught up with IInd grade word a lot... :lol: probably listening to a lot of Karthickraja's songs(naalai)....... :lol: .....Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
nilavu, there were media reports that Rajini met IR after TIS release which was just at the time of shivaji launch......obviously none cud rule out IR.......and it was AVM who confirmed ARR as the MD, and they gave "richness" as the reason for their reason to choose ARR.....i have just quoted their statements and not mine.....
MIL, IR fans are insecure since the day ARR arrived........if u do root cause analysis of all bashings u'll find out the truth.....i know u dunt want to....leave it MIL, as scale said just wait till shivaji releases and wait for ARR to answer all the critics here.....y shuld i do it :wink:
i know u dunt want to....leave it MIL
Maddy
It is not I dont want to, but root cause analysis still says IR fans are not insecure; the postings might be more of a bashing (which i sincerely dont agree to, it shows low class); it goes either ways.
But I still think Shivaji could be good, I was so impressed with the New Song, I am expecting a little more (this is true, when Dalapathy came out, I was so impressed with IR to change the whole way a RK movie music could be, more than that the BGM was out of the world). I take efforts to go to theatres only for RK movies here in NJ so surely I am waiting for a good and impressive musical score
Maddy
it is also like this, if you think logically, if the music is by IR, we used to listen to it invariably, the only other person in recent years i have been motivated is ARR. Whether good or bad or we like or not like it is totally a different question.
MADDY :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
yes, before naali songs i rated "6.5 kodi song" in Ist grade. But naali songs put "6.5" into IInd grade.
same side goal pootteenga
ipaadiye pesi pesi KR manasa rana galam aakittungappa........innuma oor avara nambaranga??? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
btw i never know listening to KR's songs have such side effects :shock: .....kai pulla escapu :wink:
Even I heard that for ANNIYAN shankar was planning to do with IR but not come through. Shankar has high regard for IR(I think during TIS release)and praised a lot. we are all missing shankar-IR combination. Leave alone all the comments ,his work with ARR proved super hit and he gives importance for song as well as picturaisation.
ramesh
umaramesh,
Ir for Anniyan lol!. Shankar IR Combo . ayyo vendave vendam.
Scale
Why so scared :lol: . Imagine when BR signed up with ARR first time? but we enjoyed new varities?
ramesh
uma madam,
KC strength is script, director ^ veteran actors apart from music. Shankar IR combo set aavadhu. IRvaala ippa oru Shakalakka baby kudukka mudiyuma illa Boys dating thaan kudukka mudiyuma. ARRla mattum thaan Mudhalvanevayum kudukka mudiyum kurukku siruthavaleyum ore packla mudiyum. kandippa oru thala thevai illama vurulum. paavam producer pala kodi selavu panni padam edukkuraaru...:sad:
Ramesh, actually you have opened a Pandora's box now !Quote:
Originally Posted by umaramesh
The fact is that the best of the so called old friends BR-IR combo after they broke out, everybody thought that it will be disaster for BR but what actually happened is history.
BR still could get the IR type music in Vedam pudhithu , a real gem of a composition ( but not from ARR )
kodiparakuthu was good as well.
Kizakku cheemayilay was excellent ( precisely what BR wanted for a village story & this time it was ARR ).
Though BR did ennuyir thozan with IR back in brief , the songs were below par ( when compared to IR standards )
Agreed, BR-IR combo could be one of the best ever but i think BR didnt miss much after they got split
ARR adequately breached the gap.
Ippa both BR-IR rendu perukkum vayasu ayudichi . history never repeats .Sonna ellarkum kobam varum. Gudhichikondu thirandu varuvanga :oops:
If one is a fan of IR doesnt mean that he shoud denounce / degrade other MDs especially ARR when he was the first guy who took over from Maestro with a new brand of music. Lets appreciate that fact.
Scale, I think only once IR tried Its Masthana Masthana !Quote:
Originally Posted by Scale
MaddyQuote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
idharku peyar dhaan blind loyaltynu solvanga. IR is IR . thevai illama avar pasagalayum pugaz padina edho avarakku thondu seivadhu pola silar nadipargal silar. Why dont these guys appreciate VS or HS . They will not because of bias and prejudice.
paratinaa, IR kobichupar pola ivangalaparthu. Iyyo Iyyo ! :oops:
xactly my point Nakeeran........i dunno y ppl. just want to support everything that is IR.........IR is gr8, arguably the gr8est, but i will never stand YSR and KR supported just bcos they are IR's sons.......look at the threads started for KR's albums, only IR fans are posting and our dinesh(ARR fans are everywhere :lol: to appreciate anyone) are posting..nobody else is bothering also.......i dunno y they want to promote his family so much.....tell u wat, they cant even stand comments against Bavadharini.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakeeran
hey maddy,i didint realise that untill u mentioned it here....in KR threads,i noticed Sanjeevi & Rajasaranam is the 1 beeing active there....goodness....wonder y these people r like this,just supporting KR & YSR just becoz they r IR's SON???????? :shock: :shock: u dun see ARR fans supporting A.R.Rehana just becoz she is ARR's sis,infact i belive many actually were disgusted by her music rather than going around hyping her music was fabulous just coz she IS ARR'S SIS!Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
seriously,they say YSR is leading among youths,etc etc,having many articles on him,[like in behindwood]...but isnt it its HJ is the 1 ruling the audio chart nowdays??? :?:
Maddy, dinesh and Nakeeran,
Its more like kudumba paasam towards IR from us fans :) Shiva baktharagal muruganayum, pillaiyaarayum kumbudra madhiri thaan ithu :wink:
Why do you people worry about this :roll:
wut bout IR's wife?? is she in any field??? if she is...im not willign to think the support u guys would give her too!!! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Sombody told about me indirectly i am so loyal person on IR and his family. See people, before this i appreciated KR only for his "Album" movie (Chellamai Chellam song). After "Album" there are many movies came from him. I did not like any album after "Album". May be i liked one or two songs. After a long gap i liked 2 albums currently from KR.
What is wrong with you guys? :lol:
Not only i am appreciating KR now, please read the following
http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/t...cle/22475.html
http://milliblog.blogspot.com/2006/05/naalai.html
http://milliblog.blogspot.com/2006/0...zhaikalam.html
Siripu dhan varudhu . Eppada ARR kavundhuruvar , payasaym vachi kondalamnu oru gumbal irukkudhu pola !
IR rasigar endral avarodu niruthikollungalen ? adhenne avarudaya kudumba thuthipadal ?
Sanjeevi, ( I know what is running in your heart ) , for your type of guys, YOU ARE JUST LONGING FOR THAT DAY WHEN YSR OR KR OVERTAKES ARR.
OR THE DAY WHEN ARR GIVES UP MUSIC OR THE DAY WHEN HE SITS IDLE
THIS WILL BE A MOMENT FOR CELEBRATION.
kadavulay kadavulay , thiruthungappa ivangalai !
IDHARKU PEYAR VAYITRERICHAL.
All stems from the basic reason that ARR took over from IR . OTHERWISE WHAT IS THE NEED FOR THIS FAMILY WORSHIPPING ??
CRAZY
I can give 100s of such links :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
So does it elevate KR to higher echelons straight away ?
If you are a true music lover, why cant you talk about HJ or VS or Bharadwaj ? :evil: :evil:
Nakeeran, RS, Maddy, Sanjeevi et all
ippadiyae pesi pesi topic-ai vera disai maatri vitteergal. cool!!
Nakeeran,im impressed by u !! :thumbsup: :clap: :D...for once an IR fan supporting TRUE MUSIC!!! without seeing the family links... unlike few people here....
*dig
Nakeeran is not a fan of IR or KH or Ajith. He's the ulter ego of someone here. He's using the cheap tactic (of having the tag IR fan or KH fan) to ridicule both of them. I read every single post of yours. Stop before moderators take a good care of you.
Kudos for exposing me mate :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Justice
So, if somebody is attached to someone, HE SHOULD CONTINUE TO WORSHIP EVEN HIS CHILDREN BLINDLY ? IS THIS WHAT DEFINES MUSIC LOVING ?
JUSTICE, IF YOU ARE REALLY INTERESTED, JOIN THE ISSUE FOR DEBATE AS NOW THIS THREAD IS VEERING TOWARDS ANOTHER DIRECTION WHICH I AM ALSO FOLLOWING THE TIDE.
Its of least significance about who is Nakeeran or his whereabouts ?
Nice to hear that you read all of my posts. thanks :wink:
For being neutral, I may be beheaded soon :oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinesh2002
"For being neutral, I may be beheaded soon"
Really!!
Nakeeran,
SO WHAT IF WE WORSHIP IR AND HIS FAMILY...what are your problems. :huh:
Tell us musically if KR and YSR are inferior to anybody apart from IR in the field right now :?:
DO you people ask us to support likes of Iman or dheena, If yes sorry folks its not our forte :P
But I have appreciated VS for his thendral, Parthiban kanavu etc., baradwaj for PanvarBoomi,Parthen rasithen etc., I like the few film wonders balabarathy[thalaivaasal] athithyan [amaran]and barani [paarvai ondre podhume] too.
I've appreciated Joshua sridhar too... infact i started the thread for 'UYIR' and also for ARR's LOTR and BOSE.
We are more open and appreciate good music wherever it comes from while we have soft corner towards IR's family. But we dont support them blindly... Being grown under the baton of IR we expect them to create the same magic what their father had given to us. Even if they satisy 50% of our needs we will be happy and rave about it. But incidentaly they are prone to outshine all other MD's and give good music mostly.
Preferentially Iam more biased towards KR because he was more close to IR and has been with him helping right from 'Pandian' days. So I expect him to come out good...while some other IR fans are biased towards YSR...
But KR has never failed to impress me in every other album... listen to DDD, Kudaikkul mazhai, Ullasam, Album, NINI etc., and tell me dont you find shades Of IR's orchestrational and composing techniques. If yes then this debate becomes pointless as we are supporting only worthy person. If not clean up your ears :wink:
Great if there is no bias. IMHO, KR seems more impressive on interludes ( I could see the raja touch ) . Sad that he went to backseat . Hopefully, he should come good soonQuote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Well said juice :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Justice
Enakku oru pazhamozhi than ninaivukku varuthu
"Pasuthol Porthiya Puli"
He is acting here as IR/Ajith/KH fan. Nakeeeraa please come with your original shape :(
Yen, vera pesa topic illaya ungallukku :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
I wonder what makes you put KR name under your wording !
Would appreciate if someone reaches a milestone to be admired.
Yes, KR is a capable guy but not yet reached that stage that you will have to put below your wording !
NAAN IDHAI THAAN THEVAI ILLADHA THUTHI PADAL ENDRU SOLGIREN ARUMAI NANBARAY :wink:
By the way, Mohanlal peyarai en viteergal ? avar thalayum urutungal pls :twisted: :twisted:
Great Mr. Nakeeran great,Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakeeran
Keep playing your double game. :lol:.
He should come good soon???? And what about now????.
Tell me which hides KR's current two extremely well albums (Naalai and MM) to you. Your dusted ears or dusted heart??????.
You are telling that we like KR and his music due to his father factor even if he give worst albums.
Now i tell 100% opposite words only for you and some others
You hate KR and his music due to his father factor even if he give best albums.
Sorry rejected, he is very very stout :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakeeran
Sanjeevi,Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
What makes an ordinary composer to a great / genius is CONSISTENCY . If he is able to achieve that , hats off to him. ( I could see KR more matured and gentle in his approach which augurs well for his bright future )
Sanjeevi
Oru chinna vendugol:
Vidunga summa, topic-kku thagunda mathiri pesuvom? Will KR suit RK, athukku ethavathu example sonneenganna kaetkalam athai vittutu summa pesinadayae pesikittu iruntha intha topic-kku oru interest-um irukkadhu.
Naan ungalai matrum solluvadha ninaika vendam!!
Just intha topic-ai konjam interesting-a disai thirupungal saamy!! (hari -ai koopidanuma?)
What makes an ordinary composer to a great / genius is CONSISTENCY
Nakeeran
can you please define consistency
Long innings - Ability to have a decent long run ( take for ex : MSV, IR, ARR )Quote:
Originally Posted by MusicIsLife
Depth of knowledge - classical, western, village folk
Variety - ( Avaru appavaya eduthukolvom - Meenkodi theril
manmadha rasan , Envaazvilay oray vennillaa, Kanmaniyay kadhal enbadhu , Podhuvaga enmanasu thangam , Pesa koodadhu, Aagaya gangai, Paruvamay pudhiya padal ,
Adaptability to the hero / heroene- Podhuvaga enmanasu thangam , Oruvan mudhalali , minsara kanna, Naan auto karan
Instrumental - Madai thirandhu thavum , Ilam pani thulir vizum neram , uravenum pudhiya vanil etc
If one has the combination of all the above ( JUST AN EXAMPLE AS THE LIST WILL BE BIG ), YOU ARE A WINNER :thumbsup:
If someone is able to deliver the above consistently , he automatically gets elevated into higher league.
IMHO, MSV, IR , ARR all fall into this category of elite group
Well said Nakeerare and all are same as in my view.
IMHO YSR has proved some/many (not all) of categories mentioned by you.