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Arjuna - do you expect Bharathy style music for MX, which is touted to be a hip urban entertainer ??! it would be like having a cocktail of coke and buttermilk - the situation demanded and IR has delivered peppy, racy, Jazz scores - besides, the scores will make complete sense only when we watch the movie with them (especially the "Vande Mataram" piece, since I believe a motorcycle stunt goes on in the background!)
Aiyyo, Songs link a yaravathu sollungappa?
Just go back a couple of pages in this thread,Mumbaixpress has given coolgoose links.But you need to be a member&download is pretty slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by RajaRam
The audio is not available in the stores,from where did 'Coolgoose'get it,Kamal-e kudututtara,marketing-kku :? :)
http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=13709350
An update on the three films releasing on April14th,
CM:all work completed,being censored today,200 prints.audio a smashing hit.
ME:all work completed,censored with 'U'certificate last thursday,150 prints with 12 in digital format(even one will not come here to bangalore.where is the theatre with that facility :( )audio yet to come out. :(
Sachein:Post production going on,likely to be censored on 7th,225 prints(highest among the 3 releases) ,1 lakh audio pieces sold in two days(2nd&3rd) :o
tmrrmt,
vidunga ivangalukku badhil solla vaendam namma thalai than paattulaye sollitarae....
yaela nee ettipo oram nee othipoannu :D
kurangu kayil poomalai kudukka koodathu,
kaluthaikku karpoora vaasanai theriyathunnu.... :D
Kamal kuduthirukka saathiyakkoorugaL kammi.Quote:
The audio is not available in the stores,from where did 'Coolgoose'get it,Kamal-e kudututtara,marketing-kku
en appan veengiya vaayOn (hanuman-kku thamizhaakkam idhu thaanE 'lena' thamizh vaaNan ayya?) thannai yaar enRu koori koLgiraarO andha peyarudaya maruththuvarin thondaradi(thadi) podigaLin vElayaaga kooda irukkum. yaar kaNdaa. Naama kEtta savukkadi vizhum maruththuvarayyavin maruththuva pudhalvar kEtta ettaNaa abaraadham thaan varum.
Sorry for the digression.
BTW 'yaela nee ettipo' songla vara antha dialogues nachunnu irukku, written by kamal i presume. akka paeru 'INBA' thangachi paeru 'SITRINBA' was very kool :) making me to expect full fledged satirical comedy like 'Charlie Chaplin' movies.
http://www.telugucinema.com/c/movies/mnapr32005.shtml
This news item says the audio of the telugu version of 'Mumbai Xpress'is being launched by Surya audio today.K.Vishwanath is the chief guest.So,can we hope the Tamil/Hindi version will also make it to the stores today.If it does not happen ,we will see the amusing thing of a dubbed version getting released b4 the original.
BTW, when you do a "File Info" from Winamp of these tamil mp3 files, it says
Title: CD Digital Audio, Track#4
Comment: Copyright SUN Music
Whenever the audio releases in Tamil, I am going to buy the CD for sure. It should be amazing to hear this kind of stuff from a CD. Its more than worth. I just wished it had more "Poo poothadhu..." kind of melodious numbers. Anyway...
Hope for the best.
Krishnan
Been listening to MX (Tamil) for quite a few times now.
Summary:
Liked "Yelay nee..." the very first time i heard it. Hip and catchy.
"Korangu kayyil..." needs a few listenings to come to terms with it. Stron jazz flavor.
"Poo poothathu.." is very melodious. Jazz again!
The themse music pieces are very very jazzy. We do have jazz present in a few of our Tamil and Hindi songs before. However, nothing quite like what maestro has done in MX.
One thing which stands out is how this man at his age makes such "hip" and modern music? Nothing like the borrowed beat loops or styles (latin american JLo with typical spanish guitar which Vidhya Sagar and co use). It's all original. Hope it won'tl go over the head of the Hindi audience and even our own audience.
Alwarpet andavan
alwarpet_andavan as you said, hope it does not go over the heads of the audience. BTW, guys here could be the reason why the audio is not released yet:
http://www.behindwoods.com/News/4-4-...s_censored.htm
I listen to a few of the songs. Right away, the tunes are ordinary. The Jazz interlude in "kurangu kayil" is pretty good, but the interludes dont jell well with the rest of the song and seem forced. Probably the songs were composed for situations and something is happening on screen for IR to compose such interludes, but listening to it just in audio there doesnt seem to be a flow in the songs as was present inn earlier "hip" efforts like Agni Natchathiram or Anjali etc. Rahman's "vaan nila tharum" had some wonderful sax pieces and the whole song had an uniform energetic flow to it.
Yelai nee etti po and Poo poothadhu are average by IR's standards.I had expected something like "nee paartha paarvaikoru andri" or "niram pirithu paarthen" but Poo poothadhu neither has a great tune nor the interludes compensating for it. Kamal mentioned that IR had recorded the start of some song (I believe poo poothadhu) in Hungary. I cant see any evidence of the presence of Hungarian orchestra in the 3 songs I heard. Synth-heavy stuff which could have been belted out by local talent like Viji Manuel. No presence of any real orchestra here.
BTW, Sonu Nigam could have been in place of Udit Narayan these past few years in TFM. He is infinitely better than the latter.
On the whole, the album is certainly different at places, in terms of feel, from the usual grinding-the-same-old-flour stuff that IR has been giving us the past few years. But thats about it.
Vijayr,
>>Yelai nee etti po and Poo poothadhu are average by IR's >>standards.I had expected something like "nee paartha paarvaikoru >>andri" or "niram pirithu paarthen" but Poo poothadhu neither has a >>great tune nor the interludes compensating for it
If you expected that, that's your problem. How can you expect a melody in place of a fast-paced number which the situation demands? Beats me!
>>Rahman's "vaan nila tharum" had some wonderful sax pieces and >>the whole song had an uniform energetic flow to it
Jazz!=Sax, however, that was a good jazz song by ARR
>>from the usual grinding-the-same-old-flour stuff that IR has been >>giving us the past few years
Wake up! Hey Ram, Virumaandi, Azhagi, Pithamagan, Ramana .... just to name a few in the recent past. What "grinding-the-same-flour stuff are you talking about?
We may disagree and hope you don't find my comments offensive.
IMO, MX is by far the movie which is most unlike anything seen in Indian film music hitherto.
alwarpet_andavan
Vijayr,
Moreover, jazz uses various instruments including double bass, drums, voice, piano, trumpet, horn, sax (sax and tenor sax), bass guitar, acoustic guitar, flamenco guitar and even electric guitar.
Listen to "Kurangu kayyil...", "Poo poothathu..." and the theme music. Definitely free-flowing jazz, and not contrived at all!
alwarpet_andavan
ilayarajavukkum kamalukkum yaravudhu thristi suthi podungappa.
"If you expected that, that's your problem. How can you expect a melody in place of a fast-paced number which the situation demands? Beats me! "
Alwarpet, how can you completely misread what I wrote? Beats me! Poo Poothadhu is supposed to be a melody, not a fast paced song. So what do you mean by I wrongly expected a melody?!!!
And I was talking about the tunes, which are pretty ordinary.
I already mentioned the interlude was good in one of the songs. But "yelei nee othipo" is a late 70s/early 80s kind of tune. Only the interludes are a little different.
Vijayr,
>Alwarpet, how can you completely misread what I wrote?
Sorry, my mistake :-)
About the tunes, i beg to differ. The more i listen to it, the better it sounds. That's the case with jazz. The patterns seem loose and "aimless", until you get used to the free-flowing nature of the patterns. Give yourself a few more listens, and you'll enjoy the ride, i'm sure :)
Regarding "yelaelo...", for IR, there's nothing like 70s-80s tune. He is a man who possesses an unbelievable "thaala-nyaanam", i.e, sense of rhythm. Check out how the percussion begins in a folk-style slow-beat and how later it transmogrifies into a stylish, hip modern rhythm. Goose-pimple stuff.
This album, is a shocker, no doubt.
alwarpet_andavan
alwarpet, yenpa purinjukka maatengareenga? The Jazz part you are talkiung about applies only to the interludes of Kurangu kayyil. I am NOT talking about the interludes, only the tune portion of the song. In Poo poothadhu neither the tune nor the interludes make it. There is no great Jazz presence here either.
"Regarding "yelaelo...", for IR, there's nothing like 70s-80s tune. He is a man who possesses an unbelievable "thaala-nyaanam", i.e, sense of rhythm. Check out how the percussion begins in a folk-style slow-beat and how later it transmogrifies into a stylish, hip modern rhythm. Goose-pimple stuff. "
Again nothing new. Even in earlier songs like "saandhu pottu"(devar magan) you can notice this rhythm pattern change in the course of a song. Raja kayya vachca is another example. Rajadhi raja un thandirangaL from Mannan is yet another example. And the "stylish hip modern rhythm" you are talking about in the latter part of the song has already been done by most new TFM MDs in these past few years. Synth stuff-nothing new. Looks like IR has tried hard to sound like the current generation MDs.
Vijayr,
Listening to "Poo poothathu..." as i'm typing this.
>>The Jazz part you are talkiung about applies only to the >>interludes of Kurangu kayyil. I am NOT talking about the >>interludes, only the tune portion of the song. In Poo poothadhu >>neither the tune nor the interludes make it
I completely disagree. Kurangu Kayyil is all jazz. So is the themse music, at least part1. And Poo Poothathu has strong jazz elements in it. Mixing Indian melody or folk with jazz doesn't mean there is no jazz at all in the song.
One more reason why you might feel there is no jazz except in the interlude is because in India, jazz is perceived to be just sax or trumpet. Piano, the way the drums are played, even bits of guitaring can say whether a tune hass jazz elements are not.
If you listen to the vocal jazz of the early years of jazz, you might find it different from jazz played by Miles Davis or John McLaughlin. Check out "Remembering Shakti - Live in Bombay", and this point will be clear.
And lastly, about your point that IR is trying to sound like other MDs is not worth replying to. Hence, i'm putting the matter to rest, from my side.
alwarpet_andavan
ME:
Music is good and to me it sounded IR has exprimented well with JAZZ.
I know you have always set high standards for IR and yes it should be so, I agree.
But to say that IR has tried to sound like other MDs is a big insult to IR. IR would have experimented to sound like others either to produce a 50s/60s type song, but It is hard for me to believe he would try to sound like current crop MDs.
This is purely IMHO
Bala
Are there any independent reviews (I do not like the idea of listening to a new album from coolgoose)...
after a couple of listenings...pretty good stuff from IR considering the fact that he is sick of film music...
Alwarpet_andavan, explain how the vocal/tune portion of Poo pothadhu is "vocal jazz"? Its just a plain ordinary IRish tune, no jazz to it. Kurangu Kayyil's interludes are the only areas where you sense some semblance of Jazz.
mumbai express songs available at
http://www.tamilmasala.net/Index01.htm
http://www.mau108.com
Some info on why MX audio is getting delayed !
http://etamil.blogspot.com/2005/04/blog-post_04.html
NagaS
NagaS,
enna veen purali kalpirrenga ....
apurum ungalukum Osama annanukum contact irukunnu BUSH mama kitta solliduven ...
I am surprised nobody has said anything about the vande maataram song... It has been TOTALLY butchered. I am sure this is for a supposedly comic scene in the movie, but still it is not not an excuse to butcher our national song like this.
I know I am going to get flamed but sorry to say this, I never expected this from IR!
Dude ,
I totally agree ..I have posted the same in KamalHassan groups ...
I never expected this from kamal Hassan and IR !!!!
Thrilled by the JAZZ ,i forgot this point !!!!
Adding ...
Censor has refused this song to be included in the movie !! Kamal is re-shooting this song !!!
well, as an antidote, you can listen to "vande maataram" from Saaza-e-kaalapani by IR. Now that's some inspiring music. Dont listen to Mano's hapless Tamil version.
You can not conclude anythign prior to seeing the movie. I also was pissed off listening to the song, but this is a song that the young boy sing in the school and while singing the song he was making some some jokes/playing with other kids - which is quite normal. If you havent done that in your kiddish days, then you missed your kiddish days. Infact I liked this bit song well at the end, because after singing this like kiddish, the end was more serious and I felt that was a better tune for vandematharam than the current tune that we all hear in AIR.Quote:
Originally Posted by dude
Kamal is not shooting or anything for Vandematharam. ME got censor clearance with U certificate.
Regarding the news about why the audio is not released (click here http://etamil.blogspot.com/2005/04/blog-post_04.html), I am not at all surprised, because for Virumandi Kamal asked 200,000 for releasing all over USA, saying that it is in no way worst than Baba and if you are ready to give 200,000 to baba, why not for my film.
Kamal has to understand something, he doesnt have the same market as Rajini. Period. This is more true after Aalavandan & Hey Ram. Anbe sivam is a good movie, but in NJ only 500 ppl turned for the show. For Baba, first show itself had 1200 people in NJ. Even for Vasool Raja, we had only 125 ppl in NJ in the first show and 7 ppl on second day. So Kamals market is different than Rajini and he can not quote the same price.
Now, regarding Chandramukhi, copy right for NJ itself is 20000, and mumbai xpress is 12500 (reasonable), but this time who ever release ME will make more money than CM because Baba had a big -ve impact on Rajini films and ppl wont drive from different state (which they did for Baba) and get disappinted.
Now since both Kamal and IR doesnt have audio market (rajini, ARR and YSR has audio market), they have to price the product little less.
BTW, I dont know why ppl think it has only 4 songs!
An excellent album that is filled with full of suprises & quality stuff....! To say the least :-)
Overall - Nambha Mottai Kalakidichu ;-)
kbee ,
Unlike Anbe SIvam ,Mumbai Express is a bi lingual ..SO the number of viewers will be more ;)
I feel the album is different and of good quality. I felt disappointed when I heard for the first time. But, it kinda grows on you and it has some surprises. It is a album for the movie rather than otherwise. That way is thoroughly enjoyable and will make a great impact when we watch the movie. I dont know why 4 songs is an issue and why the theme music is not mentioned anywhere here. I think they are more than theme music ... seems like more of a bg score collection. It sounds great. Already can visualise some of the movie wth this score but IR might have some surprises there. This is quite different from songs with commercially available loop which we are presented with by many MDs. I think this is a must buy album just for the usage of instruments and composition.
Completely agree. Hope they will resolve the price issue and release the CD soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by vatsa400
Like Hey Ram... just teasing. I am sure this will movie will rock. Now that it is almost out, I am now eagerly waiting for Kamal-Gautam movie. Hope its not a remake of CopLand movie (story line was similar)Quote:
Originally Posted by MumbaiRamki
Hi folks,
How does audio of MX compare with that of CM.
Better or Worse.
Cine Fan
Vatsa,
ive written about the theme music a couple oF pages back. probably you missed it!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
CM has mass songs - old VS
ME is trendy and new - new IR
no comparison please
Dude,
its Quiet normal for the kids to make fun of national songs and anthems as Kbee said. Its only after when we grow up we understand the meaning of nation etc.,Quote:
Originally Posted by dude
Till then its only 'Vandhemaatharam varudhae moo...am' or 'janaganamangadhi keezha vuluntha enna gadhi' :D
So there is nothing wrong in kamal and IR butchering this songs as the scene would ve demanded.
Vijayr
Quote:
Originally Posted by vijayr
You got the habit of liking IR compostions after some time and ARR's compostiion immtly. You are indeed different As its IR's songs which catch immtly and its ARR's songs which grow on people :wink: you said the same about Pithamgan and Virumaandi at the beggining now it seems you ve changed your opinion about them in some other thread. I know youll say MX was one of IR's best in a couple of years from now :DQuote:
Originally Posted by vijayr