+1... money inflation ipo month by month poi, day by day aatchu...Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
antha kaalathulaye USV movie pala crore vasool pannutchame....
+1... money inflation ipo month by month poi, day by day aatchu...Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
antha kaalathulaye USV movie pala crore vasool pannutchame....
Joe, Adjusting to Inflation shud be done for all movies. For that, 1st, there shud be some credible information about Box office Collection. Also, it shud also be adjusted to Population rise. But that doesn't make the above listed movies, and their records as non sense. They surely make sense.
Aravind, the talk is not at all about profit, shares of Producer-Distributor-Exibitor etc, but only about Total Collection, which indicated the max no of tickets sold for a particular movie.
TA, on that DeepaavaLi, the more profitable movie was neither Guna nor Thalapathy but Bramma which ran well!
Joe, if you say that the yesteryear movies made more or equal collection percentage, then why not limit the comparison only there? Even the age also shud be considered no? In age of 50+, what was the collection/hit rate of NT/MT compared to Kamal/Rajini?
Actually there are lots of other factors even in current scenario. For example, Vijay/Ajith/Surya movies too run well and they too get salaries in range of 15+ Cr. This shud be compared to what kind of Box office impact did the stars like Jayashankar/Muthuraman/Gemini Ganesan etc had. Becos, we cannot consider Kamal/Rajini as retired, for atleast some 3/4 years from now!
Their record in collection makes sense ,but list like this in the name of 'All time highest collection' just by Rupee figure doesn't make sense , atleast for me .Quote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
What to do?! We don't have a exhaustive list containing films of all age! Poor documentation :)
Point taken....Quote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Sakala,
Simple question ..Do you think Sakalakalavallavan or Thoogathe thampi thoogathe collection is less than vettaiyadu Vilayadu , which is in the list?
joe,
avlo worthaana discussionae illai idhu... freeyaa vidunga... sakala... ungalukkumdhaan...
:)Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
sakala've idhai oththukkamattengumpodhu..
ini Surya - karthi rasigargal ellam oththukkave mattanga..
Inflation padi paartha, SKV wil be more than VV..Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
Let be 100 rs for SKV = 10000 rs for VV (for ex. )
adhukkilla softu.. idhai thelivu paduthanum..Quote:
Originally Posted by SoftSword
illaina 10 varusathukku munnadi irundhavanga ellam nadigargale illaingra madhiriyum.. ippa opening week cross aanadhum ella padamum vasool mazhai pozhiyura madhiriyum oru build up kudukka aarambichuduvanga..
ungalukku prachanai illai.. ippavum irukeenga.. eppavum irupeenga..
sakala should have listened about "andhra market" thing said in saguni audio release function
Inflation padi paartha, SKV wil be more than VV..Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
Let be 100 rs for SKV = 10000 rs for VV (for ex. )
Talking about box office, I'd like to ask this question to the other Kamal fans here. Am I the only person who finds it extremely tough to convince someone from the general public that Dasavatharam was NOT a box office disaster? I mean, they don't just call it a flop. It is termed disaster by at least 7 out of 10 people I talk to(idhu south. In case of north indies, it is worse - 10/10). Forums, blogs, coffee time chats - its the same everywhere. Forget making them believe that it was a genuine blockbuster. The moment I say it made a huge profit, I am being mocked at. Appidi indha padam enna paavam senjuchu therila. If one person talks about Vishwaroopam, the very first comment we hear is - Let this not become a dud like Dasavatharam. Ippove ippidinna future'la nelama mosama thaan irukkum :-(
Did they confuse with Soorasamhaaram ? :lol:
hattori annE.. same experience..
I think these guys have no idea about BO ,but just showing 'Dasavatharam' -lam enga range-kku jujubee -nra maathiri peela vidura pretending world movie watchers :lol:
Illa Joe. Inga 'they' enbadhu oru chinna vattam kedaiyaadhu. Neutral non-hubbergal nu sollalaam. This never happened to Thevar Magan, Ab.Sago or any other big movie. These people club Dasa with Alavandhaan, Anbey Sivam & Hey Ram when they talk about KH's high-on-hype-low-on-returns movies. IMO, Aascar, media and Kamal himself are to be blamed for this 'bimbam'.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
I reflect the same opinion. There was no hype about its success. Was Nammavar not interested in celbrating the success? Confusing !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by hattori_hanzo
naan idhai pudhusaa kelvi padraen...
enakku therinjavarai everyone is aware that its a big success and rave about it... paattheengalaa... ennoda circle ellaam degent..
Don't make me angry your honour ..
I've had the same experiences...Box Office collectionsa pathi sonna avanga total turnover kammi thaannu solittu poidranga.....Quote:
Originally Posted by hattori_hanzo
1) Nammavar not celebrating - Even if there was no tiff btw Aascar Ravichandran and Kamal, generally Heroes don't directly do anything to publisize or celebrate a movie's success. But Ravichandran gave hell a lot of Ads and Interviews pointing out its collection. Not sure if Sun Pictures CEO gave an interview to a reputed daily like Economic Times, openly indicating the figures.Quote:
Originally Posted by pushpak
2) Hyping shud be done by Producer and Media. For Dasavatharam, Producer didn't do the 1st one. Media agreed to certain extent that it broke ALL records. Only God shud answer why it was NOT hyped by Media. Dasavatharam is a **rare** Blockcuster where there was not a single loss report.
Some stupid Kamal fans are to blame .. why do you trust upon your correct statements on ignorant fools .. those fools will only think we are trying to sell something unreal .. the more we try, the worse it gets .. hence stop this discussion ..
3) When Udayanidhi Stalin **skipped** Dasavatharam from the 2nd biggest Blockbuster list when advertising about 7nth Sense, at some point, this matter was informed to Thalaiver, by some Saga fans and Thalaiver expressed his refusal and anger to them.
4) Kamal reportedly told to a Sun TV reporter, which was video recorded, but reportedly not telecasted(?) that Dasavatharam broke ALL records.
5) The 1st official info that Dasavatharam collected 250+ Crores came via 2 Articles from Economic Times & Hindu.
http://m.economictimes.com/PDAET/art...64,curpg-1.cms
As he draws gently into his cup of tea, Kamal Haasan displays a composed look. His last movie to hit the screens, Dasavatharam, that was released nearly a year ago, set the cash registers ringing and Haasan's satisfaction with its success is evident. "It was made with budgets that were unheard of in the Tamil film industry and it made four times the kind of money that was possible," he says matter-of-factly of the movie that cost producer, Oscar Ravichandran Rs 60 crore and is said to have raked in over Rs 200 crore with a Hindi version ready for release.
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus...0904102111.htm
It has been almost an year since Kamal has faced the camera after completing the shooting of the block buster Dasavathaaram, which raked in more than Rs 250 crore worldwide.
Kamal Haasan Inaugurates S2 Theatre Complex
www.youtube.com/watch?&v=ApJP9uv6Tm4
//SAKALA..rumour aired tat unga hub id name la surya remake panna poraram... :fatigue:
I guess it is official
http://tamil.oneindia.in/movies/news...la-156284.html
இப்படத்தின் ரீமேக்கில் நடிக்க சூர்யா விருப்பம் தெரிவித்திருந்தார். இதைத் தொடர்ந்து இப்படத்தை தாங்களே ரீமேக் செய்வதாக ஏவிஎம் அறிவித்துள்ளது.
இதுபற்றி அதிகாரப்பூர்வமாக செய்தி வெளியிட்டுள்ளனர் ஏவிஎம் நிறுவனத்தினர்.
Btw, I am sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar :wink:
//dig-- y ur id is sakaLAKALAKAlaa instead of sakalakala... ?
Kamal was Sakalakalaa vallavan when that movie released. now he is Master of all Arts and the expertise has grown up in many no of fields. So, for each talent, we shud add a Laka so that it becomes LakaLakaLakaLaka (growing.....) So to cut short it, and also following hub's limit in naming, i have added one extra LAKA and thus it is!
Itntha info ellaam hub Varalaaru :lol: MunnOdi gaLukku mattum theriyum!
//apo hub id la Rajni punch dialogue um olinjirukku nu sollunga... :rolleyes:
What a shame.. It will be an utter flop
once before i read, Ajith wanted to remake Thee & SKV also.. while doing Billa-IQuote:
Originally Posted by Anban
ippathan indha extra LAKALAKA's parkkuren...Quote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Anban, I do not think there is anything stupid in thrusting the facts. "fanboy fights"oda fundamental rule adhu dhaane? However, if someone says Thevar Magan flopped, he can probably be(with an easy majority) branded an 'ignorant fool'. In the case of Dasa, the general public simply refuses to believe that it ranks among the biggest BO winners in TFI. It is now 4 years since the movie released. Other than those 2 articles in TOI and The Hindu and the Kumudam edition posted by Sakala, has anybody else acknowledged these collection figures? Our very own producers like US try to hide Dasa's records and he was able to make his so called 'fact' reach the masses. Imagine what would have happened had he replaced any of the other two movies in the list with 7am Arivu?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anban
This is just my polambal & I know this discussion will not go anywhere. Now that KH is in 'NI' limelight again, I sincerely hope the success of VR will bring to light the records of Dasa too, or at least help this movie do away with that tag.
Hatori, to answer only onle line of ur post, this one -> "the general public simply refuses to believe that it ranks among the biggest BO winners in TFI. "
One major but important change which most of us aren't aware. Those are days where 100th day posters, Siver Jubilee Functions, etc were benchmarks. Nowadays, who reads dailies like Dhinathanthi which gets maximum no of Cine Ads?! Also who looks for posters?
Nowadays, info flows from Internet to (Offline)Public. Even Info is 1st released to Net, than the normal offiline medium. Trailers reach youtube before Theaters. So, once if somebody is present on web, (Orkut/Facebook.Twitter, forums, ect) and even check emails! (friends send a load of crap and great emails such that even real good ones looks crap!) Thankfully nowadays that craps get to facebook straight!
Even the Production houses releases movie launch info on net and that reaches ppl much before the next day Dhina THanthi or Hindu or Maalai malar etc. Satellite Channels don't have this instant thing at all ehwn it comes to Cinema becos of their own nature. Unless something big(probably deaths!) happen, they don't put flash line news for each adn every Cine news item!
So, Online is the only way to go! (Maybe we can say there is no one single place to track ONLY these news, even Wikipedia is not one such. It has loads of stories. such thing is not available.)
But to answer ur rest of the thing, i would ask, what shud have been done by the Dasa Producer and Kamal? Then, what different, did other blockbusters, like endhiran producers did to highilight the fact? News coming in Kalaigner TV, Sun TV, Dinakaran, Sooriyan FM, Vikatan group ( :wink: ) etc cannot be considered!
And reg Dasa, there is no single loss report from anybody. Also, there were news about its record breaking, in some medias like Ananda Vikatan Etc.
logic does not work here .. so much persuasion for what?Quote:
Originally Posted by hattori_hanzo
For dasa the Hindi version damaged its reputation a lot and media have no support
small digression: reg Kamal-Rajini films poster plus abhishekam culture etc etc - how were things back during the days of MGR-Sivaji ?? did they have such passionate following as well, from the older generation - with ppl taking time to indulge in 'festivities' as well ??
most times we learn from our elders
Kamal visited in our area to opens a new theatre Name S2 a satyam group theatre:
https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/im...C3cD5ZfJiTt_tghttps://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/im...AEg_4c_3K96U0Lhttps://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/im...eT6KeMpEfWhbaQhttps://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/im...l7FJVBGIH8cU8whttps://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/im...8cWWJWRz6kACq4