Poker scene.. Would have watched minimum 25 times..Quote:
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Poker scene.. Would have watched minimum 25 times..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.GreyShirt
Good to hear... I watched skyfall on opening day in NYC regal cinemas near 42 second street....expecting big in spectre... Craig is one of my favorites ....Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
It is supposed to be biggest hit amongst bond movie over here .. Not sure about other parts of the globe though..Quote:
Originally Posted by Avadi to America
http://www.theguardian.com/film/film...cord-disappear
Spectre
If you are a fan of James Bond, Spectre will leave you disappointed and flabbergasted.
Bond is known for his wit and one-liners but here there are only lame come-backs. M for moron and C for careless.... I felt like puking.
Another trademark - Bond girl..... less said the better. Sigh
As an action movie, it's ok. But for a Bond movie, it's neither stirring or shaken.
Go with low expectations
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Originally Posted by NOV
NOV - have you read Ian Fleming's versions/depiction of James Bond?
Taking out Sean Connery - the other Bonds that came closest to how Ian Fleming described him were/are - Daniel Craig, Timothy Dalton, Lazensby - in that order.
It is a different thing that we were all lulled into the caricaturing of a serious spy during the Roger Moore years..
Sam Mendes is now giving a more grittier Bond in keeping with the times.
I have not seen Spectre (yet) - but Casino Royale made Bond human, and Skyfall made Bond weak and capable of mistakes - even more human!
Its a far cry from the silly double entendres of the Roger Moore films
Yes I have... since my teens - used to save money and buy the whole collection from Casino Royale onwards. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
Agree with you on both Sean Connery and Roger Moore. Loved Casino Royale which kept faithfully to the book.... Craig was awesome!
But Spectre is politically-correct and thus the spirit of Bond is destroyed. :(
Ian Fleming's Bond is only Sean Connery.
While the rest are 'as' James Bond, Sean Connery 'is' James Bond ...
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Originally Posted by irir123
Daniel Craig - Too muscular to fit the profile of a spy as depicted by IF.
Timothy Dalton - Looks too nice and does not have the ruthlessness required to be spy.
George Lazenby - Somewhat acceptable
I enjoyed Roger Moore but will not compare with Sean Connery for James Bond as pictured by IF.
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Originally Posted by bill4u
:shock: He is the smallest James Bond actor ever .
Next on the list to watch "The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 2" :p
Agree.. this has been the case for a long time... Naomie Harris is much better than these so called "Bond girls" spectre / skyfallQuote:
Originally Posted by NOV
I'm not talking about his height if thats what you mean .. His musculature is a bit more for a spy imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
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Originally Posted by bill4u
Ok, I thought so, but IIRC, he was possibly the only 007 to be referred as "Physical / Old wreck" in bond movies (skyfall/Spectre) :)
http://www.justcausemag.com/wp-conte...craig-body.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Hmm ..Not sure about him being a "Physical / Old wreck". I think he's the most well built amongst other Bonds :)
His workouts ..
http://www.menshealth.com/fitness/workout-daniel-craig
yOv,
Oru Gilma photo va podumaiya j/k :yessir:
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I disagree with you completely on Timothy Dalton - he is the only actor, who read IF's books, internalizing the Bond character - kind of method acting - and combined that with his vast experience in theater - and portrayed the sensitivity of Bond, which am afraid, even Sean Connery rarely displayed onscreen - watch particularly from 1:10 onwards here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSyk0jmBx6s
"I owe it to Leiter" - Dalton does with sensitivity - deeply hurt by his friend's death/murder - at 1:59, he responds to his boss's intructions with a pause, looking at him in the eye, draws a breath and says "then you have my resignation sir" - pain, hurt and anger all in that voice and face - yet - his wry sense of humor comes out with a smile "Then I guess its a farewell to arms" - before making good his escape - class acting.
Daniel Craig - in Casino Royale, a young Bond, with all his sensitivity intact - when he learns of his girlfriend's betrayal - and later his guilt to learn of her possible innocence - all turning into seething anger at himself - leading to him becoming the ruthless Bond - class act.
Lazensby "OHMSS" was one of the best Bond films - critically acclaimed.
Roger Moore's Bond became a parody - not RM's fault - thats the way the production house went about with Bond films - from what I have read, they had to resort to some very silly things to compete with the rising stars George Lucas, Steven Spielberg et al..
Reg. Timothy Dalton, I was just going by his appearance and not his act or preparation and thats what I mention .. He looks like a nice guy and friendly as compared with SC which I dont expect a 007 to be just a 007 being a fitness enthusiast. I'm not disputing you on his theater experience or his methodical acting.
Unfortunately Sean Connery set a yard stick on James Bond both in terms of looks and character portrayal of IF which is deeply etched in the psyche of people .. with his Dr. No, From Russia with Love, Diamonds are Forever, Thunder Ball and so forth. When RM came on board, most of that gen audience thought the original Bond is gone and didn't think of RM seriously enough. George Lazenby was fine but brief ... and didnt stay long enough to set an impression.
You just stole my words... I remember watching Golden eye in AVM rajeshwari in 1995 and was highly disappointed and lost interest for sometime... it's DC who brought me back in to the franchise...I have big expectation on Christoph waltz too.Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
In 70s' Clint Eastwood was also in the consideration to play bond character...
Before Daniel Craig, Russel crowe was almost close in nomination for Bond.Evn Huge Jackmman was also consideredQuote:
Originally Posted by Avadi to America
Drug case,Aussie and many factors took him away....
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Originally Posted by bill4u
I maintained "apart" from the original Bond, Sean Connery...
Amongst the rest I said TD was the best, followed by DC - muscular and several days stubble et al keeping with the rugged times
when DC ventured into Bond world, I along with my Anglo Saxons friends thought, he lacked the 007 charisma/Personality..but he has indeed changed the stereotypical image, and introduced an image "that Bond is human too", in his films like Skyfall / Spectre.
Spectre opening scene was "spectacular" while Sky fall's climax was awesome !
Well I have a different perspective and appraoch towards the Bond created by Ian Flemings, after reading the 14 novels and the series of Bond Short Stories and watching every single Bond Film.
Bond is a normal man, maybe someone below than normal but who goes on and gets anything and everything moveable and immovable. When the author started with Bond, he wanted him to get the girls easily and named them strikingly normal with a lot of humour - from Honey Ryder to Pussy Galore to Octopussy. Plus, Flemings gave Bond the triats that he wished to hold when he was in the Naval. Actually Bond was is Naval before joining MI6. And 007 was inspired from John Dee, the 16th century advisory to the Queen. Dee used to sign his letter/notes to the queen '007' (meaning 'For your (Queen's) eyes only).
None of the movies were sincere to the book. Here are a couple of them :
1/ Gin + Vodka + White wine (Known as Vesper Cocktail) => Bond Drink.
Duing Dr.No, Smirnoff signed a promotional contract with the producers and presuaded them to remove the 'Gin'. From then, none of Bond movies shows him having Gin
2/ Bond's favourite card game is Baccarat. Casino Royal (Original) & couple other in the Bond series sees him playing this game. But in the upgraded version on Casino Royale (2006) they play Texas Hold 'Em.
(And Bond has a child ... ha ha, that the movies try to hide !)
The point was never how true the adaptation should be, but how well it was adapted each time differing itself with time leaping around for 50 years now. And Daniel Craig is younger than the series itself. While conceiving the project Dr. No, the makers wanted a face, that suited the character description of the author (who worte the character keeping in mind his own brother). (I do not wish to go into the origins/skin colour as it does not interest me). They looked for a new face which was yet to be seen in such roles for the sterotyped audience. Sean Connery was signed when he was known as the actor from Walt Disney's Darby O'Gill and the Little People (LoL). And I also wish to precise that Ian Fleming wanted a very normal name to his character and when he heard another author's name 'James Bond', he immediately took it in for any reason other than noble & good.
The Bond series was rejuvenated several time with lot of contemporary ideas, but Bond always lived the same. As I have already mentioned in the Foreign Film Thread, our period can be coined as the Dark Age of Superheroes. People have enlarged their thoughts, in the process shrank to relate anything and everything with reality. Can Superman Cry ? Yes he can ! Can Batman be defeated ? Oh Yeah. The Dark Age of Comics took a great toll over the taste of the movie goers, that they even killed Batman ! So Bond underwent such a change, but still never modified. Bond and his films are still very humouristic.
There is so much to talk about Bond, his romance, the action, evolution, etc ..., maybe sometime later I will let you know what I think about the various actors who starred as Bond, under what circumstances, the reception of the films, the failures and the decision to walk away. And you got to add Gerard Butler to that list. For the records, the first actor who featured as James Bond is Barry Nelson => 1954 American TV Episode called Climax! which was the adaptaion of Casino Roayle.
Barry Nelson From Climax!
http://www.007james.com/i/articles/w...rry_nelson.jpg
In the meantime, introduce yourself to Nick Carter, an awesome US Spy who lived during the same time as Bond, and he got more girls than James !
On the lighter side, My Parents used to say that "Jai Shankar" used to do spy related movies in the late 60's and 70s,' and he was regarded as the James Bond of Tamil cinema is this true ?
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Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Jai Shankar's was perfect as TN cinema's Bond! even though those films were intentionally hilarious!
btw, MGR's 'deiva thaai' had sequences lifted from Dr. No!
Can you please tell me few of those movies, would like to see some of them ?, thanks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
mappi - Jude Law, Clive Owen - add them to the list - as serious contenders as probable Bonds, and finally DC was chosen!
Spectre - is a very classy Bond - we get to know how Henry Blofeld was 'created' and his connection to Bond himself - wow! Bond is even more human here - Q, M and Money Penny all get important screen presence..
My pet peeve is Christoph Waltz was not given more screen time - one of the more suave, sophisticated bad guys..
I see that the Bond franchise needs to compete with films like those of Christopher Nolan that have already created a huge fan base - Nolan imbibes the human element so well even in his superhero Batman films - and if Bond was any less grittier, the franchise would not have regained the fan base.
Yes, irir123, Bond films always competed with the decades or generation of filmmakers, critics & audience, but always emerged to become a cult, thanks to the loyal Bond Fans like us and the awesome film makers who push to throw in various dimensions to the series.
I have not yet watched Spectre, will be catching it avant prémiere on 9th (Releasing on 10th here). As you/A2A have mentioned, my catch this time would be Christoph Waltz too : "It was me, James, the author of all your pain"
@param, how was spectre, planning to watch this weekend.
If you guys are talking about Bond movies then you gotta talk about the credit music. How was the Spectre's music?
thanks, Mexicomeat :)