IR's New albums - Ver 2008

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30th July 2008, 06:23 PM
popeye11

IR is back to his style of orchestration. NICE .. :) Its is amazing to listen to the usage of Violins and Flute in Unakulle. Kannakuku is awesome.
Eventhough ulagam sounds annoying with the female volcals, the interludes are very good as someone mentioned here its surprising IR has used the raaga.com loop and the similar kinda string usage as yuvan did in "AMAV" Oh Baby is that jsut me .. wat do ya'll think.
Neveretheless, It gives me strong hope that IR is coming back with a bang with his "Style" of music which all of us are yearing for all these days! Verdict, except Dhanam Dhanam all songs are listenable. Not a bad album afterall.
30th July 2008, 06:24 PM
MrJudge

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Originally Posted by Hulkster

Its not that..its just that people here decipher raja's songs like other MDs. The true fact till this day is that all his songs have been enriched by the feel of his orchestration and understanding of the situation. You cant expect a anandha raagam like tune or pothi vecha malligai tune for the situations in dhanam....

Hulkster,

anantha ragam, poththi vachcha are the best orchestrated songs of those times, the 'sounds' were cool when they got released. But his usuage of synths nowadays has been a big let down for his fans. Because we are exposed to cool 'sounds' from other MDs. I assume the problem is IR so accustomed with his composing technique that is best fit for manual orchestra. He still has not found his territory in synths. My wish is he should experiment with atleast one song recorded and orchestrated by Yuvan and composed by him. Then he will understand the difference, until then he is going to follow the same style.

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30th July 2008, 06:27 PM
MrJudge

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Originally Posted by popeye11

its surprising IR has used the raaga.com loop and the similar kinda string usage as yuvan did in "AMAV" Oh Baby is that jsut me .. wat do ya'll think.

Yes, one in the first interlude and another in the second interlude. I was shocked :shock:
30th July 2008, 06:32 PM
Hulkster

But i dunt see any predominant synth in this album though except for certain parts in dhanam which spoils the song. And isnt the orchestration in this album only "raja-passible"? The reason i felt so excited is because of the orchestration and the overall backgrounds.

Anyway as for him using synths it depends...he will only go back to manual orchestra if the film truly needs it like twinkle twinkle little star's bgm or maybe pazhassi raja. Otherwise he does not care much like how we did not give a damn for his mumbai express and i dunt think we deserve it. :exactly:
30th July 2008, 06:33 PM
popeye11

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Originally Posted by krish244

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BTW, I loved that "Mona...enakkum number kuduma" advertisement in galatta.com

loved?? :shock: irritating before every song starts, there is no forward button also :evil:

Yes, I got irritated too, but as there was no forward button, I had no choice but to love it :).

Krishnan

They used to have a forward button earlier.. they have removed it now..Dang it, it was horrible listening to the "Enakum Number kuduma" Vaayla asingama varuthu.. :hammer: :angry2: enna panrathu.. IR in paatai rasika, indha kodumai ellam thaanga vendi iruku..
30th July 2008, 06:44 PM
MrJudge

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Originally Posted by popeye11

They used to have a forward button earlier.. they have removed it now..Dang it, it was horrible listening to the "Enakum Number kuduma" Vaayla asingama varuthu.. :hammer: :angry2: enna panrathu.. IR in paatai rasika, indha kodumai ellam thaanga vendi iruku..

Yeah me too frustrated. But now Raaga.com has it and the quality also good, maranthum galatta.com visit kidayaathu :D
30th July 2008, 06:48 PM
popeye11

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Originally Posted by MrJudge

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Originally Posted by popeye11

They used to have a forward button earlier.. they have removed it now..Dang it, it was horrible listening to the "Enakum Number kuduma" Vaayla asingama varuthu.. :hammer: :angry2: enna panrathu.. IR in paatai rasika, indha kodumai ellam thaanga vendi iruku..

Yeah me too frustrated. But now Raaga.com has it and the quality also good, maranthum galatta.com visit kidayaathu :D

Super~

Cant wait to hear the songs in CD quality. Iam sure it will sound a lot better.
30th July 2008, 07:10 PM
MrJudge

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Originally Posted by Hulkster

But i dunt see any predominant synth in this album though except for certain parts in dhanam which spoils the song. And isnt the orchestration in this album only "raja-passible"? The reason i felt so excited is because of the orchestration and the overall backgrounds.

Come on, all of the songs have synth usage.

My point is when he was at the top, his songs had both, orchestration and cool sounds (way above from his contemporaries), but now even though his orchestration is good, he loses mainly because of the sounds he selects. I think people will sit and enjoy if his does with cool sounds. The music environment is different now, he needs to force himself to change things around. Or someone close to him (like KR/YSR) should explain to him. I think KR is also into this synth trap.

So having one IR version and one YSR mix in an IR album will be good to test that. :)
30th July 2008, 08:25 PM
irir123

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Originally Posted by Hulkster

Negative reviews but mostly in preference order and as usual none can understand the orchestration. The same thing happened for the best album in recent times by the name of mumbai express when loads of people thought the fast-paced jazz number yeley nee yettipo was some immature attempt at synth :banghead:

Well i guess the final nail was for mumbai express...after that we are certainly not worthy of listening to anything else and i should not have even raised the decibel for this album after some people looked at the trailer and said it reeks of ordinary numbers. :angry:

Hulkster - am :banghead: :angry2: for comparing Mumbai Xpress with Dhanam - Mumbai Xpress is a class act, a perfect example of how LIVE Jazz would sound with minimalist Indian classical (minimalism is what IR so good at - he can dilute any raagam without losing the raagam's original identity) elements - "kurangu kaiyyil" is jazz at its best with unconventional lyrics and song structure both of which were completely complemented by hardcore jazz, while "poo poothadhu" was the icing on the cake - this song is an evergreen melody for the ages!

Dhanam just does not fall into that category at all - maybe the Kamal factor extracted the best out of IR in Mumbai Xpress with a strong/adamant emphasis/demand for live jazz instruments
30th July 2008, 08:32 PM
irir123

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Originally Posted by raja_fan

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after reading the many reviews here, I almost expected another pathbreaking album like AGNI NATCHATIRAM,

Sorry ! Neenga endha kaalathil irukkeenga ?? Inime adhellaam nadakkira kaariyamaa ...

if Mumbai Xpress can happen, which WAS/IS a pathbreaking album in Indian cinema for the use of LIVE JAZZ, why should I not expect another pathbreaking album from IR ??

donno why IR is breaking hearts like mine little by little, instead of going back to what he is best - creative melodic usage with rhythms that make you sit up and listen

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