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Originally Posted by interz

What is the deal with showing the Mukesh part before each movies, do they want ppl to puke before the movie? or after the movie?

People are not gonna smoke more or less because of some scenes in cinema, Its their individual choice.

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awareness...
i think u know that cine stars have influenced many youngsters to start smoking.. may not be now, but couple of decades ago..

because of this, atleast 1% of people may quit smoking / chewing tobacco out of fear..

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Originally Posted by interz

What is the deal with showing the Mukesh part before each movies, do they want ppl to puke before the movie? or after the movie?

People are not gonna smoke more or less because of some scenes in cinema, Its their individual choice.

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There could be a handful who could change their minds. We just cannot generalize that it wont make any impact. If not the adults it could possibly refrain the impressionable kids from taking up tobacco later in their life.

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Originally Posted by HonestRaj

awareness...
i think u know that cine stars have influenced many youngsters to start smoking.. may not be now, but couple of decades ago..

because of this, atleast 1% of people may quit smoking / chewing tobacco out of fear..

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either you should know what you are talking or talk what you know , (pl stop this two decades ago BS).

Aanestu thambi. ITC , Wills , Berkeley (most of these companies where started by British Empire for exporting quality Tobacco), Sher Chhap, Ganesh brand bedis (poor man's cigarette) its embedded in our culture much before Indian cinema started showing them. India is second highest producer / exporter of Tobacco in the world. It grew several folds after Indian independence. If Movies alone can influence normal public, than we wouldn't be dealing with the highest % of STD and STD related deaths.

Whatever people (politicians / business tycoons) are trying to do today, is pure gimmicks to avoid more public scrutiny (and keep current smart ass generation on Tab) . So that guys like Dumbass Doctor who asked Movie stars not to smoke and drink, but dance with half naked item chick in the name of social awareness can be hailed as white knight.

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Originally Posted by Dilbert

either you should know what you are talking or talk what you know , (pl stop this two decades ago BS).

Aanestu thambi. ITC , Wills , Berkeley (most of these companies where started by British Empire for exporting quality Tobacco), Sher Chhap, Ganesh brand bedis (poor man's cigarette) its embedded in our culture much before Indian cinema started showing them. India is second highest producer / exporter of Tobacco in the world. It grew several folds after Indian independence. If Movies alone can influence normal public, than we wouldn't be dealing with the highest % of STD and STD related deaths.

Whatever people (politicians / business tycoons) are trying to do today, is pure gimmicks to avoid more public scrutiny (and keep current smart ass generation on Tab) . So that guys like Dumbass Doctor who asked Movie stars not to smoke and drink, but dance with half naked item chick in the name of social awareness can be hailed as white knight.

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less tension more work..
unmaiya illaiya.. avlothan pechu..
mukesh venuma vendama..

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Originally Posted by HonestRaj

less tension more work..
unmaiya illaiya.. avlothan pechu..
mukesh venuma vendama..

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Yedu unmaiya sir ? Ban the root cause i.e., growing tobacco , if you are serious about stopping people falling for this addiction. When even in developed country like US this is becoming an unsolvable issue. India's mukesh bhai ad is nothing more then adding lipstick to a pig (addiction) It will still remain a PIG. I bet our good souls would be smoking outside when they run this ad in theater.

so bottomline ,If you wan to run this ad , run it everywhere including TV channels, inbetween matches, serials and other places.

And pl never again bring up crap like 2 decades ago movie actors influenced smoking.

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Originally Posted by HonestRaj

awareness...
i think u know that cine stars have influenced many youngsters to start smoking.. may not be now, but couple of decades ago..

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+1. During my school days, many of my school mates got influenced and used to do this as "style"

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Originally Posted by Cinemarasigan

+1. During my school days, many of my school mates got influenced and used to do this as "style"

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:sigh2: Current smartass generation does it for special farts ? Got influenced by whom? looking at Movie stars or looking at their own father, uncles, neighbors, friends , peer pressure ?
just like every other debates, its meaningless to argue, when you don't have facts. This is the very reason why we are still struggling to solve key social issues in India. People rarely own up their responsibilities

If you guys think you are so smart , show me the data ,which shows movies alone as the key influencer. If you don't have it, its better if we refrain from making movies alone as the target.

It was never the case 2 decades ago nor it is now.

Not sure if these guys are as smart as you expect, and also if you would accept this, since these are surveys conducted in western countries
For drinking [From http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/2/1/e...en_current_tab]

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Originally Posted by BMJOPEN

Abstract

Objective To compare media/marketing exposures and family factors in predicting adolescent alcohol use.

Design Cohort study.

Setting Confidential telephone survey of adolescents in their homes.

Participants Representative sample of 6522 US adolescents, aged 10–14 years at baseline and surveyed four times over 2 years.

Primary outcome measure Time to alcohol onset and progression to binge drinking were assessed with two survival models. Predictors were movie alcohol exposure (MAE), ownership of alcohol-branded merchandise and characteristics of the family (parental alcohol use, home availability of alcohol and parenting). Covariates included sociodemographics, peer drinking and personality factors.

Results Over the study period, the prevalence of adolescent ever use and binge drinking increased from 11% to 25% and from 4% to 13%, respectively. At baseline, the median estimated MAE from a population of 532 movies was 4.5 h and 11% owned alcohol-branded merchandise at time 2. Parental alcohol use (greater than or equal to weekly) was reported by 23% and 29% of adolescents could obtain alcohol from home. Peer drinking, MAE, alcohol-branded merchandise, age and rebelliousness were associated with both alcohol onset and progression to binge drinking. The adjusted hazard ratios for alcohol onset and binge drinking transition for high versus low MAE exposure were 2.13 (95% CI 1.76 to 2.57) and 1.63 (1.20 to 2.21), respectively, and MAE accounted for 28% and 20% of these transitions, respectively. Characteristics of the family were associated with alcohol onset but not with progression.

Conclusion The results suggest that family focused interventions would have a larger impact on alcohol onset while limiting media and marketing exposure could help prevent both onset and progression.

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For Smoking
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0117175332.htm

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Originally Posted by Science Daily

The research team surveyed more than 2,200 children ages 9-12 from 26 schools in New Hampshire and Vermont. Children were asked about movies they had seen and their smoking behavior at an initial baseline survey and at two follow-up surveys. Children who had already tried smoking before the baseline survey were not included in the follow-up surveys.
At the baseline survey, children were given randomly sampled lists containing 50 of the 550 top box office movies over the prior 5.5 years and asked which movies they had seen. Children were interviewed again in two follow-up surveys, one and two years later, about their smoking behavior and the movies they had seen based on updated lists of 50 of the 200 top box office movies and video rentals during the previous year.
By the third survey, 10 percent of the children had initiated smoking. Results from the three surveys showed that each child had seen an average of 37 out of the 150 popular movies they were asked about, exposing them to an average of 150 smoking occurrences. About 80 percent of the children's exposure was due to smoking images portrayed in youth-rated movies (G, PG, PG-13).
"The results indicated that the earliest exposure to movie smoking was as important as exposure measured at the two follow-ups in predicting children's smoking initiation," said Titus-Ernstoff. "This finding suggests that the process which leads children to initiate smoking begins much earlier than adolescence. Viewing smoking in the movies may influence the decision to smoke in more than a third of children."
The take-home message from this study is that exposure to movie smoking occurring during early childhood is as influential as exposure that occurs nearer to the time of smoking initiation, Titus-Ernstoff says. Even young children who see smoking in movies may be at risk for smoking later on. Parents also need to be aware, she adds, that most of children's exposure to movie smoking comes from youth-rated movies, and that they should try to reduce their children's viewing of movies that contain smoking.

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One more
From http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...86804J20120709

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Originally Posted by Reuters

- Youth who watch a lot of movies with cigarette-smoking characters - whether the films are rated R or PG-13 - are more likely to start smoking themselves, researchers suggest in a new study out Monday.
The report's lead author said the finding supports the idea that it's the smoking itself - and not the sex, profanity or violence that may go along with it in certain films - that influences youth to take up the habit.
"Movie smoking seems to be just as impactful if it's packaged in a PG-13 movie as opposed to an R movie," said Dr. James Sargent, from the Geisel School of Medicine at Dartmouth in Lebanon, New Hampshire.
"I really think it's a ‘cool' factor. The more they see it, the more they start to see ways that (smoking) might make them seem more movie-star," he told Reuters Health - even if the effect is subconscious.
Sargent and his colleagues counted how many times a character was seen smoking in each of over 500 box-office hits from recent years. Then, they asked 6,500 U.S. kids ages 10 to 14 which of a random selection of 50 of those movies they'd watched.
The average "dose" of movie smoking was 275 scenes from films rated PG-13 and 93 scenes from R movies, the researchers reported in Pediatrics.
And in three subsequent interviews with the same kids, those who had watched smoking-heavy movies were more likely to pick up the habit themselves. For each extra 500 smoking shots reported in their initial survey, youth were 33 to 49 percent more likely to try cigarettes over the next two years.
The effect of on-screen smoking was not significantly different for PG-13 and R films. And because kids tend to see more PG-13 flicks, Sargent's team calculated that if smoking automatically earned an R rating, the number of youngsters who try cigarettes would drop by 18 percent.

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Originally Posted by Dilbert

:sigh2: Current smartass generation does it for special farts ? Got influenced by whom? looking at Movie stars or looking at their own father, uncles, neighbors, friends , peer pressure ?
just like every other debates, its meaningless to argue, when you don't have facts. This is the very reason why we are still struggling to solve key social issues in India. People rarely own up their responsibilities

If you guys think you are so smart , show me the data ,which shows movies alone as the key influencer. If you don't have it, its better if we refrain from making movies alone as the target.

It was never the case 2 decades ago nor it is now.

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Current generation is not getting influenced much by movies, that was not the case 2 or 3 decades back. People were a lot influenced by movies for fashion, kiss, romance and many more things, if you don't agree, let us "agree to Disagree" and close this.

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Originally Posted by rsubras

Not sure if these guys are as smart as you expect, and also if you would accept this, since these are surveys conducted in western countries
For drinking [From http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/2/1/e...en_current_tab]

For Smoking
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0117175332.htm


One more
From http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...86804J20120709

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Superb Subras!! :clap: