Kamal-Ilayaraaja-Singeetham Rao-MUMBAI EXPRESS

njv,
you said it right...brahmins are easy targets to make fun of. A whole generation was spoiled by the DK/DMK making fun of Brahmins. The ONLY aspect of kamal that i hate is his explicit stmts against brahmins a.la dmk/dk.

Vasanth,
kamal is iyengar by birth :-(

Raja is a thorough pro...He scored for a movie called kadavuL (a hopelessly stupid movie by a non entity called velu prbakaran) which again promotes atheism in a big way. according to velu, theist = brahmins...Had he made fun of "other" religions, he wudn't've been alive to make his next movie.

I got a shock of my life when a friend of mine, who has no reasons to lie on these things, told me about a strange (superstitious) practice by Kamal just before the release of his movies. I won't quote it, but the same friend visits this forum, if he wishes he can elaborate it :-)

Rooky,
what's wrong with shankar-sujatha combo ? Except in boys, I have liked their take on the subjects they make movies on.

njv,
I don't think shankar is a brahmin.

Shankar,
I know the 'superstition'you are referring to,I,tmrrmt&AA had a argument about this some time back.And Yes,Director Shankar is NOT a Brahmin.

Not just Kamal,a lot of 'Brahmins'in the film industry including Sujatha have made fun of this caste various times in their movies.I wonder why :?It a DK,DMK culture.Why do these guys follow it?

At the same time I see a more mature Kamal these days regarding God,religion,caste etc.He comes across as more profound in his statements than a rabble rousing so called Dravidian politician.

MADDY,
These are so many HCKH fans who don't agree with his thoughts on religion etc including Yours truly.But just for that to come up with statements like SRK is a better actor is toooooo much.

We are talking about film activity related talents,accomplishments.Why confuse it with personal idelogies,character,behaviour etc?

My few cents on this:

whether ppl agree with this or not, I dont know - strangely, it is Manu's caste-based system that is proving a stumbling block to alien forces, especially those hellbent on religious conversions, to make their mark in India!

In the entire South East Asia and Africa, 'souls' have been easily harvested by two major religious groups.

only in India, the 'soul harvesting' phenomenon is finding its stumbling blocks - even today, in the Tirunelveli area, Pettai is dominated by one particular minority community, while Palayankottai dominated by another - but despite this, the problems being faced by these 'mass conversion' programs are enormous, ONLY because some communities within the Hindu fold, strongly resist conversions -

therefore, the supreme objective to break these shackles is to put down specific caste-based communities, with the ulterior motive of conversions!

I am saying this because, my native place is a place called Panthalgudi near Saathhoor, which is all close to Tirunelveli-Madurai area! and we get hard-core authentic facts from there!

Brahmin-bashing is part and parcel of such orchestrated efforts to malign the face of Indian society and entertainment 'moghuls' find it quite convenient and also often becomes a handy tactic to gain popularity!

And it is not just a coincidence that one particular lady from Tamil Nadu was recently honored by an award by a major religious based group from abroad!

This assumes major significance, more so, after the lady withdrew her earlier clarion call for all bans on religious conversions in Tamil Nadu (following her open rebuke to the statement on Tamil Nadu's anti-conversion law made by a big-time minority leader based near Italy) and even more so, after the arrest of another religous leader!

In Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, one minority community, thanks to its affluence and accessibility to modern arms and weaponry, indulged in a pogrom/mass murder of another community, which was economically poorer - but the world gave scant regards - but events in Gujarat, get amplified global media attention, in the name of 'gross human rights' violations!

That, a country/society whose cultural heritage even considers killing animals for satisfying one's hunger is portrayed as a backward, 'minority' targetting barbaric populace, and that too, by whom ?! by a bunch of nations, whose societies, have value systems that stink to heaven and glory!

To be a part of the majority in India is a sin that many of us have to live with!

"That, a country/society whose cultural heritage even considers killing animals for satisfying one's hunger is portrayed as a backward"

should read as " That, a country/society whose cultural heritage even considers killing animals for satisfying one's hunger a grave sin, is portrayed as a backward"

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tmrrmt neenga panthalkudiya :) am from aruppukottai, pakkathu oor thaan..... actually naan kooda panthalkudi than coz my granddad is a pandhalkudi native....

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yeah i agree it is easy to pick soft targets...and thatz why Brahmin bashing is so widely prevalent in Tamilnadu.... it is a style those days i guess, to be an atheist.....

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Originally Posted by MADDY

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Originally Posted by rooky

I have seen ARR fans keeping ARR above kamal while discussing about their combo.May be they are upset that ARR doesn't get many kamal movies :). World knows who is the best.

There are bad examples like sathyaraj,shankar-sujatha combo etc...

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there are 3 things here rooky:
1.I,as a ARR-fan feels so happy that our boss hasnt worked with kamal frequently.......ARR doesent need kamal to compose kadhalan and alaipauthey.........
2. in TN kamal is bigger than ARR, but just look outside, ARR is 10 times as popular as kamal.......
3. y do u call shankar-sujatha combo bad...i dunt get it....

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1.As u may agree people like kamal,Rajni,IR or ARR are not dependant on anyone.They are all Legends and proven them in more than one occasion.Just to reply to ur thoughts on point 1,kamal never needed ARR for devar magan or nayagan or sippikkul muthu or moondraam pirai or avvai shanmugi and so on

2.Not in TN alone man..He is the only actor in India to have direct hits in different languages..(few movies :Tamil as u may know,Telugu- swathi muthyam,kannada- pushpaka vimana, hindi - ek duje keliyae,malayalam -chanakyan,etc..).Dont think that kamal is known or popular only in TN:) ARR is as popular as kamal in India and not more..Let ARR score music in a proper hollywood movie and if it gets popular and all the hollywood and the entire world acknowledge his talents !!! You should note one thing.MDs in hollywood are way ahead in their own music,which ARR gives us here.

3.If anti-caste or religion is an issue,than pro-caste or religion is equally unacceptable.U can see this in all shankar-sujatha combo movies

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in TN kamal is bigger than ARR, but just look outside, ARR is 10 times as popular as kamal.......
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On what basis are you quoting this ? Is it bcos, barat bala publicises even hair-style change in arr as an event to celebrate about ?? I won't go by the newspaper coverages, and publicity stunts.
ARR definitely is popular (He's THE best MD in bollywood, after all :-) ). But Kamal is THE most popular south Indian film personality in the north followed by arr and mr.

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Originally Posted by Shankar

For all his home production (in which he acts) Kamal uses ONLY Raja.

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I guess you do not mean, if he does NOT ACT in his OWN PRODUCTON, he MIGHT NOT go to IR? :roll: