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Add Vedham pudhidhu and Karuththamma as successful non IR-BR films.
I am not sure that BR chose VM over IR. I guess BR had his own differences with IR. Otherwise he wouldnt have worked with IR in movies like Pudhu nellu pudhu naathu, en uyir thozhan, Nadodi Thendral etc. which came after the IR-VM split.
Which edition of Kumudam ? Latest ? I am not able to find IR's interview :(
Anyways..
They are too late ! That generation is gone and very less people will take them BR-IR seriously now..
Samsaaram adhu minsaram dialogue ninaivukku varugiradhu !
Nallaa irundha paanaiyai udaichaachu..inime ennatha ottinaalum ottaadhu..
Ilaiyaraajaavin pidivaadha gunathaal evvalavu izhappugal :(
Maniratnam
Rajini
Bharathiraja
Balachandar
Evvalavu izhappugal isaikku...Idhai payan padithi kondu evvalavu kuppaigal nuzhaindhu vittana :(
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>>I am not sure that BR chose VM over IR.<<
At least that was the reason cited at the time of `vEdham pudhidhu' (BTW this movie got some acclaims / awards etc. and had decent music by Devendran -though resembled IR a lot, `kaNNukkuL nooru nilavA' can easily be mistaken for an IR song- but not a big commercial success...may be did moderate business...)
After their apparent patch up with `en uyir thOzhan', why did they split again?...Does anyone know?...Was it because of VM's renewed career after the successful arrrival of ARR that made BR think like ...'Well, why should I go and beg this IR...He is soon going to be a spent force...I have my VM and can work with the new whiz-kid...'
Thanks rs, for the upload. Dont completely agree with you..But I like your earlier statement..the album is 'very satisfying'. In these days, when MDs are happy with composing a catchy pallavi it is good to be able to listen to the whole song..especially if you dont analyse or compare.
In general, most of us IR fans are beginning to think alike..I sort of agree with raja_fan on IR's probable intransigence and sanjeevi on the pent up anger part..Yesterday, I watched a movie with my 5yr old son, Meet the Robinson's ..this is about an orphaned boy searching for his mother..the message is let go off the past and 'Keep Moving Forward' (which turns out to be the logo of his successful corporation in future ..typical american style :-)) also abused in our neighborhood as 'mannippOm marappOm'..Still there is value in this..pent up bad feelings affect our performance..especially if you are an artist ..composer etc.
Anyways..what the heck is this 'rhythm programming' man ..sucks the genuineness out of good lyrics with this 'beats in a for loop' kind of perfect timing thingy..only us software engineers are programming with our head..why not these musicians play with their heart and soul for heavensake..
I wasn't able to get the files from rapidshare, rs...In any case, my strong feeling for Ajantha (regardless of how the songs are), any effort by IR is vizhalukku iRaiththa neer...I'd be too happy to be proven wrong...
I'd rather wait for 'pazhassi rAjA'...
I was not able to download from rapidshare.
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review from first listen
1.yengae irundhaai - FRESH tune (though has subtle shades of "thendral katrey, konjam nillu" from early 1990s and
VS Narasimhan's "nano kann paarthaen" from some 1985 movie)- KJY's voice sounds jaded though - lyrics appear to be relevant to the implied theme of the movie
2."thoorigai" - second interlude awesome!! flute dialogue classic IR - tune a bit odd in the charanam portion, but the strings going hand-in-hand with the vocals is the IR i been missing for long
3."yaarum thodaatha" - VINTAGE IR! Shreya is one of the rarest gifts to have entered the film industry - she rocks - the first interlude has very interesting short sax pieces - only the charanam part is a notch below the pallavi (in terms of the sheer beauty of the pallavi)- second interlude has AMAZING strings section, followed by a very different flute-violin dialogue - the trademark IR style strings + flute overrule the synth usage
4.sloka - it is more like a Bhajan bit - my pick of the album! for long, as a HCIRF, I have wondered how it would sound, if IR were to come up with an album with full-fledged Hindustani style music! this piece is a classic demonstration of how it would sound like - wonder who the singer is, the voice is great, but the pronounciation is a bit off - my wishlist's top item: IR does more numbers like this, exploring Hindustani classical stuff and get some
well-known, well-trained classical singer to sing the same - it is a pity that this piece is short - it had all the potential of blossoming into a treat like "jhoote naina bole" from Lekin
5.yengae irundhaai - second version - has more use of cello, viola than the first version and the rhythm is more subdued - but again, the tune's freshness is very heartening - second interlude has a very interesting twist on strings! irritants: the synth-based weird 'noises' that IR seems to have picked up from "Mayakkanadi" compositions
6."kaiyyil oru" - listen-and-forget-it - apaswaram - sticks out like an ugly thumb - but it might become popular, given the kind of music that sells
7."yengae irundhai" - just as i was wondering how come IR hasnt sang the signature song of the movie, here it is - same interludes as song no.1, and IR's singing matches KJY's in its sheer AGE!
8."idho" - pallavi sucks bigtime! IR trying to be Yuvan and its like Sachin trying to play the hook/pull shot like Ganguly! but hey, the first interlude has the long-forgotten
IR low-bass flute (recall 'aasaya kaathhula') - and then with the first charanam the tune morphs into a sweet flowing melody, a different tune! perhaps its for some stage music/ dance competition kinda situation
9."vandhadhu yaar" - the prepallavi has shades of Shankar Ganesh's "oru kadhal devadhai nerinil vandhaal" from some late 1980s movie! the main song's interludes are ditto as song no.2, but the tune isnt as good as I anticipated
10."podudaa" - goes straight to the garbage bin! even at the heights of his creative prowess during the 1980s, this would have merited exactly thus
Overall the interludes are more interesting/appealing, than the main tunes themselves, in all the songs!! cant explain why I feel so
but, the scores just do not match the anticipation the samples created, period!
irir123,
Agree with ur comments .Wish song 10 ,6 were not there ..
In all the songs as u have mentioned ,Raaja rules and jumps with his interludes !!!!