Dats true, a french man who looks in2 the future ( dead centuries ago), he had predicted the event on september 11th etc, he sed wen the world ends, india wud b the ruling country.
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Dats true, a french man who looks in2 the future ( dead centuries ago), he had predicted the event on september 11th etc, he sed wen the world ends, india wud b the ruling country.
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I am just going to sit and watch calmly (just like India!) and see what others opinons are, for sometime.
Amazed to find this raging discussion on the socio-economic status of India stemming from a discussion on a film.....!
Well, I havn't seen Anniyan yet so as to speak abt it.......but glad to find the discussions this film has aroused! :D
I feel tat Cinefan (as always!) & Unlimited hav the right idea abt wat India's situation actually is today, & I support their arguments rather than blindly hum the "India shining" song! :D
It is really unilateral to say tat our country is developing just bcos of IT firms, MNCs & BPOs booming in it! when actually we r in dire need of proper basic infrastructure, law & order & an efficient govt. to rule us for a reasonably proper time-period, contrary to these political parties always trying to outwin each other in elections every few yrs & concentrating on the no. of votes they get when most of them do precious little to develop the state/country in their tenure........
The day-to-day environ. in India inside a posh IT firm is a sharp contrast to wat u find once u step out of the IT bldg. & walk on the road outside!
And hats off to unlimited who aptly/unabashedly pointed out the 'frog-in-the-well' attitude of the average working class youth (viz. IT profs.) of today who live in their own comfy world, secured by their high salaries & perpetuate the belief tat India is 'shining' or becoming a developed nation bcos of their professions! One particular aspect I've been pondering over myself.......
How apparent it is tat our Govt., incapable of ensuring equal employment oppurtunities for all professions, is propping up IT firms to create a facade of a 'shining' India! How, may I ask, is IT going to benefit say a graduate in BA (as I am) or MA.......or ne-one other than those who've studied/graduated in IT/Comp. engg.??
Moreover, for eg. sumone who takes interest in studying say Geog. or History etc. - even if a gold medalist- is faced w/ a blank future in our country today, either w/ unemployment or too low a pay, not to mention lack of respect from society......& maybe ultimately- even reluctantly- seeks solace in say, becoming a customer service rep. in a call centre, a job tat he wud've hardly had interest in! Whereas an IT profnl. even after just finishing grad. can rest assured abt joining a job related to his interest & gaining respect in society! Note the difference?? :wink:
And surely one cannot expect each & everyone in this entire nation to study only IT/Comp. engg. like human robots & end up as techies just bcos this is one profession tat guarantees jobs w/ decent income! IMHO, every person has a right to study for watever profession they aspire, be it MBA or MA Philosophy.....and its the duty of the Govt. to ensure the possibility of decent employment oppurtunities for ppl. aspiring for ne & every career in all fields, rather than simply pampering growth of IT firms or MNCs or BPOs in India in the name of 'gr8er emplyomnt oppurtunities'!
In developed nations, a person is assured employment & a decent living/position in society whether hez an engg. grad. or tat of linguistics, even tho the salaries might obv. vary.......
So this is wat shud be emphasised in India as well........
Unlimited, kudos to u again for pointing out the traps set by the free market system & India expectedly falling for it! Similar scenario in case of BPOs in India too (altho these r pvt. establishments).......
Lastly I fail to comprehend, on one hand, we exult in declaring tat Indian economy is 'booming' & improving at a steadfast rate.......but OTOH, it seems contradictory when for eg. many of our ppl. still dream the 'American Dream' w/ US $ floating around them......in fact, when I returned from Singapore (studied there for 2 yrs) this yr, many ppl. seemed to think I was crazy to do so, when I cud've easily migrated to work/settle in another '1st world' country instead of returning to India!
How cud this be our ppl's attitude if our countryz eco. is indeed improving?? :? We need to rethink all this........
lord!
what a short post!
very short :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by sanjay
hehe
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As cinefan as mentioned the lack of civic sense is basic need of the hour. We don't have to compare ourself with any other country, it is something every indian needs to inculcate. What is the point if we are developing in IT and other fields and lack the ability to properly drive, keep our streets clean ..stand in line. These by itself will make our country glossy
Sanjay on your point abt Shankar doesn't touch the real issues, i beg to differ. He is from a middle class family and has gone thru most of the hassles that each one of us go thru. So his messages are relevant. He has also understood how to make commercial cinema so he is striking a balance between the two. Even MR doesn't necessarily give a solution, he just takes a burning issue and builds a story around it. He doesn't advocate a solution.
oops! i actually meant
"As cinefan as mentioned correcting the lack of civic sense is basic need of the hour."
I am surprised that no one has brought China into our topic or did I miss them? In fact, it is the apt country to compare India with, if at all we want to compare. It is similar in the way it wants to grow genuinely and indigenously (of course, every country will have its own quota of fraudulence) into a super-power. Only that we are striving to be a developed nation, while China is striving to be a super-power.
Ganesh,
India should not be compared with China. Unlike India, China is not a multicultural society. It is populated 92% by one race - Han. That's why I compared with other multicultural societies like Malaysia, Nigeria.
Some of China's recent laws are outrageous and funny such as the recent crackdown on anuthing on the internet that goes against the regime and the "values" of the society.
I have a question for people who are in foriegn nations. Have you ever come acros a Taiwanese person who claims he/she is taiwanese and not chinese?