IR's New albums - Ver 2008

It doesnt matter if KR is good or bad, since IR is the one calling the shots finally. Hence, if something doesnt turn out as expected, he should take the blame. Ultimately, the loss is to the poor producer, and sometimes, the Music directors have an avenue of escape by pointing out that it was the directors who didnt extract good music from them :)
So, the buck is finally passed to the director.

Anyways, I somehow feel that all such runaround efforts by the MDs are nothing but betrayal to the director. I was somewhat disappointed at IR's songs in Mayakannadi movie. Let us hope he does well atleast in Malaikallan. I also hope there is no rehash of Ethanai kalamthan from the MGR movie.

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Originally Posted by vem

Let us hope he does well atleast in Malaikallan. I also hope there is no rehash of Ethanai kalamthan from the MGR movie.

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I like IR - Rajkiran combo. Must say.. One of my favorite combos. Simple but good lyrics. A good village theme with right mix of sentiments. The music will add colours to the film. hmm.. Liked all the songs in those two movies. I don't think I listened to the songs of the third movie. (some thurai or something like that).

But I am not sure how Rajkiran's type of movie will suit the audience now. Forget about the movie, if the songs are great I don't have any complains.

Miskin is also trying to become the HERO. Maayakannadi aagathunnu nambaalam since there won't be any songs :|

Myskkin has already told that six songs have been made ready by IR for Nandalala. So I hope and wish he does not waste these songs by removing them from the film :)

Regarding Rajkiran, much can be said about the music and visualization sense of this simple looking guy !
People like Cheran ( and even Kamal ) have a lot to learn from this humble yet talented man.

Aranmanai Kili songs are fantastic examples. He was so artistic in the picturisation and camera shots. The water stream, thottasinungi leaves folding one by one etc..

RV.Udaya Kumar was another guy who had excellent picturisation sense..particularly the way he cuts various scenes and edits together..Best examples would be "Pottu vaittha.." from Singaravelan and "Vandhadhe kungumam.." from Kizhakku Vasal.

Yes, i too like rajkiran's picturisations very much . Esp raasave unnai vida mataen and other songs in aranmanai kili are fabulous!

"Kuyil Paattu" (swarnalatha) from "en raasavin manasile" is one my most favourite "pullarikka vaikkum" song. IR has soaked this song with amazing music/interludes (especially flute bits).

thanks,

Krishnan

http://dailythanthi.com/magazines/veli_snippets.htm

What is this Sangili Murugan movie? (He was the producer of kAdhalukku mariyAdhai)

Ajanta - some hype:
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/fr/200...2851470400.htm

"raja_fan"

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Myskkin has already told that six songs have been made ready by IR for Nandalala. So I hope and wish he does not waste these songs by removing them from the film :)

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:shock: If it has 6 songs, then worry is there. He is acting as the hero :o Only GOD knows what will be the result. Let us hope he delivers.

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Regarding Rajkiran, much can be said about the music and visualization sense of this simple looking guy !
Aranmanai Kili songs are fantastic examples. He was so artistic in the picturisation and camera shots. The water stream, thottasinungi leaves folding one by one etc.

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Yes. Rajkiran picturisation is simple and quite artistic. Reaches very well in the village side and esp lady audience. Songs from 'Aranmanai kili' :thumbsup: :notworthy: :notworthy: I loved 'Aathangarai eera kaarthu', 'Adi poonguyilae' songs a lot.

Must say : The theatre in which I saw the movie lacked good audio systems. Despite that, the feel created by the music and the impact was so great :notworthy: I am not sure whether any other music director created such an impact till now.

Apart from 'En raasaavin manasilae' and 'Aranmanai kili' there was one more movie in which he acted along with Sangeetha. Forgot the movie name :confused2:

I remember this song from that film... 'Oru Santhana kaattukullae..'.. Other songs were also good. But couldn't recollect. :?

'Oru Santhana kaattukullae' is from 'ellAme en rAsA dhAn'.

'azhagAna manjappuRA' & 'veeNaikku veeNakkunju' were two more nice songs from the same movie.

Yes, I also thought of mentioning "Oru sandhana kaatukkulle".. the flower arrangements like a garden was superb !.

And the song "Nattu vaccha rosaa chedi.." from Aranmanai Kili. It takes you straight to the place where it was shot. the western ghats in the back ground, the traditional dance of the villagers, the village orchestra sitting right there at the spot and playing their instruments, and on top of everything the natural shyness the heroine expresses so beautifully..For a guy like me who was borught up in city, this song is a virtual travel to some village in Madurai district along the western ghats..:)

For "En rasavin manasile", IR told RK that this movie does not need any songs and he will do only the BGM. But RK insisted for songs and the result we all know !

Rajkiran also acted a movie with Vijayakumar's daugher - forgot the name of the movie though. IT had a song - sandhanam thechachu en mama'. I also think MD was KR :)

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Originally Posted by MumbaiRamki

Paavam KR ! He has to get blame for his music and his dads!

If a composer is good in synth, he will be good - IR is bad at synth , his forte is live orchestration ! IR was adapting beautifully in 80s with a mix of techno and live, but somehow he reserved his experimentation only for better(at composing time) films in 90s and 2000.

For example Time did have synth and yet it was superb ! The trouble is not synth but IR gives some repetitive and boring synth in some movies. COnsider the disco songs he dished out after 95-the ones that stood out where the one where he excelled in experimentation. ( somnehow i m mad with saathu nadai saathu , its damn good)

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Yes!!! IR's mix of synth and live orchestra during the 80's were terrific! His usage of Synth is very unique, I cant remember many composers writing melodies for synth, yet IR wrote notes as if they were just another live instrument. Ofcourse, in the recent past there is nothing much to talk about. :(

Selvakumar

Rajkiran loves IR music . He is a big fan & thondar of Isainyani . He must have considered it as the biggest honour when IR scored music for his movies. So, he must have meticulously planned on picturisation.

Kuyil paattu vandhadhu >. for Meena , one of the very best of IR

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Originally Posted by app_engine

'Oru Santhana kaattukullae' is from 'ellAme en rAsA dhAn'.

'azhagAna manjappuRA' & 'veeNaikku veeNakkunju' were two more nice songs from the same movie.

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I loved the vadivelu song "Ettana Iruntha" (superb ludes) and "Thothukudi Muthu Muthu" too :)

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Originally Posted by vem

Rajkiran also acted a movie with Vijayakumar's daugher - forgot the name of the movie though. IT had a song - sandhanam thechachu en mama'. I also think MD was KR :)

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Manickam, the first movie of KR

Rakamma Rakamma was big hit

Visuals support pannumo ennavo Raaja thriller movie'nna adi vayiru kalangara madhiri BGM koduthuduvaar. :) Watch here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRmIw...eature=related

In "aranmaNai kiLi", "vaan madhiye" and "rasave unnai vida matten" easily secure a berth among the top 50 female solos of raja. Listen to the tune flow in their charanam. Melody simply oozes out

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Originally Posted by thumburu

In "aranmaNai kiLi", "vaan madhiye" and "rasave unnai vida matten" easily secure a berth among the top 50 female solos of raja. Listen to the tune flow in their charanam. Melody simply oozes out

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Also add Parijatha poove , reminds me of Nan sirithal deepavali !

If I remember correctly, Rajkiran was the one who gave the title "ராக தேவன்" (Raga Devan) to IR.

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Originally Posted by rajasaranam

Visuals support pannumo ennavo Raaja thriller movie'nna adi vayiru kalangara madhiri BGM koduthuduvaar. :) Watch here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRmIw...eature=related

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Indeed a good thriller music Rajasaranam! Whats the instrument (something like guitar) used? The tune also sounds very unique.

thanks,

Krishnan

I heard that two Mallu albums have been released - SMS and Innathe Chintha Vishayam. Has anybody heard the songs? Reviews?

100 words on,

Innathe Chintha Vishayam
http://itwofs.com/milliblog/2008/03/...lam-ilayaraja/

SMS
http://itwofs.com/milliblog/2008/03/...lam-ilayaraja/

Karthik

Any online links for hearing the songs?

Updates on Malle puvvu..

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/t...cle/37489.html

Download "Innathe Chinta.." here .

http://yes143.blogspot.com/2008/03/d...ayam-2008.html

My take on first two hearings :

Just 3 songs in the album. But 2 out of them are potential hits :)

1. Kandu kandu :

Best one in the album. Another hit for MG.Sreekumar from IR.
The song's theme is hero walking through natural scenarios and singing about the birds, cow, frogs etc.
IR is fresh and the sounds of the animals adds to the beauty.
More than anything, you hear few new sounds and especially see how the Thavil suddenly surprises you !

2. Manasoru Poomala :

I rank this No.2 . The tune is catchy and very nice. I am not irritated by the English verses. That is also beautiful. But the music is much predictable, except the rythm.


3. Kastoori pottu :

Not a bad one, but sorry IR..this tune is so many times recycled..BGM too..you could have taken more time and come out with a better one.


Overall, though this album does not contain mindblowing composition like "Mandara poo .." in Vinoda yatra , the songs will go well with Mallu audience . And again IR proves he is still his best when it comes to Malayalam.

Forgot to add !

Madhu Balakrishnan is brilliant as usual in " Manasoru Poomala .."

Download "SMS" here !

http://www.4shared.com/dir/6277465/3ccba1ce/SMS.html

I read inetk's comment and got discouraged. So heard only the 2 songs that he rated good.

1. Subha niyogam :

Very good one and philosophical ! But why Bhavatharini ??
Chitra would have made the song immortal.

2. Ponathevide :

Raja sings malayalam again for Sathyan.
And he sings in a different voice like a odaikkaaran ( another Jaisy gift ?! )
Starts in a promising way and fades in the charanam..
Raja, please..., neenga ippadi mookkale azhudhaa samaiyathula thaanga mudiyalai :(

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Raja sings malayalam again for Sathyan.

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Ooops ! Not Sathyan..sorry !

Listened to the rest of the songs in "SMS".

3. Kadappurathil :

Excellent tune and rythm ! Reminds some how of the song "oomai nenjin.." from Manithanin maruppakkam.

4. Marachonnu :

Ok song. Can grow on mutiple hearings.

5. Innathe : Crap !

Overall, SMS is far better than "kangalum kavi paduthe" kind of album.
More fresh and no irritating pauses at least ! :)

Listened to both albums once at a single go! I love them :)

I have not heard the albums yet. But i dont quite agree with the way the INETK Karthik reviews IR albums( i dont read other MD album reviews). So my post is directed towards his reviews as i have read a lot of them by now.His frequent use of phrases like Outdated or Archaic is silly. No music becomes outdated, one can never say at any point of time that only a certain kind of music will appeal to the people. Good music will always draw people. So just because you think IR's tune sounds like 80's does not mean it will not appeal. If the tune is good and orchestration is catchy(who cares if its 80 or 90's do common people really care?) the song will work. and also no one grows out of listenining to good music. SO when say we have grown out of it, please include only yourself . You are not representing the views of the people .You never grow out of a listeniing to a particular style of music, you only become more adaptive in enjoying other styles of music as well. Try to be open minded when it comes to reviewing an album. Music should always be reviewed to as either being good pleasing to the ear or soulful or on the other hand does not appeal at all, no melody or no rythm. There is nodate stamp or expiry date for good music. I think you should keep this in mind when reviewing future albums.

Raja_fan,
Thanks for the SMS. Unfortunately, the volume sounds weird on my player. sort of volume goes up and down. is it something with my pc or others have seen this too?

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Originally Posted by raja_fan

1. Kandu kandu :

Best one in the album. Another hit for MG.Sreekumar from IR.
The song's theme is hero walking through natural scenarios and singing about the birds, cow, frogs etc.
IR is fresh and the sounds of the animals adds to the beauty.
More than anything, you hear few new sounds and especially see how the Thavil suddenly surprises you !

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I think this is the same as 'naan yaaru enakkE theriyalaiyE, enakkEta naa solla vazhiyillaiye'.
kasturi - we have heard this, almost exact tune from IR before. the other one - I dont know why IR likes to do these kinds of experiments.
I like SMS better. Some songs have real acoustic instruments instead of synth. Actually both albums seem to be dominated by synths. With IR's tunes (indian/folksy) synths dont go very well.
Where is the IR who did Vikram, Sigappu rOjaakkaAL etc ? Is the concept of a 'westernised' song difficult to grasp now - piano/guitar song of yesteryears vs jazz, rap, techno of today, so that IR is at a loss , in search of a modern rhythm arrangement..??

After repeated hearings,

1. "Manasiloru poomala " sounds like a recycling of "Oru thuppaakki kaiyil eduthu.." from Kodai Mazhai.

2. "Kadappurathu.." seems to be another form of "Malai nila" from KKP. Same raga used ? But this is far better with catchy rythm and flow.

2. "Subha niyogam" resembles "Hridaya rangoli" from Kannada "Pallavi Anupallavi" atleast in the begining.

Madhu Balakrishnan's "gambeera" voice in the songs is notable and should be a good choice for IR's melodies here after..

Overall, I am satisfied with both albums. Not very great, but definitely listenable again and again :)

I think we all know that IR has experimented in so many forms over 8000 songs that asking him to prove himself one more time is a waste of time. Everytime he sees a film he doesnt see the content to merely fill it up with songs but rather enliven it with the appropriate background score. If he was interested in the songs department he would have still continued with Rajini sir's films. As i said after nothing but wind and thiruvasagam his desire has mainly been instrumental music and background music but never songs. And i dunt think he himself is bothered about it.

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I think we all know that IR has experimented in so many forms over 8000 songs that asking him to prove himself one more time is a waste of time. Everytime he sees a film he doesnt see the content to merely fill it up with songs but rather enliven it with the appropriate background score. If he was interested in the songs department he would have still continued with Rajini sir's films. As i said after nothing but wind and thiruvasagam his desire has mainly been instrumental music and background music but never songs. And i dunt think he himself is bothered about it.

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Hulkster,
I understand your point (futility of expecting 'change' in his songs) but its rather sad, isn't it? He's done it all and asking him to "prove" something is funny alright but then, if he is still composing songs, it is for others and one cannot say "His interest is only in BGM and he has lost interest in songs" right? As long as he is composing songs, he is fair game IMO. If he's no longer interested, he can stop doing songs.

P.S: Just when we kind of write him off, he comes with a Pithamagan or Virumaandi, Mumbai Xpress or Cheeni Kum. Atleast andha madhiri edhavadhu nadakkuma nu oru nappasai :razz:

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Originally Posted by rprasad

I have not heard the albums yet. But i dont quite agree with the way the INETK Karthik reviews IR albums( i dont read other MD album reviews). So my post is directed towards his reviews as i have read a lot of them by now.His frequent use of phrases like Outdated or Archaic is silly. No music becomes outdated, one can never say at any point of time that only a certain kind of music will appeal to the people. Good music will always draw people. So just because you think IR's tune sounds like 80's does not mean it will not appeal. If the tune is good and orchestration is catchy(who cares if its 80 or 90's do common people really care?) the song will work. and also no one grows out of listenining to good music. SO when say we have grown out of it, please include only yourself . You are not representing the views of the people .You never grow out of a listeniing to a particular style of music, you only become more adaptive in enjoying other styles of music as well. Try to be open minded when it comes to reviewing an album. Music should always be reviewed to as either being good pleasing to the ear or soulful or on the other hand does not appeal at all, no melody or no rythm. There is nodate stamp or expiry date for good music. I think you should keep this in mind when reviewing future albums.

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Interesting Post. I feel Karthik ( inetk) is very much open minded having read , almost all of his reviews. if you see his review for some of other mallu IR movies,chennikum , you can see his appreciation for his music.

Music is not outdated nor is archaic- but film music has to be contemporary to an extent. We can hear 800 carnatic songs with similar orechestration, but 800 film songs! Personally, i love raaja using 80s orchestration now, but i think it is the lack of 'obvious' experimentation and predictable interludes is what bores me. Just hear the second interlude of 'ramamin mohanam' - would you guess that ? Of course music is not about guessing, but it finds a twin with the word energy!

I do agree raaja's music is still soothing, but with our ears getting resonant more with clarity of sounds rather than the melody, it is unavoidable that we expect something different from raaja !

But what really irritates me is that while 'our' raaja doesn't experiment much in songs these days ( in general) , he just goes crazy with BGMs. I was literally flabbergasted with chennai kum's BGM ..wow !

Soulless album(s). IR please please please stop the irritating synths and pauses.

Kandu kandu was the sole bright spot.

Atleast five songs are good - Kandu, Manasil oru, Subha niyogam, Kadapurathu , Ponathevide.

Kadapurathu is definitely vintage IR !

The problem with us is that we expect all the songs in a album to be likeable..
But IR has never been like that in most of his albums even in the eighties. One or two songs in a film would be time less..others will be just situational.