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Oh, so you think all women were married away on their own free will? The only woman who loved Krishna and wanted to marry him was Rukmini. She even sent him a love letter, and wanted him to come and show his strength and marry her. All the others were given away by their respective parents/guardians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakeeran
None of the women had any choice over who they were marrying or whether they were getting married to the man as his 4th or 5th or 6th wife!
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Originally Posted by Badri
This very hypocrisy I have been pinpointing to some people in vain, though not in Mahabaratham context (latest case in point, the movie Uyir).
Hi Badri :wave:
yes nakeern, for everything we do in life be it bad or good, we will always have reason to back up what we have done is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakeeran
VERY SAD :cry:
let's 4get about Draupadi issue, i think it is useless to discuss about that. now coming back to the GREATEST character KARNA
1) During Draupadi's swayamvaram, all the kings would be present to display the archery skills inorder to marry here, pandavas would be here in the disguise of Bhramins.
all the kings would fail to lift the bow it self, let alone fire the arrow, but karna would lift up with ease , attache the arrow to fire the target, at the moment Draupadi will INSULT KARNA, by saying only chatriya should take part not saarthi's son, is this not an INSULT???
Sri Krsihna and Balaram would be present in the saba with sealed lips!!!:evil:
this may be th reason why KARNA kept quiet while Draupadi was being seduced !
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Originally Posted by Madh@va
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.Draupadi is honoured as PATHNI.!!
Forget Draupadi... Paanjali so soon?... Why so much in a hurry.?Quote:
Originally Posted by Raghu
I am patiently waiting for all others to speak out whatever they have got to say on this Unique Character... of Indian Epic..
...uncomparable to any in the World Literature and Epics.
We have already discussed in detail... about two years back... on this character.
Dear Raghu, will you please search and provide that link of...
...MY Analytical POSTINGS on Draupadi (Especially my detailed Reply to "Thiru")... here for the Reference of all.?...
... before I proceed furtheron to say a lot more... on that AYONIJA.
...INTERESTING and THOUGHT-PROVOKING... in the present Age too.!!
For the present.. I mention one point... Draupadi is honoured as PATHNI ...
... although the Common wife of Five brothers. How?
Because in bed she was dealing with only one particular Husband amongst the Five... for each year by turn.
That is how she could have Five different Children...
...identifying its specific Father.!!
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Originally Posted by Badri
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Sudhaamaji, I have a query. Was not Yudhisthira equated as the fatherly figure to the remaining 4 brothers? As such, should not his wife seen as a motherly figure to them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sudhaama
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Originally Posted by Madh@va
Nowhere in Bhaaratham, Yudhishtra was addressed or treated by his younger brothers... as FATHER to them.
True to his Family-status as Eldest brother... he was given the highest respect and command...
...conforming to the Norms of the Indian Society in that Puranic age.
Besides.. he was one of the Husbands of Draupadi, their Common wife...
..which position was equally maintained... as per Dharma Sasthras.
... I have already dealt on this aspect under this thread... about two years back.
I wonder and feel pained to see some hubbers.. commenting loosely on her character and chastity, womanhood and all such personal image factors about that Heroine of the Great Epic.
We have to remember... that she was an AYONIJA... who was not by Family way... from the Human-womb...but...
a divine-birth emanated from Homa-Fire.
She is worshipped as the Fire-Goddess...Draupadi Amman in some villages.
...They say she is very powerful... I have personally witnessed some miraculous events..
...INCREDIBLE... but True.!!
How she happened to marry Five Husbands... apart from the Kunthi pertinent episode...
... is another INTERESTING factor, many do not know, nor may remember...
..which is an IMPORTANT LESSON for Mankind...in ALL RESPECTS...for ever...
...on which I have already analysed in detail.
Why she suffered...UNDUE...? How?... is the point we have to think over practically...
It is another IMPORTANT LESSON for the posterity.
Even though a divine birth, wedded to five INVINCIBLE great warriors...
... she miserably suffered to the WORST for even an ordinary, common woman.....Why?..
All because of her making on her own...
... which is an Eternal Lesson from Bhaaratham...
What were her such Mistakes.?.. rather BLUNDERS.?
..Applicable to ANYBODY.. of any Era... Present and Future too.!!
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Mr. Sudhama
I think you are over glorifying Draupadhi . IMO, Draupadhi was another normal human being for :
1.Having laughed at Duryodhana when he was the guest of honour for their newly constructed palace ( by Mayan )
2.Having denied Karna when he also participated in that skill of archery which was a pre condition to marry Draupadhi.
Duryodhana, after all, is a prince & his Father is an iconic figure, truly a revered one >>> Dridrashtra, considered the Father figure by even Pandavas. I believe, she passed comments like >>> son of a blind man is also blind when Duryodhana slipped & fell on a mirage ( pl clarify if its true ) If she had really uttered such words, well, she deserves much more harsher treatment. No man ( be it Nakeeran or the prince Duryodhana ) will absorb such provocative teasings . DEFINITELY , NOT THE WAY TO TREAT YOUR GUEST.
On her comments against Karna >>> I will not marry a Suta putra >>> If she had such reservations, she should have expressly laid down conditions well before the event so that Karna would not have participated that test. Having made an entry and also for having successfully lifted the invincible bow also, Karna certainly deserves some fair treatment.
Its altogether another tale that Draupadhi accepted Arjuna ( who actually appeared in disguise )
May you pls explain why she was so haughty ?
She doesn’t deserve to be treated like a Goddess . For someone who has so much disparity on caste, she doesnt deserve this much elevated status.
I would go one step further >>>>
Becaz of her comments on Duryodhana , he was furious to give a befitting revenge on her & this all culminated to that dice game & subsequent disrobing .
Karna was equally agitated & was upset with her for having passed such comments & also treated with unfairness. He was equally vengefull when she was dragged to the rajyasabha .
though I dont vouch for their misdeeds, the act of Draupadhi one both the occasions, strongly condemnable
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Originally Posted by Nakeeran
QUESTION OF THE DAY
If Kshatriyas WERE the only one for the COMPETITION, how come arjuna was allowed??? he was in DISGUISE as a Bhramin, no one knew the pandavs TRUE identity except Lord Krishna? so how come Arjuna was allowed by Draupadis Father to Participate in the competition ???