The Greatest Indian Epic - Mahabharath

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.Even Gods & Godesses are NOT EXCEPTIONS.!!

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Originally Posted by Nakeeran

Mr. Sudhama

I think you are over glorifying Draupadhi . IMO, Draupadhi was another normal human being for :

1.Having laughed at Duryodhana when he was the guest of honour for their newly constructed palace ( by Mayan )
2.Having denied Karna when he also participated in that skill of archery which was a pre condition to marry Draupadhi.

Duryodhana, after all, is a prince & his Father is an iconic figure, truly a revered one >>> Dridrashtra, considered the Father figure by even Pandavas. I believe, she passed comments like >>> son of a blind man is also blind when Duryodhana slipped & fell on a mirage ( pl clarify if its true ) If she had really uttered such words, well, she deserves much more harsher treatment. No man ( be it Nakeeran or the prince Duryodhana ) will absorb such provocative teasings . DEFINITELY , NOT THE WAY TO TREAT YOUR GUEST.

On her comments against Karna >>> I will not marry a Suta putra >>> If she had such reservations, she should have expressly laid down conditions well before the event so that Karna would not have participated that test. Having made an entry and also for having successfully lifted the invincible bow also, Karna certainly deserves some fair treatment.
Its altogether another tale that Draupadhi accepted Arjuna ( who actually appeared in disguise )

May you pls explain why she was so haughty ?

She doesn’t deserve to be treated like a Goddess . For someone who has so much disparity on caste, she doesnt deserve this much elevated status.

I would go one step further >>>>

Becaz of her comments on Duryodhana , he was furious to give a befitting revenge on her & this all culminated to that dice game & subsequent disrobing .

Karna was equally agitated & was upset with her for having passed such comments & also treated with unfairness. He was equally vengefull when she was dragged to the rajyasabha .

though I dont vouch for their misdeeds, the act of Draupadhi one both the occasions, strongly condemnable

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Yes Dear Nakeera... Well-said.

That is the main point I meant... as her Mistakes.. rather BLUNDERS...

...caused and JUSTIFIED for her Miseries... superficially appearing to be undue to her...

...and that she was INNOCENT.

There are a lot more cases... by which she has proved herself to be ARROGANT, HAUGHTY, HEADWEIGHTED, and a Cheap person of Low-calibre...

...UNFIT to be HONOURED as a Divine birth originated from the holy Homa-Fire... !!

..UNWORTHY to be called as the Princess... of Royal Heirarchy...!!

... and UNDESERVING to be respected as the UNIQUE Queen wedded to three INVINCIBLE WARRIORS.!!!

For the meaningful objections and Valid Question by the enraged Duryodana to Draupadi... while she commented cheap on the Ancestry of Karna... as Sootha-puthra..

"If it is an objectionable Norm to be a Sootha-puthra... to deserve for an offer as Bride-groom...

...then why the hell Karna too was invited and so insulted and denigrated before such a vast assembly of Princes from all over the Nations.?

And Karna asks... if she is so Great as Agni-puthri... she should have invited only Agni-puthras... and Not we the Human-beings.!!

In fact by consideration of the Hosts... the Draupadi's parents...

... the Ancestry factor of Karna was ignored as insignificant criteria and exceptional in the case of Karna...

...whereas it was the striking-objection by the Bride Draupadi... but of ill-mannered comment...

...transgressing the Rudimentary norms of Dignity, Basic standards of Manners and Minimum stipulations of Diplomacy... due in a high Assembly.

On Draupadi's scathing attack and insult... her parents and brother became Spell-bound. They feared to comment.. because it was a delicate factor...

...already an unending vociferous dispute amongst the various Kings... how could Duryodana find Karna qualified to become the King of Anga-desa.?

Getting No reply from anybody... to their WISE AND VALID QUESTIONS.

...under frustration of Karna and Duryodana enraged... they both left out.

Such an undue and unfair insult... became the Root-cause for the Revenge by Karna on Draupadi ...

...when she fell to their FREE DISPOSAL as susceptible...

...caught unaware as an INNOCENT SLAVE OF TOY..

...under the Cruel hands of those Enemies... waiting for a fitting opportunity for Revenge.

...the OTHER EXTREMITY... in return to Draupadi... although the proved haughty.

Consequently they meted out the worst possible treatment... an in-human punishment from any King...

... towards any ordinary Maid-servant... or even a Slave-woman.

One of the Remarkable Lessons from this Greatest Indian Epic... is...

Even GODS AND GODESSES ARE NOT EXCEPTIONS..

...in the Eyes of Dharma... the Humane-Doctrine of Righteousness.!!
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When any person (including REALISED energy mass) is BORN with flesh, tissues and bones,
MAAYA sets in. THEY DO MISTAKES and BLUNDERS.

we do
rama did
krishna did

U NAME anyone and THEY HAVE DONE BLUNDERS.


INSTEAD of justifying their deeds, with a MYTHOLOGICAL stories, ITS wiser to ACCEPT them as they were with their faults, and....

be clever to see only a person's glorious side, to help us reach loftier goals.

Mr. SUdhama

Thank you very much for the explanation.

One thing I wish to mention here again >>> Whatever may be the utterances by Draupadhi, the Kauravas should not have given such a terrible treatment if they had really respected atleast Yudhistira & considering an elder brother's wife as equal to a mother .
This itself is an enough sin for them to get punished severely.
Sadly , Karna, considered to be a noble guy also became part of the wicked group & he also deserved to be punished .

Thanks

I dont know how many people have heard about this but the great mahabaratha is just a story created my man to let the common people understand some morals of lfe. It was not a true event. There is a book called Gitaiyin marupakkam. Look it up.

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God's Dubious Blunders have a lot SENSE BEHIND.!!

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Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha

When any person (including REALISED energy mass) is BORN with flesh, tissues and bones,
MAAYA sets in. THEY DO MISTAKES and BLUNDERS.

we do
rama did
krishna did

U NAME anyone and THEY HAVE DONE BLUNDERS.

INSTEAD of justifying their deeds, with a MYTHOLOGICAL stories, ITS wiser to ACCEPT them as they were with their faults, and....

be clever to see only a person's glorious side, to help us reach loftier goals.

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It is a loose comment to pass on by a Sweeping judgement based on stray thoughts...

... on high values of Indian Epics... the exemplary Heritage.

If anybody is unable to grasp the logic behind some mysterical approaches of Awatharas...

..or unable to get convinced... on any event of Puranas...

... better they learn by reading the relevant AUTHORITATIVE books written exaustively by several learned Scholars like Rt. Honourable Srinivasa Sastry, Justice Mohamad Ismail, U.Ve.Swaminatha Iyer, Ra.Pi. Sethu Pillai, Vai.Mu. Gopala-Krishnamachariar.. and so on.

...instead of hurting others... who regard immensely... those rich treasures of Human-values...

...applicable to all irrespective of Religion and Nationality.

Anybody is welcome to raise their Doubts and Questions here.. in a healthy sense of positive outlook on Life. We all are here to reply.

This Forum is meant for discussions... Exchange of mutual Healthy Thoughts of wise contents.

... and NOT FOR ARGUMENTS OR DEBATE... on pre-conceived notions.

...as also Not to FORCIBLY get thrusted by anybody's PERSONAL INFERENCES.

In brief... Every act of Gods and Godesses.. as per Puranas... have a lot of imbued sense behind... which is the purpose of Awatharas.

...We must try to understand and learn lessons for our Life.

Dear Sakthiprabha... please be specific... What do you mean..

... by equating God and Man at par in committing Mistakes and Blunders.?

If you quote any instance.. we will be able to put forth the other side.

Instead of Vague comments superficially...

...Please come out to pinpoint specifically.
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God's Dubious Blunders have a lot SENSE BEHIND.!!

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Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha

When any person (including REALISED energy mass) is BORN with flesh, tissues and bones,
MAAYA sets in. THEY DO MISTAKES and BLUNDERS.

we do
rama did
krishna did

U NAME anyone and THEY HAVE DONE BLUNDERS.

INSTEAD of justifying their deeds, with a MYTHOLOGICAL stories, ITS wiser to ACCEPT them as they were with their faults, and....

be clever to see only a person's glorious side, to help us reach loftier goals.

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It is a loose comment to pass on by a Sweeping judgement based on stray thoughts...

... on high values of Indian Epics... the exemplary Heritage.

If anybody is unable to grasp the logic behind some mysterical approaches of Awatharas...

..or unable to get convinced... on any event of Puranas...

... better they learn by reading the relevant AUTHORITATIVE books written exaustively by several learned Scholars like Rt. Honourable Srinivasa Sastry, Justice Mohamad Ismail, U.Ve.Swaminatha Iyer, Ra.Pi. Sethu Pillai, Vai.Mu. Gopala-Krishnamachariar.. and so on.

...instead of hurting others... who regard immensely... those rich treasures of Human-values...

...applicable to all irrespective of Religion and Nationality.

Anybody is welcome to raise their Doubts and Questions here.. in a healthy sense of positive outlook on Life. We all are here to reply.

This Forum is meant for discussions... Exchange of mutual Healthy Thoughts of wise contents.

... and NOT FOR ARGUMENTS OR DEBATE... on pre-conceived notions.

...as also Not to FORCIBLY get thrusted by anybody's PERSONAL INFERENCES.

In brief... Every act of Gods and Godesses.. as per Puranas... have a lot of imbued sense behind... which is the purpose of Awatharas.

...We must try to understand and learn lessons for our Life.

Dear Sakthiprabha... please be specific... What do you mean..

... by equating God and Man at par in committing Mistakes and Blunders.?

If you quote any instance.. we will be able to put forth the other side.

Instead of Vague comments superficially...

...Please come out to pinpoint specifically.
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Originally Posted by Badri

It is sad that sometimes the only way we get information about our immortal epics is by way of TV serials.

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How true. Digressive to the discourse, but related I think, I caught "Pandavas" on POGO. I guess they're playing it for a long time now. The animation (by Pentamedia) is poor of course, but that's not a reasion why I couldn't stand the film. (the names Ilaiyaraja or Sujatha interest me more than the animation,etc) Coming to my point, *this* particular adaptation is so underwhelming!

Our ancient history has immense and intrinsic values.

Our various puranas have dealt with in detail the various scientific inventions of today at that time iteself. We are the torch bearers of the entire civilisation. Our Puranas covers each and every aspect of human life.

We have immeasurable ocean of knowledge in our puranas and history. You can see details of even flying an object in air. The medidation which is in its various forms so popular now owes its origin to our puranas.

The unfortunate part is we believe only the western scholarly words and any knowledge posessed by our Tradition is not given any respect and we are the losers.

what was connection with pithamabhisma and shikandi?