"who made kids/elders win just bcos they sang IR songs"
- That's the point! Thanks for understanding :)
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"who made kids/elders win just bcos they sang IR songs"
- That's the point! Thanks for understanding :)
Aduttha panchayat-a :|
enna solreengannu puriyala :?Quote:
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
ithuvum muzhusA puriyala but unga last line'a vechu enna solla varreengannu purinjuthu :lol:Quote:
IR-fan or not, ennaya madhiri kaal-vekkaadu solradhu irukkattum, music therinjavanga kitta kettu paarunga, avinga solluvaanga, provided you remove your ARR-fan glasses :razz:
[Actually indha unmaya unara kaal-vekkaada irundhaalum parava illai, music-a rasikka therinja podhum IMO]
To judge the mettle of a singer (using film music), nothing better than IR songs. End of story!
8-) Appo ellArumE romba talented aana singers pOla irukku ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by viraajan
There is no mistake to miss the listening of a song. But Naan Ketkalai, Athanala "his selection of song is poor and I don't have interest on this song" ellam vadivelu solra mathiri "Chinnapulla thanama" illa iruku.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roshan
My point is, there are many songs of IR which are not easy to sing and require very good capabilities. Of course, all MDs would have songs like this but IR's songs of this kind are overwhelmingly large in number. Please note, the key word is , 'not easy to sing' (not implying songs which are relatively easy to sing are not great). Carnatic and also raga-based (or otherwise) 'mainstream' songs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roshan
Those vids are examples
Though singers in ASS have attempted Raaja songs, for the most part, they wouldn't be songs of the kind i'm mentioning or the singers wouldn't have been able to do full justice. Very rarely would the justice happen. Isayil Thodangudhamma. Enough said.
I can't remember (maybe i've missed some) a contestant successfully taking on a challenging Raaja song. Also, For ARR's case, Vijay not being able to match Rahman in "Theeyil vizhundha thena" (here the complexity/difficulty is more because of pitch and feel IMO rather than the tune itself) - the example here is for 'not being able to do full justice.
"Andha vids, oru paanai sothula sila parukkaigal... " - Can anybody from ASS match any of those singers or songs in those Asianet videos?
Purinjikka mudiyama enna irukku nu enakku purila, Purinja varaikkum sandhosham :) :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Roshan
I have to agree that its not the best selection from Raaja's godown but on the other hand, Vijay doesn't deserve Raaja's honor. So, it figures :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
Bala, you are just taking two totally different examples from ASS and trying to justify your side. In ASS very rarely contestants have made full justice to the original. Andha rare numbers'la IR pAttukkaL athigam. Renu's intha poovilum vaasam undu, Renu sang another song which I dont remember exactly that judges said it was mind blowing - and i remember compli too mentioning abot it in this thread, prasanna and ranjini - muthu maNi maala, Rohith's few numbers, Deepshika's nAnE nAnA, adi aathAdi. Even Barathirajah did well with some IR numbers. Most of Prasanna's IR songs were done quite well - without much to complain.Quote:
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Now coming to ARR's numbers again few were good but sothappalthAN athigam (ARR felicitation episode is one good example) - Leave the pitching and stuff out. ARR vocals - entha kombanaaleyum match paNNa mudiyAthu enguRathu universal truth. Ajish one of the best out of the lot - completely messed up with Duet and May Madham songs but he did well with kayyil mithakkum. Ravi who seems to be having the chances of winning the title - was not impressive with uyirum neeyE, they basically killed MalargaLE. Aruna was really good with Udhaya Udhaya but other ARR numbers she attempted - went simply unnoticed.
Isaiyil thodanguthammA was attempted by Vijay :lol2: paaduRathukku munnAdiyE result therinjiduchu. So adha kaNakkula naan sEthukala. Last year a girl in 'Paadum Office' contest sang isaiyil thodanguthammA brilliantly. Adhula 10% kooda Vijay paadala.
I understand it is not easy to sing ARR, IR or MSV songs most of the time (for that matter even VS songs) . But thiRamai irukkuRavanga paaduvAnga. That's the reason why ASS contestants suck big time compared to Asia Net guys. IdhathAn ennOda mudhal postla solli irukkEn. Malayalam orchestra people are talented and thamizh is not. But idhE thread'la IR paattu vaasikkiRathu kashtamnaanga. Talent illaathavangaLukku ethuvumE kashtamthAn. They are with very limited skills and talents. AthuthAn main reason. mathathellAm secondary. idhathAn nAn solla vanthEn.
And I rest my case :)
Oru statement upfront. Leaving aside all competitions etc and if you basically disagree with IR songs being the tougher of the lot (kootti kazhichu etc), then i'll leave you be with your opinion (similar to what Plum and I expressed in the other thread w.r.t BGM) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Roshan
Its pointless to "argue" or "convince" someone that Thyagaraja composed krithis.
Coming to ASS, etc, the difficult to sing songs in terms of tune (not feel or pitch, which is a different issue) from Rahman were that rhythm song which Ranjani sang well and ...i don't remember
If you leave out pitch and feel, what is left - complexity in tune, gamakams, brigas.... andha vidhathula, universal truth-a!Quote:
Originally Posted by Roshan
Adhu seri :lol2:
These people screwing it up doesn't make these challenging songs.Quote:
Ajish one of the best out of the lot - completely messed up with Duet and May Madham songs but he did well with kayyil mithakkum. Ravi who seems to be having the chances of winning the title - was not impressive with uyirum neeyE, they basically killed MalargaLE. Aruna was really good with Udhaya Udhaya but other ARR numbers she attempted - went simply unnoticed.
But of course. KVM-ayum include pannalaam.Quote:
I understand it is not easy to sing ARR, IR or MSV songs most of the time (for that matter even VS songs) .
Oru "Singaravelane deva", "Isayil Thodangudhamma", "Paartha Vizhi", "Vedham", "Mannil Indha Kaadhal" etc ellam oru rangeu. And endha MD-oda compositions la indha ragam adhigam enbadhu dhaan peche
No doubts on this oneQuote:
But thiRamai irukkuRavanga paaduvAnga. That's the reason why ASS contestants suck big time compared to Asia Net guys. IdhathAn ennOda mudhal postla solli irukkEn.
I have responded to this in TFM Last song thread. adhavadhu, Sachin Tendulkar, Ricky Ponting scored more centuries than any other. So, if someone says "Scoring 30 centuries or thereabouts is very difficult", you will reply "Not at all. Sachin and Ponting have scored many centuries. They have talent. Look at Sadagopan Ramesh. He does not have talent. It is talent that matters and nothing else. Scoring 30 centuries is difficult nu Sachin fans dhaan solluvaanga". Enna logic idhu? :huh:Quote:
Malayalam orchestra people are talented and thamizh is not. But idhE thread'la IR paattu vaasikkiRathu kashtamnaanga. Talent illaathavangaLukku ethuvumE kashtamthAn. They are with very limited skills and talents. AthuthAn main reason. mathathellAm secondary. idhathAn nAn solla vanthEn.
P.S: Talent illadha orchestra-kaarangale "Veerapaandi Kottayile" - assault-a vaasichuttu poittaanga. "Sundhari kannaal oru sedhi" try pannattum (just ore oru example), pakkalaam :wave:
nanRi vaNakkam :)