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Dear Mr.'r_kk',
You have taken my words out of context or have misunderstood.
As I was writing that sentence, I remembered one of our 'forumers' writing something about that the TiS Cd was dusting away in his home and included what you had highlighted to stress the fact that even that is God's will. Pl. read it as whole thing with the previous sentence and not seperately.
BTW, 'kadai viriththOm'...uNmai!
'koLvaarilai'.. is not completely true!
Then, I will be doing an injustice to those who actually supported this and did buy this album.
May be we can say, 'kadai viriththu irukkiROm; innum koNdu sellungaL!'
nanRi.
YIA!
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ananth222,
Thank you very much....
but let me share my opinion...first of all i am the biggest crazy fan of TIS of IR...but after listening to file u posted..i feel IR's TIS has removed the purity , sacredness and seriousness of the CHANTS........IR's songs are mindblowing and masterpieces ....but like any Other symphonies or other such classical works..but dont u guys think it has removed the purity , sacredness and the seriousness of the CHANTS....making them more like commercial ??? i am not at all talking abt talent of IR or creativity of TIS...just talking from CHANTS point of view
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but dont u guys think it has removed the purity , sacredness and the seriousness of the CHANTS....making them more like commercial ???
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A BIG NO !!! listen to umbarkatkarasE and tell me if Raja is singing it commercially ? There may be 100 technical flaws in his rendition, i don't care...The spirit with which he sings is what makes it great. I don't think it has reduced the sacredness of the real text in anyway.
On a different level, how can anyone say this *is* the *only* way to sing a song ??? As long as the spirit of the theme is maintained, any kind of singing is ok.
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...and by the way, who said chanting God's name is serious ??? Its a way to praise the lord, or happily thanking him, revering him. If you are sincere its enuf, you don't have to be serious.
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I think that many of us have grown up listening to "chants" of prayer that only that sounds pious. Thus when a "chant" is going on, it just sounds divine (since we have grown to think that way) and i hardly pay attention to the meaning of the words.
On the other hand, i believe that a song that expresses the emotion of its words and stresses their meanings is much more pious. I think this is the beauty of TiS.
on a more technical note, when these pieces were written, the musical system was not very well developed. atleast when the vedas were written, all the musical notes we use today were sttill not established. So the reciters could use only a few notes to "sing" the verses. As music developed, there arose more ways of expressing emotion using music, but somehow all "chanting" stuck to the same old standards. By the time of the great trinity of carnatic music, the system became so well developed with so many raagas, so many subtle emotions could be expressed. In fact, the krithis of this period are just amazing in the way they express emotion and are at the same time extremely devout. A perfect example of this is "duddugugala" by St Tyagaraja. This is an amazing song that makes you "feel" the emotions of the words.
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ananth222, I beg to differ from you in this regard. A vedic chant [ For eg take the Gayathri mantra ] has few notes that is meant to create certain spiritual vibration [Like the OM chant is akin to the primordial sound] to the listener and it is not meant to showcase any musical beauty.
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Guys, don't forget the very intention of why IR made TIS/TIO/TBI the way it is right now.
He wants to lure the young & also those who are not familiar with Thiruvasagam. You can't lure them with carnatic music or any other kinda "seriousness". If he had done it that way, even I wouldn't have bought this CD.
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yeah i think both THUMBURU and ISAI RASIGAN are correct ...
I am clear now... ;)
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but again where youth will prefer IR ...99% TIS listeners and appreciaters will be 'not youth ' and matured and intellectual ....
Maybe if AR does it....... like for vandemataram ...........with all beats in thiruvasakam , then youth will try to understand saint maanickavasagar...ha ha hhaaa
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By looking at all the attendees at the release & from various posts & newsgroups both in India & around the world, I believe IR has already gotten the interest of all kinda youth....ie. the happenin' kind & the 'matured & intelectual' kind. At the same time he did not forget the middle age & older folks.
If IR wanted to lure just only the happenin' youths, then he would have visited his 80's techono beats & funk and interwoven it into Thiruvasagam. :)
