A shame

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_..._by_crime_rate

Also see this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Detroit

ajithfederer,
unga ooru stats ingE:

If one queries here for the Phily metro area, it reports 482 murders in 2007. This is official, police department figure.
http://ucr.psp.state.pa.us/UCR/Repor...mOffenseUI.asp

One wonders where arasu got his smaller number? If for such a simple info published on the web arasu cannot be accurate, what can be told about his numbers for the terror troubled / war torn regions? vAikku vandhapadi EdhAvadhu ezhudha vENdiyadhu dhAnE?

Can arasu also give stats as to how many travelled in 2007 from Chennai to Phily v/s Chennai to Jaffna / Kabul / Babylon etc?:-)

And ajithfederer,

Forget about Clinton, what is (or "what was" around the time when rOjA got released) the perception of an average Indian about Kashmir? Why the huge tourism industry surrounding dall lake got eroded? Why so much money has to be spent for "z" securities for all political figures (including those ousted out of their offices)

muzhuppoosaniyai sOththukkuL maRaikkum muyaRchi allavA idhu? And you yourselves live in Phily as a "common" person, do you feel more comfortable to visit Afghan or Iraq than your downtown, honestly?

I was just conforming with the number given by the author. And yes most of the times its due to personal vendetta / gangwars and in half of the cases its an attempt to robbery. :)

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Originally Posted by app_engine

ajithfederer,

Don't you see that in this case arasu has given an 'ara vEkkAdu' badhil? First of all, he doesn't even comprehend the difference between a state and a city (Phily is not a state but a city). In addition, ethnic conflicts / terrorism should not be considered at par with local crime / vandalism etc. You may know better about the local situation but I doubt whether any "ethnic conflict / terrorism" is going on in Phily. Another nonsense is that those were 'common' people that got killed, which is debatable. I live in the metro area of a city rated worse in crime than Phily (I think Detroit is #1 in U.S. currently) and most who get killed are in gang-wars, particularly related to drug trade. There are cases of innocents getting killed in "being in the wrong place at the wrong time", but most locals understand which areas to avoid at what times and it's quite unusual to hear about any visitors getting killed. (And you know how thorough the local media reports crime here, unlike back home).

However, I agree that with the easy availability of guns, safety is a very big concern in mega cities in U.S., despite excellent efforts of law-enforcing authorities.

Even with guns not so freely available, I think our cities (Delhi / Mumbai / Chennai/ Kolkota) must be having similar numbers - due to rowdyism, political rivalry, family conflicts etc. Many don't get reported at all or even when reported, they may be "covered up" (as suicide / heart attack for e.g.)

However, I can understand in one context -that is to give back what Clinton gave us. Unfortunately, it's so late:)

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Downtown than :lol:

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Originally Posted by app_engine

And ajithfederer,

Forget about Clinton, what is (or "what was" around the time when rOjA got released) the perception of an average Indian about Kashmir? Why the huge tourism industry surrounding dall lake got eroded? Why so much money has to be spent for "z" securities for all political figures (including those ousted out of their offices)

muzhuppoosaniyai sOththukkuL maRaikkum muyaRchi allavA idhu? And you yourselves live in Phily as a "common" person, do you feel more comfortable to visit Afghan or Iraq than your downtown, honestly?

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ajithfederer:-)

I actually love arasu badhilkaL, right from my childhood, for the wit. However, mostly the arasu badhilkaL are for fun and not to be taken that seriously. To bring them up here in a somewhat more serious discussion and to create as if Phily were worse than Baghdad with a view to start another "blame-west-for-everything-propaganda" is quite mischievous, IMO.

And as you've rightly pointed out, while those killed were probably mostly AA, they were the majority in the killing group as well. Pretty obvious that these are gang wars and local crime.

No doubt there is discrimination (though not officially or legally but in a 'old-habits-die-hard' way) which unfortunately partly -only partly - contributes to their lack of employment, poverty and in-turn drugs / crime. However to cite that racism as the direct reason for crime is unacceptable IMO. For eg, Detroit is >80% AA and typically crime is not committed against them by non-AA:-(

And to compare this with what's happening in places where pograms and ethnic cleansing stuff is taking place is outrageous. I think arasu suffers from a syndrome similar to that of the 'katRadhu Thamizh' hero, who condemns call-center guy for his personal problems. (Interestingly, it's a very different story when arasu writes about N Modi whom he consistently condemns. If someone asks the same question again, if he is in a different mood, Phily will probably be replaced by Gandhinagar:) )

Finally, a personal invitation to arasu (oru vELai vAsikkalAm)-

I'll be happy to take you today to my son's performance in the school drama with my very close friend of AA origin or to the funeral home to see my another close AA friend's mom's body to pay homage (plus attend the funeral ceremony next saturday) and these will be attended by majority AA....all in the crime #1 city in U.S. and also to walk around anywhere in downtown or metro area with me and attend similar everyday events.

After staying around for a month or so with us - like a typical, local, common person (and not some apartment-office-mall-apartment kind of "typical alien" lifestyle), then write what you really feel in your badhilkaL:-)

chummA Clinton mEla uLLa veRuppaikkAtta vAikku vandha padi pEsakkoodAdhu:-(

eeyaththai paarththu iLichchathaam piththaLai kathaiyaa irukku!!! :lol:

http://dailythanthi.com/article.asp?...sdate=5/4/2008

It's a shame that often innocent mates (mostly women whose husbands frequented prostitutes) and poor children (unborn / at birth etc) have to pay such a big price:-(

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நோய் தடுப்பு திட்டங்கள்

எய்ட்ஸ் நோயால் தாய், தந்தையை இழந்து அனாதையாகிவிட்ட குழந்தைகளை காப்பாற்றுவதற்காக ரூ.5 கோடியில் அறக்கட்டளை ஒன்று அமைக்கப்படும் என்று முதல்-அமைச்சர் கருணாநிதி அறிவித்துள்ளார். இந்தியாவிலே முதன்முறையாக இந்த அறக்கட்டளை அமைக்கப்படுகிறது.

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ini thaan panna poraangala? :oops:

vizhippunarvu erpaduthuvathai thavira arasaangam vera enna pannudhu?

enakku romba naala oru sandegam, why cant they abolish prostitution? wiki has a lot to say :?

thappa eduthukkaatheenga ..edho aarvathil ketkiren :(

AIDS/ HIV kids innocents :( :(