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I know.. that is obvious. but just such a compromise is something we really dont want to associate IR with. But then, we need to face it.. that even he does compromise at times.. esp when it comes to singer selections.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
That is exactly my point. There was a contention that IR songs are better due to (or worse, for lack of) new sounds. A song does not become good or bad just because of "new sound". Its like changing font - we don't use old style fonts now, but that doesn't make the text much better. Just makes it easier to read for the current generation. Someone who comes up with a "new font" can't be credited with changing literature just for that contribution.Quote:
Originally Posted by raagas
And when did IR define "new sound" as "new music"? I mean, did he say that somewhere?
anantn2222, yes, when Raja was about Rahman's current-age, he was talking about new sounds, using new instruments like 'Recorder' etc.But that wasnt his prime agenda even then, but it was an aspect he gave lot of importance then
Look ehre for personal experiences of a fan, and actual letters from IR to the fan:
http://isai-alias-raja.blogspot.com
Yes, but he didn't say that that is "new music". (We already agreed that IR, those before him, and those after him have all intrduced new sounds)
yeah, new sounds isnt big deal. Thats happening all the time. Even Chandrabose's sounds were 'new' or 'different' compared to IR's. Its not a big deal really. Thats got nothing to do with 'music'. Basically, we agree on the semantics
Thanks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
My only point is, don't write off a music album just cos it doesn't have enough "new sounds". a lot of people won't read a good book just cos the font is not appealing. But they'll read through crap if the font is nice. And then they'll rave about it, just cos they managed to sit and read the whole book. Its an unfortunate reality that such superficial things are extremely significant in marketing art, but I'd hope that the people who take the trouble to come and post on music discussion forums will be a little more motivated.
Or maybe its just a case of: http://e1.simplecdn.net/slashw/duty_calls.png
I have a theory that IR's quest for new sounds got stalled from the time of MTK :-( i.e. when he worked with MSV in close contact.
Possibly from that point he wanted to focus more on melody part and compete in that area. Ofcourse there were sound innovations beyond that point for some MR movies and such but they were probably initiated more by the producer / director than IR, IMO. OTOH, prior to that, he was always seeking sounds (senO reetA, madai thiRandhu, endRendum AnandhamE...we can keep listing many)
I agree innovative sounds != innovative music, but they definitely set trends and are cooool:-)
NK ( 2 gems), NL (3 gems), AM (2 gems so far), vAlmIki (4 gems so far) and other language scores (bhAgya dEvatha had a couple of nice songs)...IR is on a roll.
Reminds me of my collge days when there'll be a disc every other week with 2-3 great numbers. Frequent visits to "recording centers" with TDK cassettes / walkman running a variety of IR songs all the time.
That he is repeating such feat after 25 years is incredible, to say the least!
app_engine,
Yes, I was thinking on the similar lines..
How can a guy come out with fresh music even after thousands of sittings spanning over 33 years ?!
It is a wonder that this guy's brain has not yet gone mad !!
app_eng,
To your score I would conservatively add: Bhagyadevatha (3 gems), Nannavanu (3 gems - atleast 2 :), Bhagyada Belagara (2 gems). And all these are gems, not just 'good' songs, mind you :)
After hearing the 'gaana' songs in Valmiki, I am looking forward to such songs in 'Madhiya Chennai'.