NagaS,the above quote should answer your question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitya
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NagaS,the above quote should answer your question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitya
Cinefan,
technology-layae adikkaReenga :) Thanks :)
NagaS
Naga :) :)
Kiru,
I have the same impression about Malayalam lyrics.. YOu could see very few non-mallu words ( i mean english ) and it makes the song so native and authentic. unlike the tamil lyrics .. I do not know abt non-IR Mal albums in this regard. But i always find MFM albums of IR to be very good in lyrics..atleast to the extent i understand Mal :-)
On a side note, Even in regular Mal conversations say on Surya /Kairali TV etc, I see the anchors using very few english words compared to the thamil kaavalrgals in SUN and other tamil channels.
Cheers
MSK
Hi Nitya,
No offense meant.. What do yo mean by saying the songs are not fresh. I guess are you looking for a scale that has not been used by him before or a creative way of handling an already used scale or something in orchestration or using new/traditional instruments..
Just curious .. From a layman's point of view, i thought when you say fresh, you do not get reminded of another song when you listen to it. For ex, the moment i listen to a Deva /SAR song, there is a very good chance that before i get to the second interlude, my mind starts searching the database for a old song that matches exactly..
Cheers
MSK
"For ex, the moment i listen to a Deva /SAR song, there is a very good chance that before i get to the second interlude, my mind starts searching the database for a old song that matches exactly.. "
MSK, thats the way I felt about all songs in Kaasi and some of the recent albums. The feeling that you have already heard it before. Its not just about using a new scale or rhythm pattern. Even using the same raga that he has done several times before he still came up with fresh tunes for Yaathramozhi/Guru and to a certain extent Kochu Kochu santhoshangal. The overall presentation(which was fresh in those albums) is missing in almost all of his recent albums. For example "Piraye piraye" resembles Puththam pudhu poo poothadho in more than a few places. Another song "thalaattum kaatre( a harharan number from some film) resembles mayiloram mayile and so on. You can sense a distinct lack of inspiration in his works, especially if you have heard his music long enough and have a certain sense/feel for his style of music and for music in general.
I havent listened to Achuvinte amma yet but Ponmudi Puzhayorathu and Manasinakkare were duds mostly.
Karagattakaari is pretty medicore stuff. Deva could have come up with those tunes in his sleep. In fact in the mid-90s Deva was actually giving better tunes than IR. One shouldnt be doing films like this at this stage in his career. I am disappointed that IR still accepts movies like this.
Vijay,
Lack of inspiration -- I agree. But i do see a reason for it and i have said that before.. so let us not get into that again :-)
I also agree with Ponmudi Puzhayprathu.. But I was pretty impressed with Manasinnakkare.. atleast 2 songs were really good.. - Mellaiyonnu and Thangathingal Vaanil - atleast i could not see them as re-hashes..do you think so.
Cheers
MSK
IR's salary is Rs 1.5 million. But for Mumbai Express Kamal has paid IR a whopping Rs 2.5 million.
http://www.dailythanthi.com/cn/cn_ho...8/2005&secid=2
Venky, I do like the song. No, I am not listening to Deva :-).Quote:
Originally Posted by crvenky
I think IR is playing the same notes as with the harmonium, but he added some counterpoints. Maybe, you dont like the single note harmonies which are played on the synth keyboard, for the first few lines of the pallavi. The orchestration is done fully using the synth :-( and style wise is very similar to niRam piriththu in time.
The song though reminds me of some MSV tune (during the charanams) , even the first interlude seems like that.
IR goes to extremes with anything, he is using full electronic sounds in atleast one song in a movie. The approach seems to be that of Enya and Vangelis - push the limits of electronic sounds in a composition. The idea is not to give a different flavor of a real instruments, but actually a different sound for a note. In this song, notice, the single note harmonies and the "wow, wow" sounds.
(Another eg. oLiyilE therivadhu in azhagi has an pure acoustic counterpart in the BGM, very western classical sounding. I wish I heard that kind of sound with the song).
(I mention Enya because I see direct references to Enya :-) in KR - IR's collaborators work).
'thaalaattum katRe' ? are you talking abt the song by shankar mahadevan in the movie poovellaam un vaasam ? that was by VidyaSagar.
Reg., IR's recent albums, I have a few points (purely my opinion, I am not trying to prove anything here :))
1. If he does karakaattakkaari kind of movies for that 1.5 million rupees, I think we can't say its wrong. Afterall, its good money with less effort / time and he is using his 'fluency' that he developd all these years to finish such albums fast and earn something - whats wrong ? are we going to pay him that 1.5 million if we object him picking those songs ? (Its like jayamohan writing vasanam for a kaathal movie, or balakumaran writing for manmadhan :)
2. Even if we are talking about 'freshness', I think something should be there in the movie to inspire the MD, if the movie is good and the music is not upto the mark, we can say IR failed - to my knowledge, whenever there is a 'challenging' script, IR gives his best and there is no doubt abt it. From the day he became a 'notable' MD of TFM, tll date, Even in the last few years, I don't remember an instance, where the movie had scope for good music and IR gave second rate songs ! He always tries his best and obviously, he is not getting Sindhu Bairavi / GuNa kind of movies everyday !
3. I am expecting a lot from Balu Mahendra's 'Athu oru Kanaak kaalam' and Fazil's next movie.
NagaS