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Originally Posted by joe
I wish Mohan raman sir come to this thread and share his experience with our one and only nadigar Thilagam
What is ironic is that.........V.C. expanded by all of us as Villipuram Chinnaiah Pillai.....is all wrong. Mr. B.N.Pillai who was the manager in Sivaji Films filled up the official forms with the information he knew....Sivaji was born in Villupuram as his father was posted by the railways there......it is not his "native" place. The V actually was for VETTAITHIDAL , his father's name was Chinnaiah MANDRAYAR.....,they are not Pillai's. But the Pillai is something people in that district added to all names as a form of respect...thus Vettaithidal Chinnaiah Mandrayar Ganesan became Villipuram Chinnaiah Ganesan.
However as Shakespeare said a Rose by any other name would still smell as sweet.
Lovely thread...thanks Joe.
wow!thanks Mohan raman sir.
I knew about Mantradiyar ,but not VETTAITHIDAL .
when ever you have time ,pls visit this thread and share with us more details on How was the experience of watching nadigar thilagam movies on release days( which most of the hubbers never enjoyed) and how was fans reactions.
Joe...
I watched Uyarntha Manithan few days back, excellent..
The way Nadigar Thilagam says the great (one guys name) was a classic..
MohanRaman Sir,
We are very happy to see a celebrity over here and posting nice information on Shivaji.
I am sure you will be quite busy with your shootings and other works.
Whenever you get time please share us some good information on Nadigar Thilagam and Makkal Thilagam. Also would like to view your opinions and experiences with other actors too.
Thanks.
:D
Also the songQuote:
Originally Posted by Tirupathi
Antha Naal Nyabagam. What a stylish performance by Nadigar Thilagam.
This song is one among the songs where we will never feel that they are acting for someone else's voice.
:)
That was the best friendship song..
I also liked Old arrogant getup Nadigar Thilagam, sometimes i see this kind of movies, i wonder whether he is acting or just his own character like that..
Thanks to all of you for the welcome.Yes, will try to post....l was not allowed to see the films on the first day...first show...MGR's office would have told my dad,who thought it was unsafe ... I managed a number in the first week.
NO MGR OR SIVAJI FAN WAS PAID A RUPEE TO CELEBRATE THE RELEASE WITH BANNERS/STARS ETC. Sadly I cannot say that today....for most heroes.I remember that they once took the film cans in a procession from the Station to the theatre on the day of the release on the back of an Elephant.This was done because of the terrific adulation people had for these two mega stars. Imagine....it is now more than 20 years and 4 years respectively since they attained immortality and we are still discussing them....That is enough proof of their greatness.
True..
Rightly said sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by mohanraman
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Movie : Kai Kodutha Theyvam.
Lyrics : Subramanya Bharathiyaar.
Sindhu nadhiyin misai nilavinilae
chaera nannaatilam pengal udanae
sundhara thelunginil paattisaithu
thoanigal oatti vilaiyaadi varuvoam
gangai nadhippurathu goadhumai pandam
kaaviri vetrilaikku maarukolluvoam
singa maraattiyartham kavidhaikondu
saerathu thandhangal parisalippoam
singala theevinukkoar paalamamaippoam
saedhuvai maeduduththi veedhi samaippoam
vangaththil oadi varum neerin migaiyaal
vaiyaththu naadugalil payir seyyuvoam
This song of Mahakavi was given life through Shivaji's acting.
What a command in the way Shivaji expresses the lyrics.
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piLLai, ambalam etc have been commonly used as a "surname" for mukkulaththOrs. I am told Shivaji Ganeshan belongs to kaLLar/Thever community and so he got that "surname" as piLLai! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mohanraman
Good post by mr.mohanram. :thumbsup:
Thirumaran,
thanks for the wonderful Lyrics..See my avatar from the same song.
Nice Avatar Joe.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
As usual it rocks.
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One grand anti-hero performance which I enjoyed is "Annayin Aanai".
The famous scene where his wife scratches him and rips his banian is extremely tense. He makes you bite your nails about his next move....all with a bare minimum of words. Marvellous performance.
I was going through a thread on multiple roles and found that many talk of Sivaji's abilities without bothering to see his movies - he has spoken several dialects....especially within tamilnadu like kovai, madurai etc.Not just that but he has also done a rich man's stylish tamil as well as a pattikaadu tamil, all in the same movie. Those who mentioned Sivaji's lack of dancing ability have probably not seen "thhokku thookki" or even the theru koothu in Navarathri or the sivathandavam in Thiruvilayadal. What Sivaji learnt by observation stood him in good stead for 275 plus films - as the lead male performer.Let us talk of the other aspirants for the title "best actor" after they have crossed say 200 plus films.We cannot and should not belittle the achievements of those who were trendsetters like Bhagavathar,PUchinnappa,Ranjan,m k radha etc. Sivaji started his stage career as a "sthreepart" player his performance as Noorjehan is still rated by those who saw him then as one of the best.He played full length lady roles...not a man dressed as a woman.If you want to see him as a woman watch the film Gowri .I am giving vent to my feelings in this thread as I do not want to wound fans of other actors...by drawing comparisons.....who is greater Gavaskar or Tendulkar or Richards or Sobers or Bradman.....come on. Movies are meant to be enjoyed and a good and convincing performance by any actor is to be appreciated.Let us rise above petty comparisons......Having said all this Sivaji of course is GREAT.
Mohanram sir well said :clap: :clap: though i like Kamal , i dont want shivaji to be degraded .
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My respects to the legend .
thanks you dont need to clap for my post ...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
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I agree, but with some reservation. Movies and performances are to be enjoyed as wholesome and independent units. But that does not make a case for dismissing comparisons altogether.Quote:
Originally Posted by mohanraman
Comparing the performances of people in similar situations helps appreciate things better.Even intergenerational comparsions would still be possible if we go about it reasonably. I cannot help think of Vasantha Maaligai when i watch Vaazhvey Maayam. When I watched 'Pagal Nilavu' this weekend I was parallely thinking of Nayagan.
That said I do concede that most comparisons we do, atleast in the Hub, end up being petty :-)
PR, you can add 'Andha Naal' too to the list. Of course not exactly an anti-hero, but void of any heroic qualities nonetheless. Watch out for his expressions when Pandaribai aims the pistol at him towards the end. His expression changes from fear to disbelief to pleading as he tries to make her see that he is afterall her husband. And he is evil personified in 'Uththama Puththiran' ('idhayum thaduththal thaai endrum paarka matten', when his mother pleads not to have his brother masked).Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Andha Naal is one of my all-time favourite films. All the murder-reconstructions have Sivaji enacting the role of Rajan as perceived by the person who is narrating it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kannannn
Mohanraman sir,
Thanks for wonderful post!
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V.O.Chidambaram's own son ,while watching the movie 'Kappalottiya Thamizhan' in a theatre ,forgot he was watching a movie and cried"Appa!Appa!" .Later he confesed he didn't see sivaji,but his father on screen..hmmm..there is no award in this world equal to this...
Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
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உனக்கு தேசிய விருது கிடைக்கவில்லையாம்!
குடகு மலையைக் கடந்தாயா என
இமய மலையைக் கடந்தவனிடம் கேள்வி!
பிரான்சுக்கும் எகிப்துக்கும் தெரிந்த உண்மை -இங்குள்ள
பீஷ்மர்களுக்கு மட்டும் தெரியாதாம்!
சிதம்பரனார் செல்ல மகன்
சினிமா என்பதையும் மறந்து
"ஐயோ அப்பா!" என்றரற்றினாராமே! -இந்த
சிறப்புக்கு முன் ஆஸ்கார் எந்த மூலைக்கு?
விண்ணுலகில் கூட...
சிவனும் ,சிதம்பரனாரும்
கட்டபொம்மனும் ,கர்ணனும்
அப்பரும் ,அம்பிகாபதியும்,
ஜார்ஜ்-ம் ,சாக்ரட்டீசும்
கண்ணாடி பார்ப்பதற்கு பதில்
உன் முன்னாடி தான் நிற்கிறார்களாமே?
-ஜோ
Joe,Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
Arputham.
Is this written by you?
:)
Yes,Ofcourse!Quote:
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Superb...
:thumbsup:
Thirumaran,
I sent a PM to you..Pls check!
Joe,
I have cheked my PM.
Sent u a message too.
:D
:D
He played 300 different roles
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/m...0400180300.htm
Sivaji Ganesan... a complete artiste in every sense.
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/f...1900990600.htm
Talent, charisma and much more
In the history of cinema, no other actor has played such an incredible variety of roles. But initially all was not hunky-dory for Sivaji Ganesan, says RANDOR GUY, in aninteresting recollection.
SIVAJI GANESAN (ORIGINAL name, Villupuram Chinnaiya Ganeshamurthy), the mighty oak of Tamil movies, has returned to his roots in Mother Earth. The great screen presence, that inimitable voice capable of reflecting and registering even the minutest change of hue and colour in the spectrum of human emotions, the indefinable factor, charisma and more, that elevated a mere V. C. Ganesan to Sivaji Ganesan, can now only be seen and heard in the rich legacy of the 300 plus movies he has left behind.
He had played an incredible variety of roles in his long career - thief, king, cult figures, historical characters, rebel, playboy, labour leader, mythological figures, religious personalities, selfish man, unselfish head of the family... you name it and he has played that role to perfection!
Indeed in the history of cinema no other actor has played such wide and winsome range of roles. And he was never typecast for a particular role like most stars of today. Excepting perhaps for the stunts-oriented action roles, he felt at home in every role!
Even though he woke up one fine morning, like Lord Byron, and found himself famous with ``Parasakthi'' (1952), he had his first dip in the waters of cinema earlier in ``Nirabaradhi''(1951). Made in Telugu and Tamil by the sadly forgotten pioneer, the Grand Old Man of South Indian cinema, H. M. Reddi, it had Mukkammala Krishnamurthy as the hero, in both versions. As he could not speak Tamil, Reddi looked round for suitable voice to dub the dialogue for the hero, and he found a young struggling stage actor named V. C. Ganesan! The voice-lender received a princely sum of five hundred rupees!
Even in ``Parasakthi'' some had doubts if he were the right choice. Indeed shooting was stopped for some time and better actors were considered to replace the new man. But the main man of the project, P. A. Perumal (known as PAP among his pals), stood firmly like a mighty rock refusing to replace his first choice. The rest, as the cliche goes, is history. No wonder Sivaji Ganesan revered P. A. Perumal as his God on earth.
When ``Parasakthi'' was undergoing its birth pangs, another film, ``Poonkothai'' faced similar problems. Indeed in this film Sivaji Ganesan played the supporting role (known as second hero in the local filmland lingo) with the Telugu film star, A. Nageswara Rao as hero. Interestingly in the initial ads promoting the film his name appeared as V. C. Ganesan and not as Sivaji Ganesan!
Stardom did not come to him on a silver platter even after ``Parasakthi'' as many are inclined to think today. In the early 1950s he had to struggle, for some of his films did not fare well at the box-office. ``Andha Naal''(1954) the first song-dance less Tamil film, in which he played the then not so popular anti-hero, won him high praise but the film did not do well money-wise. Very few are aware that Sivaji Ganesan was the third actor to play the role. The film was begun with S. V. Sahasranamam cast in the lead role and as he was thought to be rather old he was replaced by that fine actor, Calcutta N. Viswanathan who was then knocking on the doors of Tamil cinema with no success. (Later he did act in Tamil films and played many character roles brilliantly.) For some reason he too was removed, and entered Sivaji Ganesan with bells on.
Who inspired Sivaji Ganesan as his role model in his career? While he created his roles with his own genius and observation of real life persons, he did draw inspiration from that actor's actor and the brilliant Hollywood superstar, Spencer Tracy. Observant visitors to his Shanthi theatre on Anna Salai, in Chennai, would have noticed above the entrance to the balcony class a photo showing him and Spencer Tracy. It was taken in Hollywood, when he visited it in the early 1960s. (During a chat some years ago, he told this writer about his adoration for Spencer Tracy. ``I took ideas from his style of walking to form my own style!'' he said.)
Did Sivaji Ganesan overact as remarked by many? The answer is yes and no! His background was Tamil theatre. In theatre one has to be loud - gestures, voice, emotions, and all. Consequently he could not escape such legacy. The other telling reason is the Tamil cinema of that day - its producers, directors and writers. They took advantage of his incredible memory, talent and skill to speak reams of jaw-breaking alliterative, high-flown Tamil dialogue in a single take of the shot. And they found gold in it! In every other film of his they introduced historical and other plays, or scenes specially written for him. It was a kind of exploitation! Ashoka the Great, Akbar, Othello (both in Tamil and English! ) Cheran Senguttuvan.. and many more, he did them all. Sivaji Ganesan, the great actor may be gone but his films shall live forever.
As somebody remarked a movie actor never dies for he shall always live in his movies. So will Sivaji Ganesan
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/2...s/09270225.htm