IR News and Other Titbits Ver.2009

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Originally Posted by rajasaranam

Interstingly this weeks 'Kumudam' carries an Article by 'Gnani' on Margazhi Katcheris. He writes about Thayaraja Swamigal and his genius. He also writes that Thayagaraja though a religious person was also a socially aware citizen. He had witnessed such musical genius talent Only in Ilaiyaraaja after Thyagaraaja, but adds on a question about What has Raaja done? (for the society Probably! It is Natural to Expect a genius to be socially aware person but when he is not, why dont we accept him as such and enjoy his music?). In the last week issue of Kumudam too he wrote about PAA and said he liked the 'new Style' Music of Raaja and the BGM was apt for the Movie. We can only be happy that This guy atleast acknowledges the Genius of Raaja.

He termed Chaaru as 'Madhu Maadhu komali' in the same issue :lol:

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I thought he always did that.

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Originally Posted by Plum

par, it is a song called "selan e suktun nakasa". Try searching for that phrase - you might get it. Long back when I was visiting a Turkish neighbourhood in london, I heard this song and confirmed with them that it was scored in 1960's. Apparently, it is based on a traditional turkish hymn which is always sang by families when gathering for Christmas.*. Do spread the word. You will be a hero.
* I hope I got the format of baseless insinuation in the uyirmmais right :lol:

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No, thanks. I am already happy with what I am. :D

RS,

Plum is on the dot regarding what Raja was trying to convey.

As you perceptively said, people seem to know that Raja still sells and they try to keep controversies alive to rake in the moolah. Can't help it.

I feel there is no sense discussing Charu, Gnani or Shaaji because none of them has proved that they are music critics or they are any way better in their musical knowledge than ordinary folks like us. The best answer would be not to take them seriously. They do have a following but then why take the followers seriously either? !!

It is only in the Tamil Film Music milieu that we can have people who are more into literature, talk about music without knowing much about it. If the same happens in the Western world the concerned author would be asked to shut up. Music criticism is a big deal there. Here, all the authors declare, 'I don't know much about music' and then go on to give their opinions :lol: For some unknown reason they seem to believe that being authors and being able to express their thoughts well automatically gives them musical knowledge !!! As I said, we just need not worry about them if they talk such nonsense in their magazines or blogs. The right approach would be to go to the concerned blogs or to the magazine and register our view. But do you think it is worthwhile visiting Charu's blog? I can think of zillion better things to do, including watching paint dry. So, as the song goes, 'freea vidu freea vidu freea vidu mame' :)

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Originally Posted by rajasaranam

He also writes that Thayagaraja though a religious person was also a socially aware citizen. He had witnessed such musical genius talent Only in Ilaiyaraaja after Thyagaraaja, but adds on a question about What has Raaja done?

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rajasaranam,
Just curious (and yes, off-topic :)), what did he have to say regarding what Thyagaraja "did for the society?" Or did he simply recall that the the man was a socially aware and good person?

P.S.: I know that Gnani had made some criticisms regarding TIS, but have not actually read the article(s) in question.

I think Raaja has answered some of his critics by saying
"I am not a great person, but great music flows out of me"
matra kazhisadaigaLai odhukkith thaan thaLLa vendum.
I say Raaja neeenga pesaama budapest poidungo.
ange okkandhundu albums pannungo. Indha paithiyakkaara naatle ungalukku enna Velai. u have given this place more than its due.
Rahman (not for comparison) paarunga, oru sila padangal pannoma, bombay flighta pudichoma, londonla land aanomaannu irukkar paarunga. andha maadhiri kelambunga saar. pop music circles illainnaalum, WCM la u have to give more. Carnaticla neenga potta madhyamavathikkum keeravaanikkum innum evanum badhil sollala.

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Originally Posted by Sureshs65

The best answer would be not to take them seriously.
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Here, all the authors declare, 'I don't know much about music' and then go on to give their opinions :lol:
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So, as the song goes, 'freea vidu freea vidu freea vidu mame' :)

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Beautifully put, Sureshji :-)

Personally I've got convinced sometime back that nursery rhymes themselves are a big deal (hard to compose things like those which last practically for centuries)! Not many TFM songs can compete with an "ants go marching" song IMSO!

On top of it, this guy also disses prayer songs - again very tough to compose as they need to evoke great feelings and last much longer than pop songs!

With this kind of attitude, how good can a person write about any music at all, even if he has great musical knowledge?

Interestingly, I was just getting irritated with his BoneyM comments and telling myself to ignore this guy hereafter and our rs jumps in with another uyirmai stuff!

...இவன் கூட சேர்ந்து ஜெயமோகனுக்கும் இது மாதிரி "இசை ரசனை" வராம இருந்தா நல்லது...

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

Rahman (not for comparison) paarunga, oru sila padangal pannoma, bombay flighta pudichoma, londonla land aanomaannu irukkar paarunga. andha maadhiri kelambunga saar.

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Aaha avaru veru mathirunga neenga avar screen appearance kodutha Azhagar Malai pattai kettupaarunga

app_eng,

This seem to be the time of authors as far as Tamilnadu is concerned. The newly discovered reach through Internet is driving many of them to express their views on almost everything. Given that each author has his / her own following, they go ahead and write what they please !!

For a minute pause and think what would happen in US if some well known and well respected author were to write such nonsense on some popular band, say LedZepplin. You can be rest assured that the author would be torn to bits. Here, somehow we give too much respect and leeway to authors and think 'maybe there is something in what he / she is saying' even when they write pure nonsense !! We take all views of the literary person too seriously.

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Originally Posted by rajasaranam

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Originally Posted by Sanjeevi

uYirmai sucks big time. Even I lost respect to manushyaputhiram. Ivanunga ethukku 'siru pathirikkai', 'Ilakkiyam'-ngura pOrvaiyula masala article koduthukittu irukkanunga

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when I bought the magazine I never expected such an article. the front cover had a Raaja photo with caption 'Ilaiyaraaja Netrum Indrum'. I also witnessed (during my brief stay at Uyirmai stall @ Book Exhibition) many other people buying the magazine only for the face of Raaja on the cover. I Heard one person asking "Raaja pathi ithu thodar katturaiyaa?" and then opting to buy only the magazine after being prompted for a yearly subscription.

They have now known that Raaja sells still and are encashing on it! They want the dead Controversies to be alive so that chaaru can drink free of cost. I've seen people in Tasmac who comes inside with a 'Cutting' and then asking for water and a little side dish from some unknown people. Chaaru has stopped down lower than those people who can afford to buy their own drinks atleast. This guy is the epitome of 'Echa Kudi' and now he has got an ally in the name of 'Shaji', Thoooo... Ithellaam oru Pozhappu.

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Thala No tension. Relax .Vidunga elathukkum Kaalam bathil solum.

The problem with these leftist writers like Gnani or Charu is that they will have a communist lens to look at everything, even at artists.
I have a similar friend who will hate IR, just because he expects IR to nurture his musicians and bring them to his level !! And he will want him not to be religious !
Typical communist attitude :-)