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And statements like `IR is in this position ONLY because of fans' or `partners' etc is partly absurd, i.e. the ONLY word is stupid.
Most of his once-upon-a-time fans / partners have dumped him for others already. It's a fact that many other names sell more than him in the market today. In movie field (and often in business field too), there's no loyalty. That he is still able to get assignments is a testimony to his musical skills (and may be PRO skills)...
RS!
Check yr pm (just to avoid digression).
If U feel it needs attention, pls bring it to the forum.
And about TiS-USA getting just some CD's in discount and not their loan amount back....
1. I think the whole idea in the beginning was only to get "donations" from NRI's. I think TM brought IR himself to US to solicit donations for the project, getting help from a few good-hearted persons like TISK...
Once donated, the donors can definitely question how it is used. In this case, I think it was to produce a classic album, which was the original purpose and got satisfied with the release of the album. If there were more purposes specified during the soliciting, then the donors can definitely question as to why the proceeds are not utilized for that etc. However, to whom can they direct their question? Is it to IR only? It's got to be jointly to IR & TM together...
2. I'm sorry to say this, but while it was definitly a laudable effort, it was also kind-of-over-enthu on TIS-USA's part to organize a big "loan". Now, when the term 'loan' comes into picture, it should have been through proper paperwork as to how it will be repaid etc.
Since these are very simple, honest gentlemen (who are themselves trustworthy and trust that everyone else is like them), they probably looked at the objective rather than the path...which has led them to some financial difficulty.
However, I'm sure this is temporary and they'll get this past, as they have good hearts and are innocent. Don't worry guys, as generous as you are, you'll also be shown the same....though not quickly, but in the long run.
ching chuck ching chuck!!!!! When cat closes its eyes it thinks that the whole world is blind.
This is really sad to hear. So many IR fans are disappointed and angry, including me. I thought 50% of the profit to IR, actually meant to the foundation which IR has created. I am sure it is not fair this foundation to accept the proceeds of this album, when TIS-USA and Tamil Mayyam are in doubt.
Is there a way we can write to IR about this ? It is definitely going to affect his image and consequently the sales of his album. I hope IR realizes that he is not dealing with a few individuals (like in a film production situation) but a whole fan base. IR absolutely needs to come out with a statement on this soon.
Kiru,
I sincerely wish that should happen. But IR wont come out As he thinks he is right always. And now the responsibility lies in the hands of TISK/TM to expose IR if he had been wrong.
I asked TISK the accounts already and he has not provided them yet?
In an earlier post I asked him some questions. may be he had not noticed them
I am posing it again
On what basis did TISK give money for this venture.
1.Was it as a donation towards TM? Then it goes in drain you cannot claim it.
2.Was it as a Pre-Publication order? Then you have got your CD's YOu cannot claim anymore money.
3.Was it a Loan towards TM? then TM is responsible for giving it back to you.
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Patience is the key.
YIA!
conversations happened here in the last 2 days is not at all healty. Few ppl (kuttramulla nenju kukurukkum) in the name of attempting to give you some warm words are bashing IR,as if nothing else to do.
Unless someone gives a concrete word against IR, there is no point about "guessing" what might have happened. So lets stop here. If at all we can do something, lets help TIS-USA to sell more CDs.
As I already pointed out, if TIS copyright was given to other parties, then
1. They can not do any sale. so they are fooled.
2. They can not sue TIS=USA or TIS-India. US copyright act doesnt prevent parallel imports legally. So no issue there as well.
3. They are not fool enough to accept to get a "second hand" offer.
Today I talk to few ppl who are related to TIS and from what I heard the story is different. There is no point in posting them here, since it will only raise more question than answer. Like TISK mentioned "Patience is the key"
njv,
This is the first time I have posted on this subject. But so many things written here and elsewhere have been bothering me. I have talked to Father Jegath once in 2003. He seemed like a very nice person..similarly Dr Shankar sounds altruistic as well. Both these people are very representative of a good number of fans of IR who wanted this album to see the light of the day. I would be really really saddened to see these people in trouble. I collect IR's music zealously, write passionately about it in my own small way and convey this pleasure to others whenever I can. It would be very difficult for me to enjoy this music, when author of this music's integrity is in question. I am still not jumping to conclusions. I am of the opinion IR always does things to his conscience. I just want to be affirmed about this. That is all.
Please rajasaranam is a much more ardent fan of IR, than even me. If he is upset, then you know how others will feel. TIS-USA, in my opinion deserves the US copyright (I assumed so actually) if they want to pursue legal action in this regard, I am sending $100 or $200 right away !!!!!! (just to make clear how important a ardent IR fan feels about this) .
I have also posted in IR Yahoo Group as well. A statement from IR is desperately needed.
Kiru, Everything will be OK!! Shri.Ilayaraaja will clear the issues, Dr.shankar and Tamil maiyam will recover the money they invested.
Please friends, don't get upset or lose faith.
Do you know what we need now, Raaja pattu, now i am listening to this song, What an enchanting, breezy, romantic song!! ONLY our Raaja, namba IR can compose!!
http://www.dhool.com/sotd2/613.html
Come on, enjoy!! In few days things will develop positively!! love, vinatha.(yaarum yenmela irritate aagadheengappa!,enjoy the song!)
For me, its always Ilayaraaja!!