Nadigar Thilagam Sivaji Ganesan

Murali Srinivas, thanks for the info on Ele. I googled up for Dharan Mandrayar and even managed to see the trailer of Ele.

I was in Vellore for the last couple of days and the local cable TV channel played "Thiruvilayadal","Navarathiri",Gouravam","Paar MagaLE Paar" in the last 48 hours (not to mention Paasamalar on RajTV). Didn't have the time to catch any of them fully. Caught parts of each. (So I didn't catch the parts you are quoting Murali Srinivas, but they are noted for future reference !)

I did manage to catch my favourite part in Navarthiri: the Satyavan-Savitri Therukkoothu. Two of the best talents dishing it out. Sivaji playing the typical actor delivering the awful lines/songs with the involvement becoming of the character, while Savitri playing out the lines and dance with the studied gracelessness of a novice. The misplaced pauses, the tunes that don't match up to the epic scenario and amateurish excalmations are priceless. Together they take the sequence to be among the funniest ten minutes of all time.

My favourite is Savitri describing about how Satyavan slew the lion:
"Avar Ninru...adhai Konru, pin Senru...............vittArE" :lol:

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Originally Posted by tacinema

Additionally, when you are growing in Madurai, you get to see most of NT old films, where they are always in demand and running in different movie halls.

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I'll exploit this opportunity to quote an example of a Kamal movie where this culture is registered.
Remember Gandhimathi telling Kamal and Abhirami in Virumaandi.
"Naan innikku rendaavathu aattam Vasantha Maaligai paaka pOren...neenga saaliya irunga" (in the background you see a Vasantha Maaligai poster with a line "Putham puthiya Copy".

yes both Shivaji and Savithiri and the singer counterparts tms & ps have done a awesome job

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I completely agree. I just visit this thread to read and read and have absolutely nothing to add to the discussion. And I'm sure I'm not alone. I belong to the generation that has heard a lot about Sivaji from parents and uncles and went about disciovering in reverse from Thevar Magan,Mudhal Mariyaadhai to Andha Naal. So to read this thread helps appreciate him much better.

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You are very right Prabhu Ram, you are not alone I too am from the same predicament....the first time i saw Shivaji's acting was in "Engal Thanga Raja" I must have watched that and "Ooti Varai Uravu" countless times...my mom would always be puzzled why if i was bored i'd pick only those two movies...it was only after getting access to the net that I realized what I was missing, even though all my relatives and parents were fans of him they never thought that I too would find interest in their old movies and old actors...now I am ever on the search for a good copy...only recently did i watch "Veerapandian Kattabomman" and the more endearing "Karnan".

Dear Murali,

My uncle family lives in Panthadi area; I hope you are familiar with this area, somewhere closer to Keezhavaasal.

Querida: Welcome to this great post. Try to get and see some of NT's b/w classics: uththama puthiran, baaga privinai, deiva magan, raman ethanai ramanadi, and so on. Great movies and you will have great time.

Somehow, I like NT's b/w movies over his color
movies.

G2g.. best regards

Like it or not, the b/w cinematography of that era is much more beautiful. NTs films do not need colour. You get all kinds of colours from performance alone. You don't need colour, elaborate set, distant location or even varieties of costume. I agree, I like B/W too. Even when colour was emerging, he did many B/W films, and the best of the later years B/W is certainly Theiva Magan. Beautiful cinematography.

Friends,
NT's statue work is almost completed ..kalainjar took spl attention on this .He has selected a very important place in Merina beach .

When sivaji family met kalainjar to thank him ....
'எங்கள் குடும்பத்தின் சார்பில் தனிப்பட்ட முறையில் நன்றி" என்று ராம்குமாரும் பிரபுவும் சொல்லும் போதே இடை மறித்த கலைஞர் " எனக்கு எதற்கு நன்றி ? நான் வாழும் காலத்தில் கணேசனுக்கு நான் சிலை வைக்காமல் வேறு யார் வைப்பது ? அவருடன் நான் கொண்டிருந்த நட்பு தான் உங்களுக்கு தெரியுமே.." என்று சொல்லி உடைந்து அழுதிருக்கிறார் .

பிரபு கூறுகையில் "இப்போது டி.வி யில் கணேசனைப் பார்க்கும் போது ,திரையிலேயே அவர் கன்னத்தை கிள்ளத்தோன்றுகின்றது" என்று கூறி கலைஞர் கண்ணீர் வடித்ததாக கூறினார்

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http://www.kumudam.com/magazine/Repo...-07-02/pg2.php

Dear tac,

I know Panthadi which has many streets starting from Panthadi Mudhal Theru to Panthadi 10 vathu Theru. In and around Alankar Theatre this area is a fort of NT. The area diagonally opposite Alankar theatre ( on your left when you go to Munichalai ) is called Gandhi Pottal and the Sivaji Mandram there is still alive, vibrant and aggressive. Even now if a NT movie (old) is released, you can see this people printing welcome posters that would be pasted around the theatre that runs the movie and for the Sunday evening show they would come in large numbers and it will be a festival inside the theatre. Why I asked you about Meenakshi Amman Kovil was there was a person known to me(my cousin's senior friend) who was heading the student wing of NT fans during 69-75 and he lived in Therku Chithirai Street.

Welcome Querida.

Dear Prabhu Ram,

It was good to read your way of expressing Navarathiri song sequence. I am sure more will come.

Regards

It is very diffcult to give top 10 of NT. I tried and my favorite top 15 of NT instead of 10 (may not be in that order)

1) Vitenam Veedu – It is always my 1st favorite. Since NT makeup and walking style resembles my father. After retirement, when NT came to his house and given splendid reaction, acting, both laughing and cyring and then cried in front of his mother’s photo – Amma, Un Kuzanthaikku 55 vayasu aayiduthu. Retire aayitan. He is counting his days to the grave endru soli azumbothu - kallum karaiyum.
2) Gowravam - I prepare to face anybody challenge.
3) Pattikada Pattanama – Excellent Songs, Acting, Dance-
NT : Panchayathualla Ennakku kidacha varaverppa paartha purichipooripay.
An old lady ( I don’t know her name) – Appadiya, Nan varama poyitene. Then immediately NT replied, (vigathiyoodu , emmarthoodu,) Nan vanthirukene Uyiroodu.

4) Savale Samali - Both these two films are more or less same story.
In SS – NT is very simple, less makeup, no dream songs, no duet, no constumes, only shirt and white dothi.. Remember it is his 150th movie
5) Deiva Magan – what to tell
6) Navarathiri – no comments
7) Thiruvilaiyadal – my son used to see this movie (CD)ONLY whenever he is free from studies.
8) Thillana Mohanambal – One my friend seen this movie more than 50 times. His mother tongue is Marathi
9) Padikatha Medai – No one discuss. An excellent movie, particularly one scene, where SVRR asked NT and NT replied / refused. A treat to watch.
I have seen this movie first time in B’lore only during 80’s with my friends
10) Paasa Malar – what to tell
11) Gallata Kalyanam – Whenever I feel boring /woories and not in mood , I watch this CD to forget all my worries.
12) Uyarntha Manithan – no comments
13) Pudiya Paravi – excellent acting, songs, music
14) Babu
15) Gnana Oli


Some other movies I consider best is :
1) Enga Oor Raja
2) Raja
3) Needhi
4) Engirutho Vandal
5) Paar Magale Paar
6) Bale Pandiya
7) Thanga Padakkam
8) Vasantha Maligai
9) Kulama Gunama
10) Karnan
11) Aalaya Mani
12) Uthama Puthiran
13) Thirmal Perumai
14) Pallum Pazamum
15) Rajapat Rangadurai



Following are my collection of NT movies cds:
1) Thirvilaiyadal
2) Gallata Kalyanam
3) Raja
4) Sumathi En sundai
5) Pudiya Paravi
6) Bale Pandiya
7) Rajapat Rangadoori
8) Thirumal Perumai
9) Gowravam
10) Sivantha Man

There is general opinion among us that NT has not given any hit during 1980s – 1990s. I am giving the list of hit from 1975 to 1986. ( not included Dhavani Kanavugal, Padikadavan, Viduthali, etc.) I consider NT as hero and not as 2nd hero and side role here.

1975 - Avanthan Manithan (175), Pattum Bharathamum
1976 - Uthaman
1977 - Avan Oru Charithiram, Deepam, Annan Oru Kovil
1978 - Andaman Kadali, Thiygam
1979 - Thirisoolam, Iamayam, Naan Vazavaippen
1980 - Rishimoolam
1981 - Satya Sundaram, Kal Thoon, Keezhvanam Sivakkum
1982 - Vaa Kanna Vaa, Sangili, Thunai
1983 - Neethipati, Sandippu, Sumangali, Mirudanga Chakarvarthi, Vellai Roja
1984 - Vazhkai
1985 - Bandham, Mudhal Mariyadai, Raja Rishi
1986 - Sadhanai, Marumagal, Lakshmi Vandachu

During 1987, out of 10 release including two Telugu, two with Sathyaraj (Jallikattu and Muthukal Moondru), others are average hit.

In 1988, Due to political crisis, he has given only two films, ie, En tamil En Makkal, Pudiya Vanam with satyaraj. After this he slowly stopped acting in films

From 1990 to 1999 till Padayappa he acted only 12 films. Rest is the history

During 1980s directors and producers were selected only light stories and screenplay, with some good music and dance and given least importance to Acting. Naturally film goers also slowly changed according to the circumstances. Thus, scope of NT acting during 1980s is very less. Though his films boomed at BO, his acting never fails.

abkhlabhi,

I must congratulate you for being brave enough to list the favourites. Still, you have to add another five and further lists. You are really brave.

As for me...no way. I cannot. I will be editing the list every day. But let me tell you that whatever I had thought of putting is there in your list. I see that you do favour the late sixties/early seventies films. This is a terribly daunting task. I have no guts to do it. I am scared.

But I am very sure of my numer one: Gauvaram. Best of NTs and the best of any Tamil films. Karnan will be my number one in the historical/costume/mythology list.


And thanks for the list on his later hit films. Again, we are enlightened.