thiruvasakam in symphony

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Originally Posted by kiru

njv,
This is the first time I have posted on this subject.

Please rajasaranam is a much more ardent fan of IR, than even me.

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Kiru and Rajasaranam,

My prev post has nothing to do with you guys. In this topic, even I post something which doesnt make sense. I am taking about guys who take this "opportunity" to say something against.

Yes, TISK is a very nice person. I dont know much abt Father, but the mere fact that he put to gether this mega project on his personal debt itself shows that he must be another great person. No question abt that. All I am trying to say is that lets not "rush" into conclusions.

I doubt if someone will bring this to IR/Fr attention so that all can be clarified, but I just hope that more than resolving this issue, if Fr clear his debts, I am more than happy.

TISK

I will try my level best to take as much as I can from you.

Thanks
NJV

Thank you baroque for a good digression about this ongoing discussion.

I do not understand the situation very much clear. But its really disturbing me for about a day. They showed the much awaited Ilayaraja's concert on Jaya TV, I couldn't enjoy it fully, because I was judging Raaja rather than the music that flowed. [esp, SPB's prelude to "Mandram Vandha Thendralukku" which would mesmorise me all the time!]

Please don't go ahead with this discussion without some concrete details on hand to present. It's very speculative, and its not right to blame it one somebody, least Raaja, for everything.

Thanks again Baroque.

Anbudan,
Ragu

Dear all,
Sanjivi correcta sonnar.IR kaga sollavillai.Endha vishyathiayum theirnjdhu kondu, nam opinion solvadhu enbadhu oru nalla gunam i feel.Nam dhan padithu irukirom.

1.Kannal kanbadhum poi!!!!!
2.Kadhal ketpadhum poi!!!!
3.Theera visaripadhae mei!!!

Nam ethanaiyo peruku roll modelaga irukirom.Adhanal oru vishayam patri opinion sollum podhu konjam wait panni therindhu kondu sollalam.

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

You guys really believe what tamilcinema.com say????

The same site mentioned some time back that actress sneha was forced to sleep with the saravana stores owner son since she acted in their commercial..how is that possible?..

tamilcinema.com is full of shit nothing else........

Ragu, thanks! Well we all love Shri.ilayaraaja, We don't want his name tarnished due to this news. Same time when the news came out unfortunately our Dr.shankar's reply(he had no choice but to reply!), followed by aonother post is bothering us, the Raaja fans who takes pride in TIS project rt from the start, are thanksful to Dr.shankar and Tamil maiyam for their efforts, want to see them get back the money they invested. that's why in the yahoo group as well as here i am urging Shri.Ilayaraaja to clear this issue quickly, we need to hear from HIM. It is important.
Please start reading from this post,
http://tfmpage.mayyam.com/hub/viewto...asc&start=1185
Dr.shankar's statement,He did more than this!
That's why this constant appeal and requests to buy this CD from www.tis-usa.com to cover the committments to US loan obligations. Still, people are cursing us for our plea for help! ' is bothering us.
followed by Raqjasaranam's post onPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:09 pm 'Fr.Jegath seemed very much pained about the happenings when i saw him at the last IR Yahoo Group meeting held at chennai.' is painful for us.

Everything will end well! Good Day! Shri.Ilayaraaja will clear this issue soon. I am positive. love, vinu.

app_engine, very balanced mature post. People, IR may or may not have been in the wrong. At the moment, we are in speculation realm. I think it is better to wait until the truth emerges to start throwing dung. I suppose RS, vijayr et al have closer personal contacts with TISK so they may know more than what we general public here in this forum know - hence their open disowning of IR.(this is a guess) but until they post it here publicly in this forum or until it is proved that IR was in the wrong, I am not going to bash IR. Ofcourse, silence speaks a lot and TISK's refusal to exonerate IR gives a lot of hints(and much as I wish otherwise, it does look like IR could have been ethically, if not legally, wrong) but until he speaks out I am not going to throw muck.

Having said that, I look at it like this:
1. Thiruvasagam, presumably, was IR's dream of composing a WC score that would last for centuries.
2. Tamil Maiyyam was a tool to achieving this dream.
3. ..and they worked their a** off to making this dream come true. Not to mention TISK and his associates, who bore taunts, barbs and stones in bringing this project to light.
4. Having achieved his dream, all indications are that IR didnt suffer financially because of this project(unlike Symphony #1 where indications are that he sufferred financially).
5. The Vel, kreedam etc are matters which I would not comment on - for all one knows, it might have been bought from YSR's sambadhyam.
6. Considering 4, I think , if he could afford it, he can make an attempt to alleviate the pains of people like TISK.This may not happen if YSR is the chief bread-winner of the family - including for KR.
7. My last take on this is that IR might not consciously believe that he is in the wrong. The man clearly has stood by his principles always - and if he is in the wrong (legally or ethically from our point of view), I am afraid it might be because he doesnt see it the way we do and I think he might be convinced that he is right. Which is more the pity.

IR, we all know, is a flawed genius. Well, composers like Mozart died in penury - that being the compensation they paid for their extra-ordinary talent. Maybe, moral penury is IR's curse to compensate for his genius.(all this if the accusations are true - if not, I will be ashamed that I could even harbour such thoughts)

Although being on the same 'wait-and-watch' mode as some here, I just cant help reflecting why working with the Maestro is always akin to sitting on a powder keg. To hazard a guess, the speculations will be rife and it is unlikely they will ever be resolved, what with IR being IR, he is sure to let sleeping(and barking) dogs lie.

A more tumultous Diwali there never has been.

Dear TISK, our best wishes are with you.

Watever it is, a fan should not suffer bcos of a artiste's interests, be it Ilayaraja or Rahman......If ppl. have invested their money for their idols then they shuld get it back and artistes shuld ensure that.....if they are not caring abt their fans then they deserve to be exposed and bashed in the public.......

i sincerely hope TISK gets all his money back, as i have felt his pain thru this forum......TISK, god will show u a good way..... :D

maddy, we havent heard the other side of the story yet. Heck, we havent even heard this side of the story yet - only hints - and that doth not a fact make. The bottomline is except wishing TISK that he comes out of trouble, there is no definite reasonable fair statement that we can make yet.

In yesterdays TV program(telecast of his October live programme) IR said "he is touched by the fact that there are thousands out there who are willing to give anything for him". It seemed genuine - either that he is a bloody good actor. Which doesnt make sense to me - if he was that good at hiding his real feelings, he wouldn't have had so many "diplomatic" problems in his life.

Again, very early in this effort, I believe there were so-called mischief-makers who did raise this very point - TISK, do you remember people asking you "what if IR himself walks away leaving you people in the lurch after releasing the album?what if IR is not worried about your loans and doesnt care for helping you repay your loans?".
Well, there, I am not happy that it came down to this - but I guess there is a lesson for me and anyone - listen to everyone and pay heed to everyone and try to CYA! And I dont mean this in a derogatory sense - I really feel for you
Oh!Shucks! It seems like this accusation has kind of troubled me a lot that I am just speculating, speculating and speculating - so much for preaching and professing objectivity :-)