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Ananth,
Thanks for pointing out the 7 beat in 'Chinna Kanna'. Mishra gati in Adi talam structure, if I can call it so.
Can you check also check out 'Chinna Poongodi' which Usha has posted? It has an Adi talam structure but the ending is always two beats more than Adi talam. So how do you explain the beat of this song?
Usha: Ragam of 'Chinna Poonkodi'? Looks more scale based than raga based. I could hear traces of Keeravani but I am not sure. Can be some other scale like Gowri Manohari as well.
It looks like regular aadi taalam. note that "chinna" comes before the first beat, so you must start counting from "poongodi".Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
Ananth,
I tried analyzing the song. If I go with Adi Talam of 8 beats and start one beat earlier, still I don't get the ending of the pallavi correctly. i.e., I don't land one beat before the samam. The first two lines start before the beat and the next two lines on the beat. Instead if you consider this as a simple Eka Talam (4 beats), then starting one beat earlier, get you to the right place when the pallavi ends and restarts.
As with many Raja songs, here too there are different starting points within the song. While the Pallavi starts one beat before samam, the charam actually starts one beat after the samam. After both the singers have sung two lines each, it lands on the samam and continues like that for the next 3 lines, before the final line ends up bringing it one beat before the samam for the start of pallavi again. So much asymmetry in the song but Raja hides all this behind the steady beat of the tabla.
I always wonder why Raja's songs are so catchy even though the background rhythm sometimes goes very steady. I guess it is because of these variations in take off points and the asymmetry generated due to this which keeps the interest alive.
Dear Suresh and ananth,
Thanks for the responses.
Enaku adi thalam matum theiryum.(Paiyan tabla konja naal kathundan. Adhanala)
indha 2 paatum - adi thalam madhiri iruku - ana illa nu thonithu.
ananth,
You very well explained the Starting and ending of HIS songs..
one old memory - kanden engum poo magal natiyam
indha paatai ketadhum - veetil
irundha periyavargal sonnadhu - Thalathai
thappa mudichu irukan un Ilaiya raja....
Ovovoru time indha paatai ketadhum appadi than thoniyadhu....
Pin Natkalil dhan Avaroda Greatness purinjahdu.
He showed HIs knowledge nu......
hahahhahaha....
usha,Quote:
Originally Posted by tvsankar
:ty: evlo sonaalum pothathu. Its one of my fav song.
I simply melt along with the song. :ty:
ofcourse when its KJY, what else can we expect :musicsmile:
Today song - Nenachen Nenachaen
Singer - VJ
Film - Kuvaa Kuvaa vathukal
Idhu dhan first time.. Indha paatai ketkiren.
Really nice to hear.Becoz of Guitar.
Mohana ragama??
Thanks to Thiraipadal.com team........
Thanks solla indha jenmam podhadhu...
Soft Beat.. But Smart.
Nenachen Nenachen
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Heard "paavaiyargaL maan pole" here decades after ceylon "vaanoli" . "Raja ponnu" was quite popular then. It starts with qawali genre and soon moves to pop before SJ begins with "nalladhor peNmaNi" Interesting song
Welcome thumburu,
Paavaiyargal man polae - Rare Gem listned in
radio cylone.
today Song - Ey maama kobama
Film - Azhagiya kannae
Singer - Yar padinadhu? therinja kurala iruku.
Ana yar nu theriyalai..
Uma RAmanan?? S.P.Shilaja???
Starting with Beautiful Ludes..
Enna oru Guitar work.... Amazing.....
Singer kudavae - voda phone mahdiri
friendly aga varum Guitar....
Great Great.. Neenda varudanalaga thedi kodnu irundha
paatu idhu.'Thats all.....
Enjoy This IR..........
Ey maama
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Usha, "azhagiya kaNNE", , an onscure movie by Mahendran has few amazing numbers like "chinna chinna kaNgaL endu" , an intriguing solo by KJY , "naan irukkum indha naaL varaikkum", an endearing solo by SJ and a nice bhakthi song "pala janma janmaandhara bandhangal" by SPS and your SOTD. I infact rated your pick as just another average song for IR's standards of 80's. Now, it sounds good enough , only BSS is trying too hard to sound coy :)