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Those who don't bother of religion can atleast get rid of this major problem.
salute u buddy!! 8-) thats very true!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by viggop
would like to know...is there any script in hinduism mentioning about other religions??
Then those who bother of religion will be after their neck! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Bebeto
Many, some about religious conficts too....Quote:
Originally Posted by dinesh2002
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---- Thiruvasagam - pORRi thiru agaval 4.42-61
Translation by G U Pope:
Then wondrous thought of the Divine, so-called, arose.
Soon as I knew that BEING, free from hate, unique,
Delusive powers in ever-changing millions
Began beguiling varied play. (45)
Relations, neighbours, came around,
With fluent tongue they urged their 'atheism'
Friends around (such herds of cattle old !)-
Seiz'd me, call'd, hurried to and fro;
The BrAhman said 'the way of penance is supreme'; (50)
And others showed the law of trusting love !
Sectarian disputants complacently
Discordant tenets shouted loud and fought.
Then haughty VedAnt creed unreal came,
Whirled, dashed, and roared like furious hurricane. (55)
LOkAyathan a glistening mighty snake
Brought cruel poisoned heresies.
Whilst these delusions, endless, girt me round,
Lest I should go astray, He laid His hand on me !
As wax before the unwearied fire (60)
With melting soul I worshipt, wept, and bent myself,
Idiappam Sir
Many of verses of gnanasampandhar,appar,manickavasagar with relation to other religions like Jainism and Buddhism ,other school of thoughts, do not necessary follow the secular tenets of modern times.Secularism as a concept became strong only with democracy.Monarchy , as a system of governance, did not follow concept like secularism.This was true not only in India but also in other countries.
SO, we should not blame these olden day saints that they used harsh words against other schools of thought.If anyone talks like this in modern days,abuses other religions, then he can be arrested for spreading communal violence.
Anyway, let us continue Srimad Bhagwatham in this thread. :-)
mathRu vaatsalyam tied HIM up and pitRu vaatsalyam released HIM!
Hearing the crash the villagers led by Nanda Gopa came looking for the source of the sound. However they found two huge arjuna trees fallen on the sides of baby Krishna.
ulUkhalam vikarShantam dAmnA baddham ca bAlakam
kasya idam kuta AScaryam utpAta iti kAtarA: 10.11.3
(They found Krishna who was bound by the rope to the ulukhala, the mortar, which He was dragging. But they wondered how he could have pulled down the trees! Who had actually done it? Where was the source for this incident? They were alarmed to think that this was caused by some evil force and were very worried. (Such are the wonderful leela’s of Krishna. The Gopa’s could not see the reality)
na te tad uktam jagRuhu: na ghaTeta iti tasya tat
bAlasya utpAthanam tarvo: kecit sandigdha cetasa: 10.11.5
(Some of the other boys who watched the incident said that it was kirishna who broke the two arjuna trees. However most of the Gopa’s could not believe that such a tiny and sweet little baby could destroy not one but two huge arjuna trees!! So they did not lend much credence to what other boys had to say. However there were a few who remembered how Krishna had killed Putana, and how Garga muni had compared Krishna with Lord Narayana and they started wondering about the true identity of Krishna.)
ulUkhalam vikarshantam dAmnA baddham svam Atmajam
vilokya nanda: prahasad vadano vimumoca ha 10.11.6
(When Nanda Gopa saw his own son bound with ropes to the wooden mortar and dragging it, he smiled and released Krishna from His bonds. (What a wonderful sight this must have been! He who releases us from the bonds of this life-death cycle was now being freed! KRishNa would have given His appa a big hug and a kiss.))
darSayan tad vidAm loka Atmano bhRutya vaSyatAm
vrajasya uvAha vai harsham bhagavAn bAla ceShTitaih 10.11.9
(To His pure devotees throughout the world who could understand His activities, Krishna exhibited how much He cares for his devotees. For the sake of His devotees He becomes their servant. With his childhood pranks he added more pleasure to the people pf Vraj everyday.)
krINIhi bho: phalAnIti SrutvA satvaram acyuta:
phalArthI dhAnyam AdAya yayau sarva phala prada: 10.11.10
(Once a woman was selling fruit was calling, "O inhabitants of Vraja, if you want to purchase some fruits, come here!" Upon hearing this, Krishna immediately took some grains and went to barter as if He needed some fruits. The same Krishna who is responsible for giving us the fruits now pretended as if he was desirous of the fruits! One cannot help singing the glories of this wonderful child Krishna.)
Phala vikrayiNI tasya cyuta dhAnyam kara dvayam
phalair apUrayad ratnai: phala bhAndam apUri ca 10.11.11
(While Krishna was going in a hurry to the fruit vendor (an old lady), most of the grains He was holding in his little palm fell. Nonetheless, the fruit vendor filled Krishna's hands with fruits. Her fruit basket was immediately filled with jewels and gold. (Such is the greatness of Lord Krishna. He blesses even those who enjoy him without realsiing the divinity. Imagine the bliss of one who sees the divinity everywhere! If we take one step towards Him and he will take countless steps towards us. Oh! No, No! All we need is the desire to take one step!))
kRushNa, we don’t even no how to achieve THAT desire. Break this inertia and teach us how to make THAT desire for the first step so that YOU WILL DO THE REST.
Let us enjoy the love filled calling of rohiNi devi and yaSOdamma. Get ready as we ready to leave for bRunDaavan! The word itself is so sweet. this is where bhakti got revived.
Na upeyAtAm yadA AhUtau krIdA sangena putrakau
yaSodAm preShayAmAsa rohiNI putra vatsalAm 10.11.13
(One day when Rohini called the two boys (Krishna and Balarama) to return home back. But they did not even hear as they were having too much fun playing. Therefore Rohini sent mother Yashoda to fetch them. RohiNi devi knew the putra vaatsalyam (affection to a child) that mother Yashoda pours on Krishna and Balarama.)
he rAma Agaccha tAta ASu sAnuja: kula nandana
prAtar eva kRutAhAra: tad bhavAn bhoktum arhati 10.11.16
(YaSoda’s affection was overflowing as milk. She called for them many times. Oh! kRushNa, darling, come and drink milk or you will wither because of hunger and thirst. Naturally mothers are worried about only that! How do they know that kids are hungry to play as well? Yashoda then said “My dear Baladeva, please come immediately with Your younger brother, Krishna; the most dear one in the family! You both ate in the morning, and now You ought to eat something more.” The more the mom scream, the more they play! Otherwise how ill know the real strength of affection. Well, Krishna always has the habit making people cry before he comes!)
dhUli dhUsarita anga: tvam putra majjanam Avaha
janmarksham adya bhavato viprebhyo dehi gA: Suci: 10.11.18
(Mother Yashoda further told Krishna: “My dear son, because of playing all day, Your body has become covered with dust and sand. Therefore, come back, take Your bath and cleanse Yourself.
paSya paSya vayasyAn te mAtRu mRuShTAn svalankRutAn
tvam ca snAta: kRutAhAro viharasva svalankRuta: 10.11.19
(Just see how all Your playmates of Your own age have been cleansed and decorated with beautiful ornaments by their mothers. You should come here, and after You have taken Your bath, eaten Your lunch and been decorated with ornaments, You may play with Your friends again. Please kRUshNa, what is this? Won’t you listen to me kaNNa?)
One day cowherd men led by Nanda Gopa met to discuss the various attacks made on Krishna’s life. Upananda a senior gopa reminded everyone about the incidents of Pootana, Tranavarta as well as the two arjuna trees. (The reason the two were born was to protect Gokul, and of course needed no protection from the Gopa’s. But this is just another illustration of the pure love exhibited by the Gopa’s. )
yAvad autpAtiko arishTo vrajam na abhibhaved ita:
tAvad bAlAn upAdAya yAsyAmo anyatra sAnugA: 10.11.27
(He continued: “All these incidents are being caused by some unknown evil demon. Before he comes here to create another disturbance, it is our duty to go somewhere else with the boys until there are no more disturbances.”)
vanam vRundAvanam nAma paSavyam nava kAnanam
gopa gopI gavAm sevyam puNyAdri tRuna vIrudham 10.11.28
(There is a place named Vrindavana. This place is very suitable because it is lush with grass, plants and creepers for the cows and other animals. It has nice forests and sacred mountais and is the perfect place for all the gopas and gopis as well as our animals. ARE WE NOT EXCITED THAT KRISHNA IS ENTERIGN BRINDAAVAN?)
yamunaa tIra vihArI bRundAvana sancAri
govarddhanoddhAri gopAla kRushNa murAri
“Move to another place devils won’t come.” We all know that this is true even today, not only during kRushNa's days!. Devils will follow until they become extinct!
godhanaani puruskRutya SrungaaNi aapoorya sarvata:
tooryaghosheNa mahataa yayu: saha purohitaa: 10.11.32
(Cows are their wealth. They collected all those and played musical instruments. The purohitaas chanted Veda to make the trip auspicious. They started tehir trip. Ladies dressed up nicely got a into one cart to enjoy kRushNa's pranks. yaSOda, rohIni along with kRUshNa and Balarama aslo enoyed the ride with them.)
Let us be with them and we will settle down in Brundavanam in the evening.
Upananda’s words struck cord with everyone and it was decided to relocate to Vridavan. Of course we all now know that it was just another part of Krishna’s grand plan!
vRuddhAn bAlAn striyo rAjan sarva upakaraNAni ca
anassu Aropya gopAlA yattA Atta SarAsanA: 10.11.31
(Keeping all the old men, women, children and household paraphernalia on the bullock carts and keeping all the cows in front, the cowherd men picked up their bows and arrows with great care and began their journey. (What devotion!, for the sake of Krishna the entire villagers in one voice without a moments hesitation left their safe secure homes to the forest Vridavan to start a new life. Krishna, please grant us a tiny fraction of such Bhakti.)
As they were moving; the Gopis who were very beautifully dressed and very happy started to sing about the various activities of Krishna.
tathA yaSodA rohinyav ekam SakaTam Asthite
rejatu: kRushNa rAmAbhyAm tat kathA Sravanotsuke 10.11.34
(Mother Yashoda and Rohini who did not want to be separated from Krishna and Balarâma for even a moment, got up with Them on one bullock cart. They listened to the various past times of the two divine boys with great pleasure. This made the trip even more divine and enjoyable!
vRundAvanam govardhanam yamunA pulinAni ca
vIkshya AsId uttamA prItI rAma mAdhavayor nRupa 10.11.36
(Sri Sukar noticed the excitement in Balarama and kRushNa and addresses parIkshit, ‘Oh! King, At the sight of Vridavan, Govardhan mountain and the beautiful sandy banks of Yumana, the hearts of Krishna and Balarama was filled with intense happiness’)
evam vrajaukasAm prItim yacchantau bAla ceShTitai:
kala vAkyai: sva kAlena vatsa pAlau babhUvatu: 10.11.37
(In this way, Krishna and Balarama, with their infantile gestures and sweet expressions and talking in half broken language, gave immense pleasure to all the inhabitants of Vraja. In due course of time, They became old enough to take care of the calves. (Krishna was now in full flow, besides take care of evil forces; his main reason for even appearing on earth was to please his devotees so that they could enjoy him. Thus kRushNa became ‘GOPAALA’.)
kvacid vAdayato veNum kshepaNai: kshipata: kvacit
kvacit pAdai: kinkinIbhi: kvacit kRutrima go vRushai: 10.11.39
(Sometimes Krishna and Balarama would play on Their flutes. Sometimes They would throw stones using slings for getting fruits from the trees Yet other times They would throw only stones. With their legs they made the melodious sounds with Their tinkling ankle bells. Sometimes They would dress up and imitate cows & bulls. Just a naughty boy to capture others!)
vRuShAyamAnau nardantau yuyudhAte parasparam
anukRutya rutair jantUn ceratu: prAkRutau yathA 10.11.40
(Krishna and Balarama would join other cowherd boys in playing by making sounds like the animals, sometimes playfully fighting and loudly roaring. In this way they played just as any normal human children. What a lucky birth! As Gopa baalaas in bRundaavan.)
Devi's words to Daksha who hrut Lord Siva.
na AScaryam etat Asatsu sarvadaa mahat vinindaa kuNapa aatmavaadishu
sershyam mahaapurusha paada paamsubhi: nirasta tejassu tadeva Sobhanam 4.4.13
(Oh! A perosn like you, think that this material, perishable body is the real aatma. So, it is not surprising that you have this hatred for mahaans. You insulting them does not surprise me! But, the mahaan is never going to curse people like you. The power of the dust from their feet will reduce your power and glory to mere dirt.)
yadyaksharam naama giraa Iritam nRuNaam sakRUt prasangAt agham aaSu hanti tat
pavitra kIrttim tam alanghya Saasanam bhavaan aho dweshTi Sivam Sivetara: 4.4.14
(Just by chance if one says the two syllabled 'siva' it removes all the sin from a person. What a shame that you hate that kind of Siva who has nothing but pure fame and whom no one dares to question?)
yat paada padma mahataam mano alibhi: nishevitam brahma rasaasava aarthibhi:
lokasya yat varshati ca aaSisha: arthina: tasmai bhavaan dRuhyati viswa bhandhave 4.4.15
(The hearts of great souls are like bees that crave for the nectar flowing from the lotus feet of the LORD. That lotus feet pours it compassion and grants all the wishes. You hurt that LORD who is the wellwisher of the wholeuniverse!!)
Let us all merge with DEVI and join her prayer now.