Global recognition for IR's music.......

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Originally Posted by Plum

please delete your post.You don't have to ofcourse but I would appreciate if you did

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plum, sorry, but when i asked the same thing to IR fans to stop rubbishing abt ARR , u said i'm trying to control the hub......

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Originally Posted by Plum

Thamizhvaanan, I am deeply disappointed by your post. This wasn't what I posted that link here for. If you re-read your post, you are basically venting against IR and taking cheap potshots at him. I dpnt know about your experience with rabid IR fans but the last few pages in this thread which I have seen have been free of malice and rancour. Please do not bring your politics here.

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Honestlty I am shocked to know that my post can be interpreted as such. Well, if you think that the last few pages are free of malice and rancour, its upto you. But if you really read through the subtext of some of those posts, you can see an intentional dig at ARR, be it saying that awards are meaningless or be it downgrading the brilliance shown in other aspects of music making where ARR shines now. I can appreciate it if these points come purely to w.r.to evaluvation of IR's music but here the intention is deeper than that. Gone are the days of direct confrontation between IR & ARR fans, these days its more like a cold war. Thanks to the volume of his acheivement they dont have the guts to challenge his genius directly. But these fans do take a dig at him indirectly often referring to him as "other MD's", "modern MD's", "pop MD's" and when confronted directly they come up with a cliched superficial reply "ofcourse I appreciate ARR for whatever he acheived". Just check ARR forums for comparison, you will seldom hear anyone lowballing IR, whereas here talks about "other MD's" is very high in proportion. It is done as if telling themselves, to confirm one's own faith that they still prefer IR over others. Such cheap potshots are so common in this forum that I decided not to post here any longer. But I couldn't restrain myself from highlighting that hypocrisy of particular IR fans seeing your valid post.

Sorry that I made it sound like that. I respect the opinions of some of the hubbers like yourself, app_engine etc., . But I really regret that value of my post had to suffer a dip under your perspective, could have been avoided and will be avoided in future :)

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Originally Posted by thamizhvaanan

But I really regret that value of my post had to suffer a dip under your perspective, could have been avoided and will be avoided in future

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:shock: but why?? do ARR bashers here stop after posting crap on ARR?? u have made a decent post after all :huh: why feeling bad :D .........i just love IR and his music - but lets not shy away from "questioning" ARR bashing :)

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Originally Posted by MADDY

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Originally Posted by irir123

we are not concerned about whats happening to other MDs

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:rotfl: if that was really the case, then TV would have never come here.....just look at threads in this section and this thread too, where ARR was discussed a lot, much to our discomfort.......

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Maddy - porutthaar bhoomi aalvaar! therefore am patiently explaining things and putting things in perspective to you - as far as this thread is concerned, we are not interested in bringing other MDs and create unwanted controversies and dilute the focus of the thread!

pls read what you have written and see if it makes any sense or connection to the intentions behind my request!

I will not stoop down to the level of condescending remarks abt you for misunderstanding me - coz, its my sincere understanding that you have misunderstood my statement - i hope this will make you understand

I guess we can have a separate thread for that too "ARR bashing". because in every thread, some topic will ultimately lead to discussion on ARR either directly, or with different names like Thamizhvaanan mentioned.

when will people accept that IR and ARR are different people, from different backgrounds and different approaches, schools of thought and outlook. when will people stop comparing and accept both as standalone good composers in their own way and dimensions, with no comparisons.

I also dont understand why do most IR fans pick only ARR? How come that segment of IR fans never pick on other composers, including IR's sons? or Other composers in Tamil, Telugu, Malayalam or Hindi? I think people really need to think about this question.

Still if people want to do that, better open a new thread. that ways, some hubbers like me will atleast know which threads to avoid. and that ways, other threads can become IR centric, instead of always ending up in controversial discussions to prove upmanship.

I can understand why Thamizhvanan posted that. Plum, TV was basically trying to question the assumption of sound-quality dichotomy here in these threads. And TV post-ku objection therivikkaravanga modhal-la namma IR fans posts ku yen edhuvume sollala? I mean some of the sound/recording arguments made by IR fans here actually work against them.. idhu theriyama...!
Shows these so-called fans' tolerance to music, and understanding (or the lack of it) of IR's music, let alone ARR's

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Originally Posted by thamizhvaanan

Just check ARR forums for comparison, you will seldom hear anyone lowballing IR, whereas here talks about "other MD's" is very high in proportion. It is done as if telling themselves, to confirm one's own faith that they still prefer IR over others. Such cheap potshots are so common in this forum that I decided not to post here any longer. But I couldn't restrain myself from highlighting that hypocrisy of particular IR fans seeing your valid post.

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Just a minor nitpick.
Yes, maybe the proportion may be more here but this reaffirmation happens even in ARR and other threads where its irrelevant

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