:lol: :thumbsup: 7-0 hey even roger didnt lose that bad in a single year if you count Feb11- feb 12.
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ATP.Cincinnati.2012.Final.Federer.Vs.Djokovic.High lights.[HD]
Djokovic who was the eventual winner of that 2008 event commented such before the tournament started. Even Federer said the same. And people who have been watching GS events year after year could easily tell the difference.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Au...Surface_change
The point at 04:04. Roger's return :shock:. Commie yells at the End of point that is circa 1985 at its very best
@ 07: 35 Novak's yell when he hits an UE :lol:
The pace of the rallies/shots is amazing, like the entire video is fast fwd-ed. Kudos to both the players for not having an slugfest :clap:.
So Novak's pinnacle season. he not only beat Nadar, he beat Federer to get to Nadar.
Nadar when dominating beat Djoker AND Federer.
Federer beats Djoker, but never faces Nadar.
Omeha,
The strategy is that Nadar planning to win one WTF in closed-roof in-door chOppu. :poke:
I am putting a word out if Roger doesn't win anymore slams from now on, Nole's gonna surpass Rafa (GS Count)in the next 2-3 years, IMHO.
Oh no way. Murray will play his part. Tsonga will play his part. Even Del P is no push-over. Djoker no longer invincible.
I don't deny your point kid. Let's see. Even in the next slam the highest chance is for Nole then to Fed/Murray and others given that there is no Rafa there.
Idha thaan pala naala koovitrukken, padhil varla. Appo Fannie D V than greatest.
Thirumba thirumba Djoker defeated Roger in semis-ne sollitrukkaaru.
Oru 31 vayasu kezhavana veeztha kashtam, and veezhthittu GOAT glory hunting panna vendiyadhu. And look at how conveniently (without conscience) use the "close" loss argument. We should have at least 2-3 GS more now, if we go by "close" finishes.
Is it all because of Sampras? Avvalavu paasama?
From being comfortable ride for Djoker, it was already closing down to even matches, and Nadar is getting back to make Djoker his ditch.
Djoker is now losing badly to Del P, and nearly lost to Aandi petti in Ozzie as well.
So yes, reasonably conclusive enough to say Djoker on his way down here.
If Nadar comes back fit (which is his biggest problem), he'd be back to making Djoker his ditch full-time next season. The curve is down again.
Never been Sampras fan, Rafter on the other hand..
Couple of years back, Federer was still 31?
Personally, I think Federer's a natural athlete and could play till his 35's.
Still better how about having the entire ATP tour on clay (only RED though)?
Hoffa will disappear...
Length of season will not matter (can even be extended further)...
Heck with 2 year ranking, even ranking on weekly basis will do..
Sounds extremely good. Who knows may happen.
Oh and this,
Can you ask Hoffa to show up on the other side like Roger showed up every time on Hoffa's fav. surface...
A guy who has won GS as early as 19, who have beat No.1 on his least fav. surface (2004 Miami Masters) in their very first meeting,
can't get to USO finals till 2010.. He was still maturing ahh?? Doesn't it tell you something.. Yes he is only capable of beating Roger in any surface. Unfortunately he had to beat 6 other guys before meeting Roger. ATP should've given him 6 round byes to meet Roger directly in the Finals right. Given such, he would have been still able to do that (beat Roger). You would have gloated even more.
How all of sudden Olympic Gold Medal became that important (just because Roger didn't have it). Heck if Roger had got it, then irukkave irukku Davis Cup right?? From when did all these crap became so important. Shabba, muydiayla...
How do you expect to beat a chicken who doesnt show up?
To me H2H doesn't show the greatness of a player. On deep analysis only portrays his weakness/cleverness after realizing how skewed it is.
Very clever in deflating any future arguments by Fedtards (past his prime) after losing to Hoffa in future.
So till 35 Roger will be considered in prime & is expected to beat both Nole & Hoffa back in back in a GS event.
If one or the other doesn't show up then it doesn't count.
Wareh whah!!
Omegs, go easy he is just trollin (i think)
Kid, you are doing a bad job at strollin ;)
I thought people would be more grateful that they didn't see sight of the Majorcan Beast in Hard court much. Already remba kevala paduthittaan Sicken. 'tha enna kala saraiyam oothuraaro Uncle Toni, vakkali.
But for the self-amusement. :lol2:
In indoors, Federer skews the hard court H-2-H.
Also this Yank-propagated aversion towards clay(relegated to only 'lesser' players, despite the South Americans, Central/East Europeans having more skill and technique than pure power serving of the North American and Oceanic Men) has been restored back by Nadal and restores back the European culture/pride back. The capitalist propaganda with faster/hard surface and in general, the bloom of 90's US players would continue to affect people. To me, conventional surfaces will always be Clay and Grass. Red and Green. They added blue of hard court, a very artificial phenomenon, but gives the complete contours of color and flavours the Sport deserves, so fair enough. But fastness alone contributing to greatness of sport is a fraud. Since we're on point of having slower surfaces, why don't we extend it to change of wooden to racquet strings as well? That Borg still survived and came out on top against s & v (the most astonishing achievement in Men's Tennis) in Wooden racquet era is the kind of evolution I'd like to see of s & v. Borg didn't possess the attuned equipment that likes of Rafa use to the maximal effect from the baseline, he must have been some specimen. Similarly as much as I'd love to see s & v brought back for Yank appeasement, I'm optimistic enough that a highly sophisticated s & v will emerge. Maybe the key is to fine tune a balance, still as professional tennis player, you only play on what's set for you. And to think that Nadal wouldn't have modified his game accordingly is again a revisionist theory. In fact, didn't JMac (an advocate and symbol for hard/faster/volley) explore this potential of Rafa? That he actually has the vision and tactical acumen to come at the 'right time' (something that doesn't seem natural for Federer when he faces Nadal, but very much so for Tsonga, utter consistency in winning points from the net and has the best GS s & v pwnage over Rafa).
The tactical manoeuvring in tempo, positional play and transitivity phases of tennis with vaster sample space of rallies, is enough 'justice'.
For a individual sport, to look past head to head completely and only base it on GS count to estimate relative greatness isn't compelling either.
Why Olympics is considered a criteria now? Because top players now see it as a major, is why. And the fact it's for your country, it's supposed to be a great honor. That US guys inoculated a callousness in its treatment doesn't mean it's the same for Europeans. :lol2:
Why Davis Cup is considered? All top players now consider it highly and compete regularly (for the key 5-set showdown, Rafa/Djoker/Federer DO compete here with utmost sincerity and commitment, it's for your country).
Feddy,
It's to 'give trolling a bad name'. Get it right :lol2:
As for going easy, I like my stroll here. Yet to see a compelling argument. :(
Fast courts - Yank appeasement??. Seriously?. Those things have been there for years if i am not wrong.
Ok what's the theory for yet to win an ATP WTF/Tennis masters cup title?. Now that I've said it who knows he might win this year.
To Europeans & South Americans, it will always be Wimbledon and French.
Post-global TV coverage, Yanks always had inkling to support tournaments where Pistol Pete's going to bully his opponents.
Not a fan of Indoor TT tournaments. :( So can't give you an answer for WTF records and all sir.
How convenient :clap:
Tennis has not been in Olympics for like 64 years(1924-88) and once in 4 years it is a major eh??. If adding glory to your country is what it is over the years Roger has done more than Michael Phelps and Usain Bolt combined. Heck Spain didn't win Football gold this time adhaanala ?? :huh:
Davis Cup - People play that stuff for practice and whenever their schedule is free, afaik. Idhellam :fatigue:
Again, re-read.
Traditionally Yanks will have to rely on their serve heavily and need the court as fast as possible. Agassi's origin not to be forgotten here.
One could still serve heavily but possess the fine art of coming to the net with vision, like the Europeans, in particular Becker and Edberg.
Compared to the yanks, the Australians have far better aesthetic quality in the nets. Rod Laver, Rafter.
JMac is an exception, leftie s & v and a great competitor to rival Borg. Didn't have many with that charisma.
1. Football, under-23 restrictions is there, for Tennis, there are no restrictions. :lol2:
2. Davis Cup for practice, you sure it's not a Post-Samp/Agassi phenomenon? :lol2:
That's right, Omeha tops Kevin Spacey of The Usual Suspects in Unreliable narrative.
All predictions of Nadal faking injury and ploy to return back for USO threw right back at the face.
Will be baack :wave:
Dontchya run, I'm getting started. :poke:
KG
Olympics and Davis Cup - :rotfl2: Aduthadhu enna? Udhayam colony vs Thangam flats? Saar, this is like Vadivel's kondai in Pokkiri. You shouldnt hide your Hoffa lou any longer :notthatway:
“Olympic gold is a dream for me, maybe Davis Cup"
http://www.thehindu.com/sport/tennis/article3624358.ece
:poke:
http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthrea...l=1#post546563
Even the biggest Federer fan had conceded it before.
CL >> WC because the best players play in CL. And where did I equate it to Udhayam colony vs Thangam flats like you have?
Tell me if all the fit top seeds weren't playing in Olympics. Again, whitewashing by Yanks, nothing more. Olymypics will turn into an equivalent of GS. Thanks to top seeds of today.
Debate, no platitudes like 'now this is getting ridiculous' please.
Also, to me the CL is a major tournament, so is WC, but CL is greater. You have equated Olympics to mickey mouse tourney. Which is more convenient?
To apply the nation argument on an individual sport while underplaying it for a team sport, IMHO is convenient. Mickey mouse because of your skewed emphasis on these events. Maybe more competitive than before but is not an argument clincher. Even if Roger had won it this year, wouldnt have changed much in the debate. Illa odane concede panniruppeengala?
Typing from a mobile. Let me try to understand the giant leap of faith on Borg/Nadal and respond tomorrow hfly