IR New Albums - Ver 2006

Annamalai was directed by Suresh Krishna who also directed Baadsha.

I must agree with IR on Kavithalaya issue. Imagine doing that!

But otherwise, I have a problem with fans thinking that they have a right and should know everything that happens to their stars. Whatever is the issue between VM and IR, it's their business. Even if IR chose to not compose for Periyar, it is his business. Unless he has gone on to state something negative about Periyar, there is no need for people to drag him into controversies.

I am sure every music director has felt he has given music to kuppai films at one time or another. I mean, SJ Surya acts...

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Originally Posted by MrJudge

RS,

I bought the JV issue and read it. Still there is smoke in the air. Though IR's interview is crisp as many people think here, his version of the story differs from GS's version. To be frank, I don't know whom to believe. Though nobody has personal interaction with GS here, from his projects, we can very well understand his personality (aaarrrgh... doing the same mistake again here???). I doubt he will go that extreme against Raja. But there are couple of good things this interview brought out.

*IR's respect for Peiryar- He has acknowledged his contribution to the self-respect movement.
*His problems with Kavithalaya - I think he had taken the right decision not to compose for KB production house.

I wish someday he clarifies the issue he has with VM which is long due now :)

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You echo my feelings. More than this and the VM issue, I would like to know IR's stand on the TIS issue. This one is bigger, as it was a public effort. With this issue, we can have our private suspicions what would have happened :-) with TIS it is difficult to do even that.

http://tamil.cinesouth.com/masala/ho...112006-5.shtml

From all these i get only one thing..

Forget the person ,just hear his music and make merry :))

Our likeness for something will prejudice the opinion -really !!

FOr eg .

1.I love Illayraaja's music - would he cheat his fans in TIS ? WIll he lie for periyar movie issue ?

2.I like Fr.jegath Gasper - he is honourable person with noble intentions ( as from his interview and TIS ) -Will he lie ?

3.I like GS- He has taken bharathi - will he lie ?

From all these ,two of them should have lied here.Unless we are in the scene of crime ,no komban can tell what has happened .

So lets leave it .

PS : One thing i can tell .To refuse Annamalai,Baadsha (at a time when Raaja's market was shaken by ARR ) requires great courage ! There is less possibility that raaja would have lied here ,that too an issue with rajnikanth :)

Ramki,
You hit the nail on the head..The reason why ir refused roja was that...after many days he was approached to compose for Kalki..but he refused it just like that.

Lets leave all things aside and enjoy his music...

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Originally Posted by MumbaiRamki

PS : One thing i can tell .To refuse Annamalai,Baadsha (at a time when Raaja's market was shaken by ARR ) requires great courage ! There is less possibility that raaja would have lied here ,that too an issue with rajnikanth :)

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As Ramki rightly specified, he did have a great courage to decline RK offer..man he rocks...
He is definitely confident that he don't need to work for another RK movie to give a hit, without him he was able to (lot of movies - Azhagi, Pithamagan.etc - i mean after Baadsha)

PS:- Also I don't think IR and RK may work together in the next movie(s)...

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Originally Posted by irir123

interview paditthaen - enga ooru baashaiyila sollanumnaa, "summaa nacchunu irunducchu" - all IR bashers, 'pongadaa vennnaingalaa'!

btw, was 'Badhsa', Kavithalaya productions too ? and i cant understand why IR didnt score for other RK movies which were not KB banner ?

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That's coz Muthu and Padayappa were from the KSR factory. KSR hates IR and he openly said that in Tenali launch when asked that why not IR for this movie considering Kamal's liking for IR's works.

And Shankar will need ARR/HJ for his Brahamandam works.. as he claims.

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Originally Posted by irir123

interview paditthaen - enga ooru baashaiyila sollanumnaa, "summaa nacchunu irunducchu" - all IR bashers, 'pongadaa vennnaingalaa'!

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You forgot to add IR FANS CUM BASHERS ! and that was a nice word to refer them and you know who STOOD WITH IR on this issue right from the start ! :lol2: :thumbsup: :lol:

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Originally Posted by Renault

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Originally Posted by irir123

interview paditthaen - enga ooru baashaiyila sollanumnaa, "summaa nacchunu irunducchu" - all IR bashers, 'pongadaa vennnaingalaa'!

btw, was 'Badhsa', Kavithalaya productions too ? and i cant understand why IR didnt score for other RK movies which were not KB banner ?

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That's coz Muthu and Padayappa were from the KSR factory. KSR hates IR and he openly said that in Tenali launch when asked that why not IR for this movie considering Kamal's liking for IR's works.

And Shankar will need ARR/HJ for his Brahamandam works.. as he claims.

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Donno Why..But KSR never sticks to same MD.May be he likes to work with different music directors.
SIRPI,SOUNDARYAN,Deva, ARR, Vidyasagar,Ilayaraja and now Himesh are some of the MDs he had worked with in his 20 movies or so.

So, i don't think he has particular liking or hate towards any MD

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Originally Posted by rooky

Donno Why..But KSR never sticks to same MD.May be he likes to work with different music directors.
SIRPI,SOUNDARYAN,Deva, ARR, Vidyasagar,Ilayaraja and now Himesh are some of the MDs he had worked with in his 20 movies or so.
So, i don't think he has particular liking or hate towards any MD

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Reflected my thots on this ! :thumbsup: But what Renault says cannot be rules out either : Renault, did he openly commented about IR? What did he say ? :roll:

Yeah he openly commented when media asked why didn't he opt for IR for Tenali, with Kamal in the lead, who simply loves IR. His answer was "Kamalukku pidithaal podhumaa, makkalukku pidikka vendaamaa"

I remember how irritated and angry I was on reading that.
But after "Kaadhal konden"'s success, he told in a interview that, he was bowled over by Yuvan's music and signed him for "Ethiree"

IMHO, KSR is a pucca business person, who bets his money on successful horses of that particular time.

realactivex,
Your mother tongue is telugu isit?
Here is a treat for you
http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewt...=811135#811135

Raja's volte face - It is easier to ruffle afterall, a small bird like GnanaRajashekaran than we all know who

I cannot imagine some other MD for BHARATHI film(of course everyone knows that). I cant understand why IR asked these questions, 1.This is propaganda movie of EVR 2. Sathyaraj movie
etc. I think BASHA was produced by RMV not kavithalaya? in that case why he rejected that project also even after RK approached him personally.

IR has every right to accept or reject movies without asking above questions.

regards
ramesh

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Originally Posted by MumbaiRamki

PS : One thing i can tell .To refuse Annamalai,Baadsha (at a time when Raaja's market was shaken by ARR ) requires great courage ! There is less possibility that raaja would have lied here ,that too an issue with rajnikanth :)

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Even During BABA film also, there was the news/rumour like RK approached IR, but IR rejected that offer. i think this was came in kumudham or some weekly. But I am not sure about this news.

I am sure RK would have wanted IR for Shivaji too. But preference of Shankar and resolution of IR would have spoiled it.

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Originally Posted by rajasaranam

realactivex,
Your mother tongue is telugu isit?
Here is a treat for you
http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewt...=811135#811135

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Hi RS,
Cant thank you enough for the links!!
You made my day!! Thanks again! Looking forward for more from you.
I have a couple of very good IR songs..I am not sure if they have been heard in tamizh. i can e-mail them to you as i do not have any place on the net where i can upload them.

http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/specia...iyaraja_4.html

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Originally Posted by raja_fan

I am sure RK would have wanted IR for Shivaji too. But preference of Shankar and resolution of IR would have spoiled it.

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Shankar preferred HJ though :? ........if nobody had wanted ARR then how come he is in the movie?? interesting.....

actually, Rajni had a closed door meeting with IR after TIS release and it coincided with Shivaji launch.......so nobody knows what transpired between them?? 8-)

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Originally Posted by MADDY

actually, Rajni had a closed door meeting with IR after TIS release and it coincided with Shivaji launch.......so nobody knows what transpired between them?? 8-)

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and Shankar Present in Bhavatharini's marriage reception just after TIS launch before the announcement of Shivaji. He has never visited IR previously on any occassion :wink: Maybe Once again IR declined the offer and said 'lets be friends nothing in professional front' as he had said to Bharathiraaja 8-)

guys, I distinctly remember RK.Selvamani's(who made Captain Prabhakaran and Adhiradi Padai)interview in a Tamil weekly some 8 years ago - for some movie of RK which was to have been directed by R.K.Selvamani , RKS wanted IR for music - superstar had apparently wanted Deva or ARR instead, since "neenga venumnaa IR musicai virumbalam - aanaal makkal yedhai virumbarangalo, adhaithaney naama koduthha thaaney, padam odum" - and only because of this RKS refused to direct that movie and the director was someone else
even in a 1994 STAR Plus interview (Karan Thapar's show), SPB spoke for almost an hour - and never mentioned IR even ONCE! but spoke about everyone else, including Deva and the "Hum aapke hain kaun" music director!
maybe none of this have anything to do with IR avoiding RK movies and also SPB for many of his songs in the late 90s and 2000s, but then....hmmmm...:-?

Seeing all the discussions above.. I am just forced to type..

IR is a musical genius - Fact
IR is a staunch thesist - Fact
IR is a complete professional - Fact
IR has an bloated ego - Fact
All creative geniuses (except ARR) have a bloated ego - Fact

From my limited knowledge... IR is a biggest boon/brand in TN ... there is nobody who hasnt been touched by his music at one point or the other.... but its also eveident through thte many fights that he is/has in the past.. that he does not have a down to earth personality. And Lo! that is what made IR where he is... I have come across so many artistes... be it pandits/dancers/singers/rock bands u name it.. tell me who doesnt have this bloated egos... there are some people who refused to come to sing if there is no alcohol and does treat them with utmost respect...I can recount so many instances of high handedness of artistes...
But people still give them an ear becuase of their talents.... I think ego is necessary for the individual to attain great heights .... but bloated egos???
The problem is IR is used to adoration of his talents... his recent interviews where he talks/treat others like shit....

can you picturise this .... @ every interview IR says " I composed like this and then that guy said.. you are the furst guy in the world to do this " ....

We all have made one of the greatest mistakes of our lives by not giving IR his due... but IR shouldnt start to brag ... recent example "Kuppai padams" ...
IR hasnt come to terms that TFM is ready to move on without him....offcourse we dont want him to move out either... any piece of musical output from him is always a blesssing...

Lets be fans to his music... fans to his growth from a villager to a musical genius.... fans to his clear thought process about religion... and not to this ego.... let him be ......No amount of misadventure from IR's part is gonna rob him off his fans...

I really think this is where ARR stand apart.... his humility is just astounding.... hats off to him.....

I wonder if it is the lack of that 'whatever' ego, that ARR has failed to go beyond what he can. he did try and had one barrier to overcome but fell backwards after his Birmingham debacle. he never recovered from this even though he claimed he was still a student and therefore?

Part of IR's success is I believe due to that 'ego' he nurtured and tested to its limits - though it does not excuse the insight he lacks after having reached his limits. Or is it me who lacks insight!

kavin,
All said, you cannot question ARR's humility. I've seen some composers (who are non-entities) boasting about their songs, and when I give them a negative feedback when asked to review their songs, they come back and say I don't know music :-).

ivangLE ippadi nA people like Raja and arr should have BIG ego...but arr has been humble so far. Good for him.

The only instance I saw the case of 'sour-grapes' was when he said he wasn't interested in composing symphony because he didn't find it interesting or some such thing. (after the birmingham debacle).

IR behind two kannadians

http://features.ibnlive.com/features.../result_tn.php

I know that Rajini was not too happy about IR taking much credit for the success of Veera (their last film together).

Rajini wanted Deva's Hey.. Hey.. kind of crap to bloat up his image...

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Rajini wanted Deva's Hey.. Hey.. kind of crap to bloat up his image...

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IR behind two kannadians

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Renault, :wink: Adding some more weight to my statement :lol:

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Originally Posted by Tamilan

IR behind two kannadians

http://features.ibnlive.com/features.../result_tn.php

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who is a Kannadiga there??? hey Rajinikanth is a marathi-konkan guy......his surname Gaekwad is a typical Marathi name.......woh marathi maanus aaheth.... :lol:

but rajini is a bangalorean, if i'm not wrong.......who else??? abdul kalam, EVR looked tamil to me???

EVR is a Kannada Nayakkar. but his ancestors settled long back in Tamilnadu and since he fought for the tamil community he is better known as 'Thamizhar Thanthai' And yes Rajini is a Maratha.
And the tamilans post is to instigate some language based discrimination i believe That is unwelcome here :wink:

Maddy,

Me too :roll:

M.S.Subbulakshmi I believe is originally from AP but settled down in TN.
Shivaji rao gaekwad actually is a hardcore maratha who was brought up in Bangalore later became a super * in TN

EVRamasamy was born in Vaikkam , Kerala , lived in TN

Dr. Kalam, V.Anand and Isainyani qualify for being tamil origin

But why this linguistic / statewise identity again and again even after 50 years :evil:

Makkal thirundhave mataangalaa ? :cry:

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Originally Posted by Nakeeran

EVRamasamy was born in Vaikkam , Kerala , lived in TN

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EeVeRa Periyaar was not born in kerala, he went for a struggle at Vaikkam temple Demanding the entry of Naayars and Pulaiyars who were not allowed inside by the Namboodris, and hence came to be known as 'Vaikkam Veerar'

Rajasaranam whom did u vote for??

Kamesh,
I voted for both :wink: Raaja and periyaar

I voted for EVR ! Let us keep the source aside guys ! Let us view their contributions. Why so much discussions and clarifications. I think we can stop ! Let me the first one to :shhh: on this !

BTW, Apart from NAAN KADAVUL, what are all the movies IR is working on currently ? :?

Selva, here goes the list:

1. Maaya Kannadi (Cheran)
2. Mammooty's periodic movie in Malayalam
3. Two Telugu movies (one for Vamsi)
4. Cheeni Kum (HIndi with Amitabh bachhan and Tabu)
5. Ajantha (Tamil with new faces).

I may have missed quite a few here.. this list can further be extended ... to my knowledge.

Thanks a lot Renault !
Tamil + Telugu + Hindi + Malayaalam :shock:
:)

Renault you missed out 'Nandalala' Directed by Mysskin and the remake of Pithamagan in Kannada :)
He should be the only one working in all south indian languages and also in hindi right now :)

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Originally Posted by selvakumar

Thanks a lot Renault !
Tamil + Telugu + Hindi + Malayaalam + Kannada :shock:
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I read Ravikrishna's interview in Kungumam.

He says "IR accepted Nandhalala happily. The songs will be new".
According to him, the shooting is yet to start and will hit the theatres in September.
I wonder which September ? One year to wait for the movie ?

"CHeeni Kum" has been in the pipeline for almost a year now! when is it gonna be releases ? :-<

Hindi films always take great production time, unless it's from RGV factory.