IR News and Other Titbits Ver.2009

Singer Vijitha:

http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/...ay/180509d.asp

"இசைஞானி இளையராஜா தனது திருவாசகம் ஆல்பத்தில் பாட வைத்தாராம். 'ராஜா சார் அழைப்பார்னு எதிர்பார்க்கவே இல்லை. என்னை பாட சொல்லி கேட்டவர், சொல்லியனுப்புறேன்னாரு. இரண்டே வாரத்தில் அழைப்பு வந்தது அவரிடமிருந்து. என் காதுகளை என்னாலேயே நம்ப முடியலேன்னு சந்தோஷப்படும் விஜிதா இன்னொரு விஷயத்தையும் நமக்கு சொல்லி, ராஜாவை மஹாராஜாவாக்கினார்!தனது கைக்குழந்தையோடு பாடுவதற்கு போவாராம் விஜிதா. கணவர் குழந்தையோடு வெளியே காத்திருக்க, உள்ளே பாடிக் கொண்டிருப்பாராம். ஒரு மணி நேரத்திற்கு ஒரு முறை 'போய் குழந்தையை பார்த்திட்டு வாம்மா'ன்னு அனுப்புவாராம் ராஜா. நான் கேட்பதற்கு முன்னாடி அவரே ஞாபகம் வச்சிருந்து ஒவ்வொரு முறையும் அனுப்புவார்' என்று மெய் சிலிர்த்தார் விஜிதா."

1.From the Interview of Valmiki Director Anantha Naarayanan in this weeks Anantha Vikatan Titled : "ஒரு டீ... ஒரு காதல் "

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"இளையராஜா - வாலி கூட்டணி பத்தி..."

" அவங்கதானே படதுக்கு பளிச் லைட் ஹவ்ஸ். சென்னையின் ப்ளேவர் ராஜா சாரிடம் அத்தனை அதி சுத்தமா பரிசுத்தமா இருக்கு. வாலி சாரும் பக்கத்துல இருந்தா கேட்கவா வேணும்! ராஜா சாரே மூணு பாட்டு பாடியிருக்கார். அதுல ஒண்ணு... அக்மார்க் முத்திரை குத்தபட்ட சென்னை பாஷைப் பாட்டு. வழக்கமா சின்ன ரகசியமும் சோகமும் தாங்கி வரும் தன் குரலை ஒளிச்சுவெச்சுட்டு, அடி தொண்டையில் இருந்து பாடியிருக்கார் ராஜா சார். பின்னணி இசையில் படத்தை பிரமாதப்படுத்திட்டார்!

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The Album raises my expectation high as Iam a die hard fan of the Raaja's voice in 'Anney Anney sippai anney' and 'Antha Kaandamani' and that too if its a 'Gaana' song like 'Machi Mannaru' its gonna be a double treat :redjump: :bluejump: :redjump:

PS: Album not for Raaja voice detractors for sure.

2.From the Interview of write Jeyamohan Translating 'Pazhassiraaja' for the Dubbed version into tamil in this weeks 'Kumudam' Titled : "கேரளத்து கட்டபொம்மன்"

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"இளையராஜா இசை பற்றி...?"

"ராஜாவுக்கு ஒரு தனித்திறமை உண்டு. அவரால இசைவழியா பண்பாட்டுக்கு உள்ளே போயிட முடியும். பல வருஷங்களுக்கு முன்னாடி மலையாளத்திலே அதர்வம்னு ஒரு மாந்த்ரீகப் படம் வந்தது. அதுக்கு ராஜா தான் இசை. அதுல பயன்படுத்தப்பட்ட பெரும்பாலான வாத்தியங்கள் கெரளத்துக்கு மட்டுமே உரிய தாளவத்தியங்கள். கேரள இசை தவிர வேற ஒண்ணுமே தெரியாத ஒரு மேதை போட்ட இசை மாதிரி இருந்தது. அதான் அவரோட திற்மை.
இந்த மாதிரி படங்களுக்கு அந்த களம் பண்பாடு எல்லாம் தெரியாம இசையமைக்க முடியாது. அதுக்கு இப்ப ராஜாவை விட்டா வேற யார் இருக்கா?"

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:notworthy:

Already soaked in 2009 offerings after his hiatus in the past few years. Now these back to back releases of Albums are going to send us to the edge of madness I believe :evil:

Looks like the valmiki director knows raaja very well..when he says "சின்ன ரகசியமும் , சோகமும் தாங்கி வரும் தன் குரலை" ..
"PS: Album not for Raaja voice detractors for sure" a very good warning :-)

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Originally Posted by Plum

"Not always - for example, he felt free to sing songs like 'nAnAga nAnillai', 'idhayam oru kOvil' ' ennai thAlAtta varuvALA' etc and released them on the disc, even though he knew there's a SPB / HH version which is also on the same disc and will probably be the one that'll be on screen as well.
App, these were songs which IR sung track for I believe, and realsing those on the cassette was for satisfying his hard core fans, some of whom believe his naanaga naan illai trumps SPB's version. Sugar content on SPB's voice being high, some diabetics need Raja's insulin to counter-balance the sugar in the album when SPB features in the album :-)

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Also, atleast one of them was penned by raaja himself, which usually gives him a right to sing it :-) BTW, I dont believe he is a humble person. For that matter, I am not even sure I can deal with him as a person. But I just trust him to pick the right singers within the constraints of a commercial/filmy environment.
Some people think he should have introduced more singers like Rahman. It all depends on how demanding you want to be ..
My preference is KJY songs of IR.

Apart from IR, Rahul Nambiar, Reeta, Bela Shinde, Shreya Ghosal and Tippu have also sung for "Valmiki":

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus...0905211680.htm

thanks,

Krishnan

Tippu :-(

I can't stand ANY song that he has sung for Raja. Where's Malaysia Vasudevan now? Looks like he is as irreplacable as SPB / KJY !

I have the same opinion about Tippu! Can't stand him!

Heard one song (bit) in FM today .. Looked like typical female-vilage song ..

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Originally Posted by writeface

I have the same opinion about Tippu! Can't stand him!

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Same

The only song I liked which is sung by Tippu was Kadhal Vanthal

The Best song by Tippu for Raaja is 'Ithuvarai naanoru pazhaya manithan' from 'Konji Pesalam'

AE,

Malaysia Vasudevan nowadays comes as a judge for the singing shows. His voice is definitely gone. KJY is also struggling a bit. SPB is the one who is still going strong though the strain has started showing a bit. In the female side only Chitra is still in good form. We can safely say that as far as the male voices are concerned, an era has passed. And what an era it was!!

Tippu - only song I tolerate from his raja songs is Ennai Ketkum from Kavari Maan. Adhu kooda Karthik would have been a better choice

I never liked Tippu's voice.. it has too much of rash careless brat kind of element, instead of some seriousness in it.

But i always had some issues with IR's singer selection, with some of the songs.

I feel Tippu is a capable singer whose voice lacks the mellowness or "kuzhaivu" of an SPB but still his voice is stable when compared to MalaysiaVasudevan though not as heavy set as his. I liked his "kasturi pottu" from "konji pesalam" and "ennai ketkum" from "kasturi maan"

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mov...-22-05-09.html

as usual , these kind of statements only from raaja :(

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Originally Posted by MumbaiRamki

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/may-09-04/ilayaraja-22-05-09.html

as usual , these kind of statements only from raaja :(

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:( Too bad if Raaja had misunderstood mysskin :(

In tamil

http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/...ay/220509c.asp

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Vaalmigi trailor

Innda Pandy Inna Panna Pora

I like this song

MumbaiRamki, although I too at first was thinking "oh no...there he did it again", but there are two things to this. One is, if IR had not responded to that statement, people would think or interpret (and probably even publish a rumour) this as "Mysskin, supporter (or messenger) of IR is promoting IR". Remember, there are directors (Shankar) who has not worked with IR. I think even Linguswamy has not worked with IR. So that could hurt IR's ego (another thing). I don't think, IR, for his talent and character, could have put it in a more polished way. So, I feel right about what IR did. In the process, he must have made Mysskin uncomfortable. Had IR not responded, even Mysskin would have earned a bad name in the industry/press.

IR, despite many of the top directors (MR, KB, BR, etc) not working with him anymore, has sustained very well in the industry for so many years. The full credit should go to his talent and only talent. IR has proven that he does not need any top director to not just survive in the industry, but also be in the reckoning. I truly admire IR for this achievement. I agree that top (and good) directors can certainly extract the better of him and I also do wish that he works with them, but what IR did in the function was probably right. My view.

thanks,

Krishnan

Just read the tamil version. It gives more gory details of his speech :). Yes, he could have avoided unnecessary references. I think he was a little angry with Mysskin even otherwise and this statement from Mysskin (that all directors should work him for full satisfaction) had angered and hurt his ego further. I still feel what IR said about not requiring any recommendation, point blank, was right.

Eri malai vedithu sidhariyadhu! :)

thanks,

Krishnan

enna kovathula irunthaaro theriyala. but tis incident will still alienate him from new directors who wish to work with him :(

IR in his "original" controversial style :-(

However, there's a silver lining to the cloud - he was composing best when he was like this. There was so much thuLLal. Looks like he has got younger again.

So we can hope to get thuLLal music for the current ventures :-)

Forget what happened at the function. The trailor of Valmiki looks good. Very well shot. Hopefully the film will be a good one. The song tells the whole story and I too like the song.

இளையராஜாவின் கோபத்திற்கு ஆளான மிஷ்கின்!


பொதுவாக எந்த விழாக்களிலும் கலந்து கொள்ள மாட்டார் இசைஞானி இளையராஜா. அது அவரே இசையமைத்த படங்களின் விழாவாக இருந்தாலும்!

அப்படிப்பட்டவர், வால்மீகி படத்தின் ஆடியோ வெளியீட்டு விழாவில் கலந்து கொண்டார். மேடையில் பேசிய மிஷ்கின் இளையராஜாவை உயர்த்தி பேசும் நோக்கத்துடன் சில வார்த்தைகள் பேச, பின்னாலேயே மைக் பிடித்த இசைஞானிக்கு பொத்துக் கொண்டு வந்தது கோபம்.



"நான் இதுபோன்ற நிகழ்ச்சிகளில் கலந்து கொள்ளாமலிருப்பதற்கு காரணம், பாராட்டுரைகள்தான். ஒன்று தன்னையே பாராட்டிக் கொள்வார்கள். அல்லது மற்றவர்களை பாராட்டி தள்ளுவார்கள். யாரும் எனக்கு பட வாய்ப்புகள் வாங்கி தரும் நிலையில் நான் இல்லை. இங்கே மேடையில் பேசிய மிஷ்கின் சொல்லிதான் நான் நன்றாக இசையமைப்பேன் என்பதை மற்றவர்கள் தெரிந்து கொள்ளும் நிலையில் இல்லை. நான் வானம்! மின்னல்களோ, இடியோ என்னை ஒன்றுமே செய்யாது. இந்த மிஷ்கின் 'நந்தலாலா' படத்தின் ரீரெக்கார்டிங்கை முடித்துக் கொண்டு பெட்டியை கட்டியவர்தான். அதற்கு பிறகு என்ன ஆனார் என்றே தெரியவில்லை. இப்போதுதான் பார்க்கிறேன்" என்று செம பிடி பிடித்தார்.

பேசிவிட்டு அப்படியே மேடையை விட்டு கீழே இறங்கி நடையை கட்டியதுதான் இன்னும் அதிர்ச்சி. இளையராஜா போன்ற பெரிய மலையை நம்மை போன்ற கூழாங்கற்கள் விமர்சிக்க கூடாதுதான். ஆனாலும் நமது கேள்வி ஒன்றே ஒன்றுதான். நான் வானம், என்னை இடியோ மின்னலோ ஒன்றும் செய்ய முடியாது என்று ஒருவர் பேசுவதும் ஒரு வகையான தற்புகழ்ச்சிதானே ஐயா?

-ஆர்.எஸ்.
http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/...ay/220509c.asp

Now which is which. So many sites with different accounts of what thalaivar said. Ah forget it. :banghead:

Well , i really don't understand of why so much emotions have to be spilled out . Really , if you were a big fan of Illayaraaja and you speak like this , and in return raaja sir speaks like , you will be hurt .

But then , what Mysskin said is really true and so many directors ahve said the same- so why only now ?

Well the reactions are nothing new from IR. You have to understand he is one who is inclined to music rather than the film industry. He has already mentioned before about his stance about music. What Mysskin said even though it was not derogatory sounded like a plea for others to work with him. That is already against IR's system of belief when it comes to music. He hates being mediated around.

He spoke his mind and that's it. But not to the extent of what is being reported. Its good that thalaivar does not act like a super good man and is himself. Well he did wish Mysskin well and although it was fiery it was justified.

Indha myshkin dhaane 6 paattu kettuttu, adhula 1 mattum padathula use panninavar. Andha kaduppu kooda irukkalam.

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Indha myshkin dhaane 6 paattu kettuttu, adhula 1 mattum padathula use panninavar. Andha kaduppu kooda irukkalam.

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he is also waiting for the man in my avatar for his next movie (if sources are to be believed) :) i think this could have also enraged IR - like u begged me to do a movie for u and u cut the songs and then move to ARR - how cheap of u........ :lol:

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Originally Posted by Hulkster

Its good that thalaivar does not act like a super good man and is himself

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r u talking abt rajinikanth here :P

I am a rajinikanth fan and rajinikanth whether papers mention it or not is one who clearly hates limelight and prefers to be normal. I mean others like mr gangai amaran.

Thalaivar does not hold grudges, alot of directors except a few have jumped to other composers after working with him so it cannot be because of that. What Mysskin said is naturally against his principle and probably explains the "global recognition" thingy. Like i have mentioned he is only inclined to music and nothing else.

I think it is high time IR polishes his PR skills. No need to be harsh on somebody who after all appreciated you.

Did anybody know what exact Myskkin talked before IR? Was it in a way to hurt IR's ego? Even if that is the case, given IR's stature, he can forgive him.

Don't know it is my thought. No point in alienating more and more at end of career.

http://www.cinesouth.com/masala/hotn...052009-1.shtml

Forget the PR skills. Thalaivar's principle already states he just wants to be with music and only music, while we want him to continue working and go higher and do international films.

Well we may want him to be popular but considering he is not interested in being pursued as a musical icon then lets leave it. Lets just enjoy his songs. :D

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Originally Posted by Hulkster

I am a rajinikanth fan and rajinikanth whether papers mention it or not is one who clearly hates limelight and prefers to be normal. I mean others like mr gangai amaran.

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:lol: seri seri naa nambitten.......

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Thalaivar does not hold grudges, alot of directors except a few have jumped to other composers after working with him so it cannot be because of that.

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hmm, im not sure on the grudge part......i dont think he has returned to normal talking terms with KB, Mani or even BR for that matter.....

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Like i have mentioned he is only inclined to music and nothing else.

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i dont think thats the case here, he has appeared in more movies than ARR in tamil......there are hordes of his songs which are self-appreciatory.......to explain this behavior at audio function, i think he just does and says wat he thinks is right - doesent hold back like others......theres no problem with that as long as he knows the way he put it across......yea, as plum said once, we try to slot geniuses of this order with our sense and sensibilities - they live in their world of own.....fair enuf

hey indha matter-la, shankar sonna nalla comments amungi pochhu...searching for a link but not finding it.......shankar had said whenever he feels down in his life, he listens to IR songs to lift himself up :) //vaadi, endhiran enga kitta dhaane varanum :P :lol: //

http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/...ay/230509b.asp

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Originally Posted by [url=http://www.dinamani.com/edition/story.aspx?&SectionName=Cinema&artid=63789&Section ID=141&MainSectionID=141&SEO=&Title=

Dinamani[/url]] இயக்குநர் ஷங்கர் பேசும்போது...

""என் உதவியாளர் அனந்தகிருஷ்ணன் துடிப்பானவர்; திறமையானவர். அதனால்தான் நல்ல படைப்பையும் படைப்பாளிகளையும் ஆதரிக்கும் விகடன் நிறுவனம் அவருக்கு வாய்ப்பளித்துள்ளது. இதுவரை இளையராஜாவுடன் திரைப்படங்களில் பணியாற்ற எனக்கு வாய்ப்பு அமையவில்லை. ஒரு விளம்பரப் படத்தில் மட்டுமே பணியாற்றியிருக்கிறேன்.

அடிக்கடி சோர்வுறும்போதும் என் மனம் சஞ்சலம் அடையும்போதும் நான் தேடுவது இளையராஜாவின் பாடல்களைத்தான். அவற்றைக் கேட்டவுடன் புத்துணர்வு பிறக்கும். இளையராஜா இசையில் விகடன் நிறுவனம் தயாரித்துள்ள "வால்மீகி' படம் வெற்றியடைய வாழ்த்துகிறேன்'' என்றார்.

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Maddy, here it is :P

Shankar/Mysskin speech: http://indiainteracts.com/newplatform/23083/
Ilaiyaraaja speech: http://indiainteracts.com/newplatform/23101/
Complete Function videos: http://www.sivajitv.com/Item.do?cate...02&id=it001446

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Originally Posted by Nerd

Shankar/Mysskin speech: http://indiainteracts.com/newplatform/23083/
Ilaiyaraaja speech: http://indiainteracts.com/newplatform/23101/
Complete Function videos: http://www.sivajitv.com/Item.do?cate...02&id=it001446

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Kodi punniyam Nerd! Why these media is pouncing upon every opportunity like street mongrels to create confusion :x yes raaja was little upset but he handled the situation well IMHO. The mention of ARR's Name by Mysskin was not in good light :(

I don't think Mysskin crossed the line. He told IR took all the suggestions. He told everybody should work atleast one movie with IR to know what the experience is.

Don't know what irked IR? But IR way of putting it is much milder what was quoted in media. He was expressing it laughingly for most part.

See told you guys press can never be trusted. No wonder thalaivar never appears before this fellas. I think its fair to say next time we wait for evidence rather than hasty judgement.