<shakes head and slowly hums>
Jinjinakku janakku
naan sollithaaren kanakku
</shakes head and slwly hums>
<shakes head and slowly hums>
Jinjinakku janakku
naan sollithaaren kanakku
</shakes head and slwly hums>
listen to this piece by Morricone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ4bawWWvCE
its the most beautiful "blabbering" in music I've heard (other than in IR songs). I think both IR and Morricone are geniuses who know what they are doing.
ok all - no more ramblings on my part! truce!
its all out of my sincere genuine desire IR's music shd find the right respectful place in history that i keep lamenting
hopefully in another 10 days, i will have some good news - until then - tata!
Year 2009 Seems to the best in this decade for IR, hope all will agree, Enna mathiri variety of Songs Kuduthu Irukaar. From Naan Kadavul to Suryakanthi. Try Listening all the albums in a row and Comment them in few lines for each album. Apuram pesunga Sound, Chorus, Rhythms etc. pathi ellam.
ROFL on the pee...pee thing !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
That "pee pee..." is such a sick thing in that song, that I hated that song just for that...I was embarrassed to play it in front of my mallu-land relatives (I used to stop the cassette, and play Side-B :) )
Let' admit another thing...The weakest link of Raja's music is his vocal harmony...from light boy, his car driver to Gangai Amaran and arunmozhi everyone sings in the chorus...Every chorus of his reminds me of "Rajadhi rajan indha Raja..." sung by Ravi krishna and friends in 7G rainbow colony :)Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
that too @ the age of 66!
that too @ the age of 66! is for ....
Year 2009 Seems to the best in this decade for IR, hope all will agree, Enna mathiri variety of Songs Kuduthu Irukaar. From Naan Kadavul to Suryakanthi. Try Listening all the albums in a row and Comment them in few lines for each album. Apuram pesunga Sound, Chorus, Rhythms etc. pathi ellam.
the male singer in 'edeya bagilu' (suryakanthi) - is the choice deliberately made to sound like the late kannada icon Rajkumar ? the initial portions when he begins the pallavi did remind me of late RK's voice! did anyone else feel the same ?
irir123,
Actually Kunal Ganjawala's opening reminded me of Raja. I felt he was probably singing exactly like how Raja wanted him to sing. For some unknown reason I am always taken aback when he sings 'without you'. It sounds like 'viraha choo' which doesn't mean anything :) In this song as well as well as in 'chinna polike', the female of the species does better than the male.
If there was one song which reminded me of Rajkumar, it was 'yenidu yenidu' from 'Nannavanu'. Lovely song that one.
Looks like the director of 'Om Shanthi' is into blogging. He has started writing his experience of meeting Raja. This seems to be the first part. Need to follow this site to get the whole story.
http://prakashpov.blogspot.com/2009/...ayaraja-1.html
irir ..ungaLukku theriyAdha vishayathai ..adhuvum IR music paRRI naan enna solla poRen..from a a social point of view edhO uLarinEn..prasad and app surprisingly seem to have similar views. (BTW, I did not like swalpa soundu that much , but today I patiently listened to the prelude which seemed to put me in the mood for the song completely.. the main refrain and the rockish guitar in the interlude actually reminded me of U2 ..very weird.)
kiru - yenakku IR music la ulla niraiyya technical matters theriyave theriyaadhu/puriyaadhu!Quote:
Originally Posted by kiru
IR is not doing any private albums - a TiS, music messiah notwithstanding, his only output is in the filmy format - so whatever we might say to justify the use of elements such as the ones mentioned above, its becoming increasingly difficult to showcase his filmy output, if they have such elements - of course, if we dont care abt how its perceived by others, then no arguments - but for his music to have universal appeal (which am sure it does), the least he can do is get rid of these things - tats IMHO
IRIR,
My thoughts - nothing new but felt like writing it..Digression again . sorry for the rant folks..
IR and his capability (or the lack therof ) to market his "stuff" is one topic that we are all painfully aware of .. In my HO, IR can be a excellent case study for how poor marketing/PR skills can make/break a product. He is a genius in Music ( and skills related to music) ( and sometimes lyrics - Ramana Maalai and some of Azhagi songs are testimony ) . Period. He seems to lack badly in every other department outside of music. Maybe True Creators/Artists are very hard to manage, typically lack business/Social skills - So to wish for IR to think of the marketability of the product while he creates it is against his creative process. Who knows.. so to me efforts in marketing his product outside of South are laudable, but unless IR puts his mind to it ( maybe it's too late now ) it's going to be an uphill battle..
I know Hindsight is always 20-20.. So looking back, if he had even the basic biz skills or atleast had some sense to have a business dev/mktng guy by his side, he would have been well of with just 200 of his albums with a selection of just the 3-4 gems per album that were there in every single album of his in the early/mid/late 80's/ , 2-3 gems in every single album in the 90's and 0-2 gems in select albums in the current decade. But he accepted every movie that came his way and made money out of it without recognizing the "true potential" of his stuff. HTNI/NBW were sparks that were in the right direction, but did not go much further than excite the NRI folks.. Again this realization alone could have hurted his creativity/spontaneity. the success he had in the 80's were hugely due to his creativity/spontaneity/speed over weighing all these shortcomings..
In my HO, Current generation MD's care way too much about the maketability/popularity of their creation than the music itself and succeed to a great extent ..though short lived..
But the irony is that i read somehwere that IR was the first to come up with the concept of selling Audio cassettes ( remember the echo company that he owned ) well ahead of the movie releases and created a biz segment out of it..
In my HO, Current generation MD's care way too much about the maketability/popularity of their creation than the music itself and succeed to a great extent ..though short lived..
Cheers
MSK
:2thumbsup: Well said, I too felt the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Listen to "Chinna Polike" song, especially when kunal and sunidhi repeat the pallavi/anupallavi portions after the first charanam. I loved it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punnaimaran
thanks,
Krishnan
Exactly for the same reason, this song tops my list in Paa...My 4 yr old daughter, while riding tricycle, was humming "gum sum gum" for every pedal, and I had tears in my eyes...Man...this guy made my dad play thumbi vaa in a repeat mode (pAvam cassette niruthi...rewind paNNi pOduvAr :) )....and my kid is singing without me initiating her forcibly into Raja's music....Quote:
Originally Posted by writeface
This guy is just amazing...my only worry is he shouldn't be another Vincent Van Gogh !
http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/top10.asp
Paa on top !
Beautiful Song from this album....Quote:
Originally Posted by krish244
Strong Dose from our Raaja...
Sweet Guitar..... As usual Friendly.........
enna ragam nu solla mudiyuma........ By any chance......
>>>>>Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulkster
I dunt think you guys ever understood his style of music in the first place. Just fans by chance thats all
<<<<<
saringa baaas....konjam Raja-Oda style ai eppadi purinjukkaradhu epdi nu sollikuduththA, dhanyanAvEn.
Dude, I can't be a fanatic who will take everything Raja gives, like you are. Give me an Adhi Ushus, Paa...and edhaya baagilu, I will take it. chumma pOra vara pAttellAm super..super nu sollittu ungaLa mAdhiri alaya mudiyAdhu ennAla...
when you talk good things about a song, please substantiate technically how the song is good (suresh/Raagas can help you there). I will respect your opinion then.
Dear Shankar,
Neenga mathavangalai kaekareenga..
Naan Thalai idaradhu Manners ilai. Analum ,
Help pannalam nu nenaikaren...
Ungaluku endha paatu pidikalai... Adha sollunga....
epadi kaekaradhu nu solren........
Appadi podunga Arivaala-- Usha
The songs are made for mood and we usually listen to situations. The romantic songs are always for all situations. Whenever i want a break in office works, I will hear raja song , even in hectic work activity i will hear a song and go for meeting.
The Present songs which i live with are :
1) Aadhiyusha - what a roaring music
2) Kunnathae - soothing my whole body - applaus to KSC
3) madankala Mythavanalle - appreciate the whole crew and the directior for sensible taking.
and also I like the tribal song in audio.
Here in kuwait I am searching the original CD, wherever I go they shown the pirated MP3 versions, even in kerala shops. We can think how bad the marketing is, even in dubai i tried with my friends, not reached so far.. What to do :oops:
All the "PR" songs are of great energy , I bet nobody globally would have composed a song which gives us both "sympathy and roaring courage for a battle".
IR is the only Music director in the indian film industry who sustain and return like a storm.
And, why we have to compare our albums with Amercan strategy, Is they create songs for for " mother son relationship" " father son relationship" "Revenge" "celebrations" "unfaithful" "depression" "frustration" " friendship" " Lulubee" " courage " "songs in battlefield" "godfaith" "Loss" "Gain" "Happy " "Sorrow" "Seduce" "gratitude" "thanksgiving".... whatever the situation in real life. My master will give for the situation. All I can say is IR is the person who should give awards not to receive awards.
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But one thing dear friends , tell me that following flims the recordings are not clear , may be i am hearing in pirated downloads or really somthing is missing in the recording
1. Mallipuvu - amazing songs
2. Prem Khani
3. Surya kanthi
4. Om shanti
I watched PR and PAA in kuwait in a IMAX theatre , the re recording is good and my friends were talking that the bow pulling the string and direction of the arrow can be easily imagine by closing the eyes.
In PAA the repetative theme might have minimised with new tunes.
Any how ......... I am happy person , because I go to trans situation whenver i hear IR songs.
LIKE SEX TO HUMAN BODY, I CAN ANALOGOUS "IR MUSIC' TO HUMAN SOUL.
Regards to all IR fans...
brother, brother - idhai thaan IR "pasikkidhu pasikkidhu dhinam dhinam dhaan, thinnaa pasiyidhu theerndhidudhaa ?" apdeennu paadinaaro ?!Quote:
Originally Posted by appushiva
idhey rangela poi, IRai Osha Rajneesh of music appdeennu pattam kudukkaama irundha sari!
Usha chEchi,
1. kAttukuLLE nadakkiradhE, malarE (kAdhal kadhai)
2. dhanam, dhanam/koothu oNNu, koothu oNNu (dhanam)
3. unnai enakku/karuga maNi (azhagar malai)
indha 6 pAttil endha portions ai eppadi rasikkaradhu nu solli kudungO. Especially unnai enakku & dhanam dhanam.
ennAla mudiyalai...please help !!
appushiva,
>>>>>>
Whenever i want a break in office works, I will hear raja song , even in hectic work activity i will hear a song and go for meeting
<<<<<<
We have this part in common...some of the songs I listen to are:
1. nee pArtha pArvaikkoru nanri
2. poomalayE thOL sErava
3. indha minminikku kaNNil oru minnal vandhadhu
4. madai thirandhu (especially right before design discussions or a serious discussion with my team)
5. kanavil midhakkum
6. thaththAram mozhiyamma
7. kOththumbi
8. raja raja sOzhan nAn
9. bhoopALam isaikkum
10. thumbi vaa
neenga eppadi ??
netrikkaN la rajnikanth theme, rAmanin mOhanam song ellAm kEttuttu channel mAthinA "karuga maNi...karuga maNi" sappai sandhathOda pAttu varadhu...indha ALu yEn ippadi time waste paNrAr nu kOvam varudhu...sari irukkara past numbers ai rasichu Otta vENdiyadhu thAn nu nenaichA, pAzhA pOna manushan oru Pazhassiyaum/Paa vum/edheya bagilu vayum koNdu vandhu nikkarAr...vENAm...ALUdhuruvEn....:)
Good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
But why are we not applying the same logic to Charu Niveditha? Why are we calling him crazy, dog, etc.?
Kamal has made Ilaiyaraaja to do some 'like this song, like that song' songs as well. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
par,Quote:
Originally Posted by par
Yen vambuku alaiyareenga....
Chaaru vum suresh um equala......
Suresh oda views elalm parthu irukeengala....
or
Neenga dhan IR songs patri nalladha solli irukeengala......
but one point to your view
indha chaaru - nandhala music ku IR ai patri nalladha
solli irukar nu kelvipaten..
adhaiyum padinga....
Vambai mootai katti vainga....pl.....
Shankar,Quote:
Originally Posted by Shankar
kandipa help panren.
give me little bit time.....
konjam mood out.
thread nalladha poindu irundhalae - yarukavadhu
edho agum..
konjam disturb panranga...
hmmm....
varen.
Unnai enaku - indha song ku solren.........
Unnai enaku
Shankar - idhu ungalukaga ezhudahren....
paatai headphone la kaelunga
IR songs pathi - pre image , idea ellathaiyum
azhichidunga...
plain a nenachikitu kaeka arambinga....
pesindu, velai senjindu - mood out
indha feelings oda - IR oda - New Film Songs ai thayavu senju kaekadheenga..
Shankar - my dad used to be an IR-disliker (not hater), more so for his roots than an objective assessmen of his music - slowly he used to silently admire his genius but never admitting it openly! it was always AM Raja, MSV, a Salilda but never IR! for him and other family members, IR = dappankuthu music director. Unlike me who was hooked to IR's music right from the age of 5 when i first listened to his music in a 'kuzhaai' speaker in a quaint park in tirunagar, madurai (the park and the pillaiyar temple with its 'namboodhiri style-beard' sporting priest/kurukka still do exist in madurai!-))Quote:
Originally Posted by Shankar
until he saw an interview of IR on DD in the mid 1990s - i did not see the interview, but when i came home for vacation, he tells me with a completely changed tone - a tone that was once filled with dread and disprespect was now all awe and respect - paraphrasing him "indha aalu sadharana aalu illai! sithhan maari sirikkiraan - yedho oru amanushyamana power - ella casetteaiyum vechittu po" - i had to spend the next semester without my favorite collections of IR!
IR thus IMHO has an uncanny means of teasing ppl with his music as well as his personality! thus he will make you hate him as much as his music one day and next day, you will do the opposite!
avarum avar musicum puriyaadha pudhirgal!
Unnai enaku
About prelude
Veenai equala na oru sound - Synth sound il....
ipadi gavanichu kelunga.
Wah Wah sound ku equala oru sound.....
Beautiful lady's humming........
its easily merging with the veena sound......
could not seperate the humming and the veena sound.
Guitar like sound udan prelude mudindhu,
paatu start aradhae....
indha Beauty ungal kaadhuku pogalaiya Shankar...
(Shankar - indha per ennai romba disturb panradhu.. edho en kuda naanae pesara madhiri..
anyway, innum nalla review dhan kedaikum...
Suya alasal madhiri.. hahhaha..)
par,Quote:
Originally Posted by par
Charu's agenda is clear to everyone except to those who want to turn a blind eye :) I would more than willing to give the benefit to Charu had he just been expressing his views and not deliberately say stuff like 'Paa makes Raja a joker in North' and stuff like that. In case of Karthik, we can have difference of opinion with his reviews but again it is quite clear that he doesn't push an agenda.
(I am surprised that I have to explain this :D I thought it would be quite obvious to those who read Charu and those who read Karthik.)
I have no clue who called Charu a dog but I am certain that guy is going to have a tough time with the dogs when he walks the streets :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by par
I think you misunderstood me. I wonder why we should let anybody's opinion bother us.Quote:
Originally Posted by tvsankar
//Neenga dhan IR songs patri nalladha solli irukeengala......//
I like to keep my likes and dislikes to myself.
Bhavadharni's singing - is really energetic...
Unnai enaku thandhadharu - Bhavadharni kooda varum Ladys' chorus.......
romba azhagu....
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
amman dhan amman dhan
osai dhan osai dhan
thum ka thum ka thuma thaka
kudave varum Beats - all are nice to hear.....
Melae sonna athanai vishayam, Strong Hamsadhvani yil
varumae - adhu inum azhagu.......
Unnai enaku - this time - wah wha guitar, beats, chorus - ivai ellam oru ootam odumae....
Heroine - Hero vai thedi odi padara madhiri oru mood ai kodukum.........
1st interlude
dono the name of the instrument...
it gives the Hamsadhvani's Extract....
its smoothly transfered from left ear to right ear......
NIce experience it is...
soap bubbles madhiri oru sound - it acts like a bridge.....
Violin ?????/ - Enna oru sharp notes. as a knife..... vettara madhiri....
Now the charanam starts...
Bubbly sounds - Reflector of the singer...
too much friendly..........
2nd interlude
this portion is tooooooo much SHARP.........
Guitar and bubbly sound, kaadhai kashta padutha
oru instrument.... eventhough its too much sharp.......
Hamsadhvani yaga varum violin bit... it calls
the singer to see the hero........
this 2nd interlude - surely gives you the
night mood........
Now the charanam starts........
ipadi kaeka mudiyaradha.. mudiyalaiya....
sollungo Shankar.......
I read some pages back 'sooriyanai paarthu..' proverb.
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
Par,
ungaluku reply panna maten...
Anavasiyama idam waste agum.......