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App_Engine அண்ணாவை உடனே ஆஜர் ஆகுமாறு உத்தரவுடுகிறேன் :)
As far as I know, its Kuyilukko koo koo koovida solli koduppOm from friends, which was way back in 2001. No songs for 10 years?! I don't know what's stopping him from giving songs to SPB. He still sounds good and will be available at a very reasonable price too. Its a pity that we have to listen to B-grade singers like Prasanna singing for Raja sir..Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
App_E, (silently) enjoying the series :-) :-)
Oh yes, I remember that. I agree about B Grade singers, TFM is full of it now, Most of the Male singers sing like Females,or Like they have some sort of throat infection, Not to mention their excellent Tamil pronounciation skills. Just listen to SPB's Endhiran song 'puthiya Mani' he still sounds like 25 year old, though he is nearing his 65th Birthday :shock:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerd
Param, I'm quite weak in recent song stats - SPB / IR or otherwise :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Me too :( but like Nerd said, Friends was probably the Last SPB + IR songs :(Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
PS,
As far as I know the last tamizh songs in SPB+IR combo is from Vishwa Thulasi (2004). But the music is by both MSV and IR. Beautiful songs in that movie. SPB's 'Nizhalin Kathai' and 'Kannamma Kanavillaiya' are top class from the Legends (SPB+MSV+IR).
Yes beautiful Film, excellent acting by Mamooty (as usual) and Nandita das. AFAIK the songs were composed by MSV and BGM was done by IR ( I remember hearing some where )Quote:
Originally Posted by V_S
You may be right, tune might have been composed by MSV, but the orchestration and arrangements in the songs makes me believe it's IR. I may be wrong. RS, Suresh, anyone please clarify.Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Another Movie which had this Combination was yester year Mike Mohan's 'Mella thiranthathu kathavu". It had MSV composing the songs, while IR did the BGM!Quote:
Originally Posted by V_S
#27 முதன் முதலாக காதல் டூயட் பாட வந்தேனே
(நிறம் மாறாத பூக்கள், 1979 )
While this song is definitely not the "first love duet" for SPB or SJ (or Sudhakar / Radhika), it was the first SPB song for a BR film :wink:
BR had four jubilee hits prior to NMP. Even though BR-IR were friends to SPB prior to BR's first directorial venture, it so happened that there were no SPB songs in any of the first four.
Not even in the city-based-Kamal-movie sigappu rOjAkkaL :roll: Possibly schedule conflicts, as SPB was getting busy in TFM, TeFM & KFM, recording for all composers, stars, directors & production houses. (One observation - though SPB led his way in singing for Kamal overall, he didn't sing even one song for BR+Kamal movies. 16V - all MV, SR -KH & MV, tik^3 -KJY, OKD -KJY / UM)
This thuLLal, kuRumbu SPB-SJ song is a riot with all it's references - Zee amman, Ghantasala song used in a comical way (எழிலாள் சிற்பமாக என் எதிரில் நாணி மறைந்திடுவாள் ஓஓஒ, BTW, is it SPB or someone else?), nadigai = kazhudhai etc :lol: IR in great mood too, right from the prelude one can sense his enthu for "music-for-comedy". Also, had his signature rhythm arrangement!
Minor correction - MSV composed "tunes" for all songs except kuzhaloodhum which was IR's and they both worked together during composing sessions. IMO, even orchestration had inputs from MSV as the rhythm arrangement of 'ooru sanam' is MSV-like.Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
It was a real case of "both genius composers working together" IMO!
Yes Muthul Muthulaga was One hilarious Song :lol:
Yes indeed !Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
That the "kuzhaloodhum" melody is by IR had supposedly been told by MSV himself in some program.
It can also be attested by the fact that IR reused it for cheeni kum :wink:
That AB / Nandita Das movie :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Mandrum vantha thendraluku tune was also used in this hindi Movie, the song was sung by KSC
அந்தம்மா பேரு "தபு" :-) The female singer -all 3 songs - was Shreya!Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Sorry :oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
தபு உங்களுக்கு அம்மாவா :shock: :)
Spot on regarding the orchestration having IR's unique stamp. I always feel this when I listen to this song, especially the preludes or the interludes they invoke a pleasant, dreamy feel which is only IR possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
As to the video, it's nightmarish stuff, especially the costumes of KRV, so better stay away from it. However, the location where this song is shot is very beautiful and that's the only thing I like about the picturization.
It was Colombo :(Quote:
Originally Posted by rajkumarc
ok, the time has come for a significant landmark album of Raja where SPB had two fantastic songs. (I reserve the more interesting song for tomorrow, Friday :wink: The other one is featured in this post)
It's common knowledge that those of IR's songs that "sounded different" from contemporary MDs have always been bigger hits, regardless of other innovations. These were achieved by him via many techniques - well, sometimes through technology (Priya the obvious example) but mostly by his innovative arrangements and unusual combination(s) of standard instruments.
On that count, it was a great moment when பகலில் ஒரு இரவு songs were first heard from a sound-service shop in the ground floor of a building in town while I was waiting in upper floor. (It was a wait in dentist's office for a relative while he was undergoing some treatment).
Wow, they were so different "sounding" and I was almost jumping! There was no doubt as to who the MD was as the first one heard was 'thOttam kaNda rAsAva', sung by IR himself. Getting blasted off from big box speakers with those terrific beats, tribal sounds and bass, they were so much thrilling to hear. 'thAmtha dheemtha' had the first-of-its-kind rhythm arrangement, with heavily boosted bass guitar sounds (well, for the time period) and I knew something extraordinary has arrived.
As I later learnt, it was not for a big name producer or star but got made in totally strange company. The director was I V Sasi, so infamous in TN for his "A" rated "AR" in which the actress was "his-wife-to-be-in-future". (It was many years later that I found out not all his Malayalam movies were "maRRa" kind. He was a highly successful commercial director in MFI).
Well, all that mattered was his combo with IR in TFM produced some of the top songs ever, especially going by bass guitar sounds.
#28, பொன்னாரம் பூவாரம் கண்ணோரம் சிருங்காரம்
(பகலில் ஒரு இரவு, 1979 ) had the advantages of both the bass-boosted sounds and typical-IR-70's instrumental arrangements combined with a killer melody. The wind instrument that responds after he sings ponnAram poovAram (is it shenoy) is so soothing and so are the flute passages through out the song!
SPB enjoys himself in the song, அப்படியே சொக்கிச்சொக்கி, இழைந்து இழைந்து பாடி இருக்கிறார். (அவருக்குக்"காலமெல்லாம் தேனிலவு" இருக்கக்கடவதாக!)
I doubt its Colombo. It was shot in some outdoor hilly locale, with a river flowing by and all. Don't think its Ooty. A beautiful place that fits the songs mood perfectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Beautiful post App as usual!. Great joy in listening to this album as a whole.
Thottam kanda rasave and thamtha dheemtha are very unique and innovative compositions, especially the later. The prelude (and second interlude) chorus with bass guitar is absolutely stunning. He has almost used chorus as if it is an instrument. The rhythm arrangement is very interesting.
Coming to Ponnaram Poovaram , lovely lovely song! But first time I am hearing SPB singing சீர் (seer) as "cheer". While the locations for this song are amazing, very funny to see the romance being one-sided. While Vijay kumar acts normally, Sridevi was very uncomfortable and with her artificial smile. I don't know why most of the IR beautiful and finest compositions are being visualized in an amateur way.:???:
I read some where it was colombo! and Even my Parents think it was Colombo :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rajkumarc
Digression >> Just realised that When sudhakar sings ." Zeenat en kanavil vanthal" he was actually refering to Zeenat Amman ! :lol2: , epadiyellam yosikiraangappa :lol2: <<
Great composer, lesser than mediocre filmakers. Eedukudukka mudiyala. This song was used as "alcohol" joke in a Vadivelu schtick. He tries to stop drinking, then others keep reminding of drinks, like whiskey, then someone comes along and sings this song with emphasis on "rammm"Quote:
Originally Posted by V_S
Yes That was a hilarious scene, pls remind me the name of the movie. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
The 'cheer' is possibly because of SasiyEttan. I've seen some of my Kumari district friends always pronouncing that Thamizh letter as 'ch'.Quote:
Originally Posted by V_S
To Sridevi's defence, I think it's one of those "child in woman's body" roles and probably that's one of the reasons for her expressions. (That too one with some traumatic past). Even without discounting for that story background, I think this is one of the better picturisations for songs in TF. The settings are quite natural thanks to IVS (rich couple honey-mooning in a hill station like mooNAR, enjoying the surroundings - no awkward dance movements with Alps in background etc :wink: )
App anna
Eagerly waiting for 'இளமையெனும் பூங்காற்று' song from you :)
Folks
There was another MSV+IR+SPB combo in the 90's If I remember correctly, it was a Prabhu/Sukanya Film. It had excellent SPB numbers like 'Chinna Chinna thooral enna ennai konjum saaral enna' , Kaalaiyuil poothathu kovil mani'. Can some one remind me the movie name pls.
PS,Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
That is Senthamizh Paattu. Yes, beautiful melodies!
:lol: Oh no! I could not dare to see this song in such visuals. As App said, the original one is definitely not a spoiler with dances, just that the acting was amateur'ish.Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
நன்றி :) I am going to try and get the DVD just for the song! One more song from the Movie. 'Adi komathaa engal kulamaath' . SPB :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by V_S
Agree :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by V_S
I'm reminded of the comment from one of my former teammates (a lady from AP) about Sridevi : "I can't stand her, she looks so childish in every romantic scene" :lol: Actually she told us more than once the same statement and each time I used to defend Sridevi, telling her to watch the Thamizh movie 'Johny' :wink:
Obviously, in P oru I, Sridevi was still in her "learning to act" stages. Ofcourse she had huge successes earlier with 3M & 16V but was still evolving. Since she started as a child artist in 60's, the confusion of whether to imitate the prior gen actresses or do something of her own affected naturalness during 70's, IMO.
#29 இளமை எனும் பூங்காற்று
பாடியது ஓர் பாட்டு
(பகலில் ஒரு இரவு, 1979 )
'ஒரே வீணை, ஒரே ராகம்' - when someone listens to lines like this, it's just natural to imagine that this song is about music / musician. Add to that the pallavi that goes like 'பாடியது ஓர் பாட்டு'. So, this song got no objection anywhere - at homes, school functions or other auspicious occasions. Being blessed with my movie-watch-sabbatical, I was also blissfully unaware of what goes on screen. Still, I can now recall that this song created some 'இனம் புரியாத உணர்வுகள்' every time I heard during the teens :wink:
Easily Kavingar scores over SPB & IR in this towering song that was such a massive hit in TN / Srilanka and was a regular on radio for years! Unlike present, the primary source of music was radio and one wasn't in total control as to what to listen in a given time period. Also, no FM. AIR was horrible w.r.t TFM and IOKS was the primary source (I can't help keep repeating this thing here).
Despite all these, I would have listened to this song hundreds of times during my school years! It was sought after madly and paid attention to - wherever and whenever it came from!
I remember posting about this song earlier in "song last heard" thread and it's a regular listen even now, decades and 1000's of songs after its arrival. Such is its power! Any list I make for IR or SPB should have this number!
The flute, the strings, the choral harmony, the melody - all lift us up to a place of EkAntham - so serene as well as mirthful!
One of the best Songs of IR + SPB , but the picturisation has spoiled it all, that to Sri devi's exposure! :banghead:
wow. Amazing, simply amazing SPB ji http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kOLgcCu3VQ&feature=player_detailpage
I have three more movies and eight more SPB/IR songs from 1979. Interestingly, similar to 1978, there had not been a single dud song in this combo for the whole year! Some were more popular and others were 'radio-only-hits' but every one of them got noticed!
Also, by this time, the Raja brand was firmly established. IMSO, every song from IR-SPB combo created widespread enthu and expectation from the TFM listening community :-)