IR New Albums - Old responses (5 Aug 2006)

Hi Vem, We will miss you in this forum !. Hope you find what you are looking for in non-IR's music. Good Luck.

On a related note, I have been reading this and " IR composing technique " thread for the last several months.. and my observation is. ( again no offense meant.. )

The interesting thing is that many fans (like Vijayr for ex ) who repeatedyly are dissappointed with IR's songs - say there are more duds/mediocre songs of IR than his good ones etc are predominantly seen on IR threads.

They say IR's music for the most part does not interest them any more , % of dundams/duds/mediocre/rehash way outweigh the % of good ones etc etc.. but it is interesting to see them not being able to move on and still active in IR forums !! .

it's also interesting to see why there are not more threads on either the yesteryear MDs like MSV's great melodies" , " Lowest % of duds by MSV in TFM history" , or on contemporary MDs like " HJ's composing technique".. " Vidyasagar's counterpoints" , " Shruthibetham in ARR songs" and the likes..

It would appear to me that these people should have lost any interest in IR and his music forums given his very low % of good songs in the last several years.. Hmm .. that seems to me like- IR attracts more interest in these forums inspite of his huge % of duds !!!

Cheers
MSK

MSK, as bad as IRs recent albums have been I still check every one of them out (just like I do YSR's even though I am not a fan of his stuff). But that doesnt mean I dont listen to other MDs or new non-IR stuff. If you have been to other threads you will know that I post there too.

"it's also interesting to see why there are not more threads on either the yesteryear MDs like MSV's great melodies" , " Lowest % of duds by MSV in TFM history" ,

There are. Check out a whole section called "yesteryears". With many of the older DFers either moving on or having shifted to dhool participation in those threads have probably gone down a bit.BTW, I dont see anything new in IR's threads either, same old flour being ground again. Most of the noteworthy songs and topics have been discussed in 98 itself and are just being recycled, thats all.

In fact its the "current topics" and "ARR's albums" sections thats getting a lot of attention/activity indicating many IR fans(like vem) have indeed moved on or have left TFMDF for good. And a new generation of participants/DFers have taken over.

"The re-recording at times has a `Kadhalukku Mariyadhai' touch, while the melodies are thoroughly enjoyable and typically Raja. The positive lyric of the `Oru Porkaalam ... ' song makes you sit up"

http://www.hindu.com/fr/2005/10/28/s...2802900200.htm

If we watch postings of vijayr, one can easily figure out his main aim is to provide damaging feedback of IR albums as quick as possible with an ultimate goal of writing off IR. So IR fans can ignore his comments.

cms, thanks for the good humour. Please find all the positive feedback for COA album in this thread (apart from my post), good luck :-)

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Originally Posted by cms

If we watch postings of vijayr, one can easily figure out his main aim is to provide damaging feedback of IR albums as quick as possible with an ultimate goal of writing off IR. So IR fans can ignore his comments.

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No one can writeoff IR. Vem leaving is like "Ikkaraikku akkaraipachchai" - so he will come back. Like IR said, you want a pop-corn, so eat it. I am sure it cant be your meal every single day.

I moved from IR (just like Vem) to ARR but after 95, I said "why am I fooling myself" and then stick to IR. I listen to all albums, ARR, IR, VS, HJ etc, but it is IR songs which opens up my day, like Subrapatham, and it is IR songs which ends my day. From recent songs, I am addicted to Nalla Vaazvu, Kajuraho, Kaatuvizhi, Oru Porkalam. I was listening to Viumandi yesterday after long time and IR took me to places where I have never been before.

Whats important (to me) when I listen to the songs is the flow. How naturally it flows thru my ear, heart, mind. I think IR songs tend to flow much better than anyone else in my ear and so does in millions of ppl around the world.

IR - where music start and end.

<MSK, as bad as IRs recent albums have been I still check every one of them out (just like I do YSR's even though I am not a fan of his stuff). >

Why Vijayr.. if the numbers are so astounding and I heard comments from you that it is only getting worse every year..

I am not trying to criticize you here , but just curious what still makes you even sample a CD from IR ( and for christ sake how do you expect a non-dud one from YSR if IR's numbers do not meet your expectation ) where the probability that a song will meet your expectation is pretty bleak and is not getting better by the day. ( Ofcourse TiS is an exception i guess.. not sure if the CD met the decent % threshold of yours )

Second, even if you are sampling just to check out what others think about an IR album, the chances of the song falling under your "Dud" category but praised by the majority of the hubbers here are high ( from what i have seen so far the last couple of years ). So is this a right forum for you to get the information you are looking for.?

Third, this one I am not kidding . On any subject/issue/person, positive comments can be redundant, repetetive and generous. But Negative and repeated comments about shd be at a minimum. Infact the worst criticism an album can get is no mention of it anywhere.. On the other hand, repeated negative criticism ( your broken record comment " IR's hit rate sucked in the 80's and got even worse in the 90s, MSV and other MD's maintained a flawless hit rate etc..) would not be taken very well.. Infact i read through all the 24 pages of " IR's composing technique" thread and very similar to your observation of IR hit rate, your repeated chanting of the same thing( which for argumentative sake i can call "dud" posts ) outweighed your excellent good reviews of the many positive aspects of the music ( though you were mostly responding/defending to others comments )

Anyway, i am sorry for taking the liberty of chiding you on this issue.. Just giving a different perspective.. you do not have to defend this one too. and I will not discuss this again.. Happy ending :-)

Like many others in this forum, I am enjoying Kasturiman and ONOK albums. Yeah there are some numbers in each that I do not like that much. But that is that. I stop my analysis at that. I write a lot about the stuff i like though.

Sorry guys for my digression.

Cheers
MSK

CMS,

Vijayr is just frustrated with COA for some reason. His comment on the "fastest composed IR albums' was IR composed for COA in 45 seconds.. That clearly shows he does not like the songs and is upset :-) That's fine.

I would say if you have not listened to COA, I would definitely recommend 2 songs in that album - 1. Ponna pirantha and 2. Nalla vazhvu. These are not the best ones that IR has produced in recent times, but definitely decent songs.

Infact I liked Nalla vazhvu and after the seeing the visuals on SUN TV, i guess the song fitted the situtaion ( so did the lyrics ) very well.

thanks
MSK

cry_sandiego,
Can't be said better than you did.

I agree with the comment on COA. When you see it with the movie, the songs fit the situations so well.

I had been a regular in this thread but have left in disgust because there are a few who jump to conclusion so quickly in denigrating any new IR album that comes out, but insted of just stating that it is their opinion they try to browbeat others who may find the album good until they agree to their negative opinion.

Also hypocritical will be the standards they will have for IR compared to the others - for eg will criticize negatively on IR albums on the first hearing but argue that yo have to listen to other's albums a few times to appreciate them.

It becomes worthless to continue a discussion with such posters. Hence I am away. I check the IR albums page for info on new albums from IR and buy them and enjoy.