thiruvasakam in symphony

rajasaranam, i am not the one swinging from blind hero worship to the other extreme.

I don't have any blind faith in IR. I don't care what he is. I am purely working on available facts. All i am saying is that adequate facts have not been presented to justify your extreme views on this matter.

I have been only presented one side of the story so far. In any story there are three truths. the subjective view of truths as presented by either party and the truth.

unlike you, i have suspended my judgement till i hear all the facts. If by not agreeing with your views, it means that I have blind faith in IR, so be it. I'll be patient and wait to find out what actually happened.

Gapla oru post vutaacha :)

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Originally Posted by kavin

...... TIS is IR's project and TM only came forward to help produce it and promised to generate funds. they don't own the music like the producers of film music do. Somewhere they failed to do their homework and seem to be disappointed with the outcome.

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:lol: .....Tha Ivanga ellam loosu paaru athan kadan vaangi, sothellam viththu IR'oda Projecta panni kuduthutu moodikinu Poidunumaam.... Serthan parvalla nangalae enga somaiya thaainkiron onniya onnum kora sollala raasannu sonna kooda., nee pirstaae corritaa paesikinnu thutta kuduko veyndiyathuthaanaenu ventha punnla vela paichinikiriye unaku inna mansachee keetha...illiya?

rajasaranam,

appa maganidam, nee enna seyviyo theryiadhu, eppadiyavadhu examla pass panniyethan theeranumnu sonna. magan, examla bit adichu maatikitu, appa examla debar pannitangappannu sonna. appa maganidam 'naan enna unna bit adikava sonnen'

adhu madhiri, naan enna unna loan vangava sonnen.

Kavin,

Jokes apart....Lets get down to the letter of Fr.Jegath. He has clearly stated that The agreement was prepared by IR's Auditor and TM had to sign it under coercion. As Their foremost purpose was to release the album because they never wanted all their efforts over 3 years to go as waste. Given the attitude of IR we all have sufficient reason to beleive that If at all TM had stood against the terms in the agreement, IR would have walked of clearly saying 'Appa album release panna vaendam'. Ithu madhiri ethanayo Gems innum kuppaiyil kidakuthu 'Moods of Raja' , 'Symphony no.1' madhiri. Intha Album kaetu innaikku neenga sandhosha padreengana athukku muzhu kaaranamum TM thandratha purinjikonga.

Your backing up of IR is perfectly understandable as there are no definitive statements from TM about IR's Cheating. But their can't be a question about TM/TISK 's integrity and genuinity in the whole episode. Still if you want to beleive It was TM's mistake and IR is clean its your choice. Poonai kannai moodi kolvathaal ulagam Irunduraathu.

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Originally Posted by rajasaranam

And If you are from the other camp you are invited to enjoy the feast of our side's miserable state :twisted:

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Intha other camp matter ellam anavasiyam , i dont have to post as some "rajaadimai" etc etc to show you that i am from this camp .

Kavin,

Gapula poonthu velaydreenga :)

Sari unga kathaikae varuvom... Assume TM never raised loans or donations and They invested 1.4 crores over this project all from their own funds. And wellgate had given them back 5 lakhs from sales. Thiruvaasagam ALbum madhiri oru periya flop albuma IR'ai nambi, avar kanavai nanavakka produce pannathukku avanga nashtatha pathi kavalapadalannu sollitaanga. Konjam IR than avar serthu vachu irukira sothula irunthu oru 50 latchatha kuduthu nashtathula pangeduthukrathu. Antha madhiri neraya panam IR kitta illaenu sollatheenga. Samibathil JayaTV kaaga panna programmekku avar vaangina sambalam 1 koadi roobai. Mookambigai kovilukku avar kudutha nagai 27 latcham roobai. Adutha vaenduthalaana ammanukku vaira nagai onnu kudukka poraar - rate 70 latcham roobai. Paavam TM konjamae konjam kuduthu udavalamae...

rajasaranam, that is a better tone and am happy to dissect every statements so far and lets find out what we can conclude.

I did hear that TM feared that IR may withold the release of TIS like Symphony 1 and hence yielded to his wishes. This I heard from sources close to Fr Gaspar. This was an information that has been circulated in private circles since the release of TIS which has only come to public domain now.

You chose to believe every word of Fr Gaspar, buy I am willing to doubt his words and want clear evidence. The fact that IR's auditor presented a contract and Fr Gaspar had no negotiating power considering what was at stake needs to be authenticated.

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Originally Posted by sats

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Originally Posted by rajasaranam

And If you are from the other camp you are invited to enjoy the feast of our side's miserable state :twisted:

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Intha other camp matter ellam anavasiyam , i dont have to post as some "rajaadimai" etc etc to show you that i am from this camp .

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Sorry if that has offended you but that was meant to be a Joke. Smiley irukae.

Well let me redirect that post to MADDY, Scale etc., :)

Kavin,

Aala vidunga naan intha vilatukkae varala. TN'la mani kaalai 2.15. lighta kattaiya saikiraen. Gapla vanthudatheenga.

If TM had funded from their own funds, without recourse to public funds over a period of time, I guess TM would have had better advantage in the negotiation.

It would have been clearly a case of TM commissioning IR to compose the music and they would have held total rights as producers.

Because the funds were generated through donations prospectively, TM did not have sole production rights. TIS went into public domain, where IR held the copyright as a creator and TM became a financier and not a producer. They did try to claim to be producers in stray media reports prior to the release.